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Post by vadarx on Feb 18, 2023 6:45:07 GMT -6
Well good job by the boys they were engaged and had great effort. Great game by 6 Im sorry but if he is traded with half retained thats gotta be a 1st. Thought 52 had some great energy. Rough one for 51 but he battled hard. 88 shutting up some peeps. Perdition for tomorrow Jax and Maz get hurt CFD tender finishes game. Glad to see the boys play hard! Playing hard is one just aspect of a successful team. In this case, playing hard merely leads to an occasional victory which leads to 10 to 15 years of failure to because a Cup competitive team. Is it really enjoyable to see a team that plays hard which rarely wins because its lack of talent cannot be regularly overcome by playing hard? not much that is enjoyable this season except for following our current prospects and the occasional win by the good guys. seeing them play hard is a good thing, regardless of whether they have the talent now or not. seeing as LR is at least planned on being the man that leads the team when they are good again, him instilling a culture of hard work now will hopefully pay dividends when the talent starts arriving. if you want to have (some) control of whether your team is good and wins (or not), I'd recommend joining our fantasy league next year. 😉 if you thought they would lose every game, it makes one wonder if you've watched any professional sports at all, tbh. in every professional league like the NHL, where the best of the best play, sometimes the lesser team wins. I feel pretty confident you already know that, though. we are 1 point ahead of the last place team, which means we have better odds than 30 other teams to land that top pick. let's see how it plays out... |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 18, 2023 8:00:07 GMT -6
Playing hard is one just aspect of a successful team. In this case, playing hard merely leads to an occasional victory which leads to 10 to 15 years of failure to because a Cup competitive team. Is it really enjoyable to see a team that plays hard which rarely wins because its lack of talent cannot be regularly overcome by playing hard? not much that is enjoyable this season except for following our current prospects and the occasional win by the good guys. seeing them play hard is a good thing, regardless of whether they have the talent now or not. seeing as LR is at least planned on being the man that leads the team when they are good again, him instilling a culture of hard work now will hopefully pay dividends when the talent starts arriving. if you want to have (some) control of whether your team is good and wins (or not), I'd recommend joining our fantasy league next year. 😉 if you thought they would lose every game, it makes one wonder if you've watched any professional sports at all, tbh. in every professional league like the NHL, where the best of the best play, sometimes the lesser team wins. I feel pretty confident you already know that, though. we are 1 point ahead of the last place team, which means we have better odds than 30 other teams to land that top pick. let's see how it plays out... All that you say is true, but it still pisses me off to see them win, regardless of the positive cultural effects of doing so. They are in a battle to restore some degree of quality to this garbage organization and it is not a good time to be winning. Even though there is no guarantee of getting Bedard, they might as well max out their chances. Winning only gets in the way of that happening and lengthens the time it will take to become competitive. Lose some and then lose some more should be the motto for now. Every win now lessens their chances of ever becoming a dominant team again. Just compare where the Chicago and Boston orgs are now after being on equal terms in the Cup finals of 2013. I don't like the Chicago position one bit and hope to see them return some day to being competent. Wins today will not let that happen for even more years. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 18, 2023 8:57:52 GMT -6
not much that is enjoyable this season except for following our current prospects and the occasional win by the good guys. seeing them play hard is a good thing, regardless of whether they have the talent now or not. seeing as LR is at least planned on being the man that leads the team when they are good again, him instilling a culture of hard work now will hopefully pay dividends when the talent starts arriving. if you want to have (some) control of whether your team is good and wins (or not), I'd recommend joining our fantasy league next year. 😉 if you thought they would lose every game, it makes one wonder if you've watched any professional sports at all, tbh. in every professional league like the NHL, where the best of the best play, sometimes the lesser team wins. I feel pretty confident you already know that, though. we are 1 point ahead of the last place team, which means we have better odds than 30 other teams to land that top pick. let's see how it plays out... All that you say is true, but it still pisses me off to see them win, regardless of the positive cultural effects of doing so. They are in a battle to restore some degree of quality to this garbage organization and it is not a good time to be winning. Even though there is no guarantee of getting Bedard, they might as well max out their chances. Winning only gets in the way of that happening and lengthens the time it will take to become competitive. Lose some and then lose some more should be the motto for now. Every win now lessens their chances of ever becoming a dominant team again. Just compare where the Chicago and Boston orgs are now after being on equal terms in the Cup finals of 2013. I don't like the Chicago position one bit and hope to see them return some day to being competent. Wins today will not let that happen for even more years. that's fair and I think we all want to see them kicking ass and taking names again, but I guess I don't see what the problem is now when they win on occasion, because they are definitely losing some and then losing some more thus far this season. the tank is squarely on the tracks. as far as Boston vs Chicago, I'll take the 3 Cups and the shitty situation we find ourselves in now over 1 Cup and probably back to middling next season once Bergeron is done there and Pasta costs them an arm and a leg. plus, I am not buying the hype. I think Ulmark is gonna show his true colors in the post-season and there will be a lot of sad bruins fans yet again. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 18, 2023 9:06:19 GMT -6
