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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 1, 2024 3:06:55 GMT -6
i missed the first half so maybe the refs made bad calls that i didn't know about... but i have to say i'm still a bit disappointed to read that. He was upset about the penalty on him and a couple slashes missed oh well |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 1, 2024 6:18:43 GMT -6
said the same thing to my daughter when it happened. A very frustrated 98 all game long any time he skated by stripes he had something to say weather linesman or Ref. Game could not end soon enough. My womans B-day Saturday so gave away tickets so that should mean a hawks win. Hall and AA will not add too much gotta get the kid some help in the off season. i missed the first half so maybe the refs made bad calls that i didn't know about... but i have to say i'm still a bit disappointed to read that. They missed a lot, one play an Ave literally wrapped both arms around him and when they got to the bench Raddysh had a tablet and they watched it, Bedard was pissed. But slashing him in the arms, especially the wrist, and the refs looking at him but not calling anything is garbage. Yeah the PP sucks but guys are getting away with dirty plays that could break bones. It's time to get Beauvillier away from Bedard, he doesn't intimidated anyone and teams are taking liberties with Connor. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 1, 2024 8:21:14 GMT -6
He was upset about the penalty on him and a couple slashes missed oh well That action is just another one that qualifies for criminal prosecution. I guess law enforcement officials are not only chicken shit assholes in Canada. They are in Chicago also. What is the point of a random act of violence that has nothing but an intent to injure a player behind it. Why not prosecute a criminal act that has no other explanation for its occurrence? One of the Hawk officials should have asked for criminal prosecution and then made an issue of it when the Chicago cops told them to fuck off. Of course, the refs didn't see it; or chose to ignore. Also, of course, despite this video being available, the fucked-up league will not pursue Manson for a 10 game suspension. This league continues to prove to me that it is even more fucked up than I have thought it is. Bedard should have slashed the ref instead of just giving him verbal shit. If more players would start slashing refs for blatant missed calls, perhaps there would be justice rendered on the ice by those striped assholes. Also, where were the enforcers on this weak-ass Hawk team who let Manson get away with trying to break Bedard's arm. They should have been on his ass in less than one second, even if it meant coming over boards and incurring a match penalty. That was a time to show the fucking Avs and the rest of the league that if the local law enforecment officials and the refs are not going to protect players they will take matters into their own hands, no matter the cost. Are they going to let the assholes of this league criminally assault Bedard on a continual basis? What will happen as the team gets better and he is the source of the energy for that transformation. It is time to show the league and its moronic coaches that they are not going to allow that sort of shit to be done to their star. Why didn't Richardson tell one of his players to go get Manson, either on the ice or drag the asshole over his boards to get what he had coming to him? Take your pick: Chicago cops; league refs; league officials; or the chicken shit Hawk bench. They are all fucked up. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 1, 2024 9:35:40 GMT -6
That action is just another one that qualifies for criminal prosecution. I guess law enforcement officials are not only chicken shit assholes in Canada. They are in Chicago also. What is the point of a random act of violence that has nothing but an intent to injure a player behind it. Of course, the refs didn't see it; or chose to ignore. Also, of course, despite this video being available, the fucked-up league will not puruse Manson for a 10 game suspension. This league continues to prove to me that it is even more fucked up than I have thought it is. Bedard should have slashed the ref instead of just giving him verbal shit. If more players would start slashing refs for blatant missed calls, perhaps there would be justice rendered on the ice by those striped assholes. Also, where were the enforcers on this weak-ass Hawk team who let Manson get away with trying to break Bedard's arm. They should have been on his ass in less than one second, even if it meant coming over boards and incurring a match penalty. That was a time to show the fucking Avs and the rest of the league that if the local law enforecment officials and the refs are not going to protect players they will take matters into their own hands, no matter the cost. Why didn't Richardson tell one of his players to go get Manson, either on the ice or drag the asshole over his boards to get what he had coming to him? Take your pick: Chicago cops; league refs; league officials; or the chicken shit Hawk bench. They are all fucked up. Lysiak? |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 1, 2024 9:38:55 GMT -6
