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Post by tincup on Mar 26, 2024 22:46:40 GMT -6
If Slaggert has enough game to stick he’ll soon become a fan favourite.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 26, 2024 23:20:26 GMT -6
Slaggert reminds me of Hagel mostly just the way he looks but also how he plays. Daughter said the same thing as we were walking to the car. Dont think he has the offensive upside of Hagel but has the rest. The first of many young guys that will be pulling this team into the fight!
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Post by tincup on Mar 26, 2024 23:29:31 GMT -6
Spreading it around…
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 26, 2024 23:33:40 GMT -6
Well good win felt bad for Landon think mom and dad were in attendance. 4 & 72 look real good together Maz looked great. Dick back to making a difference.27 looks a little better he needs a goal like( insert Lord quote). Well on to Ottawa do I hear 3 ?
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Post by Tater on Mar 27, 2024 2:00:56 GMT -6
Man that was like a massage of the ears hearing Weidman tonight. I have no idea why Vosters wasn't there but I hope it's permanent. It was great to hear a knowledgeable fan call the game for a change. Vosters should be forced to do radio for a year or more to learn how to call a game instead of just saying the players name that has the puck.
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Post by ukhawk on Mar 27, 2024 3:04:49 GMT -6
I get his frustration, but yeah. He can't do it all by himself. I don’t know why they can’t just give 98 and 23 a steady linemate. #27 and leave him there
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 27, 2024 4:27:58 GMT -6
I don’t know why they can’t just give 98 and 23 a steady linemate. #27 and leave him there No way, 98 and 23 need someone gritty, that's why Foligno works so well on that line, but I'd like to see Slaggert there.
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Post by BigT on Mar 27, 2024 6:31:54 GMT -6
It seems to me that Seth and Bedard are almost in competition with each other. Seth shoots everything he can. It’s like he looks to not pass to Bedard. Especially on the PP. I love Seth. But I hope he starts looking more to the kid that will lead the league in scoring!!! I think Bedard is too far above the circle, Jones has the better opportunity for a shot. If Bedard moves in closer the defense would come out to him. Open up the other side for Kurashev My questioning of Jones is he’s a traditional pp guy. Where as Bedard does things most wouldn’t think of. Jones and Bedard pretty much collide every time they’re out there. I don’t think Jones is a good fit. Sure vs bad teams or teams like Calgary who have flown the white flag, Jones shit will work. But we need a top notch pp. I believe from here on out try Korchinski. He got massive amounts of assists in the OHL, and that’s what we need. Is more of a playmaker. Bedard has rarely used his shot. And he’s lethal from far out. If jones is shooting every other touch. Bedard won’t be effective. It’s either Jones gets 13 goals a year or Bedard gets 45. I’d rather Bedard and KK getting 55 assists a year and 4 goals!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 27, 2024 9:30:22 GMT -6
myself, i'm glad they didn't challenge. i thought there wasn't enough to overturn the goal.
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Post by tincup on Mar 27, 2024 10:06:08 GMT -6
myself, i'm glad they didn't challenge. i thought there wasn't enough to overturn the goal. I agree. The Flames player was tussling with Kaiser in front, the interference was too nebulous to call at that point. Mrazek definitely wanted the shutout or maybe he has a shutout clause in his contract but giving them a free PP would have been dangerous.
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Post by Granada on Mar 27, 2024 10:13:21 GMT -6
Man that was like a massage of the ears hearing Weidman tonight. I have no idea why Vosters wasn't there but I hope it's permanent. It was great to hear a knowledgeable fan call the game for a change. Vosters should be forced to do radio for a year or more to learn how to call a game instead of just saying the players name that has the puck. Man you can say that again Tater. I'm still pissed that the org just didn't do the logical thing and bring Wiedeman and Troy to TV full time; that wasn't just a missed opportunity, it was pure idiocy. Yeah I hope Vosters is on a permanent vacation. What was up with the organ? It played perfectly fine for the Canadian anthem, but once that ended, it craps out at the precise time the US anthem is supposed to begin? Just seemed weird, kinda makes you wonder if they just play it through the PA or something, but anyways. Donato -- I really want to like this guy (had a great game last game and was duly rewarded), but plays like missing the pass to Kurashev for a breakaway where he overshot him...I'd say that shouldn't happen at this level in general, but especially the top six. I still like him, but he seems to have these moments often. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.)
