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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 15, 2023 20:37:31 GMT -6
Well that went about as expected made the mistake of watching the last 2 min of TNT intro how in the hell does someone with 7 NHL goals say he right now could make this team.
The guy could barely make the yotes and thats because he was a clown..... And who nicknames themselves after a Janet Jackson song WTF.
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 15, 2023 20:39:00 GMT -6
high danger chances favored toronto 21-6.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 15, 2023 20:45:31 GMT -6
Good to see Guttman rewarded. I wanted to see him. But wouldn’t Reichel be wondering why he isn’t the automatic go to call up? maybe he isn't the most deserving. hard to tell by looking at boxscores or hilites on YT, but his play seems to have dropped off since he was sent back to rockford after his callup. In Lucas defense hogs all went through rough patch, but you could say Gust and Sikura were as deserving as Lucas and you would not be wrong. Remember when your PR campaign is about the future you dont want to ruin that. Interesting to see what they do when trades are made if there are any. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 15, 2023 21:04:46 GMT -6
idk how many listen to zawaski's post game CHGO podcasts, but the last few episodes they are really ripping on kane.
tonight's show in particular they are roasting him pretty bad.
starts about 9:15 in, ends around 29 minutes.
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 15, 2023 21:04:55 GMT -6
Maybe they should try him for the tip ins on the power play. He seems to have a knack for it. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 15, 2023 21:06:25 GMT -6
Wow------ a -610!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never seen that in any game in any sport. That is amazing. |
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Post by 2old4this on Feb 15, 2023 21:46:00 GMT -6
Well at least we get to look at Jackie Redmond There's no accounting for some folks' taste. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 15, 2023 21:50:10 GMT -6
idk how many listen to zawaski's post game CHGO podcasts, but the last few episodes they are really ripping on kane. tonight's show in particular they are roasting him pretty bad. Rember what MVR said the org uses the press to go after the player. Did not listen tonight and Im done listing to Jay for the rest of the year. He has made the mistake of thinking his little hockey world is the only one that matters. He is trying to be a sports personality now not a good fit for him and thing 1 and thing 2 with him are not much better. last 3 episodes they have really ripped on 88. While bitching how hard there job is ..... Let me say that again while bitching how hard there job is! I say we have a big pitty party for the 3 stooges how hard there lives are! So yes 88 and 19 have to go away because its to hard for Jay Z LMFAO. |
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Post by higgyhawk on Feb 15, 2023 21:56:45 GMT -6
idk how many listen to zawaski's post game CHGO podcasts, but the last few episodes they are really ripping on kane. tonight's show in particular they are roasting him pretty bad. Ya I didn't like them ripping Kane |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 15, 2023 22:05:29 GMT -6
Did not mean to give such an angry response. I like Jay but 88 is the same guy he has always been he never said he would waive his NMC just dont like the disrespect.
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Post by tincup on Feb 15, 2023 22:52:57 GMT -6
It’s not much but with that goal he ties his career high and also hits his high in points. There is progress in his game I think, if you ignore that team worst minus stat. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 16, 2023 11:04:33 GMT -6
Could say the same for the rest of them. Maybe they should decline the Penalty like in football. Kane and Jones would never be removed, Domi is the default #1 Center. Raddysh and TJ are the replaceable parts. Mitchell should take Johnson’s place, it’s where he sets up on the second unit. He scored a bunch from one timers in Rockford, he’s got a good shot. He'd have better numbers and at least some value that way too. I'll never understand all the vets all year,evrey single time all six of em were healthy......all six started. I just don't see Mitchell as being good enough to assure fewer losses but he might have been good enough to increase his trade value if he wasn't sittin' half the time......he gone. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 16, 2023 11:17:27 GMT -6
maybe he isn't the most deserving. hard to tell by looking at boxscores or hilites on YT, but his play seems to have dropped off since he was sent back to rockford after his callup. Richardson made the mistake of insinuating Reichel was here to stay, then Reichel compounds the issue if he goes down and doesn't bust his ass to get brought back up. I'll agree that every kid should bust his ass no matter what but they're only human and those 20 somethings seem more 'human' than ever.......says the old fukk!LOL! Reichel expressed his desire and readiness to play in the NHL at the start of the year and backed it up last time with the big club after a real good AHL season last year. His HC says 'it's more than 2-3 games this time" and his GM mentions an "extended look",he 'looks' better than ever after those 2-3 games and he's headin' back to Rockford? Not the next guy up either? |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 16, 2023 11:36:27 GMT -6