That action is just another one that qualifies for criminal prosecution. I guess law enforcement officials are not only chicken shit assholes in Canada. They are in Chicago also. What is the point of a random act of violence that has nothing but an intent to injure a player behind it. Of course, the refs didn't see it; or chose to ignore. Also, of course, despite this video being available, the fucked-up league will not puruse Manson for a 10 game suspension. This league continues to prove to me that it is even more fucked up than I have thought it is. Bedard should have slashed the ref instead of just giving him verbal shit. If more players would start slashing refs for blatant missed calls, perhaps there would be justice rendered on the ice by those striped assholes. Also, where were the enforcers on this weak-ass Hawk team who let Manson get away with trying to break Bedard's arm. They should have been on his ass in less than one second, even if it meant coming over boards and incurring a match penalty. That was a time to show the fucking Avs and the rest of the league that if the local law enforecment officials and the refs are not going to protect players they will take matters into their own hands, no matter the cost. Why didn't Richardson tell one of his players to go get Manson, either on the ice or drag the asshole over his boards to get what he had coming to him? Take your pick: Chicago cops; league refs; league officials; or the chicken shit Hawk bench. They are all fucked up. Lysiak? Who is that and why do you mention his name? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 1, 2024 13:34:57 GMT -6
Who is that and why do you mention his name? You don't remember Tom Lysiak? Hawk center who got fed up with some bad officiating and at a faceoff he tripped the linesman from behind. 20 game suspension. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 1, 2024 14:00:48 GMT -6
Who is that and why do you mention his name? You don't remember Tom Lysiak? Hawk center who got fed up with some bad officiating and at a faceoff he tripped the linesman from behind. 20 game suspension. I remember Lysiak as a bad boy. I didn't remember the tripping incident. So, hell yeah, bring him back on a short contract. But, more realistically, it is also almost unbelievable that this fucked up league would not want to protect one of its prime assets even more. Bedard will keep the viewership up for years on that fat ESPN contract. So, why not protect the scrawny superstar and punish assholes like Manson. How would it be if he had broken Bedard's arm? This league is so fucked up. Tell me what would happen in the NFL if some defensive linesman kicked Mahomes in his lower right arm. That mfer would be suspended and fined without any mercy. Here, Manson gets league accolades for focusing in on one of Bedard's prime assets---his right arm. The NHL is a totally fucked up organization as are the Hawks. Were they afraid that if they had gone full tilt after Manson that they weren't going to be able to catch up in the game and would lose ground in the chase for the playoffs? So, what would have been wrong for taking after Manson with full vengeance to send the league a message not to fuck around with Bedard. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper. Christsake, even the mfing Bible says to protect Bedard. This franchise should change its name from the Hawks to the sparrows with a small s. |
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Post by Nikos on Mar 1, 2024 16:09:14 GMT -6
You don't remember Tom Lysiak? Hawk center who got fed up with some bad officiating and at a faceoff he tripped the linesman from behind. 20 game suspension. I remember Lysiak as a bad boy. I didn't remember the tripping incident. So, hell yeah, bring him back on a short contract.
But, more realistically, it is also almost unbelievable that this fucked up league would not want to protect one of its prime assets even more. Bedard will keep the viewership up for years on that fat ESPN contract. So, why not protect the scrawny superstar and punish assholes like Manson. How would it be if he had broken Bedard's arm? This league is so fucked up. Tell me what would happen in the NFL if some defensive linesman kicked Mahomes in his lower right arm. That mfer would be suspended and fined without any mercy. Here, Manson gets league accolades for focusing in on one of Bedard's prime assets---his right arm. The NHL is a totally fucked up organization as are the Hawks. Were they afraid that if they had gone full tilt after Manson that they weren't going to be able to catch up in the game and would lose ground in the chase for the playoffs? So, what would have been wrong for taking after Manson with full vengeance to send the league a message not to fuck around with Bedard. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper. Christsake, even the mfing Bible says to protect Bedard. This franchise should change its name from the Hawks to the sparrows with a small s. Sorry Jack, Tom Lysiak is not available, he passed away from cancer in 2016, RIP Tom. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Mar 1, 2024 16:23:30 GMT -6
