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Post by higgyhawk on Mar 4, 2024 21:42:36 GMT -6
Looks like another shutout coming
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 4, 2024 22:12:44 GMT -6
Looks like another shutout coming that would be 3 of 4 games lost by shutout to the avs. it's really hard for me to fathom how this team beat colorado earlier this year.
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Post by B-A-Hawk on Mar 4, 2024 22:17:33 GMT -6
I wish Jones wouldn't shoot on the pp
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Post by higgyhawk on Mar 4, 2024 22:20:17 GMT -6
How is Raddysh in the line-up let alone the pp
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Post by higgyhawk on Mar 4, 2024 22:21:25 GMT -6
Break the effin shutout
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 4, 2024 22:31:33 GMT -6
Try Colorado.
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 4, 2024 22:33:14 GMT -6
i wonder...did mackinnon bank that off megma on purpose?
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Post by reylohawks on Mar 4, 2024 22:34:03 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 4, 2024 22:39:55 GMT -6
outscored 16-3 in 4 games against the avs this year.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 4, 2024 22:48:47 GMT -6
Wow was thinking mid 3rd Pang and Volsters should get hazard pay. Gotta be rough as hell not to slip up and say who Fn cares. Great pass by Kor and that concludes your highlights for tonight. Oh well
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 5, 2024 5:07:22 GMT -6
Wow was thinking mid 3rd Pang and Volsters should get hazard pay. Gotta be rough as hell not to slip up and say who Fn cares. i often wonder how foley would call these games with the team being so bad. i remember the last couple of years (colliton years) where his displeasure with the team was at times quite obvious. "will they win the board battle this time?" "not this time i guess." he just seemed sarcastically bored with the game at times....quite likely because the games were bad. going to beat some to the punch here by saying yes...i would still prefer foley doing the play by play but i'd be curious how he'd come across at times with the current team and the current streak.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 5, 2024 5:17:41 GMT -6
I think Vosters just called Bowen Byram “Bowling Byram”!!! Not as bad as Pang saying Nikita Kurashev, both guys need to go.
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 5, 2024 5:28:57 GMT -6
Wow was thinking mid 3rd Pang and Volsters should get hazard pay. Gotta be rough as hell not to slip up and say who Fn cares. i often wonder how foley would call these games with the team being so bad. i remember the last couple of years (colliton years) where his displeasure with the team was at times quite obvious. "will they win the board battle this time?" "not this time i guess." he just seemed sarcastically bored with the game at times....quite likely because the games were bad. going to beat some to the punch here by saying yes...i would still prefer foley doing the play by play but i'd be curious how he'd come across at times with the current team and the current streak. When the Hawks were bad, Foley and Tallon/Edzo sounded like they were drunk on soft serve ice cream.
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Post by BigT on Mar 5, 2024 7:08:18 GMT -6
I fully understand the art of the rebuild. I just hope that the team shows improvement next year. At some point if the extreme tank continues, fans will definitely start to disappear. I get it, can’t rush prospects. So would it have been better last year to sign some better players? Like Compher etc to maybe even a 4 year deal? Don’t have to sign 5 guys like that. But even 2 goes a long way.
I know injuries have happened. But are those injuries possible again? Could this same exact scenario play itself out again?
Games like tonight will happen. I can accept that. But It’s tough to be out talented to other bottom teams. Just makes you wonder how far the team has to go to get to mediocrity?
Again, I’m all for the rebuild. But maybe he tore this down past the studs? I know this is a moot point, however, Kane would not of hurt to bring back. And not for any other reason than the on ice product.
I don’t think this can happen again. If it does, I’d replace the GM immediately. I get it, teams are heavily tanking these days. But with the salary cap in place, the tank doesn’t have to be 5 years at absolute bottom!!!
