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Mar 19, 2020 21:18:29 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Mar 19, 2020 21:18:29 GMT -6
guess we are drafting o line help....
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Mar 20, 2020 9:36:10 GMT -6
Post by hsbob on Mar 20, 2020 9:36:10 GMT -6
guess we are drafting o line help.... Which we should have done last year but the brain trust figured we needed a RB even though we had the perfect speed/power combo and their number's proved it. Good thing our ground game improved!LOFL! Did Pace actually think Kyle Long would get healthier with age? |
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Post by hsbob on Apr 26, 2020 8:03:47 GMT -6
I know we didn't have a 1st again but to prove how important the OL is,SEVEN went in the fist round. Bears took two in the SEVENTH round! They also brought in an old cast off FA OT on a cheap one year....how many TE's do we have now?
I remember watching a game with a friend who bets big money on NFL games and he told me to watch the players introductions,he pointed out how the good teams always had an OL that were drafted in the first three rounds.
It appears Pace assembles a team better suited for a fantasy league than the NFL,skill players do little without a stellar O line. NO QB is effective running for his life and a RB will never be effective getting hit behind the line of scrimmage.
We have eight days till the Bears have to decide on MT's 5th option year......how in the hell does Pace keep his job if Mitch is dumped and how in the hell was Pace allowed to spend big $$$ on another QB? I know Foles missed nine games after breaking his collar bone in game one last year but he was also benched in favor of Gardner F'n Minshew late in the year too.
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Apr 26, 2020 14:47:27 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Apr 26, 2020 14:47:27 GMT -6
yeah, I can't disagree with ya, Bob. I will say that TE is a vital part of our offense, and while we had 47 of em on the roster already, Kmet is already at worst #2. I'd also add that most of them will be cut before the season. I loved the pick @ 50, though.
but, yeah.... our o line is gonna be terrible again this season more than likely and that is sad considering it was obvious to most fans that it was a glaring problem last year and instead we just tried to get better at QB and TE...
if we don't make the playoffs, I gotta think Pace will at best get one more season to get shit right, but I dunno. it is all but certain that Mitch is not gonna have that 5th year picked up (rightly so, imo), so that alone is almost worth firing him for....
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Post by hsbob on Apr 27, 2020 7:28:07 GMT -6
yeah, I can't disagree with ya, Bob. I will say that TE is a vital part of our offense, and while we had 47 of em on the roster already, Kmet is already at worst #2. I'd also add that most of them will be cut before the season. I loved the pick @ 50, though. but, yeah.... our o line is gonna be terrible again this season more than likely and that is sad considering it was obvious to most fans that it was a glaring problem last year and instead we just tried to get better at QB and TE... if we don't make the playoffs, I gotta think Pace will at best get one more season to get shit right, but I dunno. it is all but certain that Mitch is not gonna have that 5th year picked up (rightly so, imo), so that alone is almost worth firing him for.... I know Mitch regressed but if he and he alone takes the rap,it'll be unfair IMO. Everyone on offense regressed because Pace did nothing to improve the O-line last summer too,is it Mitch's fault that Cohen went from a dangerous weapon that teams game planned for to a total after thought? I'm no Mitch apologist and I'm not payin' him 20M plus either but he did have a real good year when he had a decent O-line in front of him and a running game that gave him real security. The running game was a self inflicted wound by Pace and Nagy and Long was deteriorating before everyone's eyes except Pace and Nagy's. Last year was an example of Nagy exerting his control with Howard's departure but the offense didn't do the things they did the year prior for some reason. Where were the quick pitches to Cohen that saw him beat everyone to the edge the year before? Where were the completions down the middle to Burton(he sucked ever since he took a dive against his old team in the PO's!)? Maybe it was the shoulder brace he wore most of the year but where were the 'roll outs'? Mitch is better on the run and better when he runs the ball too. I guess we'll see how Foles does behind the same O-line,the same weak running game and a HC who'd still rather trick an opponent than anything else.....you trick the NFL for only so long...….about a year I guess. I know the umpteen TE's they have will be mostly jettisoned because they mostly suck and the 2nd round pick BETTER make an impact. |
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Apr 27, 2020 15:59:07 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 15:59:07 GMT -6
most certainly MT should not be blamed for the offensive failings on his own. the line was terrible and the play calling was terrible last season. he shoulders a decent amount of the blame as well, though. as you said, he regressed, but he has never at any point since he was drafted looked like someone that should've been taken with the #2 pick in the draft. he is forever going to be known as the guy taken ahead of Mahomes and Watson.... and a colossal screw up by Pace.