Well good job by the boys they were engaged and had great effort. Great game by 6 Im sorry but if he is traded with half retained thats gotta be a 1st. Thought 52 had some great energy. Rough one for 51 but he battled hard. 88 shutting up some peeps. Perdition for tomorrow Jax and Maz get hurt CFD tender finishes game. Glad to see the boys play hard! Playing hard is one just aspect of a successful team. In this case, playing hard merely leads to an occasional victory which leads to 10 to 15 years of failure to become a Cup competitive team. Is it really enjoyable to see a team that plays hard which rarely wins because its lack of talent cannot be regularly overcome by playing hard? Yes Jack I did enjoy myself watching the game last night . From this year I have come to the conclusion that I really enjoy watching blackhawk hockey. Yes some of its gonna suck balls but I still enjoy watching, just gonna be angry at the outcome. Never know when are time is up I plan on watching til that time comes. Jack you went from 7 years to 15 because of one loss that might be a little dramatic? |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 18, 2023 12:02:21 GMT -6
not much that is enjoyable this season except for following our current prospects and the occasional win by the good guys. seeing them play hard is a good thing, regardless of whether they have the talent now or not. seeing as LR is at least planned on being the man that leads the team when they are good again, him instilling a culture of hard work now will hopefully pay dividends when the talent starts arriving. if you want to have (some) control of whether your team is good and wins (or not), I'd recommend joining our fantasy league next year. 😉 if you thought they would lose every game, it makes one wonder if you've watched any professional sports at all, tbh. in every professional league like the NHL, where the best of the best play, sometimes the lesser team wins. I feel pretty confident you already know that, though. we are 1 point ahead of the last place team, which means we have better odds than 30 other teams to land that top pick. let's see how it plays out... All that you say is true, but it still pisses me off to see them win, regardless of the positive cultural effects of doing so. They are in a battle to restore some degree of quality to this garbage organization and it is not a good time to be winning. Even though there is no guarantee of getting Bedard, they might as well max out their chances. Winning only gets in the way of that happening and lengthens the time it will take to become competitive. Lose some and then lose some more should be the motto for now. Every win now lessens their chances of ever becoming a dominant team again. Just compare where the Chicago and Boston orgs are now after being on equal terms in the Cup finals of 2013. I don't like the Chicago position one bit and hope to see them return some day to being competent. Wins today will not let that happen for even more years. IMO jack,no team did more to tank than the Hawks this year. They decimated their roster in the offseason,losing 5 of their 8 top scorers and their 1st,3rd,4th and 5th leading gaol getters from last year too. Not much more you can do with so many guys trying to prove themselves but I guess you could trade a few vets and weaken the roster further.....let's hope. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 18, 2023 12:49:23 GMT -6
All that you say is true, but it still pisses me off to see them win, regardless of the positive cultural effects of doing so. They are in a battle to restore some degree of quality to this garbage organization and it is not a good time to be winning. Even though there is no guarantee of getting Bedard, they might as well max out their chances. Winning only gets in the way of that happening and lengthens the time it will take to become competitive. Lose some and then lose some more should be the motto for now. Every win now lessens their chances of ever becoming a dominant team again. Just compare where the Chicago and Boston orgs are now after being on equal terms in the Cup finals of 2013. I don't like the Chicago position one bit and hope to see them return some day to being competent. Wins today will not let that happen for even more years. that's fair and I think we all want to see them kicking ass and taking names again, but I guess I don't see what the problem is now when they win on occasion, because they are definitely losing some and then losing some more thus far this season. the tank is squarely on the tracks. as far as Boston vs Chicago, I'll take the 3 Cups and the shitty situation we find ourselves in now over 1 Cup and probably back to middling next season once Bergeron is done there and Pasta costs them an arm and a leg. plus, I am not buying the hype. I think Ulmark is gonna show his true colors in the post-season and there will be a lot of sad bruins fans yet again. You are right that winning 3 Cups takes its toll on being able to keep a good roster within the cap. Boston did not have that problem and they haven't won the 2023 Cup yet. As for the tank, I sincerely hope that they get Bedard no matter where they finish just to give them a fighting chance of reviving. You never know when they might land an uppercut when one least expects it, just like my man James Buster Douglas. But, until then, I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 18, 2023 12:53:05 GMT -6
