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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 26, 2023 19:06:09 GMT -6
if Toronto blows this, there might be riots... Not even the Loafs can blow this one, can they?
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 26, 2023 19:35:24 GMT -6
vasilevskiy's magic seems to be finally waning.
4.33 and an .856 save % in 4 games this playoff year.
there's no chance cooper starts elliott next game is there?
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 26, 2023 19:58:56 GMT -6
vasilevskiy's magic seems to be finally waning. 4.33 and an .856 save % in 4 games this playoff year. there's no chance cooper starts elliott next game is there? No but they got outworked the whole 3rd not sure they have much left in the tank.
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Post by BigT on Apr 27, 2023 10:26:57 GMT -6
Remember. It is the Leaves here. They can be their own worst enemy. If the Leaves lose tonight. It’s on. The pressure will be insurmountable. They’ll more than likely lose the series. We’ll see how they come out. Tampa is at the end of their impressive runs, don’t give them anything to cheer for. If you do, good chance they could wake up once again!!!
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2023 17:20:09 GMT -6
Reilly gonna have more goals in this series than he did all season...
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2023 17:20:39 GMT -6
lol, that didn't take long
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Post by Nikos on Apr 27, 2023 17:29:17 GMT -6
In a must win Bolts Tanner Jeannot not in line up. For Jeannot the Lightning sent Nashville defenseman Cal Foote, and 5 picks, a 2025 first-round pick, a 2024 second-round pick, and third-, fourth- and fifth-round picks in the 2023 NHL draft.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2023 17:52:38 GMT -6
In a must win Bolts Tanner Jeannot not in line up. For Jeannot the Lightning sent Nashville defenseman Cal Foote, and 5 picks, a 2025 first-round pick, a 2024 second-round pick, and third-, fourth- and fifth-round picks in the 2023 NHL draft. yeah, that was an awful lot to give up for jeannot.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2023 18:19:18 GMT -6
wow...bad goal to give up by samsonov.
he's looked a bit out of sorts all game imo.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2023 18:52:36 GMT -6
dumb penalty by maroon with a couple seconds left in the period.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2023 19:53:17 GMT -6
of course the loafs blow it tonight. could be the beginning of the end for ole Sheldon and Co...
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2023 19:54:32 GMT -6
there's no chance cooper starts elliott next game is there? what fckn idiot would even think that? anyways, lets try this again. does joseph woll get the start for toronto next game? samsonov looked shaky to me even when he made a good save. and his numbers before tonight were 3.72 and .875%. the leafs were winning despite samsonov.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2023 19:56:54 GMT -6
there's no chance cooper starts elliott next game is there? what fckn idiot would even think that? anyways, lets try this again. does joseph woll get the start for toronto next game? samsonov looked shaky to me even when he made a good save. and his numbers before tonight were 3.72 and .875%. the leafs were winning despite samsonov. they've won cuz 88 wasn't playing well. if he plays like he did tonight the next two games, the loafs are fuct.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 27, 2023 21:10:52 GMT -6
Remember. It is the Leaves here. They can be their own worst enemy. If the Leaves lose tonight. It’s on. The pressure will be insurmountable. They’ll more than likely lose the series. We’ll see how they come out. Tampa is at the end of their impressive runs, don’t give them anything to cheer for. If you do, good chance they could wake up once again!!! What a bunch of clowns and losers those chumps are. OK, I can understand them losing the game. After all, the Bolts are not exactly the Chicago Blackhawks. However, the Toronto Circus had absolutely no jump in their step tonight. They were outshot and outhustled and played like they didn't give a shit what happened. One would have thought that they would have come on the ice and been the team that was first to the puck and outhustling the opponent. Instead, we got a bunch of drunken, slow losers. #3 (Holl?) (Noll?) had better learn to skate backwards as he got beat for Bolt goal #2 when he had to turn his body to chase the Bolt down instead of merely skating backward. In any event, what a piss poor effort from a bunch of losers and wannabees. They will go to Tampa and get their weak asses kicked into a 3-3 series and then come home and lose another series because have no guts and no pride. It is amazing that they could come into this game and put out such a weak effort. They deserve to lose this series. Not necessarily because they are the less talented team because, indeed, they are, but, mostly because they have no guts and no integrity and no energy to take it to the Bolts. Behind most of the series and outplayed and it has finally caught up with them. I don't even feel sorry for their fans because they should seen a long time ago that they are backing a bunch of weakass, gutless AHLers.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2023 21:16:11 GMT -6
Remember. It is the Leaves here. They can be their own worst enemy. If the Leaves lose tonight. It’s on. The pressure will be insurmountable. They’ll more than likely lose the series. We’ll see how they come out. Tampa is at the end of their impressive runs, don’t give them anything to cheer for. If you do, good chance they could wake up once again!!! #3 (Holl?) (Noll?) had better learn to skate backwards as he got beat for Bolt goal #2 when he had to turn his body to chase the Bolt down instead of merely skating backward. edit: that's 74% of all the leaf's goals against (rounded up). he's been on for 2 leaf goals.
