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Post by Granada on May 10, 2024 10:38:21 GMT -6
As I watched the Canes go down 3-0 last night, and remembering that currently Brindamour is in the last year of his deal with rumblings that extension talks are not going well, it got me thinking what he would look like behind the Hawks' bench. Don't get me wrong -- I don't hate Richardson -- but if I had to choose between the two, I'd take Brindamour. I know Richardson just signed a long term extension last season (I believe), but still. Brindamour is way more hands-on as a coach, has the right intensity. Sometimes I feel like Richardson is too sedated behind the bench.
I doubt it's the right time for such a move, but it made me remember the ouster of Savvy for Q. I can't help but wonder if Richardson will be the guy when this team is ready at the end of his current contract, and if he's not, and you have a perfect guy like Brindamour available now (potentially), what do you do?
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Post by Nikos on May 10, 2024 10:53:53 GMT -6
As I watched the Canes go down 3-0 last night, and remembering that currently Brindamour is in the last year of his deal with rumblings that extension talks are not going well, it got me thinking what he would look like behind the Hawks' bench. Don't get me wrong -- I don't hate Richardson -- but if I had to choose between the two, I'd take Brindamour. I know Richardson just signed a long term extension last season (I believe), but still. Brindamour is way more hands-on as a coach, has the right intensity. Sometimes I feel like Richardson is too sedated behind the bench. I doubt it's the right time for such a move, but it made me remember the ouster of Savvy for Q. I can't help but wonder if Richardson will be the guy when this team is ready at the end of his current contract, and if he's not, and you have a perfect guy like Brindamour available now (potentially), what do you do? I hear you on the potential Savy & Q possibility. Have top believe the Canes will do everything possible to keep him there. I do not believe it is coaching issue, more like a roster. Brindamour has gotten them to playoffs 6 or 7 years in a row. |
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Post by Granada on May 10, 2024 11:51:36 GMT -6
As I watched the Canes go down 3-0 last night, and remembering that currently Brindamour is in the last year of his deal with rumblings that extension talks are not going well, it got me thinking what he would look like behind the Hawks' bench. Don't get me wrong -- I don't hate Richardson -- but if I had to choose between the two, I'd take Brindamour. I know Richardson just signed a long term extension last season (I believe), but still. Brindamour is way more hands-on as a coach, has the right intensity. Sometimes I feel like Richardson is too sedated behind the bench. I doubt it's the right time for such a move, but it made me remember the ouster of Savvy for Q. I can't help but wonder if Richardson will be the guy when this team is ready at the end of his current contract, and if he's not, and you have a perfect guy like Brindamour available now (potentially), what do you do? I hear you on the potential Savy & Q possibility. Have top believe the Canes will do everything possible to keep him there. I do not believe it is coaching issue, more like a roster. Brindamour has gotten them to playoffs 6 or 7 years in a row. Absolutely, especially to the bolded. Yeah it's probably just wishful thinking on my part, I always loved Brindamour, even as a player. If the Canes let him walk, they'd be crazy. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 20, 2024 13:54:30 GMT -6
The CHGO guys talked about how Foligno sat down with Luke to talk about practice and praised Luke for being very approachable and willing to listen.
Sounds like he's evolving. He's not doing laps with them and having shorter practices but very up tempo. Plus a scrimmage on day one of camp, players love that.
Hopefully he grows with this team, unlike Savard. Although Q was needed at that time.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 3, 2024 6:34:03 GMT -6
idk if firing luke is the answer or not. if i had to bet i'd say he lasts the season.
anyways, i'd say it's too early but at times he's a bit too stoic behind the bench for my liking.
that doesn't mean i want someone like torts chucking benches on the ice but still...maybe that's not the way he rolls but i'd like to see some more fire out of luke.
but the real question i'd ask is if luke is canned, who's would be his replacement?
scratch derek king. kevin dean and derek plante both have pretty thin resumes.
they mentioned todd mclellan's name on the broadcast and i thought he could be a candidate but wtf do i know?