You don't remember Tom Lysiak? Hawk center who got fed up with some bad officiating and at a faceoff he tripped the linesman from behind. 20 game suspension. I remember Lysiak as a bad boy. I didn't remember the tripping incident. So, hell yeah, bring him back on a short contract. But, more realistically, it is also almost unbelievable that this fucked up league would not want to protect one of its prime assets even more. Bedard will keep the viewership up for years on that fat ESPN contract. So, why not protect the scrawny superstar and punish assholes like Manson. How would it be if he had broken Bedard's arm? This league is so fucked up. Tell me what would happen in the NFL if some defensive linesman kicked Mahomes in his lower right arm. That mfer would be suspended and fined without any mercy. Here, Manson gets league accolades for focusing in on one of Bedard's prime assets---his right arm. The NHL is a totally fucked up organization as are the Hawks. Were they afraid that if they had gone full tilt after Manson that they weren't going to be able to catch up in the game and would lose ground in the chase for the playoffs? So, what would have been wrong for taking after Manson with full vengeance to send the league a message not to fuck around with Bedard. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper. Christsake, even the mfing Bible says to protect Bedard. This franchise should change its name from the Hawks to the sparrows with a small s. This quote is from Pulp Fiction, it's not in the bible. Samuel Jackson made it up. However, I am all in favor on taking a Pulp Fictionesque approach on Mason: www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/quotes/?item=qt0447123&ref_=ext_shr_lnk |
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 1, 2024 19:49:20 GMT -6
i missed the first half so maybe the refs made bad calls that i didn't know about... but i have to say i'm still a bit disappointed to read that. He was upset about the penalty on him and a couple slashes missed oh well i should clarify that when i said i was a bit disappointed in him complaining to anyone wearing stripes...i was just hoping that it wouldn't become a common occurrence. reading the comments here and on twitter it seems he had a legit gripe that game. you've seen him live more than anyone here so i was wondering if this game was a "one off"? or does he complain to the refs more than he should. i got a feeling he let his frustration get the best of him a little bit but just curious on your take on him. seeing him live you'd get a way better sense of it compared to watching on tv. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 1, 2024 21:19:27 GMT -6
He was upset about the penalty on him and a couple slashes missed oh well i should clarify that when i said i was a bit disappointed in him complaining to anyone wearing stripes...i was just hoping that it wouldn't become a common occurrence. reading the comments here and on twitter it seems he had a legit gripe that game. you've seen him live more than anyone here so i was wondering if this game was a "one off"? or does he complain to the refs more than he should. i got a feeling he let his frustration get the best of him a little bit but just curious on your take on him. seeing him live you'd get a way better sense of it compared to watching on tv. Just a one off thats why I mentioned it. He will do that Kane thing where he looks at the ref for a second, but I think he is just working the refs. Manson was playing with him a good amount think frustrations just boiled over nothing to worry about. Another take away from the kid is when there was like 12 min left in game as everyone is going through the motions that kid wants a goal comes on the ice with jump. So long answer nothing to worry about JMO. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 1, 2024 21:26:46 GMT -6
i should clarify that when i said i was a bit disappointed in him complaining to anyone wearing stripes...i was just hoping that it wouldn't become a common occurrence. reading the comments here and on twitter it seems he had a legit gripe that game. you've seen him live more than anyone here so i was wondering if this game was a "one off"? or does he complain to the refs more than he should. i got a feeling he let his frustration get the best of him a little bit but just curious on your take on him. seeing him live you'd get a way better sense of it compared to watching on tv. Just a one off thats why I mentioned it. He will do that Kane thing where he looks at the ref for a second, but I think he is just working the refs. Manson was playing with him a good amount think frustrations just boiled over nothing to worry about. Another take away from the kid is when there was like 12 min left in game as everyone is going through the motions that kid wants a goal comes on the ice with jump. So long answer nothing to worry about JMO. appreciated, mate. that's what i was hoping to hear. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 2, 2024 8:02:29 GMT -6
I remember Lysiak as a bad boy. I didn't remember the tripping incident. So, hell yeah, bring him back on a short contract.