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Post by BigT on Apr 27, 2023 21:56:34 GMT -6
I hate to say it. But the Leaves are in one here. Not sure they make it now. Realistically, Tampa should’ve won 2 other games in this series. Leaves have been lucky, not good. I don’t think they pull this off now. Tampa at home with be tough. But the leaves always find a way to lose. It’s not different this time. The only way the Bolts lose, is if their injuries catch up to them!!!
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2023 22:13:32 GMT -6
#3 (Holl?) (Noll?) had better learn to skate backwards as he got beat for Bolt goal #2 when he had to turn his body to chase the Bolt down instead of merely skating backward. edit: that's 74% of all the leaf's goals against (rounded up). he's been on for 2 leaf goals. might wanna sit him next game, Sheldon..
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2023 22:14:26 GMT -6
Remember. It is the Leaves here. They can be their own worst enemy. If the Leaves lose tonight. It’s on. The pressure will be insurmountable. They’ll more than likely lose the series. We’ll see how they come out. Tampa is at the end of their impressive runs, don’t give them anything to cheer for. If you do, good chance they could wake up once again!!! What a bunch of clowns and losers those chumps are. OK, I can understand them losing the game. After all, the Bolts are not exactly the Chicago Blackhawks. However, the Toronto Circus had absolutely no jump in their step tonight. They were outshot and outhustled and played like they didn't give a shit what happened. One would have thought that they would have come on the ice and been the team that was first to the puck and outhustling the opponent. Instead, we got a bunch of drunken, slow losers. #3 (Holl?) (Noll?) had better learn to skate backwards as he got beat for Bolt goal #2 when he had to turn his body to chase the Bolt down instead of merely skating backward. In any event, what a piss poor effort from a bunch of losers and wannabees. They will go to Tampa and get their weak asses kicked into a 3-3 series and then come home and lose another series because have no guts and no pride. It is amazing that they could come into this game and put out such a weak effort. They deserve to lose this series. Not necessarily because they are the less talented team because, indeed, they are, but, mostly because they have no guts and no integrity and no energy to take it to the Bolts. Behind most of the series and outplayed and it has finally caught up with them. I don't even feel sorry for their fans because they should seen a long time ago that they are backing a bunch of weakass, gutless AHLers. agree. an embarrassing effort tonight in a hugeeee game. that team doesn't know how to win.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 27, 2023 23:00:15 GMT -6
I hate to say it. But the Leaves are in one here. Not sure they make it now. Realistically, Tampa should’ve won 2 other games in this series. Leaves have been lucky, not good. I don’t think they pull this off now. Tampa at home with be tough. But the leaves always find a way to lose. It’s not different this time. The only way the Bolts lose, is if their injuries catch up to them!!! Yes, the other night when they won in overtime after having been outplayed thoroughly during the OT, just before the winning goal, I said the only way they win is, if they get lucky, and that is what happened. So, as you said, they have been lucky, not good. To blow a 3-1 series lead is almost unthinkable, but as you say, the Leafs always find a way to lose. This will just be another shot of that.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 28, 2023 1:13:20 GMT -6
i've really liked this kid's game up until this.
no embellishment call on the play of course, but in a situation like this...if an embellishment this obvious goes uncalled i think the league should fine the guy 5000 bucks or something like that (after review post game).
it won't hurt his pocketbook, but do it enough times and you'll end up with a reputation of a "diver" which i would hope would deter most players.
pretty sure the refs would be for it because i doubt nobody hates diving/embellishment in this league more than they do.