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Post by BigT on Nov 3, 2024 9:18:03 GMT -6
The CHGO guys talked about how Foligno sat down with Luke to talk about practice and praised Luke for being very approachable and willing to listen. Sounds like he's evolving. He's not doing laps with them and having shorter practices but very up tempo. Plus a scrimmage on day one of camp, players love that. Hopefully he grows with this team, unlike Savard. Although Q was needed at that time. I personally don’t think he will come out of the rebuild. He’s probably a decent coach and it’s a vet team. I think he’s here for the year, and when the Hawks get a top 3 pick again. He’ll have no choice but to fire the coach. And if the kids don’t come ready from Rockford. Anders will be sent with him. I doubt Luke goes before the year is out. But he definitely isn’t the guy to come out of this!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 3, 2024 10:37:07 GMT -6
idk if firing luke is the answer or not. if i had to bet i'd say he lasts the season. anyways, i'd say it's too early but at times he's a bit too stoic behind the bench for my liking. that doesn't mean i want someone like torts chucking benches on the ice but still...maybe that's not the way he rolls but i'd like to see some more fire out of luke. but the real question i'd ask is if luke is canned, who's would be his replacement?scratch derek king. kevin dean and derek plante both have pretty thin resumes. they mentioned todd mclellan's name on the broadcast and i thought he could be a candidate but wtf do i know? I believe it'll be whoever Danny decides it'll be to be honest. Maybe the young GM's a quick learner but he certainly doesn't have a lot of experience and there's only a few years of hockey experience above the GM level here. Danny was quoted as saying he hired a new CEO for his booze biz so he could pay more attention to his hockey team, and his being VERY involved in interviewing prospects before last summer's draft suggests he means it. Does the youngest owner/CEO in the league who answers to NO one accept the council of KD or Maciver? How much council can baseball lifer and President of Bus Ops 47yro Jaime Faulkner offer in this instance? Does the young GM get to pick HIS HC when the time comes,it'll be a massively important decision. Let's hope it's not a 'taking the game in a new direction','outside the box' type decision! |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 3, 2024 10:51:06 GMT -6
The CHGO guys talked about how Foligno sat down with Luke to talk about practice and praised Luke for being very approachable and willing to listen. Sounds like he's evolving. He's not doing laps with them and having shorter practices but very up tempo. Plus a scrimmage on day one of camp, players love that. Hopefully he grows with this team, unlike Savard. Although Q was needed at that time. I personally don’t think he will come out of the rebuild. He’s probably a decent coach and it’s a vet team. I think he’s here for the year, and when the Hawks get a top 3 pick again. He’ll have no choice but to fire the coach. And if the kids don’t come ready from Rockford. Anders will be sent with him. I doubt Luke goes before the year is out. But he definitely isn’t the guy to come out of this!!! I'm not sure if I recall a single HC who came-in at a team's beginning of a rebuild and was there at the end of it. As far as LR's performance so far..... The gutted team he inherited did what was expected his first year, what did he get from the 10M spent on Hall and Perry his 2nd and what has he gotten from the 15.5M spent on Hall,Berttuzi and Mikheyev so far this year? It's early and all three could still pick-up their play but the answer is 7 goals and 6 assists.......so far.......through 47 combined games. |
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Post by nighbor on Nov 3, 2024 11:55:20 GMT -6
The total rebuild is years away. I predict he will be extended by years end. It would be a great Christmas gift. Unfortunately the coach can no longer give the players a swift kick in the ass to get them to follow instructions.