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 5, 2024 9:27:24 GMT -6
I fully understand the art of the rebuild. I just hope that the team shows improvement next year. At some point if the extreme tank continues, fans will definitely start to disappear. I get it, can’t rush prospects. So would it have been better last year to sign some better players? Like Compher etc to maybe even a 4 year deal? Don’t have to sign 5 guys like that. But even 2 goes a long way. I know injuries have happened. But are those injuries possible again? Could this same exact scenario play itself out again? Games like tonight will happen. I can accept that. But It’s tough to be out talented to other bottom teams. Just makes you wonder how far the team has to go to get to mediocrity? Again, I’m all for the rebuild. But maybe he tore this down past the studs? I know this is a moot point, however, Kane would not of hurt to bring back. And not for any other reason than the on ice product. I don’t think this can happen again. If it does, I’d replace the GM immediately. I get it, teams are heavily tanking these days. But with the salary cap in place, the tank doesn’t have to be 5 years at absolute bottom!!! I think the damage to a club matters, and the previous gen did plenty of damage. Plus, we are seeing some brilliance of the kids amongst the clusterfuckery. That is a good sign. I agree if we stagnate that KD needs to be thrown out the door, but this is year 1 with the nascent core; we sucked in 2006 as well.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 5, 2024 9:28:09 GMT -6
i often wonder how foley would call these games with the team being so bad. i remember the last couple of years (colliton years) where his displeasure with the team was at times quite obvious. "will they win the board battle this time?" "not this time i guess." he just seemed sarcastically bored with the game at times....quite likely because the games were bad. going to beat some to the punch here by saying yes...i would still prefer foley doing the play by play but i'd be curious how he'd come across at times with the current team and the current streak. When the Hawks were bad, Foley and Tallon/Edzo sounded like they were drunk on soft serve ice cream. I believe they were bad when they did the epic Karpotszev rant. ... Or the wee-knee.
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Post by Granada on Mar 5, 2024 9:44:15 GMT -6
I fully understand the art of the rebuild. I just hope that the team shows improvement next year. At some point if the extreme tank continues, fans will definitely start to disappear. I get it, can’t rush prospects. So would it have been better last year to sign some better players? Like Compher etc to maybe even a 4 year deal? Don’t have to sign 5 guys like that. But even 2 goes a long way. I know injuries have happened. But are those injuries possible again? Could this same exact scenario play itself out again? Games like tonight will happen. I can accept that. But It’s tough to be out talented to other bottom teams. Just makes you wonder how far the team has to go to get to mediocrity? Again, I’m all for the rebuild. But maybe he tore this down past the studs? I know this is a moot point, however, Kane would not of hurt to bring back. And not for any other reason than the on ice product. I don’t think this can happen again. If it does, I’d replace the GM immediately. I get it, teams are heavily tanking these days. But with the salary cap in place, the tank doesn’t have to be 5 years at absolute bottom!!! Other than the Kane argument, I somewhat agree. I'll say this though, it was an incredibly fluky year with injuries, I can't remember a time when the team was that ravaged for this length of time. Throw in the Perry thing, and it's no wonder why this year was so atrocious. I can't help but see that as beyond Davidson's control. That said, this off-season will be extremely important for Davidson. He can't put as much of an emphasis on picks and prospects. I do think his strategy will change next season, not only to appease the fans, but also Bedard.
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Post by BigT on Mar 5, 2024 9:49:05 GMT -6
I fully understand the art of the rebuild. I just hope that the team shows improvement next year. At some point if the extreme tank continues, fans will definitely start to disappear. I get it, can’t rush prospects. So would it have been better last year to sign some better players? Like Compher etc to maybe even a 4 year deal? Don’t have to sign 5 guys like that. But even 2 goes a long way. I know injuries have happened. But are those injuries possible again? Could this same exact scenario play itself out again? Games like tonight will happen. I can accept that. But It’s tough to be out talented to other bottom teams. Just makes you wonder how far the team has to go to get to mediocrity? Again, I’m all for the rebuild. But maybe he tore this down past the studs? I know this is a moot point, however, Kane would not of hurt to bring back. And not for any other reason than the on ice product. I don’t think this can happen again. If it does, I’d replace the GM immediately. I get it, teams are heavily tanking these days. But with the salary cap in place, the tank doesn’t have to be 5 years at absolute bottom!!! I think the damage to a club matters, and the previous gen did plenty of damage. Plus, we are seeing some brilliance of the kids amongst the clusterfuckery. That is a good sign. I agree if we stagnate that KD needs to be thrown out the door, but this is year 1 with the nascent core; we sucked in 2006 as well. I don’t believe this is year 1. It doesn’t matter the last GMs plans. The team has been rebuilding for about 5 years now. The only good news is we’re finally starting to see some fruit from that. Like Kurashev, Vlasic, Entwhistle, etc. not a lot. But there is some from the last regime and also some decent prospects still there. So the rebuild did start a while ago. The tear down is only a year or so old. So KDs plan is in its sophomore year. But by next year, gotta show some type of improvement. Like I said. There’s a lot of leftovers to sift from too. Plus the new stock. If the team finishes last, that’s ok. Just like we seen in 2007–08. Team sucked. But there was some hope on the horizon. Right now, all we have is a list of prospects that haven’t proved anything yet. This is why I’d like to see some outside help. Sign a couple decent guys on 3-4 year deals!!!
