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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 28, 2020 6:03:43 GMT -6
Watch...since i've obviously just jinxed the entire nhl by creating this thread, expect a baker's dozen or more of new covid cases tomorrow.
Anyways....this preview by JJ was pretty much bang on i reckon.
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 28, 2020 6:31:43 GMT -6
^^
I agree GT; the preview didn't try to sugarcoat things.
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Post by tincup on Jul 28, 2020 7:50:57 GMT -6
I’ve got a fans blind faith. I think a short series and momentum mean anything can happen. Oilers rode their top two and their PP this year, even strength the Hawks out scored them. The opponent has been known for weeks, any good coaching staff would have, or should have, taken apart the Oilers tendencies and found a way to mitigate the damage. I see the Oilers speedy wings trying to turn the Hawks slowish defense and look for the weak stick calls to get on the PP, look for a fair bit of flopping. I see their heavier players exposing Boqvist and Keith as a pair with their physical play if the forwards don’t come back to help out. The Oilers bottom six are no more an impressive bunch than ours, more physical but we might actually have an advantage in secondary scoring there.But goaltending is likely the deciding factor. Crow is the best of any on both teams, but is he at this time? St. Louis game should let us see where their heads are at.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 28, 2020 8:07:37 GMT -6
Watch...since i've obviously just jinxed the entire nhl by creating this thread, expect a baker's dozen or more of new covid cases tomorrow. Anyways....this preview by JJ was pretty much bang on i reckon. Obviously I agree with the entire summation of the series,we've been wondering how this edition of the Hawks would fare in the PO's and now we're gonna see. I hope we don't see our young forwards "pulling up early and quitting on pucks" but we have seen it in the past. Winning puck battles will be everything and I hope the team proves me wrong. Are JJ's line combos accurate? If they are,having Nolander in the top six over D-Cat is a petulant,stubborn coaching decision.......having Nolander in the top six is a bad idea in general. Kubalik back with JT is a good move however much of a no-brainer it is. When you consider Crosby having Malkin in the #2 spot and McDavid having Draisaitl,I often think Toews/?....... Our captain has never had a true #2 behind him. Sharp handled the duties in the '10' run,Sharp and Handzus in '13' and Richards in '15',guys like Bolland,Kruger and even Maddon helped take pressure off but Malkiin or Draisaidl they were NOT! We do have a few good,young players who should benefit from this experience if the team has a decent showing. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 28, 2020 8:39:53 GMT -6
I’ve got a fans blind faith. I think a short series and momentum mean anything can happen. Oilers rode their top two and their PP this year, even strength the Hawks out scored them. The opponent has been known for weeks, any good coaching staff would have, or should have, taken apart the Oilers tendencies and found a way to mitigate the damage. I see the Oilers speedy wings trying to turn the Hawks slowish defense and look for the weak stick calls to get on the PP, look for a fair bit of flopping. I see their heavier players exposing Boqvist and Keith as a pair with their physical play if the forwards don’t come back to help out. The Oilers bottom six are no more an impressive bunch than ours, more physical but we might actually have an advantage in secondary scoring there.But goaltending is likely the deciding factor. Crow is the best of any on both teams, but is he at this time? St. Louis game should let us see where their heads are at. That "opponent has been known for weeks" is a double edged sword....no? The Oil has had the same amount of time to prepare and take apart our tendencies too,this article that you posted a few weeks back probably tells us how they'll do it..... edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/shots-fired-chicago-blackhawks-have-virtually-no-chance-without-corey-crawford-against-edmonton-oilers-says-nhl-expert |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 28, 2020 9:01:35 GMT -6
I’ve got a fans blind faith. I think a short series and momentum mean anything can happen. We need crow ready. Not too worried about that. Any other goalie maybe but not him. We need jonny at mid season form, not at normal early season form. In this crazy situation not too worried about that either. Btw...that was a good post cup. GO HAWKS!! |
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Post by tincup on Jul 28, 2020 9:01:40 GMT -6
