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Post by tincup on Oct 30, 2024 8:05:56 GMT -6
Good article, thanks for posting it.
Like someone in the comments said…the first 10 games last year to go 4-6 against the… “Panthers Aves Leafs Bruins (x2) VGK (x2) All teams with legit Cup aspirations last year. The other 3 teams were a Penguins team that should have at least made the playoffs and then the mediocre Canadians and Yotes.” So ostensibly a better team this year but better results last year against better competition. I think that shows how good Mrazek and Soderblom were those first few games.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Oct 30, 2024 10:13:51 GMT -6
Good article, thanks for posting it.
Like someone in the comments said…the first 10 games last year to go 4-6 against the… “Panthers Aves Leafs Bruins (x2) VGK (x2) All teams with legit Cup aspirations last year. The other 3 teams were a Penguins team that should have at least made the playoffs and then the mediocre Canadians and Yotes.” So ostensibly a better team this year but better results last year against better competition. I think that shows how good Mrazek and Soderblom were those first few games. There's just not enough statistical sample here. Every game is different, and even good teams have bad nights. After 40 games there's a sufficient sample to make a comparison. The eye test is probably more accurate at this juncture; and to mine, unerudite caveman hockey fan eye, the Hawks do look much better. Specifically, their five-on-five play is noticeably better.
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Post by tincup on Oct 30, 2024 10:42:38 GMT -6
Like someone in the comments said…the first 10 games last year to go 4-6 against the… “Panthers Aves Leafs Bruins (x2) VGK (x2) All teams with legit Cup aspirations last year. The other 3 teams were a Penguins team that should have at least made the playoffs and then the mediocre Canadians and Yotes.” So ostensibly a better team this year but better results last year against better competition. I think that shows how good Mrazek and Soderblom were those first few games. There's just not enough statistical sample here. Every game is different, and even good teams have bad nights. After 40 games there's a sufficient sample to make a comparison. The eye test is probably more accurate at this juncture; and to mine, unerudite caveman hockey fan eye, the Hawks do look much better. Specifically, their five-on-five play is noticeably better. I agree. The eye test shows positive improvement at this point. A quick Look back shows Mrazek, and Soderblom for his first couple of starts at least, were a huge leveller in those first ten. . Plus, a fair bit of scoring from players no longer here, TJ, Perry etc., or getting hurt, AA and Hall. Like the article said, only three wins in the next twenty and I don’t see that happening as badly again this year.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 30, 2024 11:50:50 GMT -6
There's just not enough statistical sample here. Every game is different, and even good teams have bad nights. After 40 games there's a sufficient sample to make a comparison. The eye test is probably more accurate at this juncture; and to mine, unerudite caveman hockey fan eye, the Hawks do look much better. Specifically, their five-on-five play is noticeably better. I agree. The eye test shows positive improvement at this point. A quick Look back shows Mrazek, and Soderblom for his first couple of starts at least, were a huge leveller in those first ten. . Plus, a fair bit of scoring from players no longer here, TJ, Perry etc., or getting hurt, AA and Hall. Like the article said, only three wins in the next twenty and I don’t see that happening as badly again this year. 3 wins in that 20gm stretch was painful to watch, the injuries showed their lack of depth, so it's doubtful they'll do that again this season. They should have 4 more wins during this stretch of 20gms. Bonus if they're. 500 or higher. Hopefully there's no more scandals or long term injuries. But if there's injuries like last season they won't need to sign guys like Megna or Sanford. Lots of young guys in Rockford waiting for their chance.
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Post by tincup on Oct 30, 2024 14:46:27 GMT -6
Not trying to reinvent the wheel after a win is a good idea…although if they busted up Hall and Bertuzzi I wouldn’t complain.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Oct 30, 2024 16:21:50 GMT -6
Not trying to reinvent the wheel after a win is a good idea…although if they busted up Hall and Bertuzzi I wouldn’t complain. The thing is, Hall, Foligno, Bert line is the only one that's not clicking. I'd be mildly interested in swapping Foligno and Reichel.
