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Post by hsbob on Oct 14, 2022 8:24:55 GMT -6
The team looks to be built for the purpose at hand,so no need for overaction to the L's to come but it was nice to see JT with some jump,too bad TJ didn't finish that sweet dish from the captain. A bit surprising to see only the three 'tomato cans' with less TOI than Johnny's 14:13. For the life O me,I don't get ownership's willingness to let Edzo walk,I'm not even his biggest fan but I do respect his knowledge and appreciate him. It just seems he coulda been the perfect,loyal face of the team after K&T leave. this is totally IMO but... it feels like when he wasn't given a job in hockey ops or made team prez, he decided maybe it was time to join his brother and son out west... or maybe the Wirtz's are just pinching pennies yet again... OR, perhaps he just wanted to get away from the stink of the Beach situation (which he was around the team A LOT during that time)... either way, it already sucks that he isn't the voice we hear on the local broadcast (almost) nightly... If the stench is on Edzo,how's it not on a guy who was in the room? Don't get me wrong,I'm sure like you,I blame neither Edzo nor Sharp for anything but that would have to cut both ways if it's still an issue. I just thought Edzo would be perfect for the team's transition,he could keep things a little interesting until the kids got here and then....who could gush about em better than Edzo? He was even a loyal soldier Wed night,he and Jones both went on and on about the young D-core and how getting vets C Jones and McCabe back would be welcomed?  The young/rebuilding Hawks was the team/league message but the young/rebuilding Hawks that'll matter ain't even here yet and with vet C Jones back in the line-up,23yro Roos was the extent of the 'young D-core' last night. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 14, 2022 8:58:28 GMT -6
Outcome pretty much as expected. Considering the huge talent differential I thought the Hawks did a reasonably good job overall. The whole league is going to have trouble with Avs. Last night, the Flames didn't seem to have too much trouble with the Avs. For awhile, the Avs had a sog total that looked like a Hawk total. The Avs sure didn't look like the same team that whacked the Hawks the night before. Can the Flames really be that good? Only one game into the season that was against the lowly Hawks, the Avs can't claim they were tired and fatigued. Maybe all is not that well in Avland. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 14, 2022 10:06:02 GMT -6
Outcome pretty much as expected. Considering the huge talent differential I thought the Hawks did a reasonably good job overall. The whole league is going to have trouble with Avs. Last night, the Flames didn't seem to have too much trouble with the Avs. For awhile, the Avs had a sog total that looked like a Hawk total. The Avs sure didn't look like the same team that whacked the Hawks the night before. Can the Flames really be that good? Only one game into the season that was against the lowly Hawks, the Avs can't claim they were tired and fatigued. Maybe all is not that well in Avland. The difference was Calgary has team speed to keep up with the AV's. The Hawks do not. Flames are not in a total rebuild so they actually talent. And they have had real coaching the last few years. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 14, 2022 11:34:07 GMT -6
Last night, the Flames didn't seem to have too much trouble with the Avs. For awhile, the Avs had a sog total that looked like a Hawk total. The Avs sure didn't look like the same team that whacked the Hawks the night before. Can the Flames really be that good? Only one game into the season that was against the lowly Hawks, the Avs can't claim they were tired and fatigued. Maybe all is not that well in Avland. The difference was Calgary has team speed to keep up with the AV's. The Hawks do not. Flames are not in a total rebuild so they actually talent. And they have had real coaching the last few years. You post good reasons for the Calgary win. It was just surprising to me how one-sided the game was. It was a dominating performance against an Av team that should have been motivated to show that they are more to reckoned with than just being capable of beating a sub-par AHL team in the opener. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 14, 2022 13:34:54 GMT -6
Outcome pretty much as expected. Considering the huge talent differential I thought the Hawks did a reasonably good job overall. The whole league is going to have trouble with Avs. Last night, the Flames didn't seem to have too much trouble with the Avs. For awhile, the Avs had a sog total that looked like a Hawk total. The Avs sure didn't look like the same team that whacked the Hawks the night before. Can the Flames really be that good? Only one game into the season that was against the lowly Hawks, the Avs can't claim they were tired and fatigued. Maybe all is not that well in Avland. The Avs played in Colorado the night before they played in Calgarys home opener, so yeah they can claim they were tired. But after it was 5-1 in the 3rd and the Avs only had 14 shots they woke up and made it 5-3 and almost had as many shots as Calgary in the end. Plus the Avs had their backup in net. They'll have their off nights, especially with teams trying to prove themselves versus the champs, and Calgary certainly did that. The Hawks losing 5-2 wasn't that bad considering the Avs were at home and had a lot of energy after the banner being raised. Plus Chicago had the highest turnover of any team, lost their top goal scorer, and have a new coach, so yeah 5-2 wasn't a bad loss. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 14, 2022 14:34:56 GMT -6