I’ve got a fans blind faith. I think a short series and momentum mean anything can happen. Oilers rode their top two and their PP this year, even strength the Hawks out scored them. The opponent has been known for weeks, any good coaching staff would have, or should have, taken apart the Oilers tendencies and found a way to mitigate the damage. I see the Oilers speedy wings trying to turn the Hawks slowish defense and look for the weak stick calls to get on the PP, look for a fair bit of flopping. I see their heavier players exposing Boqvist and Keith as a pair with their physical play if the forwards don’t come back to help out. The Oilers bottom six are no more an impressive bunch than ours, more physical but we might actually have an advantage in secondary scoring there.But goaltending is likely the deciding factor. Crow is the best of any on both teams, but is he at this time? St. Louis game should let us see where their heads are at. That "opponent has been known for weeks" is a double edged sword....no? The Oil has had the same amount of time to prepare and take apart our tendencies too,this article that you posted a few weeks back probably tells us how they'll do it..... edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/shots-fired-chicago-blackhawks-have-virtually-no-chance-without-corey-crawford-against-edmonton-oilers-says-nhl-expertYep, I remember the article. But I agree somewhat to Staples first point in his “take”. Arrogance and over confidence on the part of the better team. When the Hawks were at the pinnacle of hockey other teams would set their game plans around countering the Hawks game. But the Hawks wouldn’t necessarily change to match them, and why would you? When you have the successful system others try to nullify you. I think Edmonton has confidence in their special teams, maybe too much, and they will just play their game and hope the big two lead the way. If the Hawks show up they could steal that first game and I believe that Edmonton is the more fragile team psychologically. Hell, the Hawks aren’t even supposed to be here, this is like house money to them, maybe they’ll play free and loose while the Oilers will have the tight sphincters. Maybe. |
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Post by hawks27 on Jul 28, 2020 9:40:28 GMT -6
I’ve got a fans blind faith. I think a short series and momentum mean anything can happen. Oilers rode their top two and their PP this year, even strength the Hawks out scored them. The opponent has been known for weeks, any good coaching staff would have, or should have, taken apart the Oilers tendencies and found a way to mitigate the damage. I see the Oilers speedy wings trying to turn the Hawks slowish defense and look for the weak stick calls to get on the PP, look for a fair bit of flopping. I see their heavier players exposing Boqvist and Keith as a pair with their physical play if the forwards don’t come back to help out. The Oilers bottom six are no more an impressive bunch than ours, more physical but we might actually have an advantage in secondary scoring there.But goaltending is likely the deciding factor. Crow is the best of any on both teams, but is he at this time? St. Louis game should let us see where their heads are at. The question is: Do the Hawks have a good coaching staff, "to take apart the Oilers tendencies......"? I'm afraid we all know the most probable answer to that. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 28, 2020 9:57:43 GMT -6
I’ve got a fans blind faith. I think a short series and momentum mean anything can happen. Oilers rode their top two and their PP this year, even strength the Hawks out scored them. The opponent has been known for weeks, any good coaching staff would have, or should have, taken apart the Oilers tendencies and found a way to mitigate the damage. I see the Oilers speedy wings trying to turn the Hawks slowish defense and look for the weak stick calls to get on the PP, look for a fair bit of flopping. I see their heavier players exposing Boqvist and Keith as a pair with their physical play if the forwards don’t come back to help out. The Oilers bottom six are no more an impressive bunch than ours, more physical but we might actually have an advantage in secondary scoring there.But goaltending is likely the deciding factor. Crow is the best of any on both teams, but is he at this time? St. Louis game should let us see where their heads are at. The question is: Do the Hawks have a good coaching staff, "to take apart the Oilers tendencies......"? I'm afraid we all know the most probable answer to that. Even if there is no faith in Colliton hopefully the veteran Crawford can instill some of his experience. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 28, 2020 11:46:22 GMT -6
I doubt those are the lineups from the link GT posted, it said projected.
Why have the same forward lines for every scrimmage game then change them?
