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Post by Tater on Jan 9, 2021 12:01:40 GMT -6
I guess Crawford has retired.
"Goaltender Corey Crawford, 36, has officially announced his retirement from the National Hockey League following 10 NHL seasons and 488 regular-season games.
The goaltender signed a two-year contract with the Devils in free agency. It was announced yesterday in a statement by the team that he would be taking an indefinite leave of absence due to personal reasons. And today he announced his retirement.
Crawford released the following statement:
"I have been fortunate to have had a long career playing professional hockey for a living. I wanted to continue my career, but believe I've given all I can to the game of hockey, and I have decided that it is time to retire. I would like to thank the New Jersey Devils organization for understanding and supporting my decision. I would like to thank the Chicago Blackhawks organization for giving me the chance to live my childhood dream. I am proud to have been part of winning two Stanley Cups in Chicago. Thank you to all of my teammates and coaches throughout the years. Also, thank you to the fans who make this great game what it is. I am happy and excited to move on to the next chapter of my life with my family."
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Post by davebrau on Jan 9, 2021 12:25:50 GMT -6
aw man, i wonder if he decided he just didnt want to play with another team...
hard to leave almost 8 shmill on the table, hope everything is ok
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Post by jacksalmon on Jan 9, 2021 12:27:10 GMT -6
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Post by Tater on Jan 9, 2021 12:38:18 GMT -6
Hoping he has a long healthy retirement. Thanks for your time and accomplishments with the Hawks Crow!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 13:11:49 GMT -6
aw man, i wonder if he decided he just didnt want to play with another team...
hard to leave almost 8 shmill on the table, hope everything is ok
heres to one of the most underappreciated Hawks goalie of all time.... I don't think that's it. Something is wrong, physically or mentally. Hope it's nothing too serious. |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 9, 2021 13:20:03 GMT -6
Since Crawford was OUTSTANDING and healthy last time I saw him play,I'll assume he's stayed that way over the offseason. He obviously wanted to stay and SCAMBO obviously couldn't wait to kick him to the curb in a classless manor befitting the classless Wirtz organization. SCREW Scam Blowman........should be him leaving the game.
The 'lucky sperm club' have this team on the road to oblivion and it's hard to see so many lapping it up!
FIVE DOWN.....FOURTY FOUR MORE TO GO!
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Post by hsbob on Jan 9, 2021 13:21:03 GMT -6
Hoping he has a long healthy retirement. Thanks for your time and accomplishments with the Hawks Crow! The 2nd and 3rd cups don't happen without Crawford......period! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jan 9, 2021 13:43:47 GMT -6
I guess Crawford has retired.
"Goaltender Corey Crawford, 36, has officially announced his retirement from the National Hockey League following 10 NHL seasons and 488 regular-season games.
The goaltender signed a two-year contract with the Devils in free agency. It was announced yesterday in a statement by the team that he would be taking an indefinite leave of absence due to personal reasons. And today he announced his retirement.
Crawford released the following statement:
"I have been fortunate to have had a long career playing professional hockey for a living. I wanted to continue my career, but believe I've given all I can to the game of hockey, and I have decided that it is time to retire. I would like to thank the New Jersey Devils organization for understanding and supporting my decision. I would like to thank the Chicago Blackhawks organization for giving me the chance to live my childhood dream. I am proud to have been part of winning two Stanley Cups in Chicago. Thank you to all of my teammates and coaches throughout the years. Also, thank you to the fans who make this great game what it is. I am happy and excited to move on to the next chapter of my life with my family."
I just posted that yesterday that I thought his family or him had 2nd thoughts about playing again. Glad he's going out healthy. and his family is OK. We thank him for the wonderful 8-9 years he had with the Hawks. |
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Post by gigecj on Jan 9, 2021 14:37:00 GMT -6
CC went out like a champion. The game he stole like a thief in the night against Vegas was one of the all-time great performances.
He probably should have won the Connie in 2013.
He should be the first GT to come to mind when thinking about who best represents a "positional" goaltender.
He is definitely a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer.
My prayer is that he doesn't have life-threatening concussive issues.
Thank you Corey for the two Cups especially!