if he fails to even win the starting job this season, you have to think his time in Chicago will be over and if the team doesn't make the playoffs, with or without him, then Pace's time should be over as well.
just amazes me how we can continually screw up the most important position in football. even more frustrating when we seem to continually have a good/great defense....
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Post by hsbob on Apr 27, 2020 16:15:51 GMT -6
most certainly MT should not be blamed for the offensive failings on his own. the line was terrible and the play calling was terrible last season. he shoulders a decent amount of the blame as well, though. as you said, he regressed, but he has never at any point since he was drafted looked like someone that should've been taken with the #2 pick in the draft. he is forever going to be known as the guy taken ahead of Mahomes and Watson.... and a colossal screw up by Pace. if he fails to even win the starting job this season, you have to think his time in Chicago will be over and if the team doesn't make the playoffs, with or without him, then Pace's time should be over as well. just amazes me how we can continually screw up the most important position in football. even more frustrating when we seem to continually have a good/great defense.... What.....you didn't like Mike Glennon? What are the odds that getting Nick Foles is another high paid screw up? |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 16:45:56 GMT -6
most certainly MT should not be blamed for the offensive failings on his own. the line was terrible and the play calling was terrible last season. he shoulders a decent amount of the blame as well, though. as you said, he regressed, but he has never at any point since he was drafted looked like someone that should've been taken with the #2 pick in the draft. he is forever going to be known as the guy taken ahead of Mahomes and Watson.... and a colossal screw up by Pace. if he fails to even win the starting job this season, you have to think his time in Chicago will be over and if the team doesn't make the playoffs, with or without him, then Pace's time should be over as well. just amazes me how we can continually screw up the most important position in football. even more frustrating when we seem to continually have a good/great defense.... What.....you didn't like Mike Glennon? What are the odds that getting Nick Foles is another high paid screw up? 😅 honestly, I don't think I've liked a Bears qb since old headband was leading the shuffle.... our lack of success at that position for the entirety of my fandom is depressing.... |
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Post by hsbob on May 20, 2020 9:06:28 GMT -6
The more Nagy quotes I read,the less confidence I have in him..... www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/matt-nagy-states-the-obvious-bears-run-game-needs-to-be-better/ar-BB14lJGq?ocid=spartandhp'When your run game isn't good enough,it's hard to call runs' If I keep readin' this crap,I'll have the runs! He and Pace blew up a real good run game! "Nagy brought in some offensive minds this offseason"? Isn't he the offensives mind? Wasn't he the quarterback whisper too? "We feel like we're in a good place right now"? MY ASS,the run game was a F'n joke last year and we're in a better place because we added Ryan Nall? There's also no mention of the porous O-line with the exception of the old guy they added on a one year. He said "there's no finger pointing. It's all about solutions" Once again.....MY ASS! I have a bad feeling that Matt Nagy is lost if he can't trick opponents and you can't trick em for long in the NFL.....might explain the one good year! The Chicago Bears will once again pay a big price for not improving a terrible O-line,nothing works well without one! |
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Post by hsbob on May 31, 2020 8:24:09 GMT -6
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May 31, 2020 18:13:34 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on May 31, 2020 18:13:34 GMT -6
