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Post by hsbob on Nov 28, 2020 9:09:52 GMT -6
Vincent Viola, the team's owner, (clarified that "[Tallon] has always had final say over hockey decisions." To me always means uninterrupted.
I highly doubt Tallon was the GM when Rowe was. Is that what you’re implying? I don’t understand your argument? At all!!! The article gt posted answered my question about "where that quote from Viola came from" but then went on to debunk the quote. |
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Post by BigT on Nov 28, 2020 11:44:07 GMT -6
I highly doubt Tallon was the GM when Rowe was. Is that what you’re implying? I don’t understand your argument? At all!!! The article gt posted answered my question about "where that quote from Viola came from" but then went on to debunk the quote. That’s a conundrum right there. I didn’t really understand that. But to my other discussion with Nighbor. It would be just like me starting an argument with your post here. You didn’t imply anything or make a stand or nothing opinionated. You just simply stated what the article said, nothing to argue there. All I ever said about the Panthers state was that Dale got interrupted in his work after a good season, then had to come back in a couple years later only to undue what the other guy did. Then try to regroup and move on. I think it was highly detrimental to that team to have those changes and the proof is in the results!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2020 16:06:04 GMT -6
The article gt posted answered my question about "where that quote from Viola came from" but then went on to debunk the quote. All I ever said about the Panthers state was that Dale got interrupted in his work after a good season, then had to come back in a couple years later only to undue what the other guy did. Then try to regroup and move on. I think it was highly detrimental to that team to have those changes and the proof is in the results!!! it was only about 11 months actually. (may 16, 2016 – april 10, 2017) still a dumb move though. |
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Post by BigT on Nov 28, 2020 17:39:49 GMT -6
All I ever said about the Panthers state was that Dale got interrupted in his work after a good season, then had to come back in a couple years later only to undue what the other guy did. Then try to regroup and move on. I think it was highly detrimental to that team to have those changes and the proof is in the results!!! it was only about 11 months actually. (may 16, 2016 – april 10, 2017) still a dumb move though. For a guy that played and knew what it’s like to be there, he literally acted like a vengeful fan. Even if he hated Gallant, fair enough. Fire him with dignity and look like a classy guy/organization. That team probably was thinking like WTF is going on? I by do I wanna be here? And did moves like that ruin free agents wanting to come there? I don’t care that they got rid of Uncle Dale, it’s just that the guy who replaced him made a mockery out of the game. I think Dale is stubborn and wants things his way, he buts heads a lot I’d have to think, but the man knows his hockey. If he gets shtcanned, that’s on him. Maybe his time has passed by? I’m thinking he may just fade away now!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2020 17:57:59 GMT -6
it was only about 11 months actually. (may 16, 2016 – april 10, 2017) still a dumb move though. For a guy that played and knew what it’s like to be there, he literally acted like a vengeful fan. Even if he hated Gallant, fair enough. Fire him with dignity and look like a classy guy/organization. That team probably was thinking like WTF is going on? I by do I wanna be here? And did moves like that ruin free agents wanting to come there? I don’t care that they got rid of Uncle Dale, it’s just that the guy who replaced him made a mockery out of the game. I think Dale is stubborn and wants things his way, he buts heads a lot I’d have to think, but the man knows his hockey. If he gets shtcanned, that’s on him. Maybe his time has passed by? I’m thinking he may just fade away now!!! i said it before somewhere that dale's 70 years old and that he'll likely spend the rest of his life on a golf course. i wonder if edzo moved on to another job in hockey if dale would do another spin as foley's color guy? i doubt it but it would be kinda' cool though. |
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Post by BigT on Nov 28, 2020 18:24:51 GMT -6