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Post by B-A-Hawk on Mar 27, 2024 10:20:40 GMT -6
I think pickle is the real deal, he is constantly improving, as far as Donato, I think he deserved a shot, but it wasn't there, at least for this game, id vote experiment over, but he has been playing better lately on the lower lines, At this time of year,it probably doesn't matter to try different things, but I'm a Foligno on that line fan, chemistry was there
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Post by Granada on Mar 27, 2024 10:41:11 GMT -6
I think pickle is the real deal, he is constantly improving, as far as Donato, I think he deserved a shot, but it wasn't there, at least for this game, id vote experiment over, but he has been playing better lately on the lower lines, At this time of year,it probably doesn't matter to try different things, but I'm a Foligno on that line fan, chemistry was there I wouldn't mind seeing Slaggert on the 1st, just to see what he's got. Like you said, it's not like they got anything to lose at this point.
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Post by tincup on Mar 27, 2024 10:48:27 GMT -6
No way, 98 and 23 need someone gritty, that's why Foligno works so well on that line, but I'd like to see Slaggert there. What did Athanasiou do wrong that he became the low ice fourth line player again? He looked fast and engaged when he came back. He’s hardly the prototypical fourth liner so what happened? He had a good rapport with Kurashev and Reichel last year and since Bedard is far better than Reichel why not give him a shot? His speed gets him on the forecheck quick and since the other two are both good at TKA’s that could create turnovers. He’s here for another year, so find a place to play him that takes best advantage of his abilities.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 27, 2024 10:59:02 GMT -6
Decently played, I'm thinking putting Foligno back to the first line, seemed to have better chemistry Didn’t seem to be a lot of chemistry there tonight. Bedard had the only shots from that line, he was 0-8 on FO’s and the line itself was 0-11. So they spent a lot of time chasing. Since they aren’t very effective in their own end and can get bottled up pretty easily without possession they waste most of their energy trying to bust out on nights like this. Agreed. It's like the 1st line was not just chasing, but trying to force things. It just wasn't their night...but we had Big Dickenson energy to make up for it. I'm hoping it was just an off-night. I think Bedard is too far above the circle, Jones has the better opportunity for a shot. If Bedard moves in closer the defense would come out to him. Open up the other side for Kurashev My questioning of Jones is he’s a traditional pp guy. Where as Bedard does things most wouldn’t think of. Jones and Bedard pretty much collide every time they’re out there. I don’t think Jones is a good fit. Sure vs bad teams or teams like Calgary who have flown the white flag, Jones shit will work. But we need a top notch pp. I believe from here on out try Korchinski. He got massive amounts of assists in the OHL, and that’s what we need. Is more of a playmaker. Bedard has rarely used his shot. And he’s lethal from far out. If jones is shooting every other touch. Bedard won’t be effective. It’s either Jones gets 13 goals a year or Bedard gets 45. I’d rather Bedard and KK getting 55 assists a year and 4 goals!!! Agreed, even though Jones did finally pot it while everyone else couldn't finish. Much like Kane, I think the #1 PP has to go through Bedard. Jones seems to be competing with him for being that anchor. I think better things would happen having Bedard as leading the #1PP and Jones as leading the #2 PP, and keeping with Bedard's unit being unconventional and Jones being more standard. We just have to make sure that someone on each of the units knows how to play in the backend when the puck gets past the blueline. Man that was like a massage of the ears hearing Weidman tonight. I have no idea why Vosters wasn't there but I hope it's permanent. It was great to hear a knowledgeable fan call the game for a change. Vosters should be forced to do radio for a year or more to learn how to call a game instead of just saying the players name that has the puck. Man you can say that again Tater. I'm still pissed that the org just didn't do the logical thing and bring Wiedeman and Troy to TV full time; that wasn't just a missed opportunity, it was pure idiocy. Yeah I hope Vosters is on a permanent vacation. What was up with the organ? It played perfectly fine for the Canadian anthem, but once that ended, it craps out at the precise time the US anthem is supposed to begin? Just seemed weird, kinda makes you wonder if they just play it through the PA or something, but anyways. Donato -- I really want to like this guy (had a great game last game and was duly rewarded), but plays like missing the pass to Kurashev for a breakaway where he overshot him...I'd say that shouldn't happen at this level in general, but especially the top six. I still like him, but he seems to have these moments often. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) Yeah, Vosters has a long way to go. Weiderman was music to my ears. I hope Vosters was taking notes on how to call a game. I think Donato is like a lot of guys on the team; forced to play at a higher level than they should be slotted just because we really don't have better options. He's serviceable, but in reality just a guy like Kopecky. He's not shooting the team in the foot but should be moved down or out as better players arrive. Vlassic has looked awesome this year, and is the biggest pleasant surprise to the roster; I don't think Mitchell ever got close to what Vlassic is doing. He had promise but never showed he was even in consideration to be the guy in the backend like Vlassic has. We'll see next season, but I haven't seem much of any faltering by Vlassic this season no matter who he's with.