idk how many listen to zawaski's post game CHGO podcasts, but the last few episodes they are really ripping on kane. tonight's show in particular they are roasting him pretty bad. Rember what MVR said the org uses the press to go after the player. Did not listen tonight and Im done listing to Jay for the rest of the year. He has made the mistake of thinking his little hockey world is the only one that matters. He is trying to be a sports personality now not a good fit for him and thing 1 and thing 2 with him are not much better. last 3 episodes they have really ripped on 88. While bitching how hard there job is ..... Let me say that again while bitching how hard there job is! I say we have a big pitty party for the 3 stooges how hard there lives are! So yes 88 and 19 have to go away because its to hard for Jay Z LMFAO. Three fat, disrespectful punks that probably couldn't run around the F'n block if you put a gun to their heads insulting one of the greatest athletes of their worthless lifetimes! Why? To carry water for the FO? Better be small buckets lookin' at those lazy creampuffs!LOFL! The hockey talk is WAY better here!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 16, 2023 11:45:04 GMT -6
Did not mean to give such an angry response. I like Jay but 88 is the same guy he has always been he never said he would waive his NMC just dont like the disrespect. I said last summer,that Kane would miss Cat and Strome as much or more than they'd miss him and he does. We also don't know if Kane was 'asked' to waive or if the asking price was too high as was reported but we do know NY was Kane's first choice. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 16, 2023 13:54:33 GMT -6
It’s not much but with that goal he ties his career high and also hits his high in points. There is progress in his game I think, if you ignore that team worst minus stat. I agree on the progress and I'm surprised he isn't already wrapped-up for a few more years since it could be done on the 'cheap',he can also be qualified again on the 'cheap'......will he be? He's also arb eligible this time and already took a pay cut down to league minimum last time. At worst,he's a cheap,warm body with some name recognition and maybe a 23yro with decent size finds whatever the ingredient it is he's missing in his mid 20's like we've seen other forwards do recently. |
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Post by tincup on Feb 16, 2023 17:17:14 GMT -6
It’s not much but with that goal he ties his career high and also hits his high in points. There is progress in his game I think, if you ignore that team worst minus stat. I agree on the progress and I'm surprised he isn't already wrapped-up for a few more years since it could be done on the 'cheap',he can also be qualified again on the 'cheap'......will he be? He's also arb eligible this time and already took a pay cut down to league minimum last time. At worst,he's a cheap,warm body with some name recognition and maybe a 23yro with decent size finds whatever the ingredient it is he's missing in his mid 20's like we've seen other forwards do recently. I’d like to see him resigned for all the reasons you’ve listed. He’s a fourth round pick that would only get something similar in return if moved so why not keep a player you’ve been developing instead of starting over. As for that development, this is really the first year that a coach has had enough confidence in him to not only play him every game but expand his duties to some PK’ing as well. The horrifying +/- numbers aren’t really all his fault on this team and in truth, his TKA/GVA ratio is I think, best on the team. His eight goals don’t seem like much but they’re all even strength, third best on the team. He needs to stay upright more often and I’d like to see him engage more physically, but with newer, younger players about to start joining the team, it’s possible he blooms somewhat. |
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Post by nighbor on Feb 16, 2023 20:35:24 GMT -6
Did not mean to give such an angry response. I like Jay but 88 is the same guy he has always been he never said he would waive his NMC just dont like the disrespect. I said last summer,that Kane would miss Cat and Strome as much or more than they'd miss him and he does. We also don't know if Kane was 'asked' to waive or if the asking price was too high as was reported but we do know NY was Kane's first choice. KD when first hired made it clear that he was not going to ask T or K to waive. They were both told that if they waived he would make it happen. I am tired of people wanting to blame KD because everyone knows T and K are in control. KD may be many things but mind reader is not one of them. After the NY - St Louis trade K has still not waived. In any negotiations you start high so that you can come down and get exactly what you wanted and both sides feel like winners. Great job KD. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 17, 2023 9:01:11 GMT -6