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Post by hsbob on Jan 9, 2021 15:01:53 GMT -6
CC went out like a champion. The game he stole like a thief in the night against Vegas was one of the all-time great performances. He probably should have won the Connie in 2013. He should be the first GT to come to mind when thinking about who best represents a "positional" goaltender. He is definitely a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer. My prayer is that he doesn't have life-threatening concussive issues. Thank you Corey for the two Cups especially! Saw my Doc who's also a good bud along with being a 59yro ex smoker last Monday. He told me he's contracted Covid twice over the last six months,basically asymptomatic the first time but sick as hell and spent a night in the hospital the 2nd time and for anyone's information.........no anti-bodies the first time but a shitload the second time. He said a reinfection can be much worse and maybe Crawford's concerned with getting hit by the runaway freight train again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 15:13:09 GMT -6
CC went out like a champion. The game he stole like a thief in the night against Vegas was one of the all-time great performances. He probably should have won the Connie in 2013. He should be the first GT to come to mind when thinking about who best represents a "positional" goaltender. He is definitely a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer. My prayer is that he doesn't have life-threatening concussive issues. Thank you Corey for the two Cups especially! Not trying to start anything here just honestly asking. You really think he’s “definitely” a first-ballot HOFer? I’m not sure he’s even a HOFer. I’ve often compared him to Chris Osgood and Osgood is not a HOFer. Neither player won a vezina. Osgood won 1 more Stanley cup. He made 1 All-Star team to Crawford’s zero. He played 17 seasons to Crawford’s 10 and is 12th all-time in wins. Just offering up a comparison. With that said I’d have zero issue if the Blackhawks decided to retire his number which is something I probably don’t say 5-6 years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 15:15:20 GMT -6
CC went out like a champion. The game he stole like a thief in the night against Vegas was one of the all-time great performances. He probably should have won the Connie in 2013. He should be the first GT to come to mind when thinking about who best represents a "positional" goaltender. He is definitely a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer. My prayer is that he doesn't have life-threatening concussive issues. Thank you Corey for the two Cups especially! Saw my Doc who's also a good bud along with being a 59yro ex smoker last Monday. He told me he's contracted Covid twice over the last six months,basically asymptomatic the first time but sick as hell and spent a night in the hospital the 2nd time and for anyone's information.........no anti-bodies the first time but a shitload the second time. He said a reinfection can be much worse and maybe Crawford's concerned with getting hit by the runaway freight train again. This virus is so F’d up. Some studies say people get 8 months of safety from antibodies after first infection while others are examples of getting no protection from first infection and get it again later and the second is really bad as you said. I’m no doctor or scientist but it amazes me how different it is for different people of similar ages or health. How for so many it does absolutely nothing to them, they don’t even know they had it. And for others, sadly, they perish within days of showing first symptoms. |
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Post by gigecj on Jan 9, 2021 15:23:46 GMT -6
Saw my Doc who's also a good bud along with being a 59yro ex smoker last Monday. He told me he's contracted Covid twice over the last six months,basically asymptomatic the first time but sick as hell and spent a night in the hospital the 2nd time and for anyone's information.........no anti-bodies the first time but a shitload the second time. He said a reinfection can be much worse and maybe Crawford's concerned with getting hit by the runaway freight train again. This virus is so F’d up. Some studies say people get 8 months of safety from antibodies after first infection while others are examples of getting no protection from first infection and get it again later and the second is really bad as you said. I’m no doctor or scientist but it amazes me how different it is for different people of similar ages or health. How for so many it does absolutely nothing to them, they don’t even know they had it. And for others, sadly, they perish within days of showing first symptoms. |
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Post by gigecj on Jan 9, 2021 15:28:17 GMT -6
I'm not going to argue with you regarding CC. It's just my opinion.
Anyway, regarding the virus and "other" political issues, these are historic times to say the least. The kiddos I teach will be telling their grandchildren about it. Heck, their grandchildren will likely ask them about it!
All I will share is this: the entire world is watching us to see if our form of democracy shall prevail which will include the manner in which this virus was attacked.
I remain in fervent prayer for this country.