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Post by Tater on Mar 27, 2024 11:13:50 GMT -6
5 minutes into the game, my wife said: "you can close your eyes and still know what's going on". She does not like Vosters either.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 27, 2024 12:12:59 GMT -6
5 minutes into the game, my wife said: "you can close your eyes and still know what's going on". She does not like Vosters either. Before 09 I listened to almost every game on the radio, then when I saw the highlights it was almost how I imagined. Can't do that with Vosters.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Mar 27, 2024 12:44:35 GMT -6
As much as I enjoyed the game, the Hawks' performance was still wanting. In a way, they got fortunate that they got a very long PP right off the bat and were able to score. They were still not able to spend any time in the Flames' zone during five-on-five play and managed to score on a few break aways. That's not a recipe for success. As others have pointed out, Foligno needs to be back on the first to create some semblance of the top line.
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 27, 2024 12:48:37 GMT -6
These 2 game winning streaks could get addictive.
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 27, 2024 13:33:09 GMT -6
Slaggert reminds me of Hagel mostly just the way he looks but also how he plays. There’s a resemblance isn’t there, plus the grinning attitude and full on motor. Might not ever become that sort of scorer but he’s got the drive and enthusiasm for the NHL. i'm not sure hagel was expected then to score what hagel scores now. so maybe there's hope. yes...i know the below is a tad premature but why not? he wasn't far off a 4 point night against calgary.
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Post by guest on Mar 27, 2024 15:29:56 GMT -6
Man that was like a massage of the ears hearing Weidman tonight. I have no idea why Vosters wasn't there but I hope it's permanent. It was great to hear a knowledgeable fan call the game for a change. Vosters should be forced to do radio for a year or more to learn how to call a game instead of just saying the players name that has the puck. Man you can say that again Tater. I'm still pissed that the org just didn't do the logical thing and bring Wiedeman and Troy to TV full time; that wasn't just a missed opportunity, it was pure idiocy. Yeah I hope Vosters is on a permanent vacation. What was up with the organ? It played perfectly fine for the Canadian anthem, but once that ended, it craps out at the precise time the US anthem is supposed to begin? Just seemed weird, kinda makes you wonder if they just play it through the PA or something, but anyways. Donato -- I really want to like this guy (had a great game last game and was duly rewarded), but plays like missing the pass to Kurashev for a breakaway where he overshot him...I'd say that shouldn't happen at this level in general, but especially the top six. I still like him, but he seems to have these moments often. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) Unfortunately Vosters will be back. Here is what he wrote on his Twitter page:
Hi, just wanted you to know I will not be calling tonights Blackhawks game. I'm at the NHL offices in NYC for a dress rehearsal of our animation game on April 6. Can't wait for you to see it. Panger and the great John Wiedeman have you covered tonight. Talk to you from Ottawa
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Post by Granada on Mar 28, 2024 6:32:26 GMT -6
