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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 23, 2023 21:44:22 GMT -6
Give the Blues credit I guess but the refs started the come back Good teams win in spite of the tedious interference of the officials. We ain't a good team in any stretch of the imagination, but bad officials are never an excuse. See Also: 2013 playoffs vs Detroit. |
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Post by cudaman on Dec 23, 2023 21:46:17 GMT -6
Bedard’s highlight goal will always be tied to the game that they gave away in the third.
Worst 20 minute effort I can remember to blow a game
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Dec 23, 2023 21:49:15 GMT -6
Brutal loss, even with the lack of talent on this team, giving up 5 goals in the third, again inexcusable.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 23, 2023 21:49:24 GMT -6
I know most dont agree but #4 is missed you dont loose someone that playes 25 min a game and it does not matter. What a collapse I cant believe this shit happened Vets kids everyone got involved in giving this game away. Merry Christmas to all enjoy your time with love ones wish I had a body bag in the garage.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Dec 23, 2023 21:50:23 GMT -6
They should've pulled Soder after they went up 5:2.
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 23, 2023 22:44:15 GMT -6
Missed them all due to a holiday get-together ending. this one was alright. i wonder how many of those he scored in junior. i don't recall seeing one, it couldn't be his first could it? That was fabulous. I was surprised, though, that he wasn't called for traveling. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 23, 2023 22:48:59 GMT -6
Getting outshot 22-2 is inexcusable. This isn’t the Tampa Bay Lightning in their prime we’re playing. Unfortunately, the lack of talent comes back to bite them when you least expect it, or even when you do expect it. Outshot 22-2 truly demonstrates the lack of talent. One can't say it was a lack of effort, given the overall play and the number of goals scored. They just can't figure out some of the fundamentals of the game. One would think that Foligno would know better than to try that cross ice pass that led to the empty netter. That was a foolish pass, but he was trying to get it to Bedard. It's about time to recognize that the Hawk dmen are not that good. Maybe they'll improve, but, right now, they simply are not that good. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 23, 2023 22:51:27 GMT -6
I know most dont agree but #4 is missed you dont loose someone that playes 25 min a game and it does not matter. What a collapse I cant believe this shit happened Vets kids everyone got involved in giving this game away. Merry Christmas to all enjoy your time with love ones wish I had a body bag in the garage. Yeah, I do believe that Jones would have somehow prevented one or more of those third period goals. The rookie dmen just gave them away like Xmas presents. Here you got, little Blue, have another goal. Merry Christmas, St. Louis, from the Hawk dmen. |
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Post by malagahawks on Dec 24, 2023 1:35:10 GMT -6
E This better be their waking up in a back alley by a dumpster with no memory rock bottom moment. Just saw the utterly disgusting highlights that had me in a cold sweat going back to the clueless Colliton years we just survived. Total lack of fight, execution, and everything else after they went up 5-2. That has to be the most horrendous meltdown I've seen of this team under Richardson. The Dmen & Soda were just lost and overwhelmed. During the brutal meltdown: Outscored 5-0, outshot 22-2, out-everythinged!! TOTAL DUMPTER FIRE. That said, Merry Christmas all.  |
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Post by Tater on Dec 24, 2023 2:59:14 GMT -6
I put a good bit of blame on the coaching. Between periods, John Scott said he'd like to see them ease up and play more defensively (bend don't break). I hate when that is done and it never seems to work. After taking it to the Blews early with a hard fore-check and pinning them in their own end, they just dumped it in and sent only one guy in, sometimes two. I know sometimes it was due to a line change but it happened every single time in the third.
The Blews just carries the puck right back out to the Hawks end and kept it there way too long. Hardy got a decent shot off the whole period.
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Post by malagahawks on Dec 24, 2023 4:31:01 GMT -6
We at a bare minimum 1 or 2 strong drafts away from starting a winning season, with hopefully a matching culture.
