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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 5, 2023 18:08:16 GMT -6
my current dream scenario for the upcoming draft is: 'hawks win the lotto and get the top pick. Michkov falls outside of the top ten and KD moves up to take him. profit. And get another 1st round pick and take Dragicevic. OTH getting the sense you gonna be a little salty if they dont take Dragicevic at 21
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 5, 2023 20:01:38 GMT -6
And get another 1st round pick and take Dragicevic. OTH getting the sense you gonna be a little salty if they dont take Dragicevic at 21 If he's available, I will be lol kinda like passing on Luneau with last years early 2nd, Ludwinski could be a solid player but I'd take a right handed dman with size, offense, and grit any day.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 7, 2023 17:03:31 GMT -6
Fantilli wins the Hobey Baker award.
3rd freshman to do so. the others were Paul Kariya and Jach Eichel. pretty good company...
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Post by BigT on Apr 7, 2023 17:06:31 GMT -6
Fantilli wins the Hobey Baker award. 3rd freshman to do so. the others were Paul Kariya and Jach Eichel. pretty good company... I think the kids the real deal. Pick 1 or 2 are gonna be game changers. Sure there’s a lot of good talent in there. But those top 2 are very special!!!
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Post by vadarx on Apr 7, 2023 18:13:42 GMT -6
Fantilli wins the Hobey Baker award. 3rd freshman to do so. the others were Paul Kariya and Jach Eichel. pretty good company... I think the kids the real deal. Pick 1 or 2 are gonna be game changers. Sure there’s a lot of good talent in there. But those top 2 are very special!!! seems similar to the 2015 draft to me. #1 is probably going to be a generational type and #2 is probably going to be an all-star type. similar also in the amount of talent throughout.
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Post by BigT on Apr 7, 2023 19:59:40 GMT -6
I think the kids the real deal. Pick 1 or 2 are gonna be game changers. Sure there’s a lot of good talent in there. But those top 2 are very special!!! seems similar to the 2015 draft to me. #1 is probably going to be a generational type and #2 is probably going to be an all-star type. similar also in the amount of talent throughout. I truly believe that Fantilli will be far better than Eichel, and Bedard won’t be as good as McDavid. But you’re bang on with the 2015 draft. It was the best ever, or at least in recent memory. This year should be good too. Hoping the Hawks get a few gems outta this draft. And they probably will. Like we chatted earlier this week. KD has the tools to move up. I believe 2 things happen. Same thing as last years trade with Toronta. The Hawks moved up to 25. I think they’ll trade 2 2nds to get another pick in the first round. And they’ll take on salary for another pick!!!
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Post by vadarx on Apr 8, 2023 5:23:04 GMT -6
seems similar to the 2015 draft to me. #1 is probably going to be a generational type and #2 is probably going to be an all-star type. similar also in the amount of talent throughout. I truly believe that Fantilli will be far better than Eichel, and Bedard won’t be as good as McDavid. But you’re bang on with the 2015 draft. It was the best ever, or at least in recent memory. This year should be good too. Hoping the Hawks get a few gems outta this draft. And they probably will. Like we chatted earlier this week. KD has the tools to move up. I believe 2 things happen. Same thing as last years trade with Toronta. The Hawks moved up to 25. I think they’ll trade 2 2nds to get another pick in the first round. And they’ll take on salary for another pick!!! agree that they'll try and move up and snag another first with those second rounders. we will see if anyone will be interested.
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Post by BigT on Apr 8, 2023 5:48:12 GMT -6
I truly believe that Fantilli will be far better than Eichel, and Bedard won’t be as good as McDavid. But you’re bang on with the 2015 draft. It was the best ever, or at least in recent memory. This year should be good too. Hoping the Hawks get a few gems outta this draft. And they probably will. Like we chatted earlier this week. KD has the tools to move up. I believe 2 things happen. Same thing as last years trade with Toronta. The Hawks moved up to 25. I think they’ll trade 2 2nds to get another pick in the first round. And they’ll take on salary for another pick!!! agree that they'll try and move up and snag another first with those second rounders. we will see if anyone will be interested. A team like Montreal that has 2 1sts, they’ll probably want more picks as their rebuild is way further down the line. The Rags still have that other 1st left. And I could see them wanting a couple picks to help stockpile for future trades etc. With a deep draft, teams will be more than willing to trade back. Especially when they said that there is 60 kids this year that are 1st round picks. So I’d like to see the Hawks trade a mixture of picks to get a couple more 1st rounders. Take on a bad contract and pick up another first. I feel there’s a good chance at this. In a draft like this one. Getting into the 1st round is a must. They know this. There are always a few GMs willing to move back. The Hawks have the tools to accommodate!!!