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Post by davebrau on Jan 9, 2021 15:31:57 GMT -6
This virus is so F’d up. Some studies say people get 8 months of safety from antibodies after first infection while others are examples of getting no protection from first infection and get it again later and the second is really bad as you said. I’m no doctor or scientist but it amazes me how different it is for different people of similar ages or health. How for so many it does absolutely nothing to them, they don’t even know they had it. And for others, sadly, they perish within days of showing first symptoms. scares the heck out of me Merp.. like you say, some dont even know they have it, and others die from it...
i know of 9 people myself that have succumbed to it, thankfully no immediate family, but i have lost some friends to it.. its ridiculous..
hopefully the vaccines work, and people get it...
anyway, thanks again Crow!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 9, 2021 15:45:43 GMT -6
not to mention 14 wins against 5 losses in playoff elimination games. the man brought his game when it mattered the most. also not to mention the best SC celebratory speech ever. not sure if he's a HOFer or not but i'd love to see his jersey in the rafters one fine day.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 16:34:17 GMT -6
Let's assume 50 gets raised to the rafters, that's 5 from this era. If Hossa warrants it, that's 6.
Special, special era/decade for any franchise in any sport
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Post by vadarx on Jan 9, 2021 17:40:20 GMT -6
man, what a bummer about Crow.....
I hope he is well or getting well and I look forward to his day of honor at the UC.
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Post by vadarx on Jan 9, 2021 17:48:49 GMT -6
as I said in another thread, what a bummer. I would say at this point that perhaps Stan and Co were trying to tell him something by not re-signing him. maybe it took him a while to wrap his head around it. dunno.....
regardless, I hope he gets himself well and I look forward to Corey Crawford night at the UC (or at least I'll be watching on the tube), hopefully sometime this coming season!
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Post by vadarx on Jan 9, 2021 17:54:26 GMT -6
Let's assume 50 gets raised to the rafters, that's 5 from this era. If Hossa warrants it, that's 6. Special, special era/decade for any franchise in any sport my understanding was, other than Mags, you had to be a HOF'er to get your number up in the rafters. if that is so, I would say Crow and Seabs are likely not ending up with their numbers retired. that being said, I think that the org would be smart to change that rule up for both players. obviously 19, 88, 2, and 81 are going up (imo). I think Crow deserves to be up there with Hall and Esposito. Seabs deserves to go up with dickhea....err, Chelios, whenever that happens just to appease the fans against honoring the former #7. regardless, with the way the team is trending, who doesn't think all 6 end up retired just to have a game or two to sell tickets for (once that is a thing again)? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 19:53:52 GMT -6
Let's assume 50 gets raised to the rafters, that's 5 from this era. If Hossa warrants it, that's 6. Special, special era/decade for any franchise in any sport my understanding was, other than Mags, you had to be a HOF'er to get your number up in the rafters. if that is so, I would say Crow and Seabs are likely not ending up with their numbers retired. that being said, I think that the org would be smart to change that rule up for both players. obviously 19, 88, 2, and 81 are going up (imo). I think Crow deserves to be up there with Hall and Esposito. Seabs deserves to go up with dickhea....err, Chelios, whenever that happens just to appease the fans against honoring the former #7. regardless, with the way the team is trending, who doesn't think all 6 end up retired just to have a game or two to sell tickets for (once that is a thing again)? I think you're right as the criteria is usually pretty tough so teams don't run out of numbers lol. But it would be nice for 7 and 50 and as you said 7 can be a duo like Mags/Pilote is. I feel like even if they do all 6 combined with the 6 up there currently that's 12 leaving 88 numbers for a 21-man active roster should still be good for at least a while lol It's more of an issue in the NFL because positions are limited to certain numbers, for instance linebackers are limited to the 50s so the Bears are out of options going forward |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jan 9, 2021 21:20:04 GMT -6
I was concerned when word came out that he was taking indefinite leave from the team, but relieved when I read the statement he put out which I read to mean it wasn't health related but more along the lines of losing his zest for the game. Maybe he wouldn't have retired if he had taken the 1-year deal Stan offered him to stay with the Hawks - we'll probably never know.
One thing I do know though - Stan made the right decision to move on from Crow because of the new direction the Hawks are taking - Crow is too old to be the future goalie. I thought Stan made a classy move offering Crow a 1-year deal when he knew he wasn't going to be part of the new team. Crow wanted more so Stan held the line which was the correct move to make with an eye to rebuilding the team.