But, more realistically, it is also almost unbelievable that this fucked up league would not want to protect one of its prime assets even more. Bedard will keep the viewership up for years on that fat ESPN contract. So, why not protect the scrawny superstar and punish assholes like Manson. How would it be if he had broken Bedard's arm? This league is so fucked up. Tell me what would happen in the NFL if some defensive linesman kicked Mahomes in his lower right arm. That mfer would be suspended and fined without any mercy. Here, Manson gets league accolades for focusing in on one of Bedard's prime assets---his right arm. The NHL is a totally fucked up organization as are the Hawks. Were they afraid that if they had gone full tilt after Manson that they weren't going to be able to catch up in the game and would lose ground in the chase for the playoffs? So, what would have been wrong for taking after Manson with full vengeance to send the league a message not to fuck around with Bedard. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper. Christsake, even the mfing Bible says to protect Bedard. This franchise should change its name from the Hawks to the sparrows with a small s. Sorry Jack, Tom Lysiak is not available, he passed away from cancer in 2016, RIP Tom. Ok, too bad, but do the sparrows have no one on the team that could have been sent out to nail Manson? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 2, 2024 10:51:18 GMT -6
Sorry Jack, Tom Lysiak is not available, he passed away from cancer in 2016, RIP Tom. Ok, too bad, but do the sparrows have no one on the team that could have been sent out to nail Manson? Bedard should have chopped him back harder than he was hit. Let the league know you will defend yourself. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 2, 2024 15:04:30 GMT -6
I remember Lysiak as a bad boy. I didn't remember the tripping incident. So, hell yeah, bring him back on a short contract. But, more realistically, it is also almost unbelievable that this fucked up league would not want to protect one of its prime assets even more. Bedard will keep the viewership up for years on that fat ESPN contract. So, why not protect the scrawny superstar and punish assholes like Manson. How would it be if he had broken Bedard's arm? This league is so fucked up. Tell me what would happen in the NFL if some defensive linesman kicked Mahomes in his lower right arm. That mfer would be suspended and fined without any mercy. Here, Manson gets league accolades for focusing in on one of Bedard's prime assets---his right arm. The NHL is a totally fucked up organization as are the Hawks. Were they afraid that if they had gone full tilt after Manson that they weren't going to be able to catch up in the game and would lose ground in the chase for the playoffs? So, what would have been wrong for taking after Manson with full vengeance to send the league a message not to fuck around with Bedard. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper. Christsake, even the mfing Bible says to protect Bedard. This franchise should change its name from the Hawks to the sparrows with a small s. This quote is from Pulp Fiction, it's not in the bible. Samuel Jackson made it up. However, I am all in favor on taking a Pulp Fictionesque approach on Mason: www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/quotes/?item=qt0447123&ref_=ext_shr_lnkI knew that, but I did not think that anyone would take my comment so literally in a situation where I was using Jackson's speech to give Biblical justification to crushing Manson. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 2, 2024 15:07:01 GMT -6
Ok, too bad, but do the sparrows have no one on the team that could have been sent out to nail Manson? Bedard should have chopped him back harder than he was hit. Let the league know you will defend yourself. Well, that is one approach, but I doubt that the sparrows would want their star forward of slight build getting into a fist fight with a bad old dman who would love the chance to bust his jaw again and give him a concussion. That is why I suggested sending out the baddest sparrow to take on Mr. Manson either on the ice; or after dragging his ass over the boards. But, if you prefer Bedard fighting his own battles, so be it. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 2, 2024 15:27:01 GMT -6
Bedard should have chopped him back harder than he was hit. Let the league know you will defend yourself. Well, that is one approach, but I doubt that the sparrows would want their star forward of slight built getting into a fist fight with a bad old dman who would love the chance to bust his jaw again and give him a concussion. That is why I suggested sending out the baddest sparrow to take on Mr. Manson either on the ice; or after dragging his ass over the boards. But, if you prefer Bedard fighting his own battles, so be it. There is nobody on this team that has enough invested in the team to do that. All of these players have been told they are not important cant expect them to go above and beyond. Couple more years the youngsters will jump on anyone |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 2, 2024 16:20:08 GMT -6
Well, that is one approach, but I doubt that the sparrows would want their star forward of slight built getting into a fist fight with a bad old dman who would love the chance to bust his jaw again and give him a concussion. That is why I suggested sending out the baddest sparrow to take on Mr. Manson either on the ice; or after dragging his ass over the boards. But, if you prefer Bedard fighting his own battles, so be it. There is nobody on this team that has enough invested in the team to do that. All of these players have been told they are not important cant expect them to go above and beyond. Couple more years the youngsters will jump on anyone What you say may well be true as is the appearance that the fucked up league ain't gonna protect Bedard. So, in the meantime, he will have to protect himself and fight his own battles to show the opponents that he will not take their shit. Guys like Manson can take their shots at Bedard and know that they will not pay for their actions with a debt to the criminal law of the jurisdiction where the game takes place; to the league via suspension/fines; or to the "enforcers" of the Chicago sparrows, since there are none. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Mar 2, 2024 19:12:19 GMT -6