It’s not much but with that goal he ties his career high and also hits his high in points. There is progress in his game I think, if you ignore that team worst minus stat. To be fair, if I don't notice a FWD on the ice for a long time, or I notice a defenseman in the bad way for the first time in a long time, I say that. Good on him for doing all that, and yes there is progress. I think the best this squad can do this year is gallows humor. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 17, 2023 9:41:15 GMT -6
I said last summer,that Kane would miss Cat and Strome as much or more than they'd miss him and he does. We also don't know if Kane was 'asked' to waive or if the asking price was too high as was reported but we do know NY was Kane's first choice. KD when first hired made it clear that he was not going to ask T or K to waive. They were both told that if they waived he would make it happen. I am tired of people wanting to blame KD because everyone knows T and K are in control. KD may be many things but mind reader is not one of them. After the NY - St Louis trade K has still not waived. In any negotiations you start high so that you can come down and get exactly what you wanted and both sides feel like winners. Great job KD. Why do the players have to ask to be traded? Both have publicly expressed the understanding that they could be moved this year and I'm sure they follow the story-lines around the league. Why can't they be asked to waive? Pittsburgh asked MAF to waive when they traded him to LV and we asked him before we traded him last year too. Other players have been asked to waive also and when they agree and the team gets a good return.......everybody involved looks good. The meeting we've heard about should be right around the corner but do the players waive before knowing where they're going? Yes,they can both offer a list of teams they'll waive to go to and that's supposed to happen at said meeting but if a team makes an offer that isn't on the list or before the meeting.......is it ignored? Would better communication avoid the need to read minds? Do we know that NY made an acceptable offer and Kane wasn't informed because he hasn't asked to be waived? Were there extension demands on Kane's part that blew the deal? Did he refuse to waive so he could go to his first choice? We don't know but if NY made an acceptable offer and KD refused to be the first one to ask........that's a missed opportunity IMO. Kane was publicly surprised and disappointed about the NY trade,which tells me he wasn't in any way 'in-the-loop'.........he's not a mind reader either. The Org's media minions are already personally attacking the two players and if trades don't happen it'll be their fault.......right? If no other trades are made again at this year's TDL,will K&T be blamed for that too? |
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Post by nighbor on Feb 17, 2023 17:32:43 GMT -6
KD when first hired made it clear that he was not going to ask T or K to waive. They were both told that if they waived he would make it happen. I am tired of people wanting to blame KD because everyone knows T and K are in control. KD may be many things but mind reader is not one of them. After the NY - St Louis trade K has still not waived. In any negotiations you start high so that you can come down and get exactly what you wanted and both sides feel like winners. Great job KD. Why do the players have to ask to be traded? Both have publicly expressed the understanding that they could be moved this year and I'm sure they follow the story-lines around the league. Why can't they be asked to waive? Pittsburgh asked MAF to waive when they traded him to LV and we asked him before we traded him last year too. Other players have been asked to waive also and when they agree and the team gets a good return.......everybody involved looks good. The meeting we've heard about should be right around the corner but do the players waive before knowing where they're going? Yes,they can both offer a list of teams they'll waive to go to and that's supposed to happen at said meeting but if a team makes an offer that isn't on the list or before the meeting.......is it ignored? Would better communication avoid the need to read minds? Do we know that NY made an acceptable offer and Kane wasn't informed because he hasn't asked to be waived? Were there extension demands on Kane's part that blew the deal? Did he refuse to waive so he could go to his first choice? We don't know but if NY made an acceptable offer and KD refused to be the first one to ask........that's a missed opportunity IMO. Kane was publicly surprised and disappointed about the NY trade,which tells me he wasn't in any way 'in-the-loop'.........he's not a mind reader either. The Org's media minions are already personally attacking the two players and if trades don't happen it'll be their fault.......right? If no other trades are made again at this year's TDL,will K&T be blamed for that too? They signed a legal binding contract giving them and only them the power to decide their fate. KD honored said contracts and was unwilling to put pressure on either T or