For a guy that played and knew what it’s like to be there, he literally acted like a vengeful fan. Even if he hated Gallant, fair enough. Fire him with dignity and look like a classy guy/organization. That team probably was thinking like WTF is going on? I by do I wanna be here? And did moves like that ruin free agents wanting to come there? I don’t care that they got rid of Uncle Dale, it’s just that the guy who replaced him made a mockery out of the game. I think Dale is stubborn and wants things his way, he buts heads a lot I’d have to think, but the man knows his hockey. If he gets shtcanned, that’s on him. Maybe his time has passed by? I’m thinking he may just fade away now!!! i said it before somewhere that dale's 70 years old and that he'll likely spend the rest of his life on a golf course. i wonder if edzo moved on to another job in hockey if dale would do another spin as foley's color guy? i doubt it but it would be kinda' cool though. Ya, Dale is definitely older than most think. I think you’re right, he’ll spend the rest of his days on a course in Florida. That’s probably the best thing for him. The game is a changing, and even guys like Bob Murray are probably on his last corner. Older grumpier guys are now almost obsolete!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 28, 2020 19:21:59 GMT -6
For a guy that played and knew what it’s like to be there, he literally acted like a vengeful fan. Even if he hated Gallant, fair enough. Fire him with dignity and look like a classy guy/organization. That team probably was thinking like WTF is going on? I by do I wanna be here? And did moves like that ruin free agents wanting to come there? I don’t care that they got rid of Uncle Dale, it’s just that the guy who replaced him made a mockery out of the game. I think Dale is stubborn and wants things his way, he buts heads a lot I’d have to think, but the man knows his hockey. If he gets shtcanned, that’s on him. Maybe his time has passed by? I’m thinking he may just fade away now!!! i said it before somewhere that dale's 70 years old and that he'll likely spend the rest of his life on a golf course. i wonder if edzo moved on to another job in hockey if dale would do another spin as foley's color guy?i doubt it but it would be kinda' cool though. Is Dale going to break out the leather sports coats? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2020 20:26:52 GMT -6
i said it before somewhere that dale's 70 years old and that he'll likely spend the rest of his life on a golf course. i wonder if edzo moved on to another job in hockey if dale would do another spin as foley's color guy?i doubt it but it would be kinda' cool though. Is Dale going to break out the leather sports coats? i never once saw a game with dale as color guy except for a couple YT clips so not at all aware of dale's fashion choices. : ) i'm just looking at all of the hawks' broadcasters over the years. maggie did color for a year before dale arrived. and lou angotti did it for 4 years before maggie. i never knew either of them did broadcasts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chicago_Blackhawks_broadcasters |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Nov 28, 2020 22:45:30 GMT -6
Is Dale going to break out the leather sports coats? i never once saw a game with dale as color guy except for a couple YT clips so not at all aware of dale's fashion choices. : ) i'm just looking at all of the hawks' broadcasters over the years. maggie did color for a year before dale arrived. and lou angotti did it for 4 years before maggie. i never knew either of them did broadcasts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chicago_Blackhawks_broadcastersIMO, Foley/Tallon were the best. I didn't care for Gardner at first but he grew on me to the point when I was sorry to see him go. Eddie is the best color guy in terms of seeing everything in real time and explaining it quickly and thoroughly - but, the Pat & Eddie show has worn very thin over the years and I'd much rather have John & Troy doing the TV broadcast. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2020 23:08:40 GMT -6
i never once saw a game with dale as color guy except for a couple YT clips so not at all aware of dale's fashion choices. : ) i'm just looking at all of the hawks' broadcasters over the years. maggie did color for a year before dale arrived. and lou angotti did it for 4 years before maggie. i never knew either of them did broadcasts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chicago_Blackhawks_broadcastersIMO, Foley/Tallon were the best. I didn't care for Gardner at first but he grew on me to the point when I was sorry to see him go. Eddie is the best color guy in terms of seeing everything in real time and explaining it quickly and thoroughly - but, the Pat & Eddie show has worn very thin over the years and I'd much rather have John & Troy doing the TV broadcast. i can't really comment on tallon's abilities but i do know if i'm having a shit day and need a guaranteed laugh i just go to YT and put on tallon's "wee-knee" call. it brighten's the mood every time. |
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Post by Tater on Nov 29, 2020 0:45:25 GMT -6
i said it before somewhere that dale's 70 years old and that he'll likely spend the rest of his life on a golf course. i wonder if edzo moved on to another job in hockey if dale would do another spin as foley's color guy? i doubt it but it would be kinda' cool though.It would be VERY cool. Him and Foley were great together back in the day.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2020 9:20:54 GMT -6
