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Post by jacksalmon on May 19, 2024 10:31:07 GMT -6
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Post by Nikos on May 19, 2024 12:25:20 GMT -6
Wonder if this has an impact with Demidov with the Russian hockey losing its stars quicker than in the past. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on May 20, 2024 8:10:40 GMT -6
I will believe it when I see it.
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Post by BigT on May 20, 2024 8:21:28 GMT -6
Demidov is with the same team as Michkov and it sounds like the players over there have had enough. I’m quite sure Demi will do the same thing. He’ll say either you play me or I’m out. This has been circulating around for a while. So if this comes true, look for Demi to do the exact same thing.
I read an article that said Demi wants to come over with his agent and show that his injuries aren’t bad and to tell teams that he wishes to play in the NHL. So my best guess is he’ll notify teams in his interview of his intentions to leave Russia. And I’m sure the teams will make plans for his parents etc to get out of Russia too. So, it should be interesting to say the least!!!
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Post by mikeveisor on May 21, 2024 17:06:00 GMT -6
And I’m sure the teams will make plans for his parents etc to get out of Russia too. I know a thing or three about application of the US immigration laws - getting the parents out can be tricky, especially long-term. It would not shock me that if they got tourist visas to travel with their son for the combine/draft and then they decide not to leave the US, instead seeking political asylum. Have no idea if that would be a successful endeavor - depends what the legal claim would be. My guess is that the Russian government would not be thrilled with that type of maneuver, especially with a potential trend of home-grown talent refusing to stay and play a couple/few seasons in the KHL. Those owners will not be happy, which probably makes Vlad unhappy. |
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Post by BigT on May 21, 2024 19:19:05 GMT -6
And I’m sure the teams will make plans for his parents etc to get out of Russia too. I know a thing or three about application of the US immigration laws - getting the parents out can be tricky, especially long-term. It would not shock me that if they got tourist visas to travel with their son for the combine/draft and then they decide not to leave the US, instead seeking political asylum. Have no idea if that would be a successful endeavor - depends what the legal claim would be. My guess is that the Russian government would not be thrilled with that type of maneuver, especially with a potential trend of home-grown talent refusing to stay and play a couple/few seasons in the KHL. Those owners will not be happy, which probably makes Vlad unhappy. I think it’s different due to their son’s Visa. I believe the parents can come longer term. I could be wrong. But because the kid is working and can support them. I’m not saying it’s permanent, but they can stay longer I believe. Then like you said, maybe they get political asylum? Michkov told em to fuck off. And they more than likely killed his dad. His dad was found dead in a pond last year. It was very suspicious. So we’ll see what happens next!!! |
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Post by mikeveisor on May 22, 2024 5:01:10 GMT -6
I know a thing or three about application of the US immigration laws - getting the parents out can be tricky, especially long-term. It would not shock me that if they got tourist visas to travel with their son for the combine/draft and then they decide not to leave the US, instead seeking political asylum. Have no idea if that would be a successful endeavor - depends what the legal claim would be. My guess is that the Russian government would not be thrilled with that type of maneuver, especially with a potential trend of home-grown talent refusing to stay and play a couple/few seasons in the KHL. Those owners will not be happy, which probably makes Vlad unhappy. I think it’s different due to their son’s Visa. I believe the parents can come longer term. I could be wrong. But because the kid is working and can support them. I’m not saying it’s permanent, but they can stay longer I believe. Then like you said, maybe they get political asylum? Michkov told em to fuck off. And they more than likely killed his dad. His dad was found dead in a pond last year. It was very suspicious. So we’ll see what happens next!!! For the combine/draft, I would envision Demi and his folks obtaining tourist visas from the U.S. embassy in Moscow. To secure such visas, the applicants are required to show that they will return to their home country after their visit is complete. In some overseas embassies, the U.S. government will provide such visa to one of the parents, not the other, to try to ensure that the visiting parent does return home. Visa overstays are a big issue - U.S. government is not fond of those. Are there exceptions made? I’m sure there are; maybe aspiring NHLer parents are one such group. They are generally allowed to remain up to 6 months per visit on such visa. Those are the basics of these visas’ general usage. Do Canadian parents have the same rules? Generally yes, but the rules are much more lax for them since most Canadians return home after their short visits, and they do not have the U.S. Embassy scrutinizing them. A perk for being a national of our northern neighbor. Until Demi is drafted and signs an ELC, he’s not eligible for a team sponsored work visa so that tourist visa is the only way he and his family can come to the U.S. I heard about Michkov’s dad - I would have to imagine that some of the same rumblings about “you think you’re leaving for millions of $ and not coming back?” have to be swirling - we’ll see I guess. Seems Matvei and Demi should be subject to military service before they come here - just like Toni Kukoc’s complicated journey to the Bulls back in the early 90s. |
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Post by BigT on May 22, 2024 6:24:30 GMT -6
It does appear that Demi will be treated like shit. Just like Michkov. If he plays for Ska, he more than likely won’t play much. They only transfer players like Michkov if they have a multi year deal. He played in Sochi. So there’s a good to great chance Demi plays in the MHL again. So he more than likely will shut up, and defect.