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Post by tincup on Nov 3, 2024 12:39:41 GMT -6
idk if firing luke is the answer or not. if i had to bet i'd say he lasts the season. anyways, i'd say it's too early but at times he's a bit too stoic behind the bench for my liking. that doesn't mean i want someone like torts chucking benches on the ice but still...maybe that's not the way he rolls but i'd like to see some more fire out of luke. but the real question i'd ask is if luke is canned, who's would be his replacement? scratch derek king. kevin dean and derek plante both have pretty thin resumes. they mentioned todd mclellan's name on the broadcast and i thought he could be a candidate but wtf do i know? I suspect Richardson will be here for the year. He’s got the reputation as a player’s coach and he’s willing to delegate down and give his veterans the oversight for a lot of the responsibility in the room. Nobody better than Foligno right now to lead that group although there might be some bent noses. As those veterans play out their contracts you’ll maybe need another coach. Not everyone likes him or his style but if anyone is going to give you two good years it’s Gerry Gallant. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 3, 2024 18:44:56 GMT -6
idk if firing luke is the answer or not. if i had to bet i'd say he lasts the season. anyways, i'd say it's too early but at times he's a bit too stoic behind the bench for my liking. that doesn't mean i want someone like torts chucking benches on the ice but still...maybe that's not the way he rolls but i'd like to see some more fire out of luke. but the real question i'd ask is if luke is canned, who's would be his replacement? scratch derek king. kevin dean and derek plante both have pretty thin resumes. they mentioned todd mclellan's name on the broadcast and i thought he could be a candidate but wtf do i know? I suspect Richardson will be here for the year. He’s got the reputation as a player’s coach and he’s willing to delegate down and give his veterans the oversight for a lot of the responsibility in the room. Nobody better than Foligno right now to lead that group although there might be some bent noses. As those veterans play out their contracts you’ll maybe need another coach. Not everyone likes him or his style but if anyone is going to give you two good years it’s Gerry Gallant. i just don't see gallant being a KfC kind've coach. it'd be like the back street boys asking mick jagger if they wanted to join their boy band. : ) besides...i got a feeling the hawks management rely a lot on analytics and correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought gallant wasn't a fan. |
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Post by tincup on Nov 3, 2024 19:09:50 GMT -6
I suspect Richardson will be here for the year. He’s got the reputation as a player’s coach and he’s willing to delegate down and give his veterans the oversight for a lot of the responsibility in the room. Nobody better than Foligno right now to lead that group although there might be some bent noses. As those veterans play out their contracts you’ll maybe need another coach. Not everyone likes him or his style but if anyone is going to give you two good years it’s Gerry Gallant. i just don't see gallant being a KfC kind've coach. it'd be like the back street boys asking mick jagger if they wanted to join their boy band. : ) besides...i got a feeling the hawks management rely a lot on analytics and correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought gallant wasn't a fan. True. Gallant always rubs management eventually. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 4, 2024 9:34:57 GMT -6
If LR keeps the team digging for wins like he has a few games this year, he'll stay.
If they regress to playing partial periods, bring psychologically weak, and not holding the pkayers accountable, he heeds to go for the simple reason the the 'hawks cal ill-adford development of their youth in a country club atmosphere.
Besides, in my opinion LR is more of a Yawney than a Savard. I don't think he or the next coach will be here when yhe build is complete.
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Post by hawks27 on Nov 4, 2024 13:52:36 GMT -6
idk if firing luke is the answer or not. if i had to bet i'd say he lasts the season. anyways, i'd say it's too early but at times he's a bit too stoic behind the bench for my liking. that doesn't mean i want someone like torts chucking benches on the ice but still...maybe that's not the way he rolls but i'd like to see some more fire out of luke. but the real question i'd ask is if luke is canned, who's would be his replacement? scratch derek king. kevin dean and derek plante both have pretty thin resumes. they mentioned todd mclellan's name on the broadcast and i thought he could be a candidate but wtf do i know? I suspect Richardson will be here for the year. He’s got the reputation as a player’s coach and he’s willing to delegate down and give his veterans the oversight for a lot of the responsibility in the room. Nobody better than Foligno right now to lead that group although there might be some bent noses. As those veterans play out their contracts you’ll maybe need another coach. Not everyone likes him or his style but if anyone is going to give you two good years it’s Gerry Gallant. A friend of mine coached for one year with Gallant, and then asked to be assigned another position in the organization. I don't think Gallant is the right guy to coach the Blackhawks. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 4, 2024 16:43:38 GMT -6