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Post by Granada on Mar 5, 2024 9:52:56 GMT -6
I hope Bedard isn't getting too inside his own head. Had at least two clear-cut breakaways he couldn't finish in what, the past 3 games I believe. I spared myself the 3rd because I fell asleep (of course I did). Foligno with the bad turnover in the first, you had 4 Hawks going to one Av on the Makar goal in the 2nd (I think it was), with Beauvillier once again completely losing his man.
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Post by tincup on Mar 5, 2024 10:21:10 GMT -6
I hope Bedard isn't getting too inside his own head. Had at least two clear-cut breakaways he couldn't finish in what, the past 3 games I believe. I spared myself the 3rd because I fell asleep (of course I did). Foligno with the bad turnover in the first, you had 4 Hawks going to one Av on the Makar goal in the 2nd (I think it was), with Beauvillier once again completely losing his man. The goal you mentioned…there’s a lot going wrong here… shouldn’t one expect that such horrible coverage, and this is just one example, have been coached out of them at this point? At least to some degree?
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Post by Granada on Mar 5, 2024 10:42:45 GMT -6
I hope Bedard isn't getting too inside his own head. Had at least two clear-cut breakaways he couldn't finish in what, the past 3 games I believe. I spared myself the 3rd because I fell asleep (of course I did). Foligno with the bad turnover in the first, you had 4 Hawks going to one Av on the Makar goal in the 2nd (I think it was), with Beauvillier once again completely losing his man. The goal you mentioned…there’s a lot going wrong here… shouldn’t one expect that such horrible coverage, and this is just one example, have been coached out of them at this point? At least to some degree? Yeah, you would hope so, but unfortunately it hasn't. That goal was a microcosm of the game itself: Avs just running circles around the Hawks, making it look utterly easy. Lost board battle, puck watching, lost man in coverage. Beyond ugly.
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Post by BigT on Mar 5, 2024 10:45:21 GMT -6
I think Beauvillier was collapsing then realized “oh shit” Makar is behind me wide open. Just stupid hockey there!!!
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Post by tincup on Mar 5, 2024 11:21:13 GMT -6
I think Beauvillier was collapsing then realized “oh shit” Makar is behind me wide open. Just stupid hockey there!!! At this point in the season it’s ridiculous to hear this…need to read the full post. Can’t score? I get it. Can’t defend? No reasonable explanation except that the coaches are impotent or the players have tuned out. Helluva culture.
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Post by hsbob on Mar 5, 2024 12:03:43 GMT -6
Hawks win 6-0 to avenge for their loss the other night. Before youse all ask: I am in Oregon, I can smoke whatever I want. Shrooms too!
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Post by hsbob on Mar 5, 2024 12:16:07 GMT -6
I fully understand the art of the rebuild. I just hope that the team shows improvement next year. At some point if the extreme tank continues, fans will definitely start to disappear. I get it, can’t rush prospects. So would it have been better last year to sign some better players? Like Compher etc to maybe even a 4 year deal? Don’t have to sign 5 guys like that. But even 2 goes a long way. I know injuries have happened. But are those injuries possible again? Could this same exact scenario play itself out again? Games like tonight will happen. I can accept that. But It’s tough to be out talented to other bottom teams. Just makes you wonder how far the team has to go to get to mediocrity? Again, I’m all for the rebuild. But maybe he tore this down past the studs? I know this is a moot point, however, Kane would not of hurt to bring back. And not for any other reason than the on ice product. I don’t think this can happen again. If it does, I’d replace the GM immediately. I get it, teams are heavily tanking these days. But with the salary cap in place, the tank doesn’t have to be 5 years at absolute bottom!!! I don't see why not since Hall and AA are under contract for another 10.25M! Aging,injured and un-tradable.......both are unforced errors!
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 5, 2024 12:42:41 GMT -6
The nhl should aspire to put a bunch of MacKinnons on the ice-----play hard, fast and clean. It is time to weed out the headhunters and evildoers in this fucked up league. There should be no place for chumps who try to hurt people and play dirty. But, unfortunately, there may still be a significant portion of the fan base who prefers to see harm done instead of good, clean play. So, the league needs to keep its seats filled with those morons.