He’s now 18 and can sign his ELC. So if drafted in late June. He can sign his deal and apply for his parents on his worker/entertainment visa.
Even if they have to leave the country to apply for re-entry. I’m sure he could send his parents on Vacation in Canada, Mexico or even the Caribbean somewhere. The team will help with the paperwork and get their lawyers to look after it!!!
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Post by nighbor on May 22, 2024 23:53:40 GMT -6
An NHL team cannot sign a player under contract to a team in Russia. A player can buy out his contract but has to pay it himself without outside money.
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Post by T-man2010 on May 23, 2024 5:10:05 GMT -6
An NHL team cannot sign a player under contract to a team in Russia. A player can buy out his contract but has to pay it himself without outside money. Then he gets a signing bonus from the nhl team and all is good. |
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Post by BigT on May 23, 2024 5:56:36 GMT -6
We have to read the wording here. Michkov is “Terminating” his contract. I believe due to breach of contract. Now what that is or why is up for the lawyers. But he’ll come over and his case won’t be settled until his contract is done.
I’m sure he has grounds to leave Ska. And I’m sure Demidov does too. There’s absolutely nothing stopping the player from Signing for 1 million to play in the AHL. He just has to stay there for the year and join the team who drafts him the year after!!!
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Post by mikeveisor on May 23, 2024 6:17:13 GMT -6
It does appear that Demi will be treated like shit. Just like Michkov. If he plays for Ska, he more than likely won’t play much. They only transfer players like Michkov if they have a multi year deal. He played in Sochi. So there’s a good to great chance Demi plays in the MHL again. So he more than likely will shut up, and defect. He’s now 18 and can sign his ELC. So if drafted in late June. He can sign his deal and apply for his parents on his worker/entertainment visa. Even if they have to leave the country to apply for re-entry. I’m sure he could send his parents on Vacation in Canada, Mexico or even the Caribbean somewhere. The team will help with the paperwork and get their lawyers to look after it!!! Derivative status for P-1 nonimmigrants inures to spouse and children, it does not travel up the line to parents unless they somehow qualify as essential support personnel. That's a dilemma if he and parents are looking to cut ties with the motherland with this draft. Hence, getting mom AND dad tourist visas for the combine/draft seems pretty important. Hope the embassy in Moscow is accommodating, especially if Demi wants to try to obtain a P-1 after draft/signing ELC. FWIW - US embassies do not like handling 3rd country nationals, especially Canada; however, maybe/MAYBE some leniency when it comes to pro athletes. No one sends anyone they value to the embassy in Juarez, Mexico... I will now see myself out of the weeds on this "At Least One Russian Has His Head on Straight" conversation topic minutiae. Time to watch some playoff hockey. |
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Post by vadarx on May 23, 2024 14:09:10 GMT -6
We have to read the wording here. Michkov is “Terminating” his contract. I believe due to breach of contract. Now what that is or why is up for the lawyers. But he’ll come over and his case won’t be settled until his contract is done. I’m sure he has grounds to leave Ska. And I’m sure Demidov does too. There’s absolutely nothing stopping the player from Signing for 1 million to play in the AHL. He just has to stay there for the year and join the team who drafts him the year after!!! I can think of a few things that might stop him from coming over. I believe I've listed them around these parts already. this is not going to be an easy choice for he and his family. |
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