If LR keeps the team digging for wins like he has a few games this year, he'll stay. If they regress to playing partial periods, bring psychologically weak, and not holding the pkayers accountable, he heeds to go for the simple reason the the 'hawks cal ill-adford development of their youth in a country club atmosphere. Besides, in my opinion LR is more of a Yawney than a Savard. I don't think he or the next coach will be here when yhe build is complete. considering this team is about 3 years from the playoffs you might be right |
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Post by tincup on Nov 4, 2024 23:10:58 GMT -6
I suspect Richardson will be here for the year. He’s got the reputation as a player’s coach and he’s willing to delegate down and give his veterans the oversight for a lot of the responsibility in the room. Nobody better than Foligno right now to lead that group although there might be some bent noses. As those veterans play out their contracts you’ll maybe need another coach. Not everyone likes him or his style but if anyone is going to give you two good years it’s Gerry Gallant. A friend of mine coached for one year with Gallant, and then asked to be assigned another position in the organization. I don't think Gallant is the right guy to coach the Blackhawks. Curious. What was the issue. I thought Gallant always had a reputation as a player coach, it was his issues with the people above him where the problems were. |
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Post by hawks27 on Nov 7, 2024 17:42:35 GMT -6
Probably was two strong personalities that couldn't agree on things. My friend had a history of lots of success at the head coaching position in college and the championship National Juniors team.
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Post by ukhawk on Nov 17, 2024 5:55:19 GMT -6
Needs to go. Only Vlasic has become better. What is really worrying is that our superstar does not look like a superstar, and is getting worse game by game - 1 SOG last night.
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Post by tincup on Nov 17, 2024 8:54:05 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Nov 17, 2024 10:05:56 GMT -6
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Post by BigT on Nov 17, 2024 10:10:07 GMT -6
My fear is that Luke is letting vets get away with more. And it’s probably rubbing the few younger the wrong way. He has to scratch someone every game regardless. Hall was supposed to have maintenance days. So him being scratched isn’t really a knock on him. But you’ll get Bertuzzi absolutely mailing it in, and he gets to play.
We have too many floaters. This happens with massive turnover. I see more coming next year. A lot more next year. This environment is not looking very promising. Bedard looks non interested. He needs kids on this team to keep him motivated. He’s not gonna be best friends with the Big Rig or TJ or any other vet. Sure they’ll hang out and do things. But it’s not like they can go to a bar or strip club or anything like that. Bedard needs real players, and younger.
I don’t believe this is on Luke right now. The chemistry is terrible, and they don’t have much hope elsewhere at this time. Like, it’s not like 3-4 forwards are waiting for a shot. I don’t think one young forward prospect could make the jump right now. So they gotta find some youth here soon!!!
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Post by mvr on Nov 17, 2024 10:17:10 GMT -6
Richardson really has only one job to do right now.
He has six young players total on his roster - Bedard, Reichel, Kaiser, Allan, Vlasic and Soderblum. Every decision made should be based on developing these kids and making them better.
None of the other players will be around in three years. The wins and losses right now should not matter.
Are we seeing improvements with the kids? Clearly, Reichel is showing signs especially on the fourth line, though his game remains inconsistent. Soderblum has re-emerged as a potential long term answer in net. There are times that Kaiser and Allan look like future core pieces, but they need to be playing every day to improve. Certainly, Vlasic is already there.
The real issue right now is Bedard. His game has taken a step back. He is slumping and pressing. Are the coaches doing everything they can to help him? What else can they do?
My feeling is - they can't really do much other than be patient and let him go through the growing pains. He is playing against the opponent's best every night, and there is very little support scoring coming from the second and third lines. Still, I would like to see Bedard's line remain consistent for at least a 15-20 game stretch. Leave him with Foligno and Teravainen, and give them a chance to develop some chemistry.