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 8, 2023 8:17:41 GMT -6
I truly believe that Fantilli will be far better than Eichel, and Bedard won’t be as good as McDavid. But you’re bang on with the 2015 draft. It was the best ever, or at least in recent memory. This year should be good too. Hoping the Hawks get a few gems outta this draft. And they probably will. Like we chatted earlier this week. KD has the tools to move up. I believe 2 things happen. Same thing as last years trade with Toronta. The Hawks moved up to 25. I think they’ll trade 2 2nds to get another pick in the first round. And they’ll take on salary for another pick!!! agree that they'll try and move up and snag another first with those second rounders. we will see if anyone will be interested. Well, we know KD is not averse to making draft day deals - that's for sure. Knowing patience is not a virtue I have in abundance, and knowing as an old geezer I should want to savor time and not rush things - I can't help being vexed by the dichotomy. Kind of a hurry up and wait for the draft lottery to take place so our draft plans for that 1st pick can come into focus.
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Post by acesandeights on Apr 9, 2023 8:12:36 GMT -6
One other thing I can attest to is Colby Barlow. This kid is awesome. If the Hawks win a few unexpected games here. I’d definitely take him in the top 5 if the Hawks had the 4-5 pick, that’s who I’d take. Already captain of Owen Sound at 17. Kid has a beard too. He’s gonna be a man’s man. Has over 40 goals too!!! There was an article in Blackhawk Up about a month ago titled "Colby Barlow Should be a Target of the Blackhawks." The writer was real high on Barlow. Apparently Barlow is a little more advanced both physically and maturity wise for his age. He also said Barlow had 44 goals in 55 games at that time. The guy also had the same thought that I think you and maybe someone else had talked about on here several days ago, about moving up. This guy said if Barlow was still around in the 11-13 range, if he was Kyle Davidson he would package the Tampa first rounder, along with a couple of the second rounders to try and move up to get Barlow. I like the idea of using some of these high picks to move up and get a high level prospect. I know the Hawks need more prospects but they need more high end prospects in the system, and those types don't usually last very long in a draft. Trades like that also wouldn't leave the cupboard bare of high round picks since they also have two first rounders in 2024, as well as two picks in each of the 2nd and 3rd rds.
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Post by steamer on Apr 9, 2023 9:22:13 GMT -6
OTH getting the sense you gonna be a little salty if they dont take Dragicevic at 21 If he's available, I will be lol kinda like passing on Luneau with last years early 2nd, Ludwinski could be a solid player but I'd take a right handed dman with size, offense, and grit any day. Well having seen defense shut down the big scorers in the Frozen 4, we can’t draft enough top D-men. A pretty good offense with a very good defense seems to win at crunch time over a very good offense paired with only a pretty good defense. It is very encouraging to see the D drafted so far by the Hawks.
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Post by BigT on Apr 9, 2023 10:02:25 GMT -6
One other thing I can attest to is Colby Barlow. This kid is awesome. If the Hawks win a few unexpected games here. I’d definitely take him in the top 5 if the Hawks had the 4-5 pick, that’s who I’d take. Already captain of Owen Sound at 17. Kid has a beard too. He’s gonna be a man’s man. Has over 40 goals too!!! There was an article in Blackhawk Up about a month ago titled "Colby Barlow Should be a Target of the Blackhawks." The writer was real high on Barlow. Apparently Barlow is a little more advanced both physically and maturity wise for his age. He also said Barlow had 44 goals in 55 games at that time. The guy also had the same thought that I think you and maybe someone else had talked about on here several days ago, about moving up. This guy said if Barlow was still around in the 11-13 range, if he was Kyle Davidson he would package the Tampa first rounder, along with a couple of the second rounders to try and move up to get Barlow. I like the idea of using some of these high picks to move up and get a high level prospect. I know the Hawks need more prospects but they need more high end prospects in the system, and those types don't usually last very long in a draft. Trades like that also wouldn't leave the cupboard bare of high round picks since they also have two first rounders in 2024, as well as two picks in each of the 2nd and 3rd rds. On the flip side. If the Hawks get 2nd worst record and lose the lotto, then pick 5. I feel they should try and move back a couple spots, collect another 2nd rounder or even another 1st rounder. Pick Barlow, then use the extra picks you just received to gain another higher pick from a team willing to move back. So maybe the Hawks pick #7, #9, #21. I think they could do well if they did a scenario like I just said. Let’s just hope the Hawks get a top 2 pick and the rest is history!!!
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Post by 2old4this on Apr 10, 2023 2:14:13 GMT -6
The Hawks have an excellent chance of getting #1 pick, at least before the lottery
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Post by steamer on Apr 12, 2023 16:04:26 GMT -6
Forgive me for being too lazy to look back at older posts but will the Hawks pick from the Lightning be anywhere from #17 to 32 - depending upon how they do in the playoffs?
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 16:23:07 GMT -6
Forgive me for being too lazy to look back at older posts but will the Hawks pick from the Lightning be anywhere from #17 to 32 - depending upon how they do in the playoffs? Yes
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Post by phill9 on Apr 12, 2023 18:09:20 GMT -6
Forgive me for being too lazy to look back at older posts but will the Hawks pick from the Lightning be anywhere from #17 to 32 - depending upon how they do in the playoffs? 17? Right now Tampa is behind 12 teams and ahead of 19. Wouldn't that mean the pick would be anywhere from 20 to 32?