pretty frickin sad..... hopefully we get lucky and a couple fo them prove the author wrong (*cough* Colliton. Nagy. *cough*) |
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Jun 1, 2020 8:20:42 GMT -6
Post by hsbob on Jun 1, 2020 8:20:42 GMT -6
pretty frickin sad..... hopefully we get lucky and a couple fo them prove the author wrong (*cough* Colliton. Nagy. *cough*) You picked the two young coaches who seem to want to re-invent the wheel for the sake of it and it didn't turn out well... Bears two years ago.... DOMINATING defense after mortgaging the future and breaking the bank on Mack,a running game that produced speed AND power and a 12-4 record that actually shoulda been better. The weakness was a marginal(at best) O-line that saw it's best player get less and less healthy every year,so what does the braintrust do? Nagy convinces Pace his 1,000yd,24yro RB is worthless and he's moved for crap and how did that work. Cohen went from a dangerous player that teams HAD to game plan for to a totally ineffective player that opponents just started to ridicule…. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/21/saints-savagely-mock-bears-tarik-cohen-over-his-height/ Nothing was done to help the O-line last offseason.....let's hope two 7th rounders and a guy we got on a one year make a difference. We needed a stud there if either QB hopes to look like anything and to help a floundering run game. Hawks two years ago.... The team's top two forward combos combined for 140gls and 324pts but someone had a better idea,that better idea resulted in 49 fewer goals and almost 100 fewer points and that's a fact! |
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Sept 10, 2020 17:51:04 GMT -6
Post by hsbob on Sept 10, 2020 17:51:04 GMT -6
well here we are on the cusp of another exiting Bears season....LOL!
It looks like Lyin' Pace went out and spent 20M on a backup QB if MT gets the job and a once in a lifetime chance at a Super Bowl QB if he doesn't.....this alone should be career ending.
That money was desperately needed on the O line but the O line seems like just another after thought like RB does for our brain trust.
Does a 2nd year RB look any better than he did in his 1st? Does adding another BIG salary on the D line get Mack back on track and should we have to spend that much to do so after spending so much on him?
I have a bad felling Nagy's last stand ends up like Custer's!
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Sept 10, 2020 19:23:01 GMT -6
Post by hsbob on Sept 10, 2020 19:23:01 GMT -6
It's a REAL bite in the ass watchin' Mahomes and Watson go at tonight........MY GOD,what could have been!
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 14, 2020 22:27:44 GMT -6
It's a REAL bite in the ass watchin' Mahomes and Watson go at tonight........MY GOD,what could have been! just pretend we're like a dozen games into the season. : ) |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 15, 2020 9:07:47 GMT -6
It's a REAL bite in the ass watchin' Mahomes and Watson go at tonight........MY GOD,what could have been! just pretend we're like a dozen games into the season. : ) MT's fourth quarter was as encouraging as the first three weren't but I'll take it. The Lions lost leads in the 4th quarter all last year and look like they're picking up where they left off. Detroit's a BAD team but the comeback was still enjoyable and encouraging with two more bad teams on the horizon the nest few weeks. |
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Bears
Sept 20, 2020 12:03:06 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 20, 2020 12:03:06 GMT -6
good start today, gotta keep 'er rollin boys!
seems like Nagy got the memo on the tunning game thus far this season. definitely seems to be a point of emphasis thus far.
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Sept 20, 2020 13:50:39 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 20, 2020 13:50:39 GMT -6
of course we are gonna try and shit our pants this week.....
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Post by hsbob on Sept 25, 2020 20:18:05 GMT -6
Barely beat two bad teams but 2-0 is 2-0,Atlnta makes it 3 straight bad teams and 3-0 has a good ring to it.
