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Post by tincup on Mar 15, 2024 19:52:12 GMT -6
AA has shown some enthusiasm since his return.
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 15, 2024 20:00:25 GMT -6
First time Luke has yanked the goalie? That being said, can we swap Stauber and Soder already? I think if it hasn't happened by now it isn't going to happen this season...barring injury. For the life of me I don't know why.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 15, 2024 20:05:17 GMT -6
That being said, can we swap Stauber and Soder already? I think if it hasn't happened by now it isn't going to happen this season...barring injury. For the life of me I don't know why. Agreed, but really, what are they hoping Soder will do at this point? Might as well see if Stauber wants it more.
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Post by cudaman on Mar 15, 2024 20:10:23 GMT -6
fn Jones, hate him on the PP
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 15, 2024 20:10:38 GMT -6
Good thinking there... Just need to get it past the netminder.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 15, 2024 20:37:33 GMT -6
Nice save!
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Post by B-A-Hawk on Mar 15, 2024 20:39:38 GMT -6
C' Mon , just give us a goal
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Post by BigT on Mar 15, 2024 20:39:54 GMT -6
Byfield has really come along nicely. Good for him. Many rules him a bust. But he’s looking every part a 2nd overall.
Soderblom better save his duckets, I just can’t see the NHL in his future. I know he’s young. But he’s just got sooo many bad habits. He moves too much, his footwork is meh, he overreacts, his focus seems to wane. I don’t see him correcting all of that in the next year or so. Those bad habits are tough to correct!!!
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Post by higgyhawk on Mar 15, 2024 20:44:03 GMT -6
Don't get shutout again
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 15, 2024 20:48:06 GMT -6
Byfield has really come along nicely. Good for him. Many rules him a bust. But he’s looking every part a 2nd overall. Soderblom better save his duckets, I just can’t see the NHL in his future. I know he’s young. But he’s just got sooo many bad habits. He moves too much, his footwork is meh, he overreacts, his focus seems to wane. I don’t see him correcting all of that in the next year or so. Those bad habits are tough to correct!!! If we can send Reichel down, we can send Soder down. Will we? Who knows.
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Post by BigT on Mar 15, 2024 20:50:14 GMT -6
I like Jones. But I don’t think he’s a great pp guy. He shoots everything. And abandons the good puck movement. I seen on 3 pp tonight that he shoots at unoportune times. No traffic and from 60 feet out. Just stupid selfish hockey!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 15, 2024 20:50:30 GMT -6
AA looking good for just his second game back after a long rehab.
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Post by BigT on Mar 15, 2024 20:54:16 GMT -6
Byfield has really come along nicely. Good for him. Many rules him a bust. But he’s looking every part a 2nd overall. Soderblom better save his duckets, I just can’t see the NHL in his future. I know he’s young. But he’s just got sooo many bad habits. He moves too much, his footwork is meh, he overreacts, his focus seems to wane. I don’t see him correcting all of that in the next year or so. Those bad habits are tough to correct!!! If we can send Reichel down, we can send Soder down. Will we? Who knows. I’m not expecting wins every night. But I do like a competitive team. This is awful. 3 of the goals he gave up he was over sliding. No focus. He may be the worst tendy in the whole league. Plus Tinordi, Megna and about 4-5 others need to go!!!
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 15, 2024 20:59:47 GMT -6
I like Jones. But I don’t think he’s a great pp guy. He shoots everything. And abandons the good puck movement. I seen on 3 pp tonight that he shoots at unoportune times. No traffic and from 60 feet out. Just stupid selfish hockey!!! So...Duncan Keith on the PP? Nah, Keith used to hold onto the puck until shooting and passing lanes closed.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 15, 2024 21:06:34 GMT -6
Well, that was excremental.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 15, 2024 23:31:28 GMT -6
Pang mentions how positionally sound and well coached Slaggert is. They’ll coach that out of him soon enough. As I watched Slaggert fly off the bench and start hitting the gas I thought 5 more game and that should be out of his system.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 15, 2024 23:33:33 GMT -6
Bloody awful game I dont think anyone was in there right spots the first 8min and no one could win a puck battle
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Post by B-A-Hawk on Mar 16, 2024 4:54:39 GMT -6
Byfield has really come along nicely. Good for him. Many rules him a bust. But he’s looking every part a 2nd overall. Soderblom better save his duckets, I just can’t see the NHL in his future. I know he’s young. But he’s just got sooo many bad habits. He moves too much, his footwork is meh, he overreacts, his focus seems to wane. I don’t see him correcting all of that in the next year or so. Those bad habits are tough to correct!!! If we can send Reichel down, we can send Soder down. Will we? Who knows. watching the post game interviews, Luke said he didn't think the goal s were Soders fault, the goalie change was to give a boost, but who knows, he might not have wanted to deflate Soder, idk,
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Post by tincup on Mar 16, 2024 8:15:53 GMT -6
If we can send Reichel down, we can send Soder down. Will we? Who knows. watching the post game interviews, Luke said he didn't think the goal s were Soders fault, the goalie change was to give a boost, but who knows, he might not have wanted to deflate Soder, idk, I don’t think those goals were all his fault. The Hawks didn’t show up to play and were their usual selves when it came down to positioning and effort that first period.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 16, 2024 9:18:28 GMT -6
If we can send Reichel down, we can send Soder down. Will we? Who knows. watching the post game interviews, Luke said he didn't think the goal s were Soders fault, the goalie change was to give a boost, but who knows, he might not have wanted to deflate Soder, idk, Even if they weren't his fault, he's riding a .877 Sv% on the year and has not gotten objectively better. In fact, only Raanta is objectively worse. Given that this year we're not going for anything and Mrazek needs some breaks, it's like an exercise in futility keeping Soder up. We know he can't be relied upon. Might as well see what some of the other prospects can do; it's not like they can be much worse...
