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Post by hsbob on May 27, 2024 12:46:28 GMT -6
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Post by 2old4this on May 27, 2024 19:21:11 GMT -6
Lots of useful info here, much of which you probably didn't know. And one of the storylines is about the Blackhawks.
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Post by 2old4this on May 27, 2024 20:12:28 GMT -6
I like to think something like "wouldn't it be nice to ink Sam Reinhart to a contract" without letting it cross my mind that NOBODY is going to want to play for this miserable team without some serious benefits, such as a 12k contract and guaranteed minimum number of minutes playing on Connor Bedard's line. And would the Hawks be willing to pay out that kind of money? Probably not. But they need to think about it, because right now, there won't be many high quality players (if any) who don't have the Blackhawks on their DO NOT TRADE list. And we need to change that.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 27, 2024 22:12:08 GMT -6
I like to think something like "wouldn't it be nice to ink Sam Reinhart to a contract" without letting it cross my mind that NOBODY is going to want to play for this miserable team without some serious benefits, such as a 12k contract and guaranteed minimum number of minutes playing on Connor Bedard's line. And would the Hawks be willing to pay out that kind of money? Probably not. But they need to think about it, because right now, there won't be many high quality players (if any) who don't have the Blackhawks on their DO NOT TRADE list. And we need to change that. Having Bedard and a system that went from the 20's to second overall in a couple years might put Chicago on some high end players list. Plus they'll know they'll get top minutes here.
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Post by 2old4this on May 28, 2024 0:44:56 GMT -6
I hope you are right!!! Signing some high quality players is key.
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 6:05:35 GMT -6
I like to think something like "wouldn't it be nice to ink Sam Reinhart to a contract" without letting it cross my mind that NOBODY is going to want to play for this miserable team without some serious benefits, such as a 12k contract and guaranteed minimum number of minutes playing on Connor Bedard's line. And would the Hawks be willing to pay out that kind of money? Probably not. But they need to think about it, because right now, there won't be many high quality players (if any) who don't have the Blackhawks on their DO NOT TRADE list. And we need to change that. Reinhart is not on the Hawks radar. He’ll be 29 at the start of next season. He would command far too much to leave Florida. Any player that has a career year in a contract year is never a good buy. Reinhart will never come close to that ever again. It’s a bad investment. That would be a signing for a team that can win now. And I still wouldn’t do it. Can’t pay a flash in the pan superstar money. I’d give him 7 million at most. Hawks need to look to the trade market and get some younger players that other teams can’t afford. Like Pinto or Necas. I’m sure they’ll be more names coming up soon. That’s the Hawks targets!!!
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Post by Nikos on May 28, 2024 7:36:20 GMT -6
I like to think something like "wouldn't it be nice to ink Sam Reinhart to a contract" without letting it cross my mind that NOBODY is going to want to play for this miserable team without some serious benefits, such as a 12k contract and guaranteed minimum number of minutes playing on Connor Bedard's line. And would the Hawks be willing to pay out that kind of money? Probably not. But they need to think about it, because right now, there won't be many high quality players (if any) who don't have the Blackhawks on their DO NOT TRADE list. And we need to change that. Reinhart is not on the Hawks radar. He’ll be 29 at the start of next season. He would command far too much to leave Florida. Any player that has a career year in a contract year is never a good buy. Reinhart will never come close to that ever again. It’s a bad investment. That would be a signing for a team that can win now. And I still wouldn’t do it. Can’t pay a flash in the pan superstar money. I’d give him 7 million at most. Hawks need to look to the trade market and get some younger players that other teams can’t afford. Like Pinto or Necas. I’m sure they’ll be more names coming up soon. That’s the Hawks targets!!! No on Reinhart for the reasons you mention. Pinto should definitely be on KD radar, not sure of Necas, it will be a bidding war and if it gets more than $6M or $7M annual cap hit I say pass. I am sure there will be another Eichel situation, a player who wants out and forces a trade.