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Post by BigT on Dec 24, 2023 8:27:14 GMT -6
We have to realize that the Hawks are missing half a roster right now. I know it’s tough but the team will be better. And will be this year. But gotta get guys back. Remember games like tonight when the Hawks are rising up. It’s good we have a Bedard to watch!!!
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Dec 24, 2023 8:29:11 GMT -6
I know most dont agree but #4 is missed you dont loose someone that playes 25 min a game and it does not matter. What a collapse I cant believe this shit happened Vets kids everyone got involved in giving this game away. Merry Christmas to all enjoy your time with love ones wish I had a body bag in the garage. I agree with you, Losing Seth and Vlasic really show the inefficiency on the backend. Jones may not be Duncan Keith but his 25mins is valued. A veteran presence, keep the kids of the ice when things start to unravel. Once the opposition starts applying a ton of pressure are defenders fold like a cheap lawn chair. Yes Soderblom let in some stinkers, but 22 shots, and 5 goals in 10mins. The other thing that is really getting to me about this team, is the lack of backchecking, guys coasting out there like this is the 2013 version of the Hawks, boars battles are weak, getting manhandled. This team needs to wake up, I don’t care if they lost, it’s how they lost and that’s on everyone including the damn coaches. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Dec 24, 2023 8:37:07 GMT -6
Getting outshot 22-2 is inexcusable. This isn’t the Tampa Bay Lightning in their prime we’re playing. Unfortunately, the lack of talent comes back to bite them when you least expect it, or even when you do expect it. Outshot 22-2 truly demonstrates the lack of talent. One can't say it was a lack of effort, given the overall play and the number of goals scored. They just can't figure out some of the fundamentals of the game. One would think that Foligno would know better than to try that cross ice pass that led to the empty netter. That was a foolish pass, but he was trying to get it to Bedard. It's about to recognize that the Hawk dmen are not that good. Maybe they'll improve, but, right now, they simply are not that good. Jack you are right, the defenders aren’t that good. They need a lot of development but right now with Seth and Vlasic out it really shows how depleted the team is and how much learning is needed for major improvements. If the Hawks don’t win the draft lottery for Celebrini I would like them to draft that Russia tank on the backend, don’t know his name off hand but he looks like the real deal. |
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Post by BigT on Dec 24, 2023 9:31:11 GMT -6
Unfortunately, the lack of talent comes back to bite them when you least expect it, or even when you do expect it. Outshot 22-2 truly demonstrates the lack of talent. One can't say it was a lack of effort, given the overall play and the number of goals scored. They just can't figure out some of the fundamentals of the game. One would think that Foligno would know better than to try that cross ice pass that led to the empty netter. That was a foolish pass, but he was trying to get it to Bedard. It's about to recognize that the Hawk dmen are not that good. Maybe they'll improve, but, right now, they simply are not that good. Jack you are right, the defenders aren’t that good. They need a lot of development but right now with Seth and Vlasic out it really shows how depleted the team is and how much learning is needed for major improvements. If the Hawks don’t win the draft lottery for Celebrini I would like them to draft that Russia tank on the backend, don’t know his name off hand but he looks like the real deal. You are correct HiM. Losing those 2 has been a massive loss on the backend. What else could the Hawks have done? Sign 6 vet Dmen and not give the kids a shot? With Seth, Zaitsev, Murphy, Tinordi. That should be enough vet presence back there. But with half of them on the shelf, and 2 others injured. Not many if any team(s) are that deep. I also think that kid you mentioned the T-90 tank. Might be the game changer we need!!! |
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Post by steamer on Dec 24, 2023 10:21:42 GMT -6
Watching the last two games left a taste on my mouth like eating a shit sandwich. But when Murphy is your #1 D-man and an 18 year old is your #1 forward I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Luke does need to get after some of the forwards who stop backchecking once the opponents enter the neutral zone. Once Seth and Vlasic return things should improve. If a depleted, low skilled team like the Hawks blow leads it is terrible but we are seeing playoff calibre teams with lots of highly paid guys doing the same. Doesn’t help the Hawks but just sayin’ . . .
