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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 5, 2023 18:03:33 GMT -6
I hope he gets 20, trigger some bonuses maybe. Everybody deserves something for enduring this season. What about the fans, they don't even get a last place finish. most fans ( not of this team)want first place finishes they dont get that either. Ill take a 3rd place finish and CB please!
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 5, 2023 18:25:30 GMT -6
what? we scored a goal in the last minute?? can we do that? absolute piss weak play by kadri there.i got a feeling this is sutter's last season coaching calgary. he's signed on for 1 more after this year. I bet bitter beer face gave him an earful after that.
whoa. that's bitter all right. : ) wow. page 3? it's been a while.
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 5, 2023 18:47:00 GMT -6
Care less about the Flames, was refering to the Hawks kids playing and the few vets. I wasn't thinking you were interested in the mental state of Flames' players. But, as a matter of the integrity of the league, I am. It is hard for me to imagine a team two points away from a playoff position that gave a shit about their team's status, would have lost to the Hawks at this point of the season. It just tells me that there is at least one team in that league that flat out doesn't give a shit about any degree of excellence and effort. Are there others? Who knows, but I like sports for competition, not whatever bs the Flames are creating in southern Alberta. Last night could have been one of "those games" that took the Flames off their game. They are 6-3-1 their last 10 including last nights game. I don't watch any of their games to say they quit or don't give effort.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 5, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -6
idk who that team was that beat the jets tonight but that wasn't the same team we beat in calgary last game.
markstrom stopped 34 of 35, zadorov had 1g, 1a (and one disallowed goal).
3 horse race for the last wildcard in the west with the preds (outside chance) joining the jets and the flames....although the 2 latter teams seem intent on backing into the playoffs. as long as it isn't nashville i'd be ok with either team getting in.
should be interesting.
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 6, 2023 8:51:47 GMT -6
Care less about the Flames, was refering to the Hawks kids playing and the few vets. I wasn't thinking you were interested in the mental state of Flames' players. But, as a matter of the integrity of the league, I am. It is hard for me to imagine a team two points away from a playoff position that gave a shit about their team's status, would have lost to the Hawks at this point of the season. It just tells me that there is at least one team in that league that flat out doesn't give a shit about any degree of excellence and effort. Are there others? Who knows, but I like sports for competition, not whatever bs the Flames are creating in southern Alberta. As I've mentioned before, the Isles in 2010 kicked the snot out of the 'hawks...the same 'hawks that won the cup. Sometimes a poorer overall team matches up with a better one. Also, Calgary should have been sleepwalking through the 'hawks. It happens. When we were good we were guilty of it too.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 6, 2023 17:07:17 GMT -6
I wasn't thinking you were interested in the mental state of Flames' players. But, as a matter of the integrity of the league, I am. It is hard for me to imagine a team two points away from a playoff position that gave a shit about their team's status, would have lost to the Hawks at this point of the season. It just tells me that there is at least one team in that league that flat out doesn't give a shit about any degree of excellence and effort. Are there others? Who knows, but I like sports for competition, not whatever bs the Flames are creating in southern Alberta. As I've mentioned before, the Isles in 2010 kicked the snot out of the 'hawks...the same 'hawks that won the cup. Sometimes a poorer overall team matches up with a better one. Also, Calgary should have been sleepwalking through the 'hawks. It happens. When we were good we were guilty of it too. OK, I can understand sleepwalkilng in game #47, or #54, or even #62. But, with 5 games left in the season and every point means so much to lose to the Chicago team indicates that there is some serious problem with that team. I guess they fundamentally have no leadership behind the bench or on it. A team doesn't lose a game like that, especially at home and that's all I am going to say about it. It is pure bs to lose that game.