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Post by hsbob on May 28, 2024 8:08:14 GMT -6
I like to think something like "wouldn't it be nice to ink Sam Reinhart to a contract" without letting it cross my mind that NOBODY is going to want to play for this miserable team without some serious benefits, such as a 12k contract and guaranteed minimum number of minutes playing on Connor Bedard's line. And would the Hawks be willing to pay out that kind of money? Probably not. But they need to think about it, because right now, there won't be many high quality players (if any) who don't have the Blackhawks on their DO NOT TRADE list. And we need to change that. Reinhart is not on the Hawks radar. He’ll be 29 at the start of next season. He would command far too much to leave Florida. Any player that has a career year in a contract year is never a good buy. Reinhart will never come close to that ever again. It’s a bad investment. That would be a signing for a team that can win now. And I still wouldn’t do it. Can’t pay a flash in the pan superstar money. I’d give him 7 million at most. Hawks need to look to the trade market and get some younger players that other teams can’t afford. Like Pinto or Necas. I’m sure they’ll be more names coming up soon. That’s the Hawks targets!!! 'Samson',as the Sunrise faithful like to call him is a big,physical center who does more than score goals and he's played all 82 the last two years with a bunch of brutal PO games included. He also had 30+ the last two in Fla but I agree with you as far as a big $$$ UFA for the Hawks at this point. Reinhart's flourished in a great system surrounded by brutally effective,highly talented teammates.......so did Huberdeau.
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 8:26:05 GMT -6
Reinhart is not on the Hawks radar. He’ll be 29 at the start of next season. He would command far too much to leave Florida. Any player that has a career year in a contract year is never a good buy. Reinhart will never come close to that ever again. It’s a bad investment. That would be a signing for a team that can win now. And I still wouldn’t do it. Can’t pay a flash in the pan superstar money. I’d give him 7 million at most. Hawks need to look to the trade market and get some younger players that other teams can’t afford. Like Pinto or Necas. I’m sure they’ll be more names coming up soon. That’s the Hawks targets!!! 'Samson',as the Sunrise faithful like to call him is a big,physical center who does more than score goals and he's played all 82 the last two years with a bunch of brutal PO games included. He also had 30+ the last two in Fla but I agree with you as far as a big $$$ UFA for the Hawks at this point. Reinhart's flourished in a great system surrounded by brutally effective,highly talented teammates.......so did Huberdeau. This is why Pinto should be the target #1. I’ve even heard rumours of Zegras being on the block. But I wouldn’t even want him. He’s fun to watch but I’m not sold on him as a player yet. Hawks will need tougher bigger players. No doubt. Maybe some they have can become those guys? It’s a fact that no Cup team drafts their whole team. The time is going to be soon where they have to part ways with certain guys to get a player of need. I just think there’s way too many needs right now to do this. In a year or two? I think they’ll have most of their answers on a core group. But toughness and size will come into question real soon. With all that said. I love Reinhart. Great player, wrong time for the Hawks. He will be 32-33 when the Hawks start looking a lot better. And to pay him 10 million is not gonna help anyone. Now, in 3 years time. There’s a player similar to him. And he’s a free agent. By all means look into signing him. Just not now!!!
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 9:02:49 GMT -6
Reinhart is not on the Hawks radar. He’ll be 29 at the start of next season. He would command far too much to leave Florida. Any player that has a career year in a contract year is never a good buy. Reinhart will never come close to that ever again. It’s a bad investment. That would be a signing for a team that can win now. And I still wouldn’t do it. Can’t pay a flash in the pan superstar money. I’d give him 7 million at most. Hawks need to look to the trade market and get some younger players that other teams can’t afford. Like Pinto or Necas. I’m sure they’ll be more names coming up soon. That’s the Hawks targets!!! No on Reinhart for the reasons you mention. Pinto should definitely be on KD radar, not sure of Necas, it will be a bidding war and if it gets more than $6M or $7M annual cap hit I say pass. I am sure there will be another Eichel situation, a player who wants out and forces a trade. Gotta think for the reasons Bob said he gets 9+ million. Maybe he loves Florida and gives a discount to stay there? But at this point he’s not in the Hawks plans!!!
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Post by LordKOTL on May 28, 2024 9:20:52 GMT -6
“ Scott Powers of The Athletic suggests that the Blackhawks may opt to move on from goalie Jaxson Stauber this fall. The 25-year-old held his own in six NHL appearances in 2022-23 but spent all of this year with AHL Rockford, posting a 2.85 GAA with a .902 SV% in 31 games. A pending restricted free agent, it’s possible that Chicago would look to bring in more of an experienced netminder to work alongside Drew Commesso while also giving them some insurance if Arvid Soderblom struggles again next season. “ I guess it makes sense to have a more “veteran” presence alongside Commesso to teach him some stuff rather than another prospect. Is Stalock available? I get it, but we should be moving on from Soder, not Stauber. .880 behind any defense is bad. Very bad. Like '5th worse performance of a goalie with 30 or more games played in the last 20 years' bad. If the 'hawks talent evaluators see nothing in Stauber, fine. But let's not pretend that Soder has done anything to warrant staying up in the NHL. If Soder wasn't signed though the end of this year he should have been jettisoned and Stauber should have gotten a crack at the backup.
