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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 16:38:44 GMT -6
Cap Friendly has updated their site for the 2020/2021 season. Showing the Hawks have 17 players currently signed on the NHL roster with 2 others on LTIR (Seabrook and Shaw). Without those 2 players counting towards the cap due to their status, the Hawks current cap availability is $8,042,961.00. Shaw and Seabrook combined take up another $10,775,000.00. That means if they were moved to the active roster, the Hawks are over the cap with 19 players signed. I can't see anyway this team doesn't get gutted with whoever they can get rid of and making the team worse then the past several seasons. I've attached the link to Cap Friendly and put this up for debate here.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 10, 2020 17:34:35 GMT -6
Seems like one sticky wicket on our hands with both Seabs and Shaw looking to play and collect their combined 10.7M cap hit. Seabs would take waiving and a train car full of sweetener but Shaw's a bit of a different story. He's only 29,just one year left,no clauses and he had a good season last time he was healthy but staying healthy is another story all together. Shaw could help this team if he stayed healthy but might not require much sweetener,I couldn't be a bigger fan but can the Org take this 3.9M gamble next year and should they have last year? Maata's 4M should be a piece of cake to move and should actually bring some return after a solid PO's and a championship history but we are talking about Scam Blowman here aren't we? I don't see how Saad CAN'T be traded after reading your post and really with next to no salary coming back which weakens an already weak lineup,another chance for the 'spawn of Scotty' to screw up once again. de Haan was a salary dump last year and he's a year older and one more shoulder surgery isn't a selling point,is there any chance Scambo can do to another GM what was done to him last year with this guy? Buy the total bust known as Zach Smith out and save some space......thanks Scambo! At what point do wee see all the young welterweights on D and how is room made for more than one this year? We still got the next Keith and Karlsson.....just wonderin'. Is D-Cat moved? For what and what then? Crawford? Kubalik? Strome? Caggiula? I feel like the 'Ridler'  ? LOL! Are Koek's RFA rights enough to sweeten ANYTHING? Do we have the right staff in place to tech Boqvist the game or should Soupy be added to it? Does Nolander EVER come out of the ether? Does Mark Crawford stay if the morbid rumors of a JC extension are true? The Caps fired what they think was the wrong guy and it sounds like we just get more wrong guy.....a lot more. If last year's bounty of the space,picks and prospects that were spent and traded resulted in last place,what in world is in store for us this offseason? |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Sept 10, 2020 17:50:09 GMT -6
Cap Friendly has updated their site for the 2020/2021 season. Showing the Hawks have 17 players currently signed on the NHL roster with 2 others on LTIR (Seabrook and Shaw). Without those 2 players counting towards the cap due to their status, the Hawks current cap availability is $8,042,961.00. Shaw and Seabrook combined take up another $10,775,000.00. That means if they were moved to the active roster, the Hawks are over the cap with 19 players signed. I can't see anyway this team doesn't get gutted with whoever they can get rid of and making the team worse then the past several seasons. I've attached the link to Cap Friendly and put this up for debate here.
I think that the $73.457 Mil number includes Seabrook and Shaw. Does not include Crawford or whoever his replacement may be. I think trading/dumping DeHaan, Maata, and Smith would alleviate the situation. Then it comes down to resigning Kubalik and Strome. |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 10, 2020 17:56:47 GMT -6
Those 17 players under contract do NOT include Seabs and Shaw..... www.capfriendly.com/teams/blackhawksScambo's gonna resemble a man with the runs and no change for the pay toilet this offseason.......the pooch was screwed well enough last year and we might see litters from that pooch for years to come. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 10, 2020 18:05:22 GMT -6
Cap Friendly has updated their site for the 2020/2021 season. Showing the Hawks have 17 players currently signed on the NHL roster with 2 others on LTIR (Seabrook and Shaw). Without those 2 players counting towards the cap due to their status, the Hawks current cap availability is $8,042,961.00. Shaw and Seabrook combined take up another $10,775,000.00. That means if they were moved to the active roster, the Hawks are over the cap with 19 players signed. I can't see anyway this team doesn't get gutted with whoever they can get rid of and making the team worse then the past several seasons. I've attached the link to Cap Friendly and put this up for debate here.