Man you can say that again Tater. I'm still pissed that the org just didn't do the logical thing and bring Wiedeman and Troy to TV full time; that wasn't just a missed opportunity, it was pure idiocy. Yeah I hope Vosters is on a permanent vacation. What was up with the organ? It played perfectly fine for the Canadian anthem, but once that ended, it craps out at the precise time the US anthem is supposed to begin? Just seemed weird, kinda makes you wonder if they just play it through the PA or something, but anyways. Donato -- I really want to like this guy (had a great game last game and was duly rewarded), but plays like missing the pass to Kurashev for a breakaway where he overshot him...I'd say that shouldn't happen at this level in general, but especially the top six. I still like him, but he seems to have these moments often. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) Unfortunately Vosters will be back. Here is what he wrote on his Twitter page:
Hi, just wanted you to know I will not be calling tonights Blackhawks game. I'm at the NHL offices in NYC for a dress rehearsal of our animation game on April 6. Can't wait for you to see it. Panger and the great John Wiedeman have you covered tonight. Talk to you from Ottawa
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 28, 2024 9:54:47 GMT -6
As much as I enjoyed the game, the Hawks' performance was still wanting. In a way, they got fortunate that they got a very long PP right off the bat and were able to score. They were still not able to spend any time in the Flames' zone during five-on-five play and managed to score on a few break aways. That's not a recipe for success. As others have pointed out, Foligno needs to be back on the first to create some semblance of the top line. Agreed. I think much of the performance will come as better personnel get cycled in as prospects develop and dead weight gets jettisoned (and hopefully that happens!). Continuing with the 2006 parallels, that roster was bleak as well but was slowly built upon. Man you can say that again Tater. I'm still pissed that the org just didn't do the logical thing and bring Wiedeman and Troy to TV full time; that wasn't just a missed opportunity, it was pure idiocy. Yeah I hope Vosters is on a permanent vacation. What was up with the organ? It played perfectly fine for the Canadian anthem, but once that ended, it craps out at the precise time the US anthem is supposed to begin? Just seemed weird, kinda makes you wonder if they just play it through the PA or something, but anyways. Donato -- I really want to like this guy (had a great game last game and was duly rewarded), but plays like missing the pass to Kurashev for a breakaway where he overshot him...I'd say that shouldn't happen at this level in general, but especially the top six. I still like him, but he seems to have these moments often. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) Unfortunately Vosters will be back. Here is what he wrote on his Twitter page:
Hi, just wanted you to know I will not be calling tonights Blackhawks game. I'm at the NHL offices in NYC for a dress rehearsal of our animation game on April 6. Can't wait for you to see it. Panger and the great John Wiedeman have you covered tonight. Talk to you from Ottawa
At least Vosters acknowledged greatness. Here's hoping he took notes.
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Post by 2old4this on Mar 28, 2024 9:57:56 GMT -6
Man, some of you guys are STILL hedging your bets on Vlassic. What does it take to turn you into believers??? Aside from Bedard, he is my fave Blackhawk, and has been since I first saw him in training camp.
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Post by Tater on Mar 28, 2024 10:41:34 GMT -6
Man, some of you guys are STILL hedging your bets on Vlassic. What does it take to turn you into believers??? Aside from Bedard, he is my fave Blackhawk, and has been since I first saw him in training camp. Not me, I'm all in on the guy. And he even seems to be adding some snarl to his game!
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Post by Granada on Mar 28, 2024 12:42:41 GMT -6
Man, some of you guys are STILL hedging your bets on Vlassic. What does it take to turn you into believers??? Aside from Bedard, he is my fave Blackhawk, and has been since I first saw him in training camp. Who's doing that? Everybody's pretty much raving about him, understandably.