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Post by tincup on Oct 30, 2024 17:46:22 GMT -6
Not trying to reinvent the wheel after a win is a good idea…although if they busted up Hall and Bertuzzi I wouldn’t complain. The thing is, Hall, Foligno, Bert line is the only one that's not clicking. I'd be mildly interested in swapping Foligno and Reichel. Nothing has clicked with that line since day one, no matter who played centre and Kurashev had to take the fall but it’s obvious there’s little chemistry between Hall, who can still skate and bull his way down the wing, and Bertuzzi, who is slow and a garbage collector type scorer. I’d rather see someone like Donato get rewarded for his work and Bertuzzi get dropped down until he finds his game. Reichel, meanwhile, looks more comfortable with his new linemates and less responsibility on his shoulders.
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Post by Tater on Oct 31, 2024 2:41:27 GMT -6
The thing is, Hall, Foligno, Bert line is the only one that's not clicking. I'd be mildly interested in swapping Foligno and Reichel. Nothing has clicked with that line since day one, no matter who played centre and Kurashev had to take the fall but it’s obvious there’s little chemistry between Hall, who can still skate and bull his way down the wing, and Bertuzzi, who is slow and a garbage collector type scorer. I’d rather see someone like Donato get rewarded for his work and Bertuzzi get dropped down until he finds his game. Reichel, meanwhile, looks more comfortable with his new linemates and less responsibility on his shoulders. Well said, I totally agree.
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Post by LordKOTL on Oct 31, 2024 14:10:46 GMT -6
I agree. The eye test shows positive improvement at this point. A quick Look back shows Mrazek, and Soderblom for his first couple of starts at least, were a huge leveller in those first ten. . Plus, a fair bit of scoring from players no longer here, TJ, Perry etc., or getting hurt, AA and Hall. Like the article said, only three wins in the next twenty and I don’t see that happening as badly again this year. 3 wins in that 20gm stretch was painful to watch, the injuries showed their lack of depth, so it's doubtful they'll do that again this season. They should have 4 more wins during this stretch of 20gms. Bonus if they're. 500 or higher. Hopefully there's no more scandals or long term injuries. But if there's injuries like last season they won't need to sign guys like Megna or Sanford. Lots of young guys in Rockford waiting for their chance. Agreed. Let's hope KfC sees it the same.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Oct 31, 2024 15:03:50 GMT -6
The thing is, Hall, Foligno, Bert line is the only one that's not clicking. I'd be mildly interested in swapping Foligno and Reichel. Nothing has clicked with that line since day one, no matter who played centre and Kurashev had to take the fall but it’s obvious there’s little chemistry between Hall, who can still skate and bull his way down the wing, and Bertuzzi, who is slow and a garbage collector type scorer. I’d rather see someone like Donato get rewarded for his work and Bertuzzi get dropped down until he finds his game. Reichel, meanwhile, looks more comfortable with his new linemates and less responsibility on his shoulders. Given that Donato is our highest goal scorer, I am all in favor of giving him some time on the second line.
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 31, 2024 18:04:55 GMT -6
useless trivia o' the day...
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 1, 2024 19:14:38 GMT -6
: )
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 7, 2024 17:37:33 GMT -6
'tis true.
weird number because last year the team with the least was seattle at 4.84 and chicago finished 26th at 8.50.
i wonder why the numbers are so much higher across the board this year compared to last?
takeaways this year we're a respectable 7th at 5.96 takeaways/60. last season we were a league 2nd at 8.60.
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Post by tincup on Nov 8, 2024 19:36:07 GMT -6
Miss this guy, but if I followed all of the trades correctly he turned into Moore, Boisvert and Vanacker?
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Post by tincup on Nov 9, 2024 9:21:48 GMT -6
Is this a Crash Davis/Nuke LaLoosh type of relationship. I have to admit the Maroon signing makes more sense now.
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Post by tincup on Nov 9, 2024 14:01:22 GMT -6
Whatever…
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 9, 2024 16:58:17 GMT -6
I'd have to say by game 20 they should have it figured out who Bedards line mates are.