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Post by BigT on Mar 5, 2024 14:07:00 GMT -6
The nhl should aspire to put a bunch of MacKinnons on the ice-----play hard, fast and clean. It is time to weed out the headhunters and evildoers in this fucked up league. There should be no place for chumps who try to hurt people and play dirty. But, unfortunately, there may still a significant portion of the fan base who prefers to see harm done instead of good, clean play. So, the league needs to keep its seats filled with those morons. I’ll tell ya Jack. I played and the game happens faster than you know. Most plays are hockey plays. When it’s not, then I care. MacKinnon is 1 in a million. That’s why he’s that good!!!
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 5, 2024 17:30:08 GMT -6
The nhl should aspire to put a bunch of MacKinnons on the ice-----play hard, fast and clean. It is time to weed out the headhunters and evildoers in this fucked up league. There should be no place for chumps who try to hurt people and play dirty. But, unfortunately, there may still a significant portion of the fan base who prefers to see harm done instead of good, clean play. So, the league needs to keep its seats filled with those morons. I’ll tell ya Jack. I played and the game happens faster than you know. Most plays are hockey plays. When it’s not, then I care. MacKinnon is 1 in a million. That’s why he’s that good!!! But, the league can aspire to put a MacKinnon type product on the ice instead of assholes like Manson the Slasher and Reilly the Face Cross-Checker. Those were not hockey plays happening faster than one can recognize. They were pure criminal acts which were not punished sufficiently; and therefore, their recurrence is only encouraged by the lack of discipline for their original occurrence. In case you haven't recognized it, I am big on the elimination of plays designed only to injure someone or to express frustration by striking out like a three year old would. I didn't bitch about Bedard's busted jaw because most people agreed that it was one of those fast occurring hockey plays of which you write and there are others like them. But, when acts occur that would, if they occurred off the ice be punished as criminal acts, the fact that they occur when the perpetrator is wearing a uniform should make no difference. I say throw the book at 'em and jail them for awhile and don't let the time in jail count as part of the suspension of 10 to 40 games. Reilly's five game suspension didn't mean shit and will not deter any such actions in the future. In fact, it will only encourage them because the violence can be done without any severe punishment. That ain't no way to run a show, but the nhl does it because, as I said, they want to keep the neanderthal portion of its fan base entertained and coming back for more violence. To press a point I made earlier when I was whining about Manson slashing Bedard, what would the NFL had done if someone kicked Patrick Mahomes in his lower right arm after tackling him. That mfer would have been suspended for more than half the season and fined half his salary, unless there were some agreed rule that would prohibit that because the players were able to negotiate such a rule in order to protect themselves and their wallets from those times when they lose their cool and engage in pure violence.
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Post by BigT on Mar 6, 2024 7:54:54 GMT -6
Jack I agree about some of the stupid shit. I even agreed that Reilly should have been suspended. But not for 40-50 games. I thought 2 games was sufficient. The thing about hockey is that it teaches you that every player has to be accountable for their actions. When you take out fighting and let the rats run free, it gets old fast. If you slash the other teams best player, and think you’re gonna get away with it, you shouldn’t have that luxury.
Quick story I heard the other day. Matt Cooke ruined Marc Savards career. The next time they played, Chara, Shawn Thornton and a couple others met with a couple vets on the Pens in a back hallway before the game. They told the Pens guys that there will be an all out Donnybrook if Cooke doesn’t fight Shawn Thornton right off the opening faceoff. And they were gonna target the Pens best players. So, the Pens started Cooke and he got beat up. But it ended a massive fiasco. Good for the players to step up and take control. This is why fighting is necessary. Normally Thornton wouldn’t fight a guy out of their league. But he had to. And Cooke had to so his teammates didn’t face the slayer.
I personally don’t think cross checking should be allowed at all. My reasoning is that sticks should not be used as a weapon, ever. If you trip someone, it’s a penalty. If you hook, penalty. If you cross check, not a penalty? Which one is worse? Slashing, same thing. They should stop all stick infractions and get rid of the stupid shit!!!
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Post by 2old4this on Mar 6, 2024 9:01:15 GMT -6
I think Vosters just called Bowen Byram “Bowling Byram”!!! Not as bad as Pang saying Nikita Kurashev, both guys need to go. HOLY JUMPIN'
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