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Post by Tater on Apr 28, 2023 1:27:16 GMT -6
Great points GT. I didn't catch that only his hand got hit while watching it. I like the idea of a fine for that, before it starts turning into soccer.
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Post by jaty84 on Apr 28, 2023 2:11:29 GMT -6
i've really liked this kid's game up until this. no embellishment call on the play of course, but in a situation like this...if an embellishment this obvious goes uncalled i think the league should fine the guy 5000 bucks or something like that (after review post game). it won't hurt his pocketbook, but do it enough times and you'll end up with a reputation of a "diver" which i would hope would deter most players. pretty sure the refs would be for it because i doubt nobody hates diving/embellishment in this league more than they do. Actually looking at the video, I'm not so sure it did not hit him in face. Although the handle hit Knies in the arm, the tip could have him in the chin. Also the reaction by Knies was in a split of a second. Usually, in case of embelishments, it takes at least 2 splits of a second when a player realizes he can gain some advantage. This appeared to me to occur reflexively...
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Post by BigT on Apr 28, 2023 5:33:55 GMT -6
If this ends up in game 7. The pressure will be much too great for the Leaves to overcome……. Again. I’m not sure how they always end up here. I think maybe just being in Toronta is a pressure cooker and the fold under the pressure. It’s insane to think they’ve had this group together for 7-8 years now and can’t win one gawd damn playoff round. If this is the same. I’d go full rebuild and get what I could this year.
If they can’t win in their prime, they probably won’t win out side of their prime. Re-signing for the remainder of their careers would not be wise!!!
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 28, 2023 6:13:06 GMT -6
If this ends up in game 7. The pressure will be much too great for the Leaves to overcome……. Again. I’m not sure how they always end up here. I think maybe just being in Toronta is a pressure cooker and the fold under the pressure. It’s insane to think they’ve had this group together for 7-8 years now and can’t win one gawd damn playoff round. If this is the same. I’d go full rebuild and get what I could this year. If they can’t win in their prime, they probably won’t win out side of their prime. Re-signing for the remainder of their careers would not be wise!!! With the talent on the Leaf team, they may be able to recover and win the series. On the other hand, this may just be a doomed franchise. Given Toronto's lack of supreme effort in the game 5 that the Bolts had to have, the Leafs may well have sealed their fate and will go on to another playoff series defeat. They just don't have the spark they need to win on the big stage, at least not so far given how greatly they have been outplayed in this series. I know they have 3 wins, but they have still been outplayed badly. As an example, in a game 5 at home, late in the game, the Leafs had been outshot by 50%, 36 to 24. Is that the mark of a team that is functioning well? Doesn't look like it to me.
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Post by BigT on Apr 28, 2023 7:38:44 GMT -6
If this ends up in game 7. The pressure will be much too great for the Leaves to overcome……. Again. I’m not sure how they always end up here. I think maybe just being in Toronta is a pressure cooker and the fold under the pressure. It’s insane to think they’ve had this group together for 7-8 years now and can’t win one gawd damn playoff round. If this is the same. I’d go full rebuild and get what I could this year. If they can’t win in their prime, they probably won’t win out side of their prime. Re-signing for the remainder of their careers would not be wise!!! With the talent on the Leaf team, they may be able to recover and win the series. On the other hand, this may just be a doomed franchise. Given Toronto's lack of supreme effort in the game 5 that the Bolts had to have, the Leafs may well have sealed their fate and will go on to another playoff series defeat. They just don't have the spark they need to win on the big stage, at least not so far given how greatly they have been outplayed in this series. I know they have 3 wins, but they have still been outplayed badly. As an example, in a game 5 at home, late in the game, the Leafs had been outshot by 50%, 36 to 24. Is that the mark of a team that is functioning well? Doesn't look like it to me. To me, they gave up on their rebuild and made the cardinal mistake. They signed Tavares. Why does he always seem to be absolved from the blame? He’s been awful in the playoffs since signing there. That was an 11 million mistake. If they try again next year. Get Toews, limit his ice time for the regular season. The. Unload him in the post season. They need a real winner there. Tavares has been 11 million mistake. Nylander should be gone. He cares more about his hair and product for his hair than he does about winning. I’m sure the helmet is damaging to the flow. They really only have 4 maybe 5 guys left on this team that they drafted. So now the team is depleted. Not sure I’d keep it together. But if they do, they need to get a new personality in the room!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 28, 2023 7:44:21 GMT -6
Maybe they're waiting to announce Q as their new coach next season.