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Post by mvr on May 28, 2024 11:18:07 GMT -6
Some of us have mentioned the name before, but the Oilers are getting tight to the cap and will be undoubtedly be shopping Jack Campbell hard this summer,
Otherwise they will have to buy him out which is not ideal considering the term left (three more years at $5 M/year).
Campbell bounced back in the second half of last year in the AHL. I think he'd be an ideal fit here in the short term. I would not be surprised if Davidson is talking to Ken Holland about how the Oilers would compensate Chicago for taking on the contract. I am thinking a couple of high picks and a prospect at the very least (and perhaps a young roster player as well).
If so, there'd be no need for Stauber or Soderblum. Campbell would certainly be an upgrade over either.
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 11:27:54 GMT -6
Some of us have mentioned the name before, but the Oilers are getting tight to the cap and will be undoubtedly be shopping Jack Campbell hard this summer, Otherwise they will have to buy him out which is not ideal considering the term left (three more years at $5 M/year). Campbell bounced back in the second half of last year in the AHL. I think he'd be an ideal fit here in the short term. I would not be surprised if Davidson is talking to Ken Holland about how the Oilers would compensate Chicago for taking on the contract. I am thinking a couple of high picks and a prospect at the very least (and perhaps a young roster player as well). If so, there'd be no need for Stauber or Soderblum. Campbell would certainly be an upgrade over either. I fully agree here. My worry is the Oilers don’t have much to work with. Check out their picks. Maybe Hawks get futures? Only one pick in the first 4 rounds this year (2nd)!!! puckpedia.com/team/edmonton-oilers/draftpicks
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Post by vadarx on May 28, 2024 12:59:58 GMT -6
Reinhart is not on the Hawks radar. He’ll be 29 at the start of next season. He would command far too much to leave Florida. Any player that has a career year in a contract year is never a good buy. Reinhart will never come close to that ever again. It’s a bad investment. That would be a signing for a team that can win now. And I still wouldn’t do it. Can’t pay a flash in the pan superstar money. I’d give him 7 million at most. Hawks need to look to the trade market and get some younger players that other teams can’t afford. Like Pinto or Necas. I’m sure they’ll be more names coming up soon. That’s the Hawks targets!!! No on Reinhart for the reasons you mention. Pinto should definitely be on KD radar, not sure of Necas, it will be a bidding war and if it gets more than $6M or $7M annual cap hit I say pass. I am sure there will be another Eichel situation, a player who wants out and forces a trade. yeah, same on Necas. I like the player, but if the money demands get too outrageous, I am out on him.
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Post by vadarx on May 28, 2024 13:08:11 GMT -6
Some of us have mentioned the name before, but the Oilers are getting tight to the cap and will be undoubtedly be shopping Jack Campbell hard this summer, Otherwise they will have to buy him out which is not ideal considering the term left (three more years at $5 M/year). Campbell bounced back in the second half of last year in the AHL. I think he'd be an ideal fit here in the short term. I would not be surprised if Davidson is talking to Ken Holland about how the Oilers would compensate Chicago for taking on the contract. I am thinking a couple of high picks and a prospect at the very least (and perhaps a young roster player as well). If so, there'd be no need for Stauber or Soderblum. Campbell would certainly be an upgrade over either. I fully agree here. My worry is the Oilers don’t have much to work with. Check out their picks. Maybe Hawks get futures? Only one pick in the first 4 rounds this year (2nd)!!! puckpedia.com/team/edmonton-oilers/draftpicksit would have to be, Holland has already spent everything he can for this season. less than 10 million left for next season with 14 players signed (this includes Campbell), with only 7 forwards signed. Draisaitl and Bouchard both are up after next season as well...
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 13:25:19 GMT -6
No on Reinhart for the reasons you mention. Pinto should definitely be on KD radar, not sure of Necas, it will be a bidding war and if it gets more than $6M or $7M annual cap hit I say pass. I am sure there will be another Eichel situation, a player who wants out and forces a trade. yeah, same on Necas. I like the player, but if the money demands get too outrageous, I am out on him. I don’t know Necas. But it is rumoured he wants long term at 7. So even if you get him at 6.5. That’s not horrible. With Bedard he could easily be back in the 70+ point range like he was 2 years ago. Maybe even higher. Now that’s a steal. Then use draft capital to acquire Pinto and the team is looking really good. As far as Campbell goes. I just don’t see it happening unless Holland is absolutely all in and he doesn’t give a shit cuz he’ll be retiring!!!