This will be an entertaining series and I'll be watching in BC with my girlfriend and her family, who are all die hard Oiler fans 😳
Let's Go Hawks 🤞
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Post by tincup on Jul 28, 2020 12:58:07 GMT -6
I doubt those are the lineups from the link GT posted, it said projected. Why have the same forward lines for every scrimmage game then change them? This will be an entertaining series and I'll be watching in BC with my girlfriend and her family, who are all die hard Oiler fans 😳 Let's Go Hawks 🤞 Other than the Dcat/Kubalik swap those have been the lines, and the Oilers lines are what they’ve been using. Except Haas might be in for a dinged Sheehan. Good luck travelling into a nest of Oiler fans. |
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Post by Tater on Jul 28, 2020 13:00:06 GMT -6
Is this the official GDT? If so, I will report it for not being in the Gameday section of the forum.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 28, 2020 13:42:48 GMT -6
Is this the official GDT? If so, I will report it for not being in the Gameday section of the forum.C'mon man? Pre-series chatter. You're lucky that was in purple or i'd have banned your sorry arse. : ) |
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Post by tincup on Jul 28, 2020 14:23:35 GMT -6
Is this the official GDT? If so, I will report it for not being in the Gameday section of the forum.C'mon man? Pre-series chatter. You're lucky that was in purple or i'd have banned your sorry arse. : ) ![]() ![]()  |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 28, 2020 19:29:45 GMT -6
I doubt those are the lineups from the link GT posted, it said projected. Why have the same forward lines for every scrimmage game then change them? This will be an entertaining series and I'll be watching in BC with my girlfriend and her family, who are all die hard Oiler fans 😳 Let's Go Hawks 🤞 Other than the Dcat/Kubalik swap those have been the lines, and the Oilers lines are what they’ve been using. Except Haas might be in for a dinged Sheehan. Good luck travelling into a nest of Oiler fans. True, it's only 2 players they mixed up for the Hawks, as much as I like Kubalik, Debrincat should be on the top line. Nylander on the top 6 isn't a popular choice, Bob would agree lol, but he does have high end skill and chemistry with Kane and Strome, plus he played with Kane, Debrincat, and Subban as the first group to skate. We'll see how he does very soon. And thanks, there's gonna be about 10+ Oiler fans 😳 the rest of the people staying at the cabins are Flames fans. I'll need beer lol |
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Post by Tater on Jul 28, 2020 23:15:10 GMT -6
I scouted out the Oilers tonight in their game against the Flamers. Man, we need a Klefbom, Nurse or a Kassian here. Or better yet a similar version of all three.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 29, 2020 6:08:15 GMT -6
A little bit o' good news.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 29, 2020 6:47:16 GMT -6
I scouted out the Oilers tonight in their game against the Flamers. Man, we need a Klefbom, Nurse or a Kassian here. Or better yet a similar version of all three. Plus big Broberg, he made a nice save last night and after a shaky 1st he settled in and looked good. Calgary played a tough physical game that only woke up the Oilers, lets hope Chicagos non physical game keeps them asleep. And hopefully Crow plays and looks like the guy with 2 rings, Hawks need a lot to go right to get past the Oilers. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 29, 2020 6:52:20 GMT -6
A little bit o' good news. Definitely good news but with Murphy always tweaking something maybe that's why Bowman said Regula might see some playing time. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 29, 2020 8:10:08 GMT -6
I think there's a lot that can go wrong.
Yeah, Dr. Craw needs to bring his A-Game. So does Toews, Kane, and Keith. A 2013/2018 Crawford, a 2013/2019 Toews, a 2016 Kane, and a 2010/2015 playoffs Keith still might not be enough. There are 15 other guys. Even though someone like Kubalik doesn't really worry me, Debrincat/Strome need to step it up. If Sikura sees the ice he has to play like he's a hockey player and not a parking valet.
I'm not getting a warm, fuzzy feeling, but I do also feel like the 'hawks are just enough of a dark horse to eek out a win in the play-in series.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 29, 2020 8:20:08 GMT -6
A little bit o' good news. Definitely good news but with Murphy always tweaking something maybe that's why Bowman said Regula might see some playing time. covid i think regula's just along for the ride unless the bulk of our defense core catch covid from some pimply, coughing, covid positive, crazed oiler's fan who happens to be a delivery boy from a popular edmonton take-out who coughs purposely into their calzones. there you go hawkinmontreal.....there's your home ice advantage. : ) |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 29, 2020 8:39:51 GMT -6
Definitely good news but with Murphy always tweaking something maybe that's why Bowman said Regula might see some playing time. covid i think regula's just along for the ride unless the bulk of our defense core catch covid from some pimply, coughing, covid positive, crazed oiler's fan who happens to be a delivery boy from a popular edmonton take-out who coughs purposely into their calzones. there you go hawkinmontreal.....there's your home ice advantage. : ) I think so too, especially with Beaudin or Seeler as the 7th dman. But if things don't look good or if Murphy can't go and they want a big right handed shot, there's no other options. But he's most likely along for the ride and it's good experience for the big dman. And I wouldn't put it past an Oiler fan if they did that lol hopefully their fans don't get near the bubble. Glad I could give you a segway back to home ice advantage. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 29, 2020 8:52:11 GMT -6