Hopefully Crow doesn't harbor any hard feeling and would be amenable to coming back for a Corey Crawford night at the U.C. - if and when there are fans at the game ever again. Hopefully "50" gets raised to the rafters too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 23:11:36 GMT -6
I was concerned when word came out that he was taking indefinite leave from the team, but relieved when I read the statement he put out which I read to mean it wasn't health related but more along the lines of losing his zest for the game. Maybe he wouldn't have retired if he had taken the 1-year deal Stan offered him to stay with the Hawks - we'll probably never know. One thing I do know though - Stan made the right decision to move on from Crow because of the new direction the Hawks are taking - Crow is too old to be the future goalie. I thought Stan made a classy move offering Crow a 1-year deal when he knew he wasn't going to be part of the new team. Crow wanted more so Stan held the line which was the correct move to make with an eye to rebuilding the team. Hopefully Crow doesn't harbor any hard feeling and would be amenable to coming back for a Corey Crawford night at the U.C. - if and when there are fans at the game ever again. Hopefully "50" gets raised to the rafters too. ya know, now that you mention the contact thing I am wondering if Crow didn't decide the direction of the franchise more than Bowman If Crow takes the 1-year deal I don't think Stan shifts into this rebuild mode now. I think he somehow tries to get this team into the playoffs again for this season but when Crow turned it down he shifted directions, especially considering the remaining goaltending options |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 10, 2021 1:23:08 GMT -6
CC went out like a champion. The game he stole like a thief in the night against Vegas was one of the all-time great performances. He probably should have won the Connie in 2013. He should be the first GT to come to mind when thinking about who best represents a "positional" goaltender. He is definitely a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer. My prayer is that he doesn't have life-threatening concussive issues. Thank you Corey for the two Cups especially! I’ve often compared him to Chris Osgood and Osgood is not a HOFer. Neither player won a vezina. Osgood won 1 more Stanley cup. He made 1 All-Star team to Crawford’s zero. He played 17 seasons to Crawford’s 10 and is 12th all-time in wins. crow has 52 p/o wins and 2 cups. to further your comparisons, mike vernon has 77 p/o wins and 2 cups, osgood has 74 and 3 and andy moog has 68 and 3. none are in the HOF. if crow had've won the connie in '13 he'd have a much better shot at it. only 36 goalies have made the HOF as well, its a pretty prestigious club. btw, osgood ('96 and '08) and crow ('15 and '17) played in 2 ASGs each. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 2:32:37 GMT -6
I’ve often compared him to Chris Osgood and Osgood is not a HOFer. Neither player won a vezina. Osgood won 1 more Stanley cup. He made 1 All-Star team to Crawford’s zero. He played 17 seasons to Crawford’s 10 and is 12th all-time in wins. crow has 52 p/o wins and 2 cups. to further your comparisons, mike vernon has 77 p/o wins and 2 cups, osgood has 74 and 3 and andy moog has 68 and 3. none are in the HOF. if crow had've won the connie in '13 he'd have a much better shot at it. only 36 goalies have made the HOF as well, its a pretty prestigious club. btw, osgood ('96 and '08) and crow ('15 and '17) played in 2 ASGs each. thanks for the further comparisons I honestly wasn't trying to detract from crow's career/accomplishments with the Blackhawks as many here might think considering my prior stance on him If there is a Blackhawks Hall of Fame he'd be in that 100% but as you said the HHOF is a pretty small group that takes a lot to break into. As for the All-Star game stuff, I went by hockey-reference site so their numbers are off. I suspected something was wrong cause I thought I remembered Crawford in 1 ASG so thanks for correcting that |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 10, 2021 9:01:23 GMT -6
Who needs Crawford when you have goaltending like ours? It's a new era in Chicago.....one of losing and despair.
Crawford's last NHL win will go down as a 48 save clinic......against a real good team......in the postseason. The stark contrast to a performance like that we'll see in net will be a shock to the system going forward.
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Post by hsbob on Jan 10, 2021 9:31:54 GMT -6
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jan 10, 2021 13:05:17 GMT -6
Would Crawford have been part of the rebuilt team - could he be the goalie of the future? The answer is "no". The team is either going to do what they stated - go in a new direction with youth - or they're not. You can't have it both ways. That decision may not be popular but if it is in fact true - then moving on from Crawford was the right move to make. I don't see how this is even debatable.
