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Post by LordKOTL on Oct 14, 2023 19:47:00 GMT -6
Johnson doing good
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 14, 2023 19:47:32 GMT -6
YEP!
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Post by B-A-Hawk on Oct 14, 2023 19:47:55 GMT -6
Johnson making it interesting
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Post by phill9 on Oct 14, 2023 19:50:45 GMT -6
Connors been taking some lumps early in his career
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Post by tincup on Oct 14, 2023 19:52:24 GMT -6
Exciting at the end but played about 30 minutes maybe.
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 14, 2023 19:55:21 GMT -6
decent 3rd period (16-9 shots) but you're not going to get many points in this league playing just 1 period.
we'll get blasted if we play that way against the leaves.
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Post by higgyhawk on Oct 14, 2023 20:00:31 GMT -6
Good third period but lost it in the second period
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 14, 2023 22:51:11 GMT -6
This is just bad hockey now. The injuries to 2 key forwards in Hall and Kurashev really hurting right now. Too many forwards with redundant, or negligible, talents. Team has zero depth. That's my reaction after watching their "offense". Their forward pile is really not very skilled and won't be getting much better soon. But, I guess they are rebuilding. On the other hand, they really do put out a lot of effort and give it a good try. Even if they draft well again, it will be a long time before they get any really skilled forwards out there in any decent numbers.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Oct 14, 2023 23:24:45 GMT -6
Well the wife picked the right game to watch first. This team could loose to anyone and they are getting great goaltending. When RJ had the breakaway did anyone think he would score. Tonordi with a rough game. Guess #4 will be the new whipping boy on theses boards just dont get it. What did you want him to do on the shorthanded goal? He made the right read and attack the puck no one else could get back. Shit if it was him on the first goal this board would have gone nuts. All that being said still had a chance to get a point. Bloom better be ready Monday at least Im sure a Luke coached team is gonna stay together.
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 15, 2023 1:00:52 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 15, 2023 1:43:25 GMT -6
Well the wife picked the right game to watch first. This team could loose to anyone and they are getting great goaltending. When RJ had the breakaway did anyone think he would score. Tonordi with a rough game. Guess #4 will be the new whipping boy on theses boards just dont get it. What did you want him to do on the shorthanded goal? He made the right read and attack the puck no one else could get back. Shit if it was him on the first goal this board would have gone nuts. All that being said still had a chance to get a point. Bloom better be ready Monday at least Im sure a Luke coached team is gonna stay together. Jones isn't the whipping boy because of that play, it's because of that contract, thinking he's captain material, and the many bonehead plays he makes, especially on the PP.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 15, 2023 1:49:54 GMT -6
Another tough loss but these guys never quit, they're still figuring each other out and learning a lot. These games will only help down the road.
Vlasic and Korchinski look better than Jones and Murphy. On the 3rd goal Murphy didn't trust Korchinski and came to his side to attack and that left the guy on his side wide open. And Tinordi had a rough game with the puck, solid without it, but at least he's slotted properly as the #6 guy.
And Mrazek have up 3 but he looked solid.
Reichel is struggling and gripping his stick, hopefully he gets some points soon to get some confidence.
Lastly, great seeing Bedard extend his point streak to 3gms, he's a quick learner and he'll get his shot dialed in soon, might take longer on faceoffs.
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Post by Tater on Oct 15, 2023 2:19:38 GMT -6
Our Johnson was strong tonight.
At least they've been in it right up until the end of each loss so far, and came back to make it close.
ETA: I hope Vosters was watching the game and picked up some tips on how to call a game. Thing like saying the players names when describing the action, etc.
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Post by steamer on Oct 15, 2023 7:28:47 GMT -6
Our Johnson was strong tonight.
At least they've been in it right up until the end of each loss so far, and came back to make it close.
ETA: I hope Vosters was watching the game and picked up some tips on how to call a game. Thing like saying the players names when describing the action, etc.
Vosters did the game locally here in Chicago and he’s still a work in progress (maybe). Would definitely like to have John Scott in the booth. Pang is chatty - let him do the play by play . . .
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Post by steamer on Oct 15, 2023 7:37:24 GMT -6
Another tough loss but these guys never quit, they're still figuring each other out and learning a lot. These games will only help down the road. Vlasic and Korchinski look better than Jones and Murphy. On the 3rd goal Murphy didn't trust Korchinski and came to his side to attack and that left the guy on his side wide open. And Tinordi had a rough game with the puck, solid without it, but at least he's slotted properly as the #6 guy. And Mrazek have up 3 but he looked solid. Reichel is struggling and gripping his stick, hopefully he gets some points soon to get some confidence. Lastly, great seeing Bedard extend his point streak to 3gms, he's a quick learner and he'll get his shot dialed in soon, might take longer on faceoffs. Good comments about the current state of the team. I think you’re slightly tough on Seth but he isn’t playing his best hockey. I think more games will get the D more in sync as there is more trust in one another. Certainly Luke sees this too. As jacksalmon pointed out, they lack presence at forward and a few smaller guys are doing some heavy lifting which may not fly for an 82 game season.
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 15, 2023 8:00:55 GMT -6
Our Johnson was strong tonight.
At least they've been in it right up until the end of each loss so far, and came back to make it close.
ETA: I hope Vosters was watching the game and picked up some tips on how to call a game. Thing like saying the players names when describing the action, etc.
Vosters did the game locally here in Chicago and he’s still a work in progress (maybe). Would definitely like to have John Scott in the booth. Pang is chatty - let him do the play by play . . . i agree...chris vosters is a work in progress. and i agree....give big john a seat in the (tv) booth when pang is elsewhere just to keep ms. chelios out. but putting a lifetime color guy like pang, however chatty he is into the play by play chair...well, it would be interesting to see the result but i doubt it would work out. imo it's apples and oranges.