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Sept 25, 2020 21:13:54 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 25, 2020 21:13:54 GMT -6
Barely beat two bad teams but 2-0 is 2-0,Atlnta makes it 3 straight bad teams and 3-0 has a good ring to it. I have a feeling we are gonna get a good effort outta the Falcons after their bed-shitting last weekend. that being said, their pass defense is hot garbage. I won't be surprised either way, honestly, but I am leaning towards we are due to lose to one of these shitty teams after the last two close calls.... |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 26, 2020 7:39:16 GMT -6
Barely beat two bad teams but 2-0 is 2-0,Atlnta makes it 3 straight bad teams and 3-0 has a good ring to it. I have a feeling we are gonna get a good effort outta the Falcons after their bed-shitting last weekend. that being said, their pass defense is hot garbage. I won't be surprised either way, honestly, but I am leaning towards we are due to lose to one of these shitty teams after the last two close calls.... The team had one good quarter in the 1st game and a good half in game 2,maybe we see 3 good quarters this Sunday. The run game was encouraging but second halves are where adjustments are made and coaching shows...........Nagy and his offense were shut out in the second half by a team they owned in the first half. The Bears are two lucky plays away from losing their first two against terrible opponents and how would that look on Nagy and Pace? |
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Sept 26, 2020 11:28:11 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 26, 2020 11:28:11 GMT -6
I have a feeling we are gonna get a good effort outta the Falcons after their bed-shitting last weekend. that being said, their pass defense is hot garbage. I won't be surprised either way, honestly, but I am leaning towards we are due to lose to one of these shitty teams after the last two close calls.... The team had one good quarter in the 1st game and a good half in game 2,maybe we see 3 good quarters this Sunday. The run game was encouraging but second halves are where adjustments are made and coaching shows...........Nagy and his offense were shut out in the second half by a team they owned in the first half. The Bears are two lucky plays away from losing their first two against terrible opponents and how would that look on Nagy and Pace? I know. it's nice being 2-0, but hard to get excited about it. if our run defense doesn't get A LOT better, gb is going kill us. but hey, as you said, maybe we get to 3/4 of a good game this week. I will say I should give a little leeway with no preseason. I will say that their (Nagy's) insistence on running the ball more and then using play action is nice to see thus far. |
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Sept 26, 2020 16:52:09 GMT -6
Post by hsbob on Sept 26, 2020 16:52:09 GMT -6
The team had one good quarter in the 1st game and a good half in game 2,maybe we see 3 good quarters this Sunday. The run game was encouraging but second halves are where adjustments are made and coaching shows...........Nagy and his offense were shut out in the second half by a team they owned in the first half. The Bears are two lucky plays away from losing their first two against terrible opponents and how would that look on Nagy and Pace? I know. it's nice being 2-0, but hard to get excited about it. if our run defense doesn't get A LOT better, gb is going kill us. but hey, as you said, maybe we get to 3/4 of a good game this week. I will say I should give a little leeway with no preseason. I will say that their (Nagy's) insistence on running the ball more and then using play action is nice to see thus far. Seventeen points against a terrible NY defense...............what happens against a good one? |
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Sept 26, 2020 18:40:52 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 26, 2020 18:40:52 GMT -6
I know. it's nice being 2-0, but hard to get excited about it. if our run defense doesn't get A LOT better, gb is going kill us. but hey, as you said, maybe we get to 3/4 of a good game this week. I will say I should give a little leeway with no preseason. I will say that their (Nagy's) insistence on running the ball more and then using play action is nice to see thus far. Seventeen points against a terrible NY defense...............what happens against a good one? well, like ya said, hopefully they have 3 good quarters this week (or whenever they play a good defense). |
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Sept 27, 2020 12:05:24 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2020 12:05:24 GMT -6
sigh......
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Sept 27, 2020 12:06:04 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2020 12:06:04 GMT -6
I guess this week we hope for a good half....
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Sept 27, 2020 14:10:04 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2020 14:10:04 GMT -6
one more drive from BDN here and he has himself the starting job.
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Sept 27, 2020 14:19:33 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2020 14:19:33 GMT -6
OK.
can the defense make another stop to win the game for the third week in a row?
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Sept 27, 2020 14:23:15 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2020 14:23:15 GMT -6
weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Sept 27, 2020 14:30:02 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2020 14:30:02 GMT -6
3 and 0, boys!
now Mitch can sit his ass down for the rest of the season, hopefully.
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