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Post by BigT on Nov 17, 2024 10:30:22 GMT -6
Richardson really has only one job to do right now. He has six young players total on his roster - Bedard, Reichel, Kaiser, Allan, Vlasic and Soderblum. Every decision made should be based on developing these kids and making them better. None of the other players will be around in three years. The wins and losses right now should not matter. Are we seeing improvements with the kids? Clearly, Reichel is showing signs especially on the fourth line, though his game remains inconsistent. Soderblum has re-emerged as a potential long term answer in net. There are times that Kaiser and Allan look like future core pieces, but they need to be playing every day to improve. Certainly, Vlasic is already there. The real issue right now is Bedard. His game has taken a step back. He is slumping and pressing. Are the coaches doing everything they can to help him? What else can they do? My feeling is - they can't really do much other than be patient and let him go through the growing pains. He is playing against the opponent's best every night, and there is very little support scoring coming from the second and third lines. Still, I would like to see Bedard's line remain consistent for at least a 15-20 game stretch. Leave him with Foligno and Teravainen, and give them a chance to develop some chemistry. Maybe it would be better to put Bedard on the 2nd line? Maybe he can’t handle the leagues best right now. Maybe he’d have way more success at a lesser role. Let Turbo-Bertuzzi and Dicky be your top line. Then Bedard Kurashev and Rychel. Like you said. Develop the kids. Then let those 3 be your top PP. I think that’s more realistic!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 17, 2024 10:33:00 GMT -6
Richardson really has only one job to do right now. He has six young players total on his roster - Bedard, Reichel, Kaiser, Allan, Vlasic and Soderblum. Every decision made should be based on developing these kids and making them better. None of the other players will be around in three years. The wins and losses right now should not matter. Are we seeing improvements with the kids? Clearly, Reichel is showing signs especially on the fourth line, though his game remains inconsistent. Soderblum has re-emerged as a potential long term answer in net. There are times that Kaiser and Allan look like future core pieces, but they need to be playing every day to improve. Certainly, Vlasic is already there. The real issue right now is Bedard. His game has taken a step back. He is slumping and pressing. Are the coaches doing everything they can to help him? What else can they do? My feeling is - they can't really do much other than be patient and let him go through the growing pains. He is playing against the opponent's best every night, and there is very little support scoring coming from the second and third lines. Still, I would like to see Bedard's line remain consistent for at least a 15-20 game stretch. Leave him with Foligno and Teravainen, and give them a chance to develop some chemistry. pretty please, with sugar on top, to those last two sentences... let the kid play with the same guys for a while. |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 17, 2024 10:36:20 GMT -6
Richardson really has only one job to do right now. He has six young players total on his roster - Bedard, Reichel, Kaiser, Allan, Vlasic and Soderblum. Every decision made should be based on developing these kids and making them better. None of the other players will be around in three years. The wins and losses right now should not matter. Are we seeing improvements with the kids? Clearly, Reichel is showing signs especially on the fourth line, though his game remains inconsistent. Soderblum has re-emerged as a potential long term answer in net. There are times that Kaiser and Allan look like future core pieces, but they need to be playing every day to improve. Certainly, Vlasic is already there. The real issue right now is Bedard. His game has taken a step back. He is slumping and pressing. Are the coaches doing everything they can to help him? What else can they do? My feeling is - they can't really do much other than be patient and let him go through the growing pains. He is playing against the opponent's best every night, and there is very little support scoring coming from the second and third lines. Still, I would like to see Bedard's line remain consistent for at least a 15-20 game stretch. Leave him with Foligno and Teravainen, and give them a chance to develop some chemistry. Maybe it would be better to put Bedard on the 2nd line? Maybe he can’t handle the leagues best right now. Maybe he’d have way more success at a lesser role. Let Turbo-Bertuzzi and Dicky be your top line. Then Bedard Kurashev and Rychel. Like you said. Develop the kids. Then let those 3 be your top PP. I think that’s more realistic!!! I think whatever line he is on is automatically the top line as far as other teams are concerned. we can chase matchups at home, but pretty tough on the road to keep 98 away from the opposition's top line/top defensive line. therein lies the problem. I think the main issue is he has no running mate out there (still). he needs a (young, fast) power forward on his line BADLY. |