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Post by steamer on Oct 15, 2023 8:06:06 GMT -6
Vosters did the game locally here in Chicago and he’s still a work in progress (maybe). Would definitely like to have John Scott in the booth. Pang is chatty - let him do the play by play . . . i agree...chris vosters is a work in progress. and i agree....give big john a seat in the (tv) booth when pang is elsewhere just to keep ms. chelios out. but putting a lifetime color guy like pang, however chatty he is into the play by play chair...well, it would be interesting to see the result but i doubt it would work out. imo it's apples and oranges. Yeah you’re right. Maybe I’ll get used to Vosters/Pang. But more of Scott would be a +
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Post by Hockey is great on Oct 15, 2023 8:37:53 GMT -6
Enjoyable game. Ladies had their bedard jerseys on.
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 15, 2023 9:18:11 GMT -6
So, educate me please. If one could take the skills it takes to be a successful forward in the NHL and reduce them to numerical values, from what I've seen, the group of Hawk forwards, in aggregate would have a low total value. For example, the Hab group of forwards seemed to demonstrate more skill, as a group, than the Hawk group.
So, will the Hawk group improve; or is this a situation where they have limited skill levels and there won't be much improvement? Take Sidney Crosby and compare him to John Scott. We all would agree that Crosby has more skill than Scott and that Scott could never improve his skills enough to be a real offensive factor in the NHL. I know this is an extreme example, but I use it to make my point that some forwards simply have limited upside and that no amount of experience will ever turn them into 70 points per year guys. I think that the Hawks have a big group of such limited forwards. But, I am open to being educated on why I am wrong. Fire away!!!
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Post by hsbob on Oct 15, 2023 9:55:31 GMT -6
I don't remember who Reichel was out with last year when he had a nice but short stretch but I thought I recall some chemistry with Kurashev.....is that right? Or was he out with Kane and Domi? Bedard and Reichel are both youngsters who play the game fast,and AA's about the only guy on the team who can keep-up skating wise but I dunno what eles he really offers most of the time.
Play the two fast,young forwards together? Did Reichel line-up at center when played well last year? Would a stint on Bedard's wing for a while really hurt his development at center? Or does improved offensive production give the kid confidence? Many good NHL centers started out on the wing.
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Post by vadarx on Oct 15, 2023 10:30:24 GMT -6
I don't remember who Reichel was out with last year when he had a nice but short stretch but I thought I recall some chemistry with Kurashev.....is that right? Or was he out with Kane and Domi? Bedard and Reichel are both youngsters who play the game fast,and AA's about the only guy on the team who can keep-up skating wise but I dunno what eles he really offers most of the time. Play the two fast,young forwards together? Did Reichel line-up at center when played well last year? Would a stint on Bedard's wing for a while really hurt his development at center? Or does improved offensive production give the kid confidence? Many good NHL centers started out on the wing. I believe it was AA and Kurashev he played with last year. I have to believe that line gets reunited whenever Kurashev is back.
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Post by LordKOTL on Oct 15, 2023 11:40:52 GMT -6
Another tough loss but these guys never quit, they're still figuring each other out and learning a lot. These games will only help down the road. Vlasic and Korchinski look better than Jones and Murphy. On the 3rd goal Murphy didn't trust Korchinski and came to his side to attack and that left the guy on his side wide open. And Tinordi had a rough game with the puck, solid without it, but at least he's slotted properly as the #6 guy. And Mrazek have up 3 but he looked solid. Reichel is struggling and gripping his stick, hopefully he gets some points soon to get some confidence. Lastly, great seeing Bedard extend his point streak to 3gms, he's a quick learner and he'll get his shot dialed in soon, might take longer on faceoffs. Good comments about the current state of the team. I think you’re slightly tough on Seth but he isn’t playing his best hockey. I think more games will get the D more in sync as there is more trust in one another. Certainly Luke sees this too. As jacksalmon pointed out, they lack presence at forward and a few smaller guys are doing some heavy lifting which may not fly for an 82 game season. Maybe, but realistically with Jones, would he be a part of the core of not for that contract? No, or at least not yet; he'd be a fill-in player, not a foundation player. Think Campbell, not Keith. That being said, if a kid shows they have more aptitude than him, the kids should have a chance over him. Hence why Korch deserve a shot on PP1 over him. Plus, he's far enough in his career that the coaching staff could say, "you want to be on the #1 PP? Start playing better and stop being a liability." If he starts playing like a 9.5M player who earned wearing a letter, then he should be a top guy and a core member. Right now though? He's not playing like a leader or a guy who should be in our future plans.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Oct 15, 2023 11:52:09 GMT -6
I don't remember who Reichel was out with last year when he had a nice but short stretch but I thought I recall some chemistry with Kurashev.....is that right? Or was he out with Kane and Domi? Bedard and Reichel are both youngsters who play the game fast,and AA's about the only guy on the team who can keep-up skating wise but I dunno what eles he really offers most of the time. Play the two fast,young forwards together? Did Reichel line-up at center when played well last year? Would a stint on Bedard's wing for a while really hurt his development at center? Or does improved offensive production give the kid confidence? Many good NHL centers started out on the wing. I believe it was AA and Kurashev he played with last year. I have to believe that line gets reunited whenever Kurashev is back. Speaking of Kurashev - has anyone seen an update on when he might return - it's going on 3 weeks since he played in a game. I know the Hawks are loathe to talk about injuries - but c'mon.
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Post by steamer on Oct 15, 2023 11:55:54 GMT -6
Hoping Kurashev’s return suddenly squares away the line combos and ignites scoring. Have to say I’m a bit skeptical - still need to see more out of him.
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