I think that the $73.457 Mil number includes Seabrook and Shaw. Does not include Crawford or whoever his replacement may be. I think trading/dumping DeHaan, Maata, and Smith would alleviate the situation. Then it comes down to resigning Kubalik and Strome. I think you’re correct. Simply due to LTIR does count against the cap in the offseason. So it only makes sense that Seabs and Shaw’s contracts count right now. On the other side of the rusty coin, every team is in a cap predicament. Dumping salary will be exceedingly difficult for a good respected GM. I think we will see an awful awful trade and Stan will indeed end up getting fired. He will have to sweeten a couple of pots to get things done, and the Hawks are going to hurt for years to come!!! |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Sept 10, 2020 18:09:40 GMT -6
Offense: $41,163,333
Defense: $19,640,962
Goalies: $1,000,000
Injured: $10,775,000
...that's what I see listed, unless I am missing something.
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Post by BigT on Sept 10, 2020 18:14:13 GMT -6
Those 17 players under contract do NOT include Seabs and Shaw..... www.capfriendly.com/teams/blackhawksScambo's gonna resemble a man with the runs and no change for the pay toilet this offseason.......the pooch was screwed well enough last year and we might see litters from that pooch for years to come. I’m not sure that’s correct. Their contracts should count due to it being the offseason. As we’ve seen before with Hossa, those contracts count towards the cap in the offseason and cannot be buried till day one of the teams season. However, if that is correct. The prognosis is nothing more than awful. This shit stain “went for it”’last year. He ruined the cap for the foreseeable future. Brian Burke said a week or so ago that the cap should stay flat for 4 years, 3 if we’re lucky. Stan will have to unload a lot of guys, and all these kids will be part of sweetening deals. Not a good sign if true!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 18:29:56 GMT -6
Offense: $41,163,333 Defense: $19,640,962 Goalies: $1,000,000 Injured: $10,775,000
...that's what I see listed, unless I am missing something. I stand corrected. The reason I thought it did not include their salaries is because when you count the offense, defense, and goalies it equals 17 players, which is what they list as the roster size. But after you mentioned it I also went back to the sight and come up with the same conclusion as you did.
Cap Friendly needs to go to penalty box and feel much shame!
Sorry guys, I should have looked closer at this, but I did count 17 minus Seabrook and Shaw and that's why I thought their salaries were not included.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 18:31:10 GMT -6
Seems like one sticky wicket on our hands with both Seabs and Shaw looking to play and collect their combined 10.7M cap hit. Seabs would take waiving and a train car full of sweetener but Shaw's a bit of a different story. He's only 29, just one year left,no clauses and he had a good season last time he was healthy but staying healthy is another story all together. Shaw could help this team if he stayed healthy but might not require much sweetener,I couldn't be a bigger fan but can the Org take this 3.9M gamble next year and should they have last year? Maata's 4M should be a piece of cake to move and should actually bring some return after a solid PO's and a championship history but we are talking about Scam Blowman here aren't we? I don't see how Saad CAN'T be traded after reading your post and really with next to no salary coming back which weakens an already weak lineup,another chance for the 'spawn of Scotty' to screw up once again. de Haan was a salary dump last year and he's a year older and one more shoulder surgery isn't a selling point,is there any chance Scambo can do to another GM what was done to him last year with this guy? Buy the total bust known as Zach Smith out and save some space......thanks Scambo! At what point do wee see all the young welterweights on D and how is room made for more than one this year? We still got the next Keith and Karlsson.....just wonderin'. Is D-Cat moved? For what and what then? Crawford? Kubalik? Strome? Caggiula? I feel like the 'Ridler' ? LOL! Are Koek's RFA rights enough to sweeten ANYTHING? Do we have the right staff in place to tech Boqvist the game or should Soupy be added to it? Does Nolander EVER come out of the ether? Does Mark Crawford stay if the morbid rumors of a JC extension are true? The Caps fired what they think was the wrong guy and it sounds like we just get more wrong guy.....a lot more. If last year's bounty of the space,picks and prospects that were spent and traded resulted in last place,what in world is in store for us this offseason? Shaw has 2 years remaining |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 10, 2020 18:48:51 GMT -6
Offense: $41,163,333 Defense: $19,640,962 Goalies: $1,000,000 Injured: $10,775,000
...that's what I see listed, unless I am missing something. I stand corrected. The reason I thought it did not include their salaries is because when you count the offense, defense, and goalies it equals 17 players, which is what they list as the roster size. But after you mentioned it I also went back to the sight and come up with the same conclusion as you did.