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Post by tincup on Nov 9, 2024 20:20:30 GMT -6
I'd have to say by game 20 they should have it figured out who Bedards line mates are. . Every combo except the one that was most successful at scoring last year. Foligno, Bedard and Kurashev.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 10, 2024 6:29:20 GMT -6
every shift. worth a watch to see some of the behind-the-scenes stuff.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 10, 2024 13:02:08 GMT -6
Well with the Hawks awful Hogs awful. Production department definitely MVP of this organization!
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Post by tincup on Nov 13, 2024 22:14:19 GMT -6
Aiming for 30? He’s only done that once in his career when he had his MVP season in Jersey. I think 20 might be a reach at this point in his career.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 17, 2024 1:41:32 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 17, 2024 1:44:39 GMT -6
i doubt i'm the only one here that thinks this, but bertuzzi is my biggest disappointment of the young season and it isn't even close.
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Post by tincup on Nov 18, 2024 10:46:07 GMT -6
There’s a lot to read between the lines here. Coach implying he wasn’t dealt a winning hand, but coach also appears to suffer from OCD and can’t stop scrubbing the lines. Bad roster, mishandled roster? Both? It could also be said that his “low event” system pretty much stifles the natural instincts of half his team or the incorrect assets were acquired to play such a system.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 18, 2024 11:17:11 GMT -6
There’s a lot to read between the lines here. Coach implying he wasn’t dealt a winning hand, but coach also appears to suffer from OCD and can’t stop scrubbing the lines. Bad roster, mishandled roster? Both? It could also be said that his “low event” system pretty much stifles the natural instincts of half his team or the incorrect assets were acquired to play such a system. I don't understand why he doesn't try Bertuzzi and Teravainen with Bedard. It took a long time for him to realize Hall and Bertuzzi don't work, Hall is all about the rush and usually tries shooting off the rush, Bertuzzi needs guys that'll set up in the zone so he can hang out around the net. Luke needs to take responsibility for this mess, Davidson gave him better pieces compared to last season, it's on the coach to know how to use them.
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Post by tincup on Nov 18, 2024 12:05:31 GMT -6
Well here’s a new one…reminds me of when I tried to solve a Rubik’s cube.
And just because Bedard is on it, that becomes the de facto first line? Hopefully by burying him the other team is fooled and he can find his footing again.
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Post by BigT on Nov 18, 2024 13:41:22 GMT -6
Davidson may have to step in here and let his coach know that something needs to be found out fairly quickly. Everyone was saying the same things in pre season. It’s like he didn’t care. And it’s rolled over into the season. He’s gotta find something and stick with it. Hopefully Foligno is letting him know this is fugazi’d. And maybe Foligno lets KD know that this is getting stupider by the minute!!!
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Post by tincup on Nov 18, 2024 15:17:19 GMT -6
Davidson may have to step in here and let his coach know that something needs to be found out fairly quickly. Everyone was saying the same things in pre season. It’s like he didn’t care. And it’s rolled over into the season. He’s gotta find something and stick with it. Hopefully Foligno is letting him know this is fugazi’d. And maybe Foligno lets KD know that this is getting stupider by the minute!!! Or is the coach pushing back against the GM for the what he’s been dealt? No matter how much you shuffle the deck it’s still a losing hand.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 18, 2024 17:33:55 GMT -6
Well here’s a new one…reminds me of when I tried to solve a Rubik’s cube. And just because Bedard is on it, that becomes the de facto first line? Hopefully by burying him the other team is fooled and he can find his footing again. couple comments on twitter. on paper it makes sense but on the ice?
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Post by vadarx on Nov 18, 2024 17:39:34 GMT -6
Well here’s a new one…reminds me of when I tried to solve a Rubik’s cube. And just because Bedard is on it, that becomes the de facto first line? Hopefully by burying him the other team is fooled and he can find his footing again. couple comments on twitter. on paper it makes sense but on the ice? I don't love that line, but he most definitely needs to just go out and score some fackin goals right now...
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