I scouted out the Oilers tonight in their game against the Flamers. Man, we need a Klefbom, Nurse or a Kassian here. Or better yet a similar version of all three. Players of that Ilk need not apply here. Anyone in disagreement can list examples why. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 29, 2020 8:59:20 GMT -6
i think regula's just along for the ride unless the bulk of our defense core catch covid from some pimply, coughing, covid positive, crazed oiler's fan who happens to be a delivery boy from a popular edmonton take-out who coughs purposely into their calzones. there you go hawkinmontreal.....there's your home ice advantage. : ) And I wouldn't put it past an Oiler fan if they did that lol hopefully their fans don't get near the bubble. don't get near the bubble..... imagine being a hawk player and you order delivery and there's a knock on your hotel door and you see this guy in an oiler's jersey thru the peephole. "your calzones sir".  |
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Post by BigT on Jul 29, 2020 9:02:05 GMT -6
I scouted out the Oilers tonight in their game against the Flamers. Man, we need a Klefbom, Nurse or a Kassian here. Or better yet a similar version of all three. Players of that Ilk need not apply here. Anyone in disagreement can list examples why. I think we’re at the point where we just have to watch and complain later. I know there’ll be lots of “they’re young” arguments etc. But the roster is what it is. No changing what we’ve got now. I am interested to see what this team can or cannot do. I’m sure the conversation will be ever so epic at the end of this!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 29, 2020 9:14:16 GMT -6
Other than the Dcat/Kubalik swap those have been the lines, and the Oilers lines are what they’ve been using. Except Haas might be in for a dinged Sheehan. Good luck travelling into a nest of Oiler fans. True, it's only 2 players they mixed up for the Hawks, as much as I like Kubalik, Debrincat should be on the top line. Nylander on the top 6 isn't a popular choice, Bob would agree lol, but he does have high end skill and chemistry with Kane and Strome, plus he played with Kane, Debrincat, and Subban as the first group to skate. We'll see how he does very soon. And thanks, there's gonna be about 10+ Oiler fans 😳 the rest of the people staying at the cabins are Flames fans. I'll need beer lol With 13 goals in his first 84 games,Nolander's "high end skill" is basically just theoretical at this point......it has to translate into practice in the bigs. I guess I don't get breaking up yet ANOTHER very successful combo in Toews/Kubalik....talk about chemistry! Same with Strome/D-Cat before JC's petulant,immature meddling.....give this guy a good line combo and he'll wipe his ass with it. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 29, 2020 10:13:35 GMT -6
Players of that Ilk need not apply here. Anyone in disagreement can list examples why. I think we’re at the point where we just have to watch and complain later. I know there’ll be lots of “they’re young” arguments etc. But the roster is what it is. No changing what we’ve got now. I am interested to see what this team can or cannot do. I’m sure the conversation will be ever so epic at the end of this!!! The team is constructed the way it's GM wants it constructed and it plays the way it's HC wants it to play.....make no mistake. My expectations are low but I'll admit I'm wrong if proven so and I expect even less in the physicality dept. and I'd be overjoyed to be proven wrong about that too but who does anyone point to tp prove me wrong? |
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Post by BigT on Jul 29, 2020 10:26:21 GMT -6
True, it's only 2 players they mixed up for the Hawks, as much as I like Kubalik, Debrincat should be on the top line. Nylander on the top 6 isn't a popular choice, Bob would agree lol, but he does have high end skill and chemistry with Kane and Strome, plus he played with Kane, Debrincat, and Subban as the first group to skate. We'll see how he does very soon. And thanks, there's gonna be about 10+ Oiler fans 😳 the rest of the people staying at the cabins are Flames fans. I'll need beer lol With 13 goals in his first 84 games,Nolander's "high end skill" is basically just theoretical at this point......it has to translate into practice in the bigs. I guess I don't get breaking up yet ANOTHER very successful combo in Toews/Kubalik....talk about chemistry! Same with Strome/D-Cat before JC's petulant,immature meddling.....give this guy a good line combo and he'll wipe his ass with it. I sure hope JC doesn’t do what he did all year. For the most part it did not work. About 77.653% ineffective to my calculations. Stubborn won’t get you anywhere. I’ll try and post a link to Shaw’s interview on Spittin Chiclets. He talks about Q like a little school girl with a crush. He even said that any other coach more than likely doesn’t allow him to be what he is and he wouldn’t be in the NHL. Great interview. He seems like a mans man!!! |
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Post by hawks27 on Jul 29, 2020 14:48:12 GMT -6
And I wouldn't put it past an Oiler fan if they did that lol hopefully their fans don't get near the bubble. don't get near the bubble..... imagine being a hawk player and you order delivery and there's a knock on your hotel door and you see this guy in an oiler's jersey thru the peephole. "your calzones sir". GT, by any chance is that a young Don Ho, the famous Hawaiian singer (whose signature song was "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles?" Or was it "Tiny Bubbles?" "Oh Well" (and that was a song by the great guitarist Peter Green, who unfortunately passed away recently). May he RIP.
Note: Green also wrote "Black Magic Woman," an all-time Santana favorite.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 29, 2020 16:06:26 GMT -6
Hello fellas , do you think GT will have alink to the game tonight?
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