K out of RESPECT. T and K could have asked for a trade anytime during their 8 year contract including the 2022 TDL and draft. Pittsburg asking MAF was different because it was an expansion draft and not a trade. Pittsburg had to know right away if they were unhappy. When a player waives and submits his list of teams management is legally obligated to deal only with these teams. A player can expand his list prior to any deal. I believe Kane was more disappointed with himself for not waiving. It is not the responsibility of KD or any GM to keep players in the loop. That is what agents get paid for. CHGO personnel and others are not minions of the organization but fans of the Hawks who are closer to the situation than me. They are as frustrated as the rest of us. It would be nice if T and K decided either way so we as fans could move on and discus something else. If nothing happens it is just GM's not wanting to do us any favors. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 18, 2023 10:56:12 GMT -6
Why do the players have to ask to be traded? Both have publicly expressed the understanding that they could be moved this year and I'm sure they follow the story-lines around the league. Why can't they be asked to waive? Pittsburgh asked MAF to waive when they traded him to LV and we asked him before we traded him last year too. Other players have been asked to waive also and when they agree and the team gets a good return.......everybody involved looks good. The meeting we've heard about should be right around the corner but do the players waive before knowing where they're going? Yes,they can both offer a list of teams they'll waive to go to and that's supposed to happen at said meeting but if a team makes an offer that isn't on the list or before the meeting.......is it ignored? Would better communication avoid the need to read minds? Do we know that NY made an acceptable offer and Kane wasn't informed because he hasn't asked to be waived? Were there extension demands on Kane's part that blew the deal? Did he refuse to waive so he could go to his first choice? We don't know but if NY made an acceptable offer and KD refused to be the first one to ask........that's a missed opportunity IMO. Kane was publicly surprised and disappointed about the NY trade,which tells me he wasn't in any way 'in-the-loop'.........he's not a mind reader either. The Org's media minions are already personally attacking the two players and if trades don't happen it'll be their fault.......right? If no other trades are made again at this year's TDL,will K&T be blamed for that too? They signed a legal binding contract giving them and only them the power to decide their fate. KD honored said contracts and was unwilling to put pressure on either T or K out of RESPECT. T and K could have asked for a trade anytime during their 8 year contract including the 2022 TDL and draft. Pittsburg asking MAF was different because it was an expansion draft and not a trade. Pittsburg had to know right away if they were unhappy. When a player waives and submits his list of teams management is legally obligated to deal only with these teams. A player can expand his list prior to any deal. I believe Kane was more disappointed with himself for not waiving. It is not the responsibility of KD or any GM to keep players in the loop. That is what agents get paid for. CHGO personnel and others are not minions of the organization but fans of the Hawks who are closer to the situation than me. They are as frustrated as the rest of us. It would be nice if T and K decided either way so we as fans could move on and discus something else. If nothing happens it is just GM's not wanting to do us any favors. Are you not assuming when you state Kane didn't waive and they might have already submitted their lists........how would anyone not directly involved know? How does anyone know Kane's blowing deals with extension demands for that matter either,there's been nothing reported of it but it was reported that Meijer and Kane's asking prices were too high for NY and we don't know that to be true either. I hear both players value has plummeted due to diminished skill,they refuse to waive or submit their lists and/or they demand extensions to waive......we just don't know but I do now all the 'low hanging fruit' is gone. I hope the new GM makes a couple of real good trades between now and the TDL and I'll compliment him if he does. I've followed Chicago sports media for sixty years,they've become very supportive of management to the point of out n out 'carrying water' for em in order to curry favor with ownership.......and the Hawks Org has a history of demanding it or a reporter loses access. Of course millennial pod-casters are frustrated........can't be much fun being an 'incel'.....LOL Notice who they directed their frustration at,they're not involved either and know no more than the rest of us but that doesn't matter.....they've taken the side they see as advantageous. Do you know for certain that T and K haven't decided? If nothing happens with K&T there's a lot of cover for the new GM and there will be for a few more year,regardless but if nothing happens at all at the TDL......how can we pin that on K&T too? |
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