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Post by BigT on Apr 28, 2023 7:48:56 GMT -6
Maybe they're waiting to announce Q as their new coach next season. Have to think from Shanny on down will be torched. I believe Shanny, Doobie, Keefe will all be gone. They’ll bring back Burke, sign Q, and let Q decide the roster. They don’t need a full rebuild. But a retool. Q will have his guys. Hopefully they don’t bring in Q and the shithead that worked above him!!!
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 28, 2023 19:22:05 GMT -6
It was a sign that those clowns were going to lose game 5 when after getting the first goal in the game, 21 seconds later, they gave up the tying goal on a very poor defensive that allowed the Bolts to be in prime position to score the tying goal. It was obvious from that goal that Toronto was already malfunctioning, even though they had opened the scoring. That was the time to put the screws to the Bolts, instead of letting them right back into it with poor play. There is something that ain't right in the heads of the Toronto clowns.
On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the Bolts are simply the better team and that is why they have, for the most part, outplayed Toronto. It is the Bolts who have fallen asleep in two games and given up big leads, so they are the ones who are screwing up. By now, with a proper attitude, the Bolts would have won the series. In other words, Toronto is only on the verge of winning the series because the Bolts fell asleep in two games in which they had big leads; and not because Toronto is the better team; or an even match for the Bolts. As long as the Bolts keep their heads screwed on right, the Leafs have little chance of winning another game. If they do, it will be because the Bolts blew another one, not because the Leafs actually beat them.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 28, 2023 23:05:07 GMT -6
It was a sign that those clowns were going to lose game 5 when after getting the first goal in the game, 21 seconds later, they gave up the tying goal on a very poor defensive that allowed the Bolts to be in prime position to score the tying goal. It was obvious from that goal that Toronto was already malfunctioning, even though they had opened the scoring. That was the time to put the screws to the Bolts, instead of letting them right back into it with poor play. There is something that ain't right in the heads of the Toronto clowns. On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the Bolts are simply the better team and that is why they have, for the most part, outplayed Toronto. It is the Bolts who have fallen asleep in two games and given up big leads, so they are the ones who are screwing up. By now, with a proper attitude, the Bolts would have won the series. In other words, Toronto is only on the verge of winning the series because the Bolts fell asleep in two games in which they had big leads; and not because Toronto is the better team; or an even match for the Bolts. As long as the Bolts keep their heads screwed on right, the Leafs have little chance of winning another game. If they do, it will be because the Bolts blew another one, not because the Leafs actually beat them. like I said, if Vasilevskiy plays in games 6 and 7 like he did in game 5, the loafs are toast.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 28, 2023 23:49:19 GMT -6
i've really liked this kid's game up until this. no embellishment call on the play of course, but in a situation like this...if an embellishment this obvious goes uncalled i think the league should fine the guy 5000 bucks or something like that (after review post game). it won't hurt his pocketbook, but do it enough times and you'll end up with a reputation of a "diver" which i would hope would deter most players. pretty sure the refs would be for it because i doubt nobody hates diving/embellishment in this league more than they do. Actually looking at the video, I'm not so sure it did not hit him in face. Although the handle hit Knies in the arm, the tip could have him in the chin. Also the reaction by Knies was in a split of a second. Usually, in case of embelishments, it takes at least 2 splits of a second when a player realizes he can gain some advantage. This appeared to me to occur reflexively... i should've looked closer at it before posting. after watching it about 20 times over and freeze-framing many many times as quick as i could, i have to say i stand corrected. i could've sworn that initially the shaft of the stick caught knies on his upper hip when in fact it was more like the shoulder. thnx for the correction. next time i'll try and decide for my own instead of allowing myself to be influenced by the surrounding text.
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