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 24, 2023 12:12:47 GMT -6
This better be their waking up in a back alley by a dumpster with no memory rock bottom moment. I would have added, "with their hands down Jim Belushi's pants", but I like the cut of your jib. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 24, 2023 12:24:01 GMT -6
I know most dont agree but #4 is missed you dont loose someone that playes 25 min a game and it does not matter. What a collapse I cant believe this shit happened Vets kids everyone got involved in giving this game away. Merry Christmas to all enjoy your time with love ones wish I had a body bag in the garage. I'm not so glib to think we aren't missing Jones (he's a number of steps above everone else not named Vlassic in the backend); we are missing him. But given the complete clusterfuckery in playing with the lead form LR on down, the only #4 saving the past game for us is maybe...*maybe* prime Hjalmarsson. I think we don't lose as-bad with Jones, Vlassic, or Jones and Vlassic back in the lineup, but we still lose. The play was just that bad. That being said, this is on everyone. Goalie, FWDs, D, and coaching. Kinda hoping they all get some Preparation H in their stockings to alleviate the pounding they gave themselves in the 3rd. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Dec 24, 2023 12:37:07 GMT -6
I know most dont agree but #4 is missed you dont loose someone that playes 25 min a game and it does not matter. What a collapse I cant believe this shit happened Vets kids everyone got involved in giving this game away. Merry Christmas to all enjoy your time with love ones wish I had a body bag in the garage. I'm not so glib to think we aren't missing Jones (he's a number of steps above everone else not named Vlassic in the backend); we are missing him. But given the complete clusterfuckery in playing with the lead form LR on down, the only #4 saving the past game for us is maybe...*maybe* prime Hjalmarsson. I think we don't lose as-bad with Jones, Vlassic, or Jones and Vlassic back in the lineup, but we still lose. The play was just that bad. That being said, this is on everyone. Goalie, FWDs, D, and coaching. Kinda hoping they all get some Preparation H in their stockings to alleviate the pounding they gave themselves in the 3rd. I don’t know where you come up with some of your lines, but that Preparation H saying is friggin hilarious, and yes, the entire team is at fault for last night’s debacle. |
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Post by tincup on Dec 24, 2023 14:47:13 GMT -6
I know most dont agree but #4 is missed you dont loose someone that playes 25 min a game and it does not matter. What a collapse I cant believe this shit happened Vets kids everyone got involved in giving this game away. Merry Christmas to all enjoy your time with love ones wish I had a body bag in That being said, this is on everyone. Goalie, FWDs, D, and coaching. Kinda hoping they all get some Preparation H in their stockings to alleviate the pounding they gave themselves in the 3rd. And coaching… |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 24, 2023 15:17:45 GMT -6
I'm not so glib to think we aren't missing Jones (he's a number of steps above everone else not named Vlassic in the backend); we are missing him. But given the complete clusterfuckery in playing with the lead form LR on down, the only #4 saving the past game for us is maybe...*maybe* prime Hjalmarsson. I think we don't lose as-bad with Jones, Vlassic, or Jones and Vlassic back in the lineup, but we still lose. The play was just that bad. That being said, this is on everyone. Goalie, FWDs, D, and coaching. Kinda hoping they all get some Preparation H in their stockings to alleviate the pounding they gave themselves in the 3rd. I don’t know where you come up with some of your lines, but that Preparation H saying is friggin hilarious, and yes, the entire team is at fault for last night’s debacle. *takes a bow* My wife jokes that I am not just a husband, but a lifelong case study. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 24, 2023 15:19:14 GMT -6
That being said, this is on everyone. Goalie, FWDs, D, and coaching. Kinda hoping they all get some Preparation H in their stockings to alleviate the pounding they gave themselves in the 3rd. And coaching… Exactly. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 26, 2023 20:07:27 GMT -6
Well took a couple days off. While in my whining state thought of wearing the brown paper bag to tomorrows game that has passed. Accountability needs to start with this team and I have enjoyed what most have said here. I want Luke to take a good amount of this, that was an epic collapse that he did nothing on time for him to step to the mic and take some responsibility!
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