Cap Friendly needs to go to penalty box and feel much shame!
Sorry guys, I should have looked closer at this, but I did count 17 minus Seabrook and Shaw and that's why I thought their salaries were not included.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 10, 2020 18:51:06 GMT -6
Seems like one sticky wicket on our hands with both Seabs and Shaw looking to play and collect their combined 10.7M cap hit. Seabs would take waiving and a train car full of sweetener but Shaw's a bit of a different story. He's only 29, just one year left,no clauses and he had a good season last time he was healthy but staying healthy is another story all together. Shaw could help this team if he stayed healthy but might not require much sweetener,I couldn't be a bigger fan but can the Org take this 3.9M gamble next year and should they have last year? Maata's 4M should be a piece of cake to move and should actually bring some return after a solid PO's and a championship history but we are talking about Scam Blowman here aren't we? I don't see how Saad CAN'T be traded after reading your post and really with next to no salary coming back which weakens an already weak lineup,another chance for the 'spawn of Scotty' to screw up once again. de Haan was a salary dump last year and he's a year older and one more shoulder surgery isn't a selling point,is there any chance Scambo can do to another GM what was done to him last year with this guy? Buy the total bust known as Zach Smith out and save some space......thanks Scambo! At what point do wee see all the young welterweights on D and how is room made for more than one this year? We still got the next Keith and Karlsson.....just wonderin'. Is D-Cat moved? For what and what then? Crawford? Kubalik? Strome? Caggiula? I feel like the 'Ridler' ? LOL! Are Koek's RFA rights enough to sweeten ANYTHING? Do we have the right staff in place to tech Boqvist the game or should Soupy be added to it? Does Nolander EVER come out of the ether? Does Mark Crawford stay if the morbid rumors of a JC extension are true? The Caps fired what they think was the wrong guy and it sounds like we just get more wrong guy.....a lot more. If last year's bounty of the space,picks and prospects that were spent and traded resulted in last place,what in world is in store for us this offseason? Shaw has 2 years remaining What a wonderful trade! Would any other GM in the league take that contract without some money retained.....let alone give up a 2nd and a 3rd? |
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Post by BigT on Sept 10, 2020 19:09:37 GMT -6
Shaw has 2 years remaining What a wonderful trade! Would any other GM in the league take that contract without some money retained.....let alone give up a 2nd and a 3rd? Bob, I’ve been saying this for years. He keeps doing the same type thing over and over. He only had success due to the amount of talent he inherited. Once he ran out of that, it’s been downhill skiing since. And before that, it’s even proven that Q strung him along for the longest time and gave a list of who and what he wanted. That wasn’t good enough for Stan, no, he just had to prove he was the smartest guy. Now he’s a loser like he always was!!! |
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Post by shooter61 on Sept 11, 2020 8:06:29 GMT -6
What a wonderful trade! Would any other GM in the league take that contract without some money retained.....let alone give up a 2nd and a 3rd? Bob, I’ve been saying this for years. He keeps doing the same type thing over and over. He only had success due to the amount of talent he inherited. Once he ran out of that, it’s been downhill skiing since. And before that, it’s even proven that Q strung him along for the longest time and gave a list of who and what he wanted. That wasn’t good enough for Stan, no, he just had to prove he was the smartest guy. Now he’s a loser like he always was!!! don't disagree withy you on Stans blunders, he did ruin this team with his dead line deals and trades, what i don't see is ( it’s even proven that Q strung him along for the longest time and gave a list of who and what he wanted. That wasn’t good enough for Stan) is that just hearsay or do you know that for a fact ? |
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Post by BigT on Sept 11, 2020 16:23:49 GMT -6