Stan offered Crawford a 1-year deal and Crawford rejected it. Case closed. Moving on.
The fact the Hawks have a poor collection of goalies for the 2021 season is a totally separate issue than whether Crawford is here or not - BECAUSE - Crawford will not be here in years to come when the Hawks rebuild/retool is more complete. It's better to sort out the goalies we have and if we find none of them are what we need then the due diligence of going through that process was done and we can move on from them and look for other goalies to sign and try out of to trade for.
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Post by BigT on Jan 10, 2021 23:14:19 GMT -6
Would Crawford have been part of the rebuilt team - could he be the goalie of the future? The answer is "no". The team is either going to do what they stated - go in a new direction with youth - or they're not. You can't have it both ways. That decision may not be popular but if it is in fact true - then moving on from Crawford was the right move to make. I don't see how this is even debatable. Stan offered Crawford a 1-year deal and Crawford rejected it. Case closed. Moving on. The fact the Hawks have a poor collection of goalies for the 2021 season is a totally separate issue than whether Crawford is here or not - BECAUSE - Crawford will not be here in years to come when the Hawks rebuild/retool is more complete. It's better to sort out the goalies we have and if we find none of them are what we need then the due diligence of going through that process was done and we can move on from them and look for other goalies to sign and try out of to trade for. I’m with you on the move on front. Nothing lasts forever and I feel it’s time to move on from everyone. I think the biggest mistake was letting Dach go elsewhere to play. If he was here and not injured, we could see if he is in fact the real deal and it would be much easier to move on from the Duo. But we won’t know now. I’m very hopeful that the Hawks have a couple years of tanking and get a stud Dman like Power. And then the year after select Shane Wright. Then the rebuild is in full swing and we have something to look forward too. So the goalies mean nothing right now. We can lose 4-3 or 5-4 and our guys can still score but lose. We will have something to look forward to. If this team doesn’t tank, it’s at least 10 years till they fade away and build her back up. And that’s not a championship team, that’s just being a competitive team!!! |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jan 11, 2021 11:09:45 GMT -6
Would Crawford have been part of the rebuilt team - could he be the goalie of the future? The answer is "no". The team is either going to do what they stated - go in a new direction with youth - or they're not. You can't have it both ways. That decision may not be popular but if it is in fact true - then moving on from Crawford was the right move to make. I don't see how this is even debatable. Stan offered Crawford a 1-year deal and Crawford rejected it. Case closed. Moving on. The fact the Hawks have a poor collection of goalies for the 2021 season is a totally separate issue than whether Crawford is here or not - BECAUSE - Crawford will not be here in years to come when the Hawks rebuild/retool is more complete. It's better to sort out the goalies we have and if we find none of them are what we need then the due diligence of going through that process was done and we can move on from them and look for other goalies to sign and try out of to trade for. I’m with you on the move on front. Nothing lasts forever and I feel it’s time to move on from everyone. I think the biggest mistake was letting Dach go elsewhere to play. If he was here and not injured, we could see if he is in fact the real deal and it would be much easier to move on from the Duo. But we won’t know now. I’m very hopeful that the Hawks have a couple years of tanking and get a stud Dman like Power. And then the year after select Shane Wright. Then the rebuild is in full swing and we have something to look forward too. So the goalies mean nothing right now. We can lose 4-3 or 5-4 and our guys can still score but lose. We will have something to look forward to. If this team doesn’t tank, it’s at least 10 years till they fade away and build her back up. And that’s not a championship team, that’s just being a competitive team!!! Yep, fans should want their team to be in only one of two states - either really good to win championships or really bad to rebuild as quickly as possible. The time spent between really good and really bad should be minimized as much as possible. Course, this is only true when the primary objective is to win championships, but can often be at cross purposes when the primary objective is to keep the arena filled to turn a profit. With the salary cap and economic realities it seems almost inevitable teams eventually fall into the middle ground and once there it is very difficult to get momentum back to either rising to very good status of falling far enough to very bad status - once you've stagnated to "middleville" you're probably going to be stuck there for quite a while. |
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