Bedard should have chopped him back harder than he was hit. Let the league know you will defend yourself. Well, that is one approach, but I doubt that the sparrows would want their star forward of slight build getting into a fist fight with a bad old dman who would love the chance to bust his jaw again and give him a concussion. That is why I suggested sending out the baddest sparrow to take on Mr. Manson either on the ice; or after dragging his ass over the boards. But, if you prefer Bedard fighting his own battles, so be it. Kane did that to the other #7 his rookie year. Chelios cross-checked him about 7 times. Kane got him back and got the retaliation penalty. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Mar 3, 2024 7:51:12 GMT -6
Well, that is one approach, but I doubt that the sparrows would want their star forward of slight build getting into a fist fight with a bad old dman who would love the chance to bust his jaw again and give him a concussion. That is why I suggested sending out the baddest sparrow to take on Mr. Manson either on the ice; or after dragging his ass over the boards. But, if you prefer Bedard fighting his own battles, so be it. Kane did that to the other #7 his rookie year. Chelios cross-checked him about 7 times. Kane got him back and got the retaliation penalty. Yeah, but with the fucked up team the sparrows are, it would not make any difference in outcome if Bedard got a few retaliation penalties for protecting himself when the refs won't do their job. |
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Post by hsbob on Mar 3, 2024 14:10:14 GMT -6
There is nobody on this team that has enough invested in the team to do that. All of these players have been told they are not important cant expect them to go above and beyond. Couple more years the youngsters will jump on anyone What you say may well be true as is the appearance that the fucked up league ain't gonna protect Bedard. So, in the meantime, he will have to protect himself and fight his own battles to show the opponents that he will not take their shit. Guys like Manson can take their shots at Bedard and know that they will not pay for their actions with a debt to the criminal law of the jurisdiction where the game takes place; to the league via suspension/fines; or to the "enforcers" of the Chicago sparrows, since there are none. You know I'm not afraid to criticize,but I thought the team's reaction to the hit that resulted in Bedard's broken jaw was pretty thorough myself. Foligno in particular has been very vigilant in coming to his and other teammate's aid IMO.....Tinordi too. The 'chop above the glove',ala Thornton/Bollig,or the dreaded 'cup-check',or the slash against the unprotected back of the leg or the cross-check to the unprotected back in front of the net all hurt like hell but rarely result in serious injury. 'In-kind' retaliation usually follows. You've followed the game a long time jack,wouldn't you agree it was even more violent years ago? |
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Post by Granada on Mar 4, 2024 11:31:09 GMT -6
That action is just another one that qualifies for criminal prosecution. I guess law enforcement officials are not only chicken shit assholes in Canada. They are in Chicago also. What is the point of a random act of violence that has nothing but an intent to injure a player behind it. Why not prosecute a criminal act that has no other explanation for its occurrence? One of the Hawk officials should have asked for criminal prosecution and then made an issue of it when the Chicago cops told them to fuck off. Of course, the refs didn't see it; or chose to ignore. Also, of course, despite this video being available, the fucked-up league will not pursue Manson for a 10 game suspension. This league continues to prove to me that it is even more fucked up than I have thought it is. Bedard should have slashed the ref instead of just giving him verbal shit. If more players would start slashing refs for blatant missed calls, perhaps there would be justice rendered on the ice by those striped assholes. Also, where were the enforcers on this weak-ass Hawk team who let Manson get away with trying to break Bedard's arm. They should have been on his ass in less than one second, even if it meant coming over boards and incurring a match penalty. That was a time to show the fucking Avs and the rest of the league that if the local law enforecment officials and the refs are not going to protect players they will take matters into their own hands, no matter the cost. Are they going to let the assholes of this league criminally assault Bedard on a continual basis? What will happen as the team gets better and he is the source of the energy for that transformation. It is time to show the league and its moronic coaches that they are not going to allow that sort of shit to be done to their star. Why didn't Richardson tell one of his players to go get Manson, either on the ice or drag the asshole over his boards to get what he had coming to him? Take your pick: Chicago cops; league refs; league officials; or the chicken shit Hawk bench. They are all fucked up. Dude, just stop. You sound like a Canuck fan. |
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Post by Granada on Mar 4, 2024 11:33:09 GMT -6