Bob, I’ve been saying this for years. He keeps doing the same type thing over and over. He only had success due to the amount of talent he inherited. Once he ran out of that, it’s been downhill skiing since. And before that, it’s even proven that Q strung him along for the longest time and gave a list of who and what he wanted. That wasn’t good enough for Stan, no, he just had to prove he was the smartest guy. Now he’s a loser like he always was!!! don't disagree withy you on Stans blunders, he did ruin this team with his dead line deals and trades, what i don't see is ( it’s even proven that Q strung him along for the longest time and gave a list of who and what he wanted. That wasn’t good enough for Stan) is that just hearsay or do you know that for a fact ? It is a fact. It was reported on TSN and Sportsnet at the time of Qs last extension. It was in his contract that he had the say in the roster. He was to be consulted on any move the team was to make regarding the on ice product he had to coach. Drafting was a different beast. Stan and his scouting staff have every once of ok to do what they wanted, and they clearly went for the smaller variety from the USNTDP. We have nothing to show from that, yet almost every other team does. Because they took the best kid available and if he was from the USNTDP, so be it. Also, take it for what it’s worth to you. I do happen to know a few people that work within the NHL, I won’t say who or get into providing names. But I have a few friends that I can usually get whatever info I need. I asked years back about Q, simply because Q would never divulge that info. The last time I talked to Q at the olde Abars in Windsor, he clearly said “it’s my team”. We had a beer and he was back to his family. Qs old buddy (Blaine RIP), was a good friend of mine and introduced me to him a solid 7-8 years back. I used to literally live right around the corner from Qs mother. I asked Q if he had to sit Toews, or Kane would he be allowed to? That’s when he said “it’s my team, I wouldn’t coach if it wasn’t”. Not in a conceded way, but he was just saying he had a way of doing things and the org recognized that. So with all the evidence that was out there, and what I was roughly told by Q, I’d have to believe it’s true. Q was basically the GM because minimal had to be done. Stan did the phone calls and such and asked the scouting staff, and he got Q his guys. There’s some I disagree with, but whatever, there’s 3 Cups because of it. Now, Stan wants his own team doing things his own way, we are witnessing the lunacy at first hand. Plus look at when Stan had to dump salary, he literally dumped them for nothing and Q bailed him out time and time again. When Stan traded Panera and Hammer, that was the beginning of the end, also when Q said “Shaw is irreplaceable”. Shaw was dealt a few days later. And I think Q did pretty good with Stan’s stuff, then it got worse and worse and look at her now!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 11, 2020 21:48:30 GMT -6
don't disagree withy you on Stans blunders, he did ruin this team with his dead line deals and trades, what i don't see is ( it’s even proven that Q strung him along for the longest time and gave a list of who and what he wanted. That wasn’t good enough for Stan) is that just hearsay or do you know that for a fact ? It is a fact. It was reported on TSN and Sportsnet at the time of Qs last extension. It was in his contract that he had the say in the roster. He was to be consulted on any move the team was to make regarding the on ice product he had to coach. Drafting was a different beast. Stan and his scouting staff have every once of ok to do what they wanted, and they clearly went for the smaller variety from the USNTDP. We have nothing to show from that, yet almost every other team does. Because they took the best kid available and if he was from the USNTDP, so be it. Also, take it for what it’s worth to you. I do happen to know a few people that work within the NHL, I won’t say who or get into providing names. But I have a few friends that I can usually get whatever info I need. I asked years back about Q, simply because Q would never divulge that info. The last time I talked to Q at the olde Abars in Windsor, he clearly said “it’s my team”. We had a beer and he was back to his family. Qs old buddy (Blaine RIP), was a good friend of mine and introduced me to him a solid 7-8 years back. I used to literally live right around the corner from Qs mother. I asked Q if he had to sit Toews, or Kane would he be allowed to? That’s when he said “it’s my team, I wouldn’t coach if it wasn’t”. Not in a conceded way, but he was just saying he had a way of doing things and the org recognized that. So with all the evidence that was out there, and what I was roughly told by Q, I’d have to believe it’s true. Q was basically the GM because minimal had to be done. Stan did the phone calls and such and asked the scouting staff, and he got Q his guys. There’s some I disagree with, but whatever, there’s 3 Cups because of it. Now, Stan wants his own team doing things his own way, we are witnessing the lunacy at