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Post by Hockey is great on May 28, 2024 13:48:26 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on May 28, 2024 14:05:53 GMT -6
Not overly excited about this tbh.
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Post by Nikos on May 28, 2024 14:14:26 GMT -6
it would have to be, Holland has already spent everything he can for this season. less than 10 million left for next season with 14 players signed (this includes Campbell), with only 7 forwards signed. Draisaitl and Bouchard both are up after next season as well... With Draisaitl being signed for one more year and surely will be looking at probably $12M+ AVV with next deal, wonder if Oilers lose to Dallas, what do Holland and the ownership do. McDavid is not going anywhere, surely they would like to move Nurse but would have to take another's team bad salary back, plus Bouchard will get a big raise from current $3.9M cap hit good for only one more year, not even mentioning that their goalie situation is not ideal either.
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Post by Nikos on May 28, 2024 14:15:20 GMT -6
Not overly excited about this tbh. Depth move and two-way contract.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 28, 2024 14:17:11 GMT -6
Not overly excited about this tbh. I like it, he went to Rockford and played hard, good mentor for the young guys down there. And he looked ok in Chicago, decent hands and uses his big frame.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 28, 2024 14:26:54 GMT -6
Nice to see him signed, he's a big hard working center. His only season in the OHL was a little inconsistent, especially after the World Juniors, but he finished strong and ended with 23g-24a=47pts in 60gms. He was drafted first overall in the OHL draft for a reason, size, center, and scouts said he had the highest motor in the draft. 2yrs in a row KD drafted guys who were said to have the highest motors in their drafts, Savoie and Misiak.
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 14:50:31 GMT -6
KD must be taking a vacation next week. He’s signing guys and getting all the little things wrapped up. I know the Hawks scouts and KD were in Saginaw this past weekend. I’m sure they’ll catch the finals of the Memorial Cup!!!
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Post by ebonyraptor on May 28, 2024 15:02:16 GMT -6
KD must be taking a vacation next week. He’s signing guys and getting all the little things wrapped up. I know the Hawks scouts and KD were in Saginaw this past weekend. I’m sure they’ll catch the finals of the Memorial Cup!!! Is Buffalo NY a vacation destination ... cuz I think the NHL draft prospect combine is next week and I think it's in Buffalo.
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2024 16:00:05 GMT -6
KD must be taking a vacation next week. He’s signing guys and getting all the little things wrapped up. I know the Hawks scouts and KD were in Saginaw this past weekend. I’m sure they’ll catch the finals of the Memorial Cup!!! Is Buffalo NY a vacation destination ... cuz I think the NHL draft prospect combine is next week and I think it's in Buffalo. Buffalo is terrible. Not a fan of her. Maybe after the combine he’s taking a week. Then they’ll go over every scouts assessment of their targets, then get ready for Vegas baby!!!
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Post by vadarx on May 28, 2024 19:37:56 GMT -6
yeah, same on Necas. I like the player, but if the money demands get too outrageous, I am out on him. I don’t know Necas. But it is rumoured he wants long term at 7. So even if you get him at 6.5. That’s not horrible. With Bedard he could easily be back in the 70+ point range like he was 2 years ago. Maybe even higher. Now that’s a steal. Then use draft capital to acquire Pinto and the team is looking really good. As far as Campbell goes. I just don’t see it happening unless Holland is absolutely all in and he doesn’t give a shit cuz he’ll be retiring!!! I'd do 7 for Necas, but I dunno about beyond that. that one is starting to seem like it might get a bit crazy, could be too rich/too early for me.
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Post by vadarx on May 28, 2024 19:43:35 GMT -6
KD must be taking a vacation next week. He’s signing guys and getting all the little things wrapped up. I know the Hawks scouts and KD were in Saginaw this past weekend. I’m sure they’ll catch the finals of the Memorial Cup!!! he can take a trip in August. it should be none stop draft and prospect evals right now, along with working the phone.
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Post by LordKOTL on May 29, 2024 7:52:25 GMT -6
Not overly excited about this tbh. VVV Not overly excited about this tbh. Depth move and two-way contract. This. Completely buriable. if he works as depth, great. If not, he can easily be jettisoned either to another team via trade, waivers, or into Rockford.
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Post by bigbarn27 on May 29, 2024 8:01:33 GMT -6
This is a Icehog move
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Post by LordKOTL on May 29, 2024 8:04:51 GMT -6
Basically, but I'm not excepting every slot to be filled next year so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some NHL icetime--maybe a game or 3. If he's decent, okay. If not, back to Rockford and we don't carry any unburiable cap hit.
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