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 6, 2023 17:32:39 GMT -6
As I've mentioned before, the Isles in 2010 kicked the snot out of the 'hawks...the same 'hawks that won the cup. Sometimes a poorer overall team matches up with a better one. Also, Calgary should have been sleepwalking through the 'hawks. It happens. When we were good we were guilty of it too. OK, I can understand sleepwalkilng in game #47, or #54, or even #62. But, with 5 games left in the season and every point means so much to lose to the Chicago team indicates that there is some serious problem with that team. I guess they fundamentally have no leadership behind the bench or on it. A team doesn't lose a game like that, especially at home and that's all I am going to say about it. It is pure bs to lose that game. I don't disagree and you might be right about something being wrong with Cal-gary. It did seem to wake them up fort the next game. But I could see a Cal-gary fan being pissed like we were late in 2017 and how the hawks ended that year.
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Post by Nikos on Apr 6, 2023 18:18:50 GMT -6
As I've mentioned before, the Isles in 2010 kicked the snot out of the 'hawks...the same 'hawks that won the cup. Sometimes a poorer overall team matches up with a better one. Also, Calgary should have been sleepwalking through the 'hawks. It happens. When we were good we were guilty of it too. OK, I can understand sleepwalkilng in game #47, or #54, or even #62. But, with 5 games left in the season and every point means so much to lose to the Chicago team indicates that there is some serious problem with that team. I guess they fundamentally have no leadership behind the bench or on it. A team doesn't lose a game like that, especially at home and that's all I am going to say about it. It is pure bs to lose that game. Then why play the game, just give the two points to Calgary. I think sometimes we all believe certain things should happen and when it doesn't the team that loses something is got to be seriously wrong. Maybe it is simple as Mrazek was very good and Markstrom was average, but the next night Markstrom was very good versus the Jets. Did the leadership change in 24 hours? Darryl Sutter is a two time Stanley cup champ as a coach. Look I understand we as fans are frustrated our Hawks notched a meaningless win and possibly hurt their chances to get the 1st overall pick, but they played 2 very good periods and Mrazek was excellent and in hockey that is good enough to earn points in most games regardless of who is playing. I personally did not see Calgary sleepwalking in the game, our goalie was better than Markstrom. We all have seen goalies win playoffs series let alone just one game.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 7, 2023 7:46:57 GMT -6
OK, I can understand sleepwalkilng in game #47, or #54, or even #62. But, with 5 games left in the season and every point means so much to lose to the Chicago team indicates that there is some serious problem with that team. I guess they fundamentally have no leadership behind the bench or on it. A team doesn't lose a game like that, especially at home and that's all I am going to say about it. It is pure bs to lose that game. Then why play the game, just give the two points to Calgary. I think sometimes we all believe certain things should happen and when it doesn't the team that loses something is got to be seriously wrong. Maybe it is simple as Mrazek was very good and Markstrom was average, but the next night Markstrom was very good versus the Jets. Did the leadership change in 24 hours? Darryl Sutter is a two time Stanley cup champ as a coach. Look I understand we as fans are frustrated our Hawks notched a meaningless win and possibly hurt their chances to get the 1st overall pick, but they played 2 very good periods and Mrazek was excellent and in hockey that is good enough to earn points in most games regardless of who is playing. I personally did not see Calgary sleepwalking in the game, our goalie was better than Markstrom. We all have seen goalies win playoffs series let alone just one game. All you say is true and is a good retort to my negative comments about Calgary. But, if the loss was not in part due to mental failings on the part of the Shames, I would be totally surprised. As has been said, the next night they got their shit together and beat the Jets. Would it be absurd to think that they got better focused for that game than they were for the one against the pushover Hawks. If true, then it shows that the Shames were unfocused idiots when the played the Hawks. To be so unfocused is a sign of a lack of leadership.