first hand. Plus look at when Stan had to dump salary, he literally dumped them for nothing and Q bailed him out time and time again. When Stan traded Panera and Hammer, that was the beginning of the end, also when Q said “Shaw is irreplaceable”. Shaw was dealt a few days later. And I think Q did pretty good with Stan’s stuff, then it got worse and worse and look at her now!!! It was reported that Q and JT both went to Scambo with the same request about Shaw but off he went,his money already having been wasted on Kruger. Got another trade for ya,we sent Kahun to the Pens for Maata and the Pens turn around and trade Kahun for Even Rodrigues and Connor Sheary. The Wild also took a shot at Nick Bjugstad today and why wouldn't they when the Pens ate half the money and only required a 7th in return.......THIS is how the Shaw trade SHOULDA went down too! |
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Post by BigT on Sept 12, 2020 8:39:18 GMT -6
It is a fact. It was reported on TSN and Sportsnet at the time of Qs last extension. It was in his contract that he had the say in the roster. He was to be consulted on any move the team was to make regarding the on ice product he had to coach. Drafting was a different beast. Stan and his scouting staff have every once of ok to do what they wanted, and they clearly went for the smaller variety from the USNTDP. We have nothing to show from that, yet almost every other team does. Because they took the best kid available and if he was from the USNTDP, so be it. Also, take it for what it’s worth to you. I do happen to know a few people that work within the NHL, I won’t say who or get into providing names. But I have a few friends that I can usually get whatever info I need. I asked years back about Q, simply because Q would never divulge that info. The last time I talked to Q at the olde Abars in Windsor, he clearly said “it’s my team”. We had a beer and he was back to his family. Qs old buddy (Blaine RIP), was a good friend of mine and introduced me to him a solid 7-8 years back. I used to literally live right around the corner from Qs mother. I asked Q if he had to sit Toews, or Kane would he be allowed to? That’s when he said “it’s my team, I wouldn’t coach if it wasn’t”. Not in a conceded way, but he was just saying he had a way of doing things and the org recognized that. So with all the evidence that was out there, and what I was roughly told by Q, I’d have to believe it’s true. Q was basically the GM because minimal had to be done. Stan did the phone calls and such and asked the scouting staff, and he got Q his guys. There’s some I disagree with, but whatever, there’s 3 Cups because of it. Now, Stan wants his own team doing things his own way, we are witnessing the lunacy at first hand. Plus look at when Stan had to dump salary, he literally dumped them for nothing and Q bailed him out time and time again. When Stan traded Panera and Hammer, that was the beginning of the end, also when Q said “Shaw is irreplaceable”. Shaw was dealt a few days later. And I think Q did pretty good with Stan’s stuff, then it got worse and worse and look at her now!!! It was reported that Q and JT both went to Scambo with the same request about Shaw but off he went,his money already having been wasted on Kruger. Got another trade for ya,we sent Kahun to the Pens for Maata and the Pens turn around and trade Kahun for Even Rodrigues and Connor Sheary. The Wild also took a shot at Nick Bjugstad today and why wouldn't they when the Pens ate half the money and only required a 7th in return.......THIS is how the Shaw trade SHOULDA went down too! I know Bob. All I ever hear is more excuses. He was against the cap, give this kid a certain amount of time, you’re too quick to criticize etc. He’s had a gawd damn decade. And if it wasn’t for Q, he’d be the worst GM of all time. But because of Q he has 3 Cups and a crooked legacy that he’s sealing nicely now. Honestly, he never wins a trade. His drafts are mediocre, and his free agency is nothing more than the bottom of the barrel. Ive given my out look on free agency. I said why not Brassard at 1.2? You’ve brought up Shattenkirk at just over a million. So instead we have Smith and DeHaan, and Maatta and Shaw etc. How come we know this, yet Stan doesn’t? I mean, it’s not like these guys were the first to be plucked off the Free Agent list. They sat there and sat there and Stan could a bad them but by the sound of things, he didn’t even try!!! |
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Post by shooter61 on Sept 12, 2020 9:34:04 GMT -6