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Post by tincup on Nov 17, 2024 11:26:18 GMT -6
Richardson really has only one job to do right now. He has six young players total on his roster - Bedard, Reichel, Kaiser, Allan, Vlasic and Soderblum. Every decision made should be based on developing these kids and making them better. None of the other players will be around in three years. The wins and losses right now should not matter. Are we seeing improvements with the kids? Clearly, Reichel is showing signs especially on the fourth line, though his game remains inconsistent. Soderblum has re-emerged as a potential long term answer in net. There are times that Kaiser and Allan look like future core pieces, but they need to be playing every day to improve. Certainly, Vlasic is already there. The real issue right now is Bedard. His game has taken a step back. He is slumping and pressing. Are the coaches doing everything they can to help him? What else can they do? My feeling is - they can't really do much other than be patient and let him go through the growing pains. He is playing against the opponent's best every night, and there is very little support scoring coming from the second and third lines. Still, I would like to see Bedard's line remain consistent for at least a 15-20 game stretch. Leave him with Foligno and Teravainen, and give them a chance to develop some chemistry. Maybe it would be better to put Bedard on the 2nd line? Maybe he can’t handle the leagues best right now. Maybe he’d have way more success at a lesser role. Let Turbo-Bertuzzi and Dicky be your top line. Then Bedard Kurashev and Rychel. Like you said. Develop the kids. Then let those 3 be your top PP. I think that’s more realistic!!! The only problem is that any line Bedard centres becomes the de facto “first” line and the other teams will treat it that way. Bedard has lined up with just about every player on the team at this point, yet he’ll always attract the leagues best to play against him. oops…didn’t read Vadarx’s post above before posting this. You’d think I was an Ivy League prof blatantly plagiarizing like that.  |
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Post by mvr on Nov 17, 2024 11:49:16 GMT -6
He is going to be checked hard every night. There is nobody else for the opponent to worry about. The key then is to make sure his line has the right pieces. Bedard needs a finisher to drive his scoring numbers, and he needs a physical, defensively aware player to cover for his mistakes. Preferably both players can help with faceoffs.
Foligno should be anchored on that line right now because there is nobody else capable of playing a two-way game. Teravainen is the only other forward with legit scoring upside. These have to be the guys. Reichel is too green. Kurashev is a mess right now. None of the others have the defensive awareness or the physical game to help the first line.
I do not understand why it is so difficult for the coaching staff to provide Bedard with some consistency.
Leave Reichel where he is on that fourth line with Smith and Maroon. Dickinson should be playing with Hall and Bertuzzi every night. The third line should be Donato with Kurashev and either Anderson or Mikheyev. Why is this so hard?
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 17, 2024 15:10:00 GMT -6
Richardson really has only one job to do right now. He has six young players total on his roster - Bedard, Reichel, Kaiser, Allan, Vlasic and Soderblum. Every decision made should be based on developing these kids and making them better. None of the other players will be around in three years. The wins and losses right now should not matter. Are we seeing improvements with the kids? Clearly, Reichel is showing signs especially on the fourth line, though his game remains inconsistent. Soderblum has re-emerged as a potential long term answer in net. There are times that Kaiser and Allan look like future core pieces, but they need to be playing every day to improve. Certainly, Vlasic is already there. The real issue right now is Bedard. His game has taken a step back. He is slumping and pressing. Are the coaches doing everything they can to help him? What else can they do? My feeling is - they can't really do much other than be patient and let him go through the growing pains. He is playing against the opponent's best every night, and there is very little support scoring coming from the second and third lines. Still, I would like to see Bedard's line remain consistent for at least a 15-20 game stretch. Leave him with Foligno and Teravainen, and give them a chance to develop some chemistry. Maybe it would be better to put Bedard on the 2nd line? Maybe he can’t handle the leagues best right now. Maybe he’d have way more success at a lesser role. Let Turbo-Bertuzzi and Dicky be your top line. Then Bedard Kurashev and Rychel. Like you said. Develop the kids. Then let those 3 be your top PP. I think that’s more realistic!!! He is not playing against teams top lines the Dick already is he is going up against teams 3rd line mostly |
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