Last night, the Flames didn't seem to have too much trouble with the Avs. For awhile, the Avs had a sog total that looked like a Hawk total. The Avs sure didn't look like the same team that whacked the Hawks the night before. Can the Flames really be that good? Only one game into the season that was against the lowly Hawks, the Avs can't claim they were tired and fatigued. Maybe all is not that well in Avland. The Avs played in Colorado the night before they played in Calgarys home opener, so yeah they can claim they were tired. But after it was 5-1 in the 3rd and the Avs only had 14 shots they woke up and made it 5-3 and almost had as many shots as Calgary in the end. Plus the Avs had their backup in net. They'll have their off nights, especially with teams trying to prove themselves versus the champs, and Calgary certainly did that. The Hawks losing 5-2 wasn't that bad considering the Avs were at home and had a lot of energy after the banner being raised. Plus Chicago had the highest turnover of any team, lost their top goal scorer, and have a new coach, so yeah 5-2 wasn't a bad loss. Besides their top scorer, they also have turned over the roster 10+ players for the 3rd time in 5 years. Never going to have a "team" with that much turnover. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 14, 2022 16:19:58 GMT -6
Last night, the Flames didn't seem to have too much trouble with the Avs. For awhile, the Avs had a sog total that looked like a Hawk total. The Avs sure didn't look like the same team that whacked the Hawks the night before. Can the Flames really be that good? Only one game into the season that was against the lowly Hawks, the Avs can't claim they were tired and fatigued. Maybe all is not that well in Avland. The Avs played in Colorado the night before they played in Calgarys home opener, so yeah they can claim they were tired. But after it was 5-1 in the 3rd and the Avs only had 14 shots they woke up and made it 5-3 and almost had as many shots as Calgary in the end. Plus the Avs had their backup in net. They'll have their off nights, especially with teams trying to prove themselves versus the champs, and Calgary certainly did that. The Hawks losing 5-2 wasn't that bad considering the Avs were at home and had a lot of energy after the banner being raised. Plus Chicago had the highest turnover of any team, lost their top goal scorer, and have a new coach, so yeah 5-2 wasn't a bad loss. I could say the only reason they caught up with the sog total was because the Flames just laid down so the Avs wouldn't have extra motivation to kill 'em the next time they played. It would be fun to see a really good team in Calgary. I loved the Flames back in the 85-86 season as they were the antidote to the Oilers whom I hated because they were so good. Dan Quinn, Al MacInnis, Joel Otto, Joe Mullen, Lanny McDonald et al-----they were a good bunch and beat the Oilers to advance to the Cup where they got whacked by the Canadiens. Steve Konroyd played for the Flames that year----yes, that Steve Konroyd. |
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Post by steamer on Oct 14, 2022 17:52:42 GMT -6
Joe Nieuwendyk - remember him? I agree as I always kind of liked them too. Not when they played the Hawks but I admired their team - physical and just tough to play against.
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 15, 2022 10:09:04 GMT -6
Joe Nieuwendyk - remember him? I agree as I always kind of liked them too. Not when they played the Hawks but I admired their team - physical and just tough to play against. I looked up his stats. He started with CGY the year after the season I mentioned when they beat the Oilers who were at their prime. Joe in his first four seasons with CGY scored 51, 51, 45 and 45 goals. Now, that's a start to one's career. Compare that to Kirby Dach's start. Poor Kirby, I hope his daddy's got a great big wheat farm that Kirby can work on in the next couple years when he be gone from the NHL. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 15, 2022 10:33:47 GMT -6
Joe Nieuwendyk - remember him? I agree as I always kind of liked them too. Not when they played the Hawks but I admired their team - physical and just tough to play against. I looked up his stats. He started with CGY the year after the season I mentioned when they beat the Oilers who were at their prime. Joe in his first four seasons with CGY scored 51, 51, 45 and 45 goals. Now, that's a start to one's career. Compare that to Kirby Dach's start. Poor Kirby, I hope his daddy's got a great big wheat farm that Kirby can work on in the next couple years when he be gone from the NHL. The Dachs dad owns a construction company and judging from their house he's doing very well. They live in a rich community just north of Edmonton. I started watching hockey in 84 when I was 7, my dad was a huge Flames fan so I watched them a lot and I loved watching big Joe. Their Cup win was fun to watch, Macinnis firing rockets from the point, Vernon with game savers and of course Lanny and that moustache. |
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Post by 2old4this on Oct 15, 2022 16:55:40 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Oct 15, 2022 19:32:07 GMT -6
what did I say?!? the suspense is killing me! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 18, 2022 21:29:45 GMT -6
Vlasic not playing? Hit by a puck in practice? this is possibly the reason. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 18, 2022 22:05:00 GMT -6
I looked up his stats. He started with CGY the year after the season I mentioned when they beat the Oilers who were at their prime. Joe in his first four seasons with CGY scored 51, 51, 45 and 45 goals. Now, that's a start to one's career. Compare that to Kirby Dach's start. Poor Kirby, I hope his daddy's got a great big wheat farm that Kirby can work on in the next couple years when he be gone from the NHL. The Dachs dad owns a construction company and judging from their house he's doing very well. They live in a rich community just north of Edmonton. I started watching hockey in 84 when I was 7, my dad was a huge Flames fan so I watched them a lot and I loved watching big Joe. Their Cup win was fun to watch, Macinnis firing rockets from the point, Vernon with game savers and of course Lanny and that moustache. I loved Al MacInnis' slap shot from the point. They really were rockets. |
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The young/rebuilding Hawks was the team/league message but the young/rebuilding Hawks that'll matter ain't even here yet and with vet C Jones back in the line-up,23yro Roos was the extent of the 'young D-core' last night. 