Again you say his drafts are mediocre, the few scouts that I know personally all say that the only thing Stan does right is listen to his scouts, Kelly is well respected around the league, and it shows by the amount of high end talent he brings in , just because Stan trades them all awat is not a knock against the teams drafting
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Post by BigT on Sept 12, 2020 10:33:15 GMT -6
Again you say his drafts are mediocre, the few scouts that I know personally all say that the only thing Stan does right is listen to his scouts, Kelly is well respected around the league, and it shows by the amount of high end talent he brings in , just because Stan trades them all awat is not a knock against the teams drafting I don’t think it’s great drafting. Probably not the worst either. But besides Teravainen, I haven’t seen one other well rounded player. And I’m not really looking for that #1 center. It would be nice, but in all fairness, just a good defensemen. Stan has brought along zero dmen through his drafting. Zero goalies and a litany or smaller forwards that don’t really pan out or are just not needed. So his drafts have been meh 😑. All he really needed to do was draft kids that would fill the gaps of the cap casualties. And again, we didn’t need a number one center, or a top 5 scorer in the NHL, or a Norris dman. We had them. His job was to maintain. When we lose a Ladd, or Buff, or Bickell, Versteeg, Sopel, Madden, Bolland etc. All he had to do was draft and develop kids into certain roles. The farm was a mess, and nothing came out of it. It’s not as good as you may want to believe. And it’s all on Stan!!! |
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Post by acesandeights on Sept 12, 2020 10:35:06 GMT -6
Again you say his drafts are mediocre, the few scouts that I know personally all say that the only thing Stan does right is listen to his scouts, Kelly is well respected around the league, and it shows by the amount of high end talent he brings in , just because Stan trades them all awat is not a knock against the teams drafting Since Stan's background doesn't include scouting, grading and evaluating young players, it makes sense he looks to Mark Kelley and the scouts and their evaluations. Scouting is where it all starts. |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 12, 2020 18:15:36 GMT -6
It was reported that Q and JT both went to Scambo with the same request about Shaw but off he went,his money already having been wasted on Kruger. Got another trade for ya,we sent Kahun to the Pens for Maata and the Pens turn around and trade Kahun for Even Rodrigues and Connor Sheary. The Wild also took a shot at Nick Bjugstad today and why wouldn't they when the Pens ate half the money and only required a 7th in return.......THIS is how the Shaw trade SHOULDA went down too! I know Bob. All I ever hear is more excuses. He was against the cap, give this kid a certain amount of time, you’re too quick to criticize etc. He’s had a gawd damn decade. And if it wasn’t for Q, he’d be the worst GM of all time. But because of Q he has 3 Cups and a crooked legacy that he’s sealing nicely now. Honestly, he never wins a trade. His drafts are mediocre, and his free agency is nothing more than the bottom of the barrel. Ive given my out look on free agency. I said why not Brassard at 1.2? You’ve brought up Shattenkirk at just over a million. So instead we have Smith and DeHaan, and Maatta and Shaw etc. How come we know this, yet Stan doesn’t? I mean, it’s not like these guys were the first to be plucked off the Free Agent list. They sat there and sat there and Stan could a bad them but by the sound of things, he didn’t even try!!! I think Ol' Scambo has won a few but it's been a while with the exception of Kubalik. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 12, 2020 18:32:50 GMT -6
I know Bob. All I ever hear is more excuses. He was against the cap, give this kid a certain amount of time, you’re too quick to criticize etc. He’s had a gawd damn decade. And if it wasn’t for Q, he’d be the worst GM of all time. But because of Q he has 3 Cups and a crooked legacy that he’s sealing nicely now. Honestly, he never wins a trade. His drafts are mediocre, and his free agency is nothing more than the bottom of the barrel. Ive given my out look on free agency. I said why not Brassard at 1.2? You’ve brought up Shattenkirk at just over a million. So instead we have Smith and DeHaan, and Maatta and Shaw etc. How come we know this, yet Stan doesn’t? I mean, it’s not like these guys were the first to be plucked off the Free Agent list. They sat there and sat there and Stan could a bad them but by the sound of things, he didn’t even try!!! I think Ol' Scambo has won a few but it's been a while with the exception of Kubalik. Let’s just wait till the next Kubalik trade to pass judgement on it!!! |