All that you say is true, but it still pisses me off to see them win, regardless of the positive cultural effects of doing so. They are in a battle to restore some degree of quality to this garbage organization and it is not a good time to be winning. Even though there is no guarantee of getting Bedard, they might as well max out their chances. Winning only gets in the way of that happening and lengthens the time it will take to become competitive. Lose some and then lose some more should be the motto for now. Every win now lessens their chances of ever becoming a dominant team again. Just compare where the Chicago and Boston orgs are now after being on equal terms in the Cup finals of 2013. I don't like the Chicago position one bit and hope to see them return some day to being competent. Wins today will not let that happen for even more years. IMO jack,no team did more to tank than the Hawks this year. They decimated their roster in the offseason,losing 5 of their 8 top scorers and their 1st,3rd,4th and 5th leading gaol getters from last year too. Not much more you can do with so many guys trying to prove themselves but I guess you could trade a few vets and weaken the roster further.....let's hope. Let the weakening continue. However, I sure don't like the way the Kane/Toews thing is going, altho, it appears that the whole situation is completely out of the control of the team except to possibly sign those two one -year contracts during this off-season. However, I cannot se any reason why Kane/Toews would sign up for more pain; the likelihood of being traded somewhere they don't like next year and avoid getting their last sweet contracts in free agency. |
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Post by tincup on Feb 18, 2023 13:42:25 GMT -6
I didn’t watch the beginning, what is Lazarus whining about now… Game started close to 30 minutes late due to retirement ceremony for Chris Neil Low bar… |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 18, 2023 15:15:57 GMT -6
Game started close to 30 minutes late due to retirement ceremony for Chris Neil Low bar… It does seem strange they'd retire a 4th liners jersey, but his off ice actions might've played a big part in it. It is impressive though he played 1,026gms all with Ottawa being a 4th liner. |
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Post by 2old4this on Feb 18, 2023 15:33:18 GMT -6
I"d like to know how much they make for those lucrative Chevy comercials. Gotta be tons. Dunno if GM would pay to make new comercials for a one year contract. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 18, 2023 16:22:19 GMT -6
I"d like to know how much they make for those lucrative Chevy comercials. Gotta be tons. Dunno if GM would pay to make new comercials for a one year contract. Good point. I never thought of having to give up the extra Chicago ad income. Hell, why agree to a trade when you get another $10 million from the Chicagoland Chevy dealers and the free use of a Corvette, or Suburban, in any color, every year. It just goes to show how limited my ability to assess such a situation is. As I said before: "It's too much monkey business for me to be involved in." |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 18, 2023 17:17:59 GMT -6
It does seem strange they'd retire a 4th liners jersey, but his off ice actions might've played a big part in it. It is impressive though he played 1,026gms all with Ottawa being a 4th liner. chris neil was a heart and soul guy. we've got one of our own in our rafters, and keith magnuson played 437 less games in his career. |
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Post by steamer on Feb 18, 2023 18:58:14 GMT -6
Too many Ken Campbell types out there. If they want to retire a jersey let’em.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 18, 2023 19:07:11 GMT -6
It does seem strange they'd retire a 4th liners jersey, but his off ice actions might've played a big part in it. It is impressive though he played 1,026gms all with Ottawa being a 4th liner. chris neil was a heart and soul guy. we've got one of our own in our rafters, and keith magnuson played 437 less games in his career. Then my cousin should have his #4 retired. He was the heart and soul of the Blackhawks for 14yrs, after his shoulder injury in the conference finals in 92 the Hawks never won another game. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 18, 2023 19:23:32 GMT -6
chris neil was a heart and soul guy. we've got one of our own in our rafters, and keith magnuson played 437 less games in his career. Then my cousin should have his #4 retired. He was the heart and soul of the Blackhawks for 14yrs, after his shoulder injury in the conference finals in 92 the Hawks never won another game. can't argue but he'd have to tag along with another retirement number like maggie did. maybe him and nik hjalmarsson. : ) yep...your cousin was as steady as they came. under rated as well imo. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 18, 2023 19:37:56 GMT -6