i missed the first half so maybe the refs made bad calls that i didn't know about... but i have to say i'm still a bit disappointed to read that. They missed a lot, one play an Ave literally wrapped both arms around him and when they got to the bench Raddysh had a tablet and they watched it, Bedard was pissed. But slashing him in the arms, especially the wrist, and the refs looking at him but not calling anything is garbage. Yeah the PP sucks but guys are getting away with dirty plays that could break bones. It's time to get Beauvillier away from Bedard, he doesn't intimidated anyone and teams are taking liberties with Connor. I feel like Beuvillier's looked like shit ever since he was acquired. Hawks should have definitely responded when Bedard got slashed. This is why Davidson's first choice was Lucic before Foligno. |
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Post by Nikos on Mar 4, 2024 12:07:30 GMT -6
They missed a lot, one play an Ave literally wrapped both arms around him and when they got to the bench Raddysh had a tablet and they watched it, Bedard was pissed. But slashing him in the arms, especially the wrist, and the refs looking at him but not calling anything is garbage. Yeah the PP sucks but guys are getting away with dirty plays that could break bones. It's time to get Beauvillier away from Bedard, he doesn't intimidated anyone and teams are taking liberties with Connor. I feel like Beuvillier's looked like shit ever since he was acquired. Hawks should have definitely responded when Bedard got slashed. This is why Davidson's first choice was Lucic before Foligno. Beauvillier was a mistake by KD, he allowed Vancouver to free up some cap space to acquire Zadorov and recently Lindholm by not only taking the full cap hit and then compounding this by also sending them a draft pick. I for one like that we have Foligno, ask Brendan Smith. |
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Post by Granada on Mar 4, 2024 12:17:02 GMT -6
I feel like Beuvillier's looked like shit ever since he was acquired. Hawks should have definitely responded when Bedard got slashed. This is why Davidson's first choice was Lucic before Foligno. Beauvillier was a mistake by KD, he allowed Vancouver to free up some cap space to acquire Zadorov and recently Lindholm by not only taking the full cap hit and then compounding this by also sending them a draft pick. I for one like that we have Foligno, ask Brendan Smith. I like Foligno, but to me, he's far from a bonafide enforcer. I know the game has changed and is desperate to get away from such players, but when you have a player like Bedard, they are beyond necessary, even in today's game. Agree about Beauvillier, but I'd also say he was a Hail-Mary move for some sort of offense after the Perry fiasco. Doesn't excuse KD outright, but I doubt the move would have ever been made if Perry was still on the team. |
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Post by Nikos on Mar 4, 2024 12:57:51 GMT -6
Beauvillier was a mistake by KD, he allowed Vancouver to free up some cap space to acquire Zadorov and recently Lindholm by not only taking the full cap hit and then compounding this by also sending them a draft pick. I for one like that we have Foligno, ask Brendan Smith. I like Foligno, but to me, he's far from a bonafide enforcer. I know the game has changed and is desperate to get away from such players, but when you have a player like Bedard, they are beyond necessary, even in today's game. Agree about Beauvillier, but I'd also say he was a Hail-Mary move for some sort of offense after the Perry fiasco. Doesn't excuse KD outright, but I doubt the move would have ever been made if Perry was still on the team. I agree he is not your typical enforcer, just glad all what he brings to this team. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 4, 2024 16:28:14 GMT -6
Beauvillier was a mistake by KD, he allowed Vancouver to free up some cap space to acquire Zadorov and recently Lindholm by not only taking the full cap hit and then compounding this by also sending them a draft pick. I for one like that we have Foligno, ask Brendan Smith. I like Foligno, but to me, he's far from a bonafide enforcer. I know the game has changed and is desperate to get away from such players, but when you have a player like Bedard, they are beyond necessary, even in today's game. Agree about Beauvillier, but I'd also say he was a Hail-Mary move for some sort of offense after the Perry fiasco. Doesn't excuse KD outright, but I doubt the move would have ever been made if Perry was still on the team. I don't think Foligno is here as a classic "enforcer" type, for that sign John Scott. To me I thought him to be more of a "father figure" type. |
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Post by Granada on Mar 5, 2024 9:13:22 GMT -6
I like Foligno, but to me, he's far from a bonafide enforcer. I know the game has changed and is desperate to get away from such players, but when you have a player like Bedard, they are beyond necessary, even in today's game. Agree about Beauvillier, but I'd also say he was a Hail-Mary move for some sort of offense after the Perry fiasco. Doesn't excuse KD outright, but I doubt the move would have ever been made if Perry was still on the team. I don't think Foligno is here as a classic "enforcer" type, for that sign John Scott. To me I thought him to be more of a "father figure" type. To me, one of his main responsibilities is to protect Bedard. So, he is the defacto enforcer, at least in my view. It's like I said, I don't think he's brought in if Lucic wanted to come here, that was Davidson's first choice. He was the next best option available. He can fight but he also is a natural leader, and he's serviceable in the top-six (like Lucic would have been). You can't throw John Scott in the top six, even on this team. |
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