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Post by BigT on Sept 14, 2020 0:04:23 GMT -6
I was reading up on the new CBA. Here’s a link to the escrow and what will happen with the cap. It’s going to be flat for the next 2 years, more than likely a 3rd and very well could be 81.5 till this CBA ends in 2025. Here’s a link. I’d suggest everyone read this. It’s not too long!!! flamesnation.ca/2020/07/04/escrow/ |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 14, 2020 8:12:11 GMT -6
I was reading up on the new CBA. Here’s a link to the escrow and what will happen with the cap. It’s going to be flat for the next 2 years, more than likely a 3rd and very well could be 81.5 till this CBA ends in 2025. Here’s a link. I’d suggest everyone read this. It’s not too long!!! flamesnation.ca/2020/07/04/escrow/At first I thought this isn't the worst thing ever because it'll affect most teams as well as the Hawks but that's what I get for thinking. The flat cap affecting all the other teams affects their ability to take on a Saad or a Maata too and that could be a big problem. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 14, 2020 11:22:50 GMT -6
I was reading up on the new CBA. Here’s a link to the escrow and what will happen with the cap. It’s going to be flat for the next 2 years, more than likely a 3rd and very well could be 81.5 till this CBA ends in 2025. Here’s a link. I’d suggest everyone read this. It’s not too long!!! flamesnation.ca/2020/07/04/escrow/At first I thought this isn't the worst thing ever because it'll affect most teams as well as the Hawks but that's what I get for thinking. The flat cap affecting all the other teams affects their ability to take on a Saad or a Maata too and that could be a big problem. I know, it’s very very bad. If there is a team that can take on a bad contract, you can kiss the Hawks 1st rounders over the next couple of years good bye. I don’t see how Stan can fix this, it’s really bad. I hate to be this bearer of bad news, but this isn’t even Stan bashing anymore. This isn’t fixable without a massive downside. I don’t see the Hawks being cap compliant next year without ruining the franchise!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 14, 2020 18:02:11 GMT -6
At first I thought this isn't the worst thing ever because it'll affect most teams as well as the Hawks but that's what I get for thinking. The flat cap affecting all the other teams affects their ability to take on a Saad or a Maata too and that could be a big problem. I know, it’s very very bad. If there is a team that can take on a bad contract, you can kiss the Hawks 1st rounders over the next couple of years good bye. I don’t see how Stan can fix this, it’s really bad. I hate to be this bearer of bad news, but this isn’t even Stan bashing anymore. This isn’t fixable without a massive downside. I don’t see the Hawks being cap compliant next year without ruining the franchise!!! When it comes to shedding salary,it's gonna be catch as catch can. Shed what you can without sweetening like Maata and Saad(if possible) and kiss Strome good bye,I know Strome's loss is considered menial by many but just wait. Maybe move D-Cat too and then watch him pot 500 for somebody else. Something will HAVE to be done with Seabs and that something won't be pretty even if he waives. There will be buy-outs. DAM GOOD thing we added 15M+ last summer for Maata,de Haan,Shaw and Smith two of which weren't even able to help the team in the PO's. I STILL know what you did last summer Scambo! Would Joker have been better used as a sweetener or to acquire a loser who couldn't be trusted in an elimination game? |
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Post by nighbor on Sept 14, 2020 21:32:18 GMT -6
I know, it’s very very bad. If there is a team that can take on a bad contract, you can kiss the Hawks 1st rounders over the next couple of years good bye. I don’t see how Stan can fix this, it’s really bad. I hate to be this bearer of bad news, but this isn’t even Stan bashing anymore. This isn’t fixable without a massive downside. I don’t see the Hawks being cap compliant next year without ruining the franchise!!! When it comes to shedding salary,it's gonna be catch as catch can. Shed what you can without sweetening like Maata and Saad(if possible) and kiss Strome good bye,I know Strome's loss is considered menial by many but just wait. Maybe move D-Cat too and then watch him pot 500 for somebody else. Something will HAVE to be done with Seabs and that something won't be pretty even if he waives. There will be buy-outs. DAM GOOD thing we added 15M+ last summer for Maata,de Haan,Shaw and Smith two of which weren't even able to help the team in the PO's. I STILL know what you did last summer Scambo! Would Joker have been better used as a sweetener or to acquire a loser who couldn't be trusted in an elimination game? Strome and D-Cat will both be back as long as Strome is ready to play lets make a deal. I foresee that Seabrook will be a legitimate top four. If Smith comes back healthy after back surgery he will not disappoint. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 14, 2020 22:29:54 GMT -6