Playing hard is one just aspect of a successful team. In this case, playing hard merely leads to an occasional victory which leads to 10 to 15 years of failure to become a Cup competitive team. Is it really enjoyable to see a team that plays hard which rarely wins because its lack of talent cannot be regularly overcome by playing hard? Yes Jack I did enjoy myself watching the game last night . From this year I have come to the conclusion that I really enjoy watching blackhawk hockey. Yes some of its gonna suck balls but I still enjoy watching, just gonna be angry at the outcome. Never know when are time is up I plan on watching til that time comes. Jack you went from 7 years to 15 because of one loss that might be a little dramatic? jackets won tonight in dallas. i'm not exactly sure how it works but i'm guessing we're back down to around 8 to 10 years. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 18, 2023 20:41:23 GMT -6
Yes Jack I did enjoy myself watching the game last night . From this year I have come to the conclusion that I really enjoy watching blackhawk hockey. Yes some of its gonna suck balls but I still enjoy watching, just gonna be angry at the outcome. Never know when are time is up I plan on watching til that time comes. Jack you went from 7 years to 15 because of one loss that might be a little dramatic? jackets won tonight in dallas. i'm not exactly sure how it works but i'm guessing we're back down to around 8 to 10 years. Someday I'll explain it to you, but, until then, it'll remain a secret in my corroded mind. I got your points and I can't say I disagree with either of you. I am just setting myself up not to be disappointed by having an expectation of success before these excessive time periods expire. Altho, they may not be excessive. Just ask any Oiler fan, or Sabre fan etc, etc, etc, etc. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 18, 2023 20:42:06 GMT -6
chris neil was a heart and soul guy. we've got one of our own in our rafters, and keith magnuson played 437 less games in his career. Then my cousin should have his #4 retired. He was the heart and soul of the Blackhawks for 14yrs, after his shoulder injury in the conference finals in 92 the Hawks never won another game. Brownie was a fav of mine for sure. One tough SOB. But such a nice guy when I met him at the Palace grill. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 19, 2023 9:42:11 GMT -6
It does seem strange they'd retire a 4th liners jersey, but his off ice actions might've played a big part in it. It is impressive though he played 1,026gms all with Ottawa being a 4th liner. chris neil was a heart and soul guy. we've got one of our own in our rafters, and keith magnuson played 437 less games in his career. There's no doubt it's unorthodox to see a 'Neil' type player get such an honor but like you said,the guy played over a 1,000 games for Ottawa and every F'n one of em like his hair was on fire,and doesn't that still warm ya somewhere? He'd take a bullet for his team on a nightly basis,a lotta fights? Take liberties with Chris Neil's team and you'd have to deal with Chis Neil......right then and there. He competed in the heavy weight division @6'1" 210lbs but it didn't matter,take liberties and take on Neil when you did........ www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdoSO9h4_-k |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 19, 2023 10:03:11 GMT -6
Yes Jack I did enjoy myself watching the game last night . From this year I have come to the conclusion that I really enjoy watching blackhawk hockey. Yes some of its gonna suck balls but I still enjoy watching, just gonna be angry at the outcome. Never know when are time is up I plan on watching til that time comes. Jack you went from 7 years to 15 because of one loss that might be a little dramatic? jackets won tonight in dallas. i'm not exactly sure how it works but i'm guessing we're back down to around 8 to 10 years. Dallas has scored five goals in their four-game losing streak but still got 2 points out of those loses since they only allowed 12 against. The Stars allow the 8th least against in the league......................they need scoring bad! So do the Isle and the Preds allow the 11th least against(5pts out w/2gms in hand). |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 19, 2023 10:59:25 GMT -6
IMO jack,no team did more to tank than the Hawks this year. They decimated their roster in the offseason,losing 5 of their 8 top scorers and their 1st,3rd,4th and 5th leading gaol getters from last year too. Not much more you can do with so many guys trying to prove themselves but I guess you could trade a few vets and weaken the roster further.....let's hope. Let the weakening continue. However, I sure don't like the way the Kane/Toews thing is going, altho, it appears that the whole situation is completely out of the control of the team except to possibly sign those two one -year contracts during this off-season. However, I cannot se any reason why Kane/Toews would sign up for more pain; the likelihood of being traded somewhere they don't like next year and avoid getting their last sweet contracts in free agency. Regardless of what any of us think or assume about the K&T situation,the one thing I do know is,NO GM has ever attempted to trade two of his team's biggest legends at the same TDL,let alone both with full NMC's. This is uncharted territory and a TALL order to begin with and IF the players are making it more difficult,it's even taller! Kane stated his loyalty to the Org and his willingness to do right by it in his last interview. "Obviously you want to do right by the franchise, and the organization here has been amazing to me and given me so much. So you definitely want what's best for both sides," he said. I have over a decade full of reasons to respect and trust Patrick Kane and I hope he stands behind that statement! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 25, 2023 5:24:16 GMT -6
Zaitsev with an assist, trade for that guy! What are you? Kreskin?? |
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