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Post by Nikos on Apr 7, 2023 9:29:48 GMT -6
Then why play the game, just give the two points to Calgary. I think sometimes we all believe certain things should happen and when it doesn't the team that loses something is got to be seriously wrong. Maybe it is simple as Mrazek was very good and Markstrom was average, but the next night Markstrom was very good versus the Jets. Did the leadership change in 24 hours? Darryl Sutter is a two time Stanley cup champ as a coach. Look I understand we as fans are frustrated our Hawks notched a meaningless win and possibly hurt their chances to get the 1st overall pick, but they played 2 very good periods and Mrazek was excellent and in hockey that is good enough to earn points in most games regardless of who is playing. I personally did not see Calgary sleepwalking in the game, our goalie was better than Markstrom. We all have seen goalies win playoffs series let alone just one game. All you say is true and is a good retort to my negative comments about Calgary. But, if the loss was not in part due to mental failings on the part of the Shames, I would be totally surprised. As has been said, the next night they got their shit together and beat the Jets. Would it be absurd to think that they got better focused for that game than they were for the one against the pushover Hawks. If true, then it shows that the Shames were unfocused idiots when the played the Hawks. To be so unfocused is a sign of a lack of leadership. Your opinion of lack of focus could be true and may have contributed to the loss. My main point was the Hawks played a pretty good game and Mrazek was very good for a change. Sometimes that is the difference in a game or win versus a loss.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 7, 2023 12:56:01 GMT -6
All you say is true and is a good retort to my negative comments about Calgary. But, if the loss was not in part due to mental failings on the part of the Shames, I would be totally surprised. As has been said, the next night they got their shit together and beat the Jets. Would it be absurd to think that they got better focused for that game than they were for the one against the pushover Hawks. If true, then it shows that the Shames were unfocused idiots when the played the Hawks. To be so unfocused is a sign of a lack of leadership. Your opinion of lack of focus could be true and may have contributed to the loss. My main point was the Hawks played a pretty good game and Mrazek was very good for a change. Sometimes that is the difference in a game or win versus a loss. You are right, a hot glove by Mrazek could easily have been the difference. But, how the Shames allowed the Squawks to score 4 goals ain't got nothin' to do with Mrazek.
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Post by Nikos on Apr 7, 2023 17:23:13 GMT -6
Your opinion of lack of focus could be true and may have contributed to the loss. My main point was the Hawks played a pretty good game and Mrazek was very good for a change. Sometimes that is the difference in a game or win versus a loss. You are right, a hot glove by Mrazek could easily have been the difference. But, how the Shames allowed the Squawks to score 4 goals ain't got nothin' to do with Mrazek. One word Markstrom
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Post by hsbob on Apr 8, 2023 10:33:46 GMT -6
Then why play the game, just give the two points to Calgary. I think sometimes we all believe certain things should happen and when it doesn't the team that loses something is got to be seriously wrong. Maybe it is simple as Mrazek was very good and Markstrom was average, but the next night Markstrom was very good versus the Jets. Did the leadership change in 24 hours? Darryl Sutter is a two time Stanley cup champ as a coach. Look I understand we as fans are frustrated our Hawks notched a meaningless win and possibly hurt their chances to get the 1st overall pick, but they played 2 very good periods and Mrazek was excellent and in hockey that is good enough to earn points in most games regardless of who is playing. I personally did not see Calgary sleepwalking in the game, our goalie was better than Markstrom. We all have seen goalies win playoffs series let alone just one game. All you say is true and is a good retort to my negative comments about Calgary. But, if the loss was not in part due to mental failings on the part of the Shames, I would be totally surprised. As has been said, the next night they got their shit together and beat the Jets. Would it be absurd to think that they got better focused for that game than they were for the one against the pushover Hawks. If true, then it shows that the Shames were unfocused idiots when the played the Hawks. To be so unfocused is a sign of a lack of leadership. The "Shames"....that's awesome my friend. You're a beaut! I have to admit that I'm surprised by how a guy who's followed hockey as long as you have still struggles with the 'any given night' aspect of the game to be honest though. I know it's hard to explain why a good,healthy team that's playing well can lose badly to a banged-up,bottom feeder playing like shit but we see it quite often and we see it more in hockey than the other major sports IMO. That 'any given night' aspect can include a red-hot GT or a good team that doesn't have it's legs for a reason no one will ever figure out and there's something else we see more in hockey than the other sports........'will' can defeat skill sometimes.
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