When it comes to shedding salary,it's gonna be catch as catch can. Shed what you can without sweetening like Maata and Saad(if possible) and kiss Strome good bye,I know Strome's loss is considered menial by many but just wait. Maybe move D-Cat too and then watch him pot 500 for somebody else. Something will HAVE to be done with Seabs and that something won't be pretty even if he waives. There will be buy-outs. DAM GOOD thing we added 15M+ last summer for Maata,de Haan,Shaw and Smith two of which weren't even able to help the team in the PO's. I STILL know what you did last summer Scambo! Would Joker have been better used as a sweetener or to acquire a loser who couldn't be trusted in an elimination game? Strome and D-Cat will both be back as long as Strome is ready to play lets make a deal. I foresee that Seabrook will be a legitimate top four. If Smith comes back healthy after back surgery he will not disappoint. you get a thumb just for the positivity. : ) |
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Post by BigT on Sept 15, 2020 6:48:32 GMT -6
When it comes to shedding salary,it's gonna be catch as catch can. Shed what you can without sweetening like Maata and Saad(if possible) and kiss Strome good bye,I know Strome's loss is considered menial by many but just wait. Maybe move D-Cat too and then watch him pot 500 for somebody else. Something will HAVE to be done with Seabs and that something won't be pretty even if he waives. There will be buy-outs. DAM GOOD thing we added 15M+ last summer for Maata,de Haan,Shaw and Smith two of which weren't even able to help the team in the PO's. I STILL know what you did last summer Scambo! Would Joker have been better used as a sweetener or to acquire a loser who couldn't be trusted in an elimination game? Strome and D-Cat will both be back as long as Strome is ready to play lets make a deal. I foresee that Seabrook will be a legitimate top four. If Smith comes back healthy after back surgery he will not disappoint. I’m not disagreeing. Can you please enlighten us where the cap space is coming from? We’ve all provided numbers here, and they don’t look good. It looks like the Hawks have about 10 million to shed just to get Kubalik, Crawford, Strome and a couple other positions filled. You can’t just say “they’ll be back and better than ever”, because math said so. If you want to be taken serious, please provide a path to this enlightenment!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 15, 2020 8:51:51 GMT -6
Strome and D-Cat will both be back as long as Strome is ready to play lets make a deal. I foresee that Seabrook will be a legitimate top four. If Smith comes back healthy after back surgery he will not disappoint. you get a thumb just for the positivity. : ) What do I get.....LOL! DON'T answer that! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 15, 2020 9:01:57 GMT -6
When it comes to shedding salary,it's gonna be catch as catch can. Shed what you can without sweetening like Maata and Saad(if possible) and kiss Strome good bye,I know Strome's loss is considered menial by many but just wait. Maybe move D-Cat too and then watch him pot 500 for somebody else. Something will HAVE to be done with Seabs and that something won't be pretty even if he waives. There will be buy-outs. DAM GOOD thing we added 15M+ last summer for Maata,de Haan,Shaw and Smith two of which weren't even able to help the team in the PO's. I STILL know what you did last summer Scambo! Would Joker have been better used as a sweetener or to acquire a loser who couldn't be trusted in an elimination game? Strome and D-Cat will both be back as long as Strome is ready to play lets make a deal. I foresee that Seabrook will be a legitimate top four. If Smith comes back healthy after back surgery he will not disappoint. Kubalik gotta play lets make a deal too? I hope you're right about Seabs and also admire you optimism! Smith has been the epitome of disappointment the last several years. I was gonna post his stats but the Hawks site has him on neither their regular season stats or roster page for some reason.......wishful thinking? 3.2M for a 4th line wing? I know it's not 'ray-o sunshine-like' but how do you fit these suggestions under the team's cap? |
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