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Post by BigT on Apr 12, 2023 18:11:21 GMT -6
Forgive me for being too lazy to look back at older posts but will the Hawks pick from the Lightning be anywhere from #17 to 32 - depending upon how they do in the playoffs? 17? Right now Tampa is behind 12 teams and ahead of 19. Wouldn't that mean the pick would be anywhere from 20 to 32? Last I seen was it was pick 21 or 22. So we should be expecting that unless they go to the finals!!!
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 18:18:57 GMT -6
Forgive me for being too lazy to look back at older posts but will the Hawks pick from the Lightning be anywhere from #17 to 32 - depending upon how they do in the playoffs? 17? Right now Tampa is behind 12 teams and ahead of 19. Wouldn't that mean the pick would be anywhere from 20 to 32? i believe Tampa has 3 playoff teams behind them in the standings when the playoffs start. If all 3 of those teams were to win in round 1 and Tampa losses it would be 17th pick a tall order but possible.
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Post by steamer on Apr 12, 2023 18:29:03 GMT -6
So Boston for example if they lose in the first round, they go to #24 because they had the best record of the 8 first round losing teams?
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 18:32:31 GMT -6
now you got me second guessing myself
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Post by BigT on Apr 12, 2023 18:38:35 GMT -6
So Boston for example if they lose in the first round, they go to #24 because they had the best record of the 8 first round losing teams? I believe the top 4 teams in the playoffs take up the last 4 spots. So Boston losing in round one would get pick 28. 29/30/31/32 are all for the final four!!!
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Post by phill9 on Apr 12, 2023 18:45:04 GMT -6
So Boston for example if they lose in the first round, they go to #24 because they had the best record of the 8 first round losing teams? I believe the top 4 teams in the playoffs take up the last 4 spots. So Boston losing in round one would get pick 28. 29/30/31/32 are all for the final four!!! My head hurts
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 19:15:02 GMT -6
ok im waiting for Lord to post something.... The teams that did not qualify for the playoffs the previous season (picks 1–16) The teams that made the playoffs in the previous season but did not win either their division in the regular season or play in the Conference Finals (picks 17–24 up to 28) The teams that won their divisions in the previous season but did not play in the Conference Finals (potentially picks 25–28) The teams that lose in Conference Finals (picks 29 and 30) The team that was the runner-up in the Stanley Cup Finals (pick 31) The team that won the Stanley Cup in the previous season (pick 32) that all gave me a head ach
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 19:17:16 GMT -6
i did learn how to copy something on my labtop so thats a win!
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Post by nighbor on Apr 12, 2023 19:18:47 GMT -6
ok im waiting for Lord to post something.... The teams that did not qualify for the playoffs the previous season (picks 1–16) The teams that made the playoffs in the previous season but did not win either their division in the regular season or play in the Conference Finals (picks 17–24 up to 28) The teams that won their divisions in the previous season but did not play in the Conference Finals (potentially picks 25–28) The teams that lose in Conference Finals (picks 29 and 30) The team that was the runner-up in the Stanley Cup Finals (pick 31) The team that won the Stanley Cup in the previous season (pick 32) that all gave me a head ach The new Stanley Cup winner ends up with pick 32.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 12, 2023 20:40:09 GMT -6
So cutting through all that stuff - we want the Rangers to win the Cup and TB to be bounced in the 1st round ... got it.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2023 21:01:23 GMT -6
So cutting through all that stuff - we want the Rangers to win the Cup and TB to be bounced in the 1st round ... got it. the rags reaching the eastern conference finals would be enough to turn that second rounder to a first if that's what you're referencing.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 12, 2023 21:21:11 GMT -6
So cutting through all that stuff - we want the Rangers to win the Cup and TB to be bounced in the 1st round ... got it. the rags reaching the eastern conference finals would be enough to turn that second rounder to a first if that's what you're referencing. And the first is next years. If they do make the conference finals hopefully next season is a bad one for them.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2023 22:17:07 GMT -6
the rags reaching the eastern conference finals would be enough to turn that second rounder to a first if that's what you're referencing. And the first is next years. If they do make the conference finals hopefully next season is a bad one for them. it could be 2025 first as well. can't see it being a top 10 pick in either year but one can dream. The second-round pick going to Chicago will become a first-round selection in either 2024 or 2025 if the Rangers reach the Eastern Conference Final this season. It's top-10 protected in 2024. www.nhl.com/news/patrick-kane-traded-to-new-york-rangers-from-chicago-blackhawks/c-341625462
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 12, 2023 22:21:55 GMT -6
And the first is next years. If they do make the conference finals hopefully next season is a bad one for them. it could be 2025 first as well. can't see it being a top 10 pick in either year but one can dream. The second-round pick going to Chicago will become a first-round selection in either 2024 or 2025 if the Rangers reach the Eastern Conference Final this season. It's top-10 protected in 2024. www.nhl.com/news/patrick-kane-traded-to-new-york-rangers-from-chicago-blackhawks/c-341625462That'll be sweet if they get a first in 2024 and it's the 11th pick, one can dream.
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