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Post by hsbob on Mar 16, 2024 10:42:32 GMT -6
I like Jones. But I don’t think he’s a great pp guy. He shoots everything. And abandons the good puck movement. I seen on 3 pp tonight that he shoots at unoportune times. No traffic and from 60 feet out. Just stupid selfish hockey!!! So...Duncan Keith on the PP? Nah, Keith used to hold onto the puck until shooting and passing lanes closed. Keith was never a prolific goal scorer but he did have 30 PP tallies and he produced more than his share of 5 on 5 offense his entire career. I don't get the need to constantly ridicule one of the best D-men of his era.........you make him sound like a bum!
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 16, 2024 11:30:11 GMT -6
So...Duncan Keith on the PP? Nah, Keith used to hold onto the puck until shooting and passing lanes closed. Keith was never a prolific goal scorer but he did have 30 PP tallies and he produced more than his share of 5 on 5 offense his entire career. I don't get the need to constantly ridicule one of the best D-men of his era.........you make him sound like a bum! To me Keith was the best PP QB we had since #24.
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 16, 2024 11:32:20 GMT -6
I didn't get to see the game last night, but how did Slaggert look?
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 16, 2024 12:04:51 GMT -6
So...Duncan Keith on the PP? Nah, Keith used to hold onto the puck until shooting and passing lanes closed. Keith was never a prolific goal scorer but he did have 30 PP tallies and he produced more than his share of 5 on 5 offense his entire career. I don't get the need to constantly ridicule one of the best D-men of his era.........you make him sound like a bum! My recollection of Keith and his shot was that he constantly missed the net. It was almost a given that Foley would end his sentence describing a shot by Keith with these words: "and he missed the net." As far as this game was concerned, reality finally set in. It is just too bad that they got the two wins, altho it is kinda a fun thing to see. I am still of the opinion that the real purpose of this season is to finish dead last to get the max opportunity to draft #1. I know many disagree, but that is my opinion and I'm stickin' to it.
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Post by tincup on Mar 16, 2024 12:36:06 GMT -6
I didn't get to see the game last night, but how did Slaggert look? Ten minutes, couple of hits, good skater. Wasn’t really a great game to be in for your first NHL game, I’m thinking having L.A. for your initial introduction to pro hockey was eye opening. They have speed and structure and completely owned the ice. . Pang did mention he knew how to position himself so that alone was pretty unusual. Next game he should be more acclimated.
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Post by tincup on Mar 16, 2024 12:47:21 GMT -6
Keith was never a prolific goal scorer but he did have 30 PP tallies and he produced more than his share of 5 on 5 offense his entire career. I don't get the need to constantly ridicule one of the best D-men of his era.........you make him sound like a bum! To me Keith was the best PP QB we had since #24. Points wise, Wilson was by far the best PP guy the Hawks have had. Chelios is #2 followed by Bob Murray and then Keith. Where Keith excelled was that he had a greater % of his points come at even strength, about 30% came via the PP. . Wilson was about 40% and Chelios was slightly over 50%.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 16, 2024 17:10:18 GMT -6
Keith was one of, if not the, best D man we ever had. That being said his play on the PP, especially later on, wasnt indicative of the rest of his play.
For one, Leddy was better at bringing the puck in and distributing it on the PP. For another my point still stands about Keith: he'd hold onto the puck too long and the lanes would close with one of a few things happening: right into the shins of the opposition, missing the net, or missing the pass.
That's not indicative of his overall game, keep that in mind. It's like saying Kane had issues defensively; it doesn't take away from all of the great stuff he did for us.
Granted, two things Jones should look at Keith's highlight reels on the PP are:
Keeping the puck in at the blue line.
Getting back when the play gets behind him and try to make it hard for the opposition to score shorthanded.
Credit where credit is due; and that's why Keith was a 2-way D-man and Jones is not.
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Post by tincup on Mar 16, 2024 22:28:28 GMT -6
Keith was one of, if not the, best D man we ever had. That being said his play on the PP, especially later on, wasnt indicative of the rest of his play. For one, Leddy was better at bringing the puck in and distributing it on the PP. For another my point still stands about Keith: he'd hold onto the puck too long and the lanes would close with one of a few things happening: right into the shins of the opposition, missing the net, or missing the pass. That's not indicative of his overall game, keep that in mind. It's like saying Kane had issues defensively; it doesn't take away from all of the great stuff he did for us. Granted, two things Jones should look at Keith's highlight reels on the PP are: Keeping the puck in at the blue line. Getting back when the play gets behind him and try to make it hard for the opposition to score shorthanded. Credit where credit is due; and that's why Keith was a 2-way D-man and Jones is not. Can’t forget about Seabrook, third in Hawk history with 38 ppg’s, behind the tandem of Wilson (80) and Murray (48). Seabrook actually had a better PP points ratio than Keith per 60 minutes.
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Post by tincup on Mar 16, 2024 22:28:58 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Mar 17, 2024 8:04:42 GMT -6
Keith was never a prolific goal scorer but he did have 30 PP tallies and he produced more than his share of 5 on 5 offense his entire career. I don't get the need to constantly ridicule one of the best D-men of his era.........you make him sound like a bum! My recollection of Keith and his shot was that he constantly missed the net. It was almost a given that Foley would end his sentence describing a shot by Keith with these words: "and he missed the net." As far as this game was concerned, reality finally set in. It is just too bad that they got the two wins, altho it is kinda a fun thing to see. I am still of the opinion that the real purpose of this season is to finish dead last to get the max opportunity to draft #1. I know many disagree, but that is my opinion and I'm stickin' to it. Do you have any fond recollections of the cup era?
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