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Post by 2old4this on Mar 28, 2024 15:49:13 GMT -6
Man, some of you guys are STILL hedging your bets on Vlassic. What does it take to turn you into believers??? Aside from Bedard, he is my fave Blackhawk, and has been since I first saw him in training camp. Who's doing that? Everybody's pretty much raving about him, understandably. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) There are several people who quoted you and I just glanced at them, thinking it was multiple examples. However, it was you, lol. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, THE BET Vlasic -- I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) THE HEDGE. In any event, You can find examples of this type on many threads in the past few weeks. However, I admit that I am perhaps overly sensitive to doubt concerning Vlassic's skills. I"ve been preaching about him since I first noticed him in training camp, stickhandling around 3-4 defenders. Cheers.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 28, 2024 16:21:59 GMT -6
Who's doing that? Everybody's pretty much raving about him, understandably. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) There are several people who quoted you and I just glanced at them, thinking it was multiple examples. However, it was you, lol. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, THE BET Vlasic -- I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) THE HEDGE. In any event, You can find examples of this type on many threads in the past few weeks. However, I admit that I am perhaps overly sensitive to doubt concerning Vlassic's skills. I"ve been preaching about him since I first noticed him in training camp, stickhandling around 3-4 defenders. Cheers. Vlasic is a beast, when he was drafted he was a gangly 6'6" 198lbs, he's now in the 220s. When Stu Grimson filled in for Pang he said Vlasic was 6'7". Even his highlights from his rookie year showed his potential, his agility was impressive plus he was playing a smart shut down style with great outlet passing. When he finished his last season in college and ended the season in Chicago he played with Seth his top speed really improved. But he quickly realized the guys in the NHL are much stronger and he struggled a bit at the end. He added weight, played in all situations in Rockford for a season and now he's a complete 2way dman. Vlasic got me 0.8pts for my fantasy league team this game, 2 hits and six blocked shots. He's just over 0.5 for the season. Those hits were big and he played with a lot of confidence.
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Post by Granada on Mar 29, 2024 7:03:40 GMT -6
Who's doing that? Everybody's pretty much raving about him, understandably. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) There are several people who quoted you and I just glanced at them, thinking it was multiple examples. However, it was you, lol. Vlasic -- what a game by him. This kid's the real deal, THE BET Vlasic -- I just hope he can keep it up and he isn't a mirage (see Ian Mitchell, etc.) THE HEDGE. In any event, You can find examples of this type on many threads in the past few weeks. However, I admit that I am perhaps overly sensitive to doubt concerning Vlassic's skills. I"ve been preaching about him since I first noticed him in training camp, stickhandling around 3-4 defenders. Cheers. Oh okay, so you over-reacted to my post. Got it. I've loved Vlasic so far. I was just saying, I hope he keeps it up. And I haven't seen one example of that here yet, but okay. Yeah, cheers. Lol.
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 29, 2024 8:51:54 GMT -6
Man, some of you guys are STILL hedging your bets on Vlassic. What does it take to turn you into believers??? Aside from Bedard, he is my fave Blackhawk, and has been since I first saw him in training camp. To be fair, many here have been watching the 'hawks and hockey for a long time. A significant amount of players in their 1st full season look like the real deal, then once the league figures them out they peter off (a.k.a Sophomore slump), and not all of them recover close to what they showed in their freshman year. Guys get hyped up. Their freshman performance promises the stars but the rest of their career delivers the sewers. Sergei Samsonov anyone? Michael Frolik? Even though Frolik wasn't bad, he started out looking like he's 1st line material and wound up as a career 3rd liner. This is Vlassic's first full year as a 'hawk, and yeah, he's kicking ass and not bothering to take names. He's alleviated my worry about KD's regime moving forward on not having a Hjammer-like stay-at-home defenseman (and yes, I am aware and acknowledge that he was a Bowman pick). He's easily the best defenseman on the squad at this point and in no way, shape, or form looks like a rookie. In Vlassic's defense as well, I don't see much of his game that could be exploited. He doesn't seem to pinch too far deep that his footspeed is an issue getting back (*cough*JONES*cough*) His positioning is sound and rarely is out of position. He's got some good stuff in the brainpan. Like you, I think he is the real deal, but I get why people might be leery; we've been burned before on someone promised to be all that, they show us a glimpse of having a spark, but it quickly gets extinguished. I personally think you have to give guys 2-3 full seasons before you can really tell if they are as good as their rookie hype.
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