All I ever said about the Panthers state was that Dale got interrupted in his work after a good season, then had to come back in a couple years later only to undue what the other guy did. Then try to regroup and move on. I think it was highly detrimental to that team to have those changes and the proof is in the results!!! it was only about 11 months actually. (may 16, 2016 – april 10, 2017) still a dumb move though. Rowe did have a HUGE impact in his only summer though..... Traded Grudbranson Traded Kulikov Signed Yandle for 6.35M till he's 37 with full NMC Re-did Ekblad for max term @7.5M with NMC his last four years. Ekblad is a very good,very young D-man but the contract was still a big move and big money and term. Firing Galant early in the season and taking over himself was a farce. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 9:48:56 GMT -6
i never once saw a game with dale as color guy except for a couple YT clips so not at all aware of dale's fashion choices. : ) i'm just looking at all of the hawks' broadcasters over the years. maggie did color for a year before dale arrived. and lou angotti did it for 4 years before maggie. i never knew either of them did broadcasts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chicago_Blackhawks_broadcastersIMO, Foley/Tallon were the best. I didn't care for Gardner at first but he grew on me to the point when I was sorry to see him go. Eddie is the best color guy in terms of seeing everything in real time and explaining it quickly and thoroughly - but, the Pat & Eddie show has worn very thin over the years and I'd much rather have John & Troy doing the TV broadcast. Foley and Tallon were great partly because the games were simulcast on both TV and radio. So they couldn't stray from the call of the game to discuss soft serve ice cream and cookies. The worst thing that happened to Foley (outside of being fired in the first place) was having 2 broadcast teams. John and Troy are great at calling the games on the radio. Pat and Eddie get the chance to stray because they know fans can see the action going on. Example is when they are separated. When Eddie is doing the national games, he stays on point. While when Steve Konroyd is in the booth with Pat, the game is actually called by them more completely. Rarely, if ever, do Pat and Steve stray from the call of the game.
As for Tallon ever coming back.....as long as Bowman is part of the Hawks organization, that alone is a non-starter. I can not see them co-existing, although I'd love to be a fly on the wall if they were to go head to head!
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Post by ebonyraptor on Nov 29, 2020 11:40:09 GMT -6
IMO, Foley/Tallon were the best. I didn't care for Gardner at first but he grew on me to the point when I was sorry to see him go. Eddie is the best color guy in terms of seeing everything in real time and explaining it quickly and thoroughly - but, the Pat & Eddie show has worn very thin over the years and I'd much rather have John & Troy doing the TV broadcast. Foley and Tallon were great partly because the games were simulcast on both TV and radio. So they couldn't stray from the call of the game to discuss soft serve ice cream and cookies. The worst thing that happened to Foley (outside of being fired in the first place) was having 2 broadcast teams. John and Troy are great at calling the games on the radio. Pat and Eddie get the chance to stray because they know fans can see the action going on. Example is when they are separated. When Eddie is doing the national games, he stays on point. While when Steve Konroyd is in the booth with Pat, the game is actually called by them more completely. Rarely, if ever, do Pat and Steve stray from the call of the game.
As for Tallon ever coming back.....as long as Bowman is part of the Hawks organization, that alone is a non-starter. I can not see them co-existing, although I'd love to be a fly on the wall if they were to go head to head!
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Post by Tater on Nov 29, 2020 11:44:23 GMT -6
Foley and Tallon were great partly because the games were simulcast on both TV and radio. So they couldn't stray from the call of the game to discuss soft serve ice cream and cookies. The worst thing that happened to Foley (outside of being fired in the first place) was having 2 broadcast teams. John and Troy are great at calling the games on the radio. Pat and Eddie get the chance to stray because they know fans can see the action going on. Example is when they are separated. When Eddie is doing the national games, he stays on point. While when Steve Konroyd is in the booth with Pat, the game is actually called by them more completely. Rarely, if ever, do Pat and Steve stray from the call of the game.
As for Tallon ever coming back.....as long as Bowman is part of the Hawks organization, that alone is a non-starter. I can not see them co-existing, although I'd love to be a fly on the wall if they were to go head to head!
Well said Phil. Spot on. |
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