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Post by BigT on Oct 29, 2023 13:12:56 GMT -6
I know back in September Q and Scambo spoke to the NHL GMs and executives at O’Hare airport in a conference room. I’m not sure what the point was except to be the next step in them both returning. I will say that Babcocks recent debacle may swerve Gary’s decision the other way. Basically the old guard may not change their ways!!! Regardless how I fell about either guy,I still see a difference between their actions and Babcock's,I also know many won't. IMO,Q and SB made one VERY BAD DECISION and Babcock exhibited a long career pattern of abusive behavior. Even though those decisions came at the behest of an iron-fisted CEO/President,either the GM with the influential,hockey god father or the long tenured,well respected HC,still could have demanded the AC's immediate dismissal......neither did. These decisions came in the heat of the biggest battle of their careers at that point,heading into the SCF as prohibited favorites and neither covered-up or kept anything from their superiors but they were decisions that cost both dearly none the less. This isn't to justify those decisions either but look deep inside yourselves and think about the decision you'd have made in the same scenario. I think it's fair to say this was the only indiscretion on the part of Q or SB throughout their careers. BabCOCK on the other hand was both iron-fisted,authority figure and antagonist with a long history of abusive behavior! He didn't make one bad character decision while following the instructions of his superior,he was one bad character,keeping his abusive behavior from his superiors. That's the difference I see. I definitely don’t disagree and I don’t believe I made the argument against that. I for one just think that Babs recent scenario may actually play a role in his decision. Or it may not. One thing is for sure is that Babs is officially done and it’s a good thing. He knows one way to do things and he just proved he’s never gonna change. It honestly wouldn’t bother me if ole Scambo got let back in. I read the report and unfortunately, it sounded like McD was taking care of it. And McD seemed like a Babcockian type guy too. He’ll destroy you and your career. The only problem I see moving forward is the scales have shifted all the way to the other side. While I fully agree that the right things need to be done. I don’t know anyone who’d argue that. But now I fear the league is going very soft serve. It just seems like everyone is out to destroy everyone now!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 29, 2023 16:40:37 GMT -6
say what you want about the mullett, but going to a game there would be an intimate experience.
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 29, 2023 16:52:56 GMT -6
say what you want about the mullett, but going to a game there would be an intimate experience. Was Vosters there looking for a job stacking chairs?
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Post by steamer on Oct 29, 2023 18:31:17 GMT -6
say what you want about the mullett, but going to a game there would be an intimate experience. It would be a great place to watch an NHL game!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 29, 2023 23:45:42 GMT -6
still confused about your comment about liking to watch them. the draft will still be televised. the GM or someone from the 'hawks will be there to announce their pick(s). what am I missing here? Haven't yet listened to marek's podcast regarding this so i can't comment beyond this tweet. if interested, the burke interview starts at 52 minutes in, he talks pinto/gambling until 56 minutes in, then the topic turns to the draft decentralization. imo, brian burke is one of the best interviews in the game. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shane-pinto-suspended-for-gambling-burke-talks-decentralizing/id354153569?i=1000632741418
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Post by hsbob on Oct 30, 2023 12:40:10 GMT -6
Regardless how I fell about either guy,I still see a difference between their actions and Babcock's,I also know many won't. IMO,Q and SB made one VERY BAD DECISION and Babcock exhibited a long career pattern of abusive behavior. Even though those decisions came at the behest of an iron-fisted CEO/President,either the GM with the influential,hockey god father or the long tenured,well respected HC,still could have demanded the AC's immediate dismissal......neither did. These decisions came in the heat of the biggest battle of their careers at that point,heading into the SCF as prohibited favorites and neither covered-up or kept anything from their superiors but they were decisions that cost both dearly none the less. This isn't to justify those decisions either but look deep inside yourselves and think about the decision you'd have made in the same scenario. I think it's fair to say this was the only indiscretion on the part of Q or SB throughout their careers. BabCOCK on the other hand was both iron-fisted,authority figure and antagonist with a long history of abusive behavior! He didn't make one bad character decision while following the instructions of his superior,he was one bad character,keeping his abusive behavior from his superiors. That's the difference I see. I definitely don’t disagree and I don’t believe I made the argument against that. I for one just think that Babs recent scenario may actually play a role in his decision. Or it may not. One thing is for sure is that Babs is officially done and it’s a good thing. He knows one way to do things and he just proved he’s never gonna change. It honestly wouldn’t bother me if ole Scambo got let back in. I read the report and unfortunately, it sounded like McD was taking care of it. And McD seemed like a Babcockian type guy too. He’ll destroy you and your career. The only problem I see moving forward is the scales have shifted all the way to the other side. While I fully agree that the right things need to be done. I don’t know anyone who’d argue that. But now I fear the league is going very soft serve. It just seems like everyone is out to destroy everyone now!!! You haven't made that argument at all and you might be right that the recent BabCOCK situation is fresh enough to effect Q's reinstatement.........unfortunately.
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Post by steamer on Oct 30, 2023 16:42:17 GMT -6
Current snapshot of league standings indicates the 4 bottom teams in points % are all in the Pacific division. . . and so is the #1 ranked team.
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Post by tincup on Oct 31, 2023 20:52:06 GMT -6
I have no hard feelings for this guy, hometown boy and all. Hopefully he recovers and can continue his career.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 1, 2023 12:02:48 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Nov 1, 2023 12:23:27 GMT -6
I have no hard feelings for this guy, hometown boy and all. Hopefully he recovers and can continue his career. Not much to hold against him really but you'd think the poor bastard's luck would change after being rushed into the league as a 'gangly',concussed 18yro,again as a 19yro with a barely healed,badly fractured wrist and for a coaching staff that could find work nowhere else.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 1, 2023 12:48:24 GMT -6
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Post by steamer on Nov 1, 2023 14:10:34 GMT -6
Backstrom “stepping away” from hockey for a while due to issues with the hip he had surgery on.
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Post by tincup on Nov 1, 2023 14:34:19 GMT -6
I have no hard feelings for this guy, hometown boy and all. Hopefully he recovers and can continue his career. Not much to hold against him really but you'd think the poor bastard's luck would change after being rushed into the league as a 'gangly',concussed 18yro,again as a 19yro with a barely healed,badly fractured wrist and for a coaching staff that could find work nowhere else. I always thought there were fans who disliked him due to his draft position and a lot of “what if’s” as to who they should have picked. The last régime totally rushed him, he wasn’t ready for the pros. We’ll see if the new guys salvaged the situation in the trade if Nazar, and hopefully Hayes, both hit.
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Post by Nikos on Nov 1, 2023 14:55:39 GMT -6
Backstrom “stepping away” from hockey for a while due to issues with the hip he had surgery on. Interesting a guy like Marchand comes back and plays at the same level or very little drop off and it appears Kane is ahead of schedule and in the videos looks good. Not sure if Backstrom, Marchand and Kane had the exact same surgery (hip resurfacing).
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Post by tincup on Nov 1, 2023 14:57:49 GMT -6
Backstrom “stepping away” from hockey for a while due to issues with the hip he had surgery on. Solid pro, taken right after Toews. He’s the highest scoring player from that ‘06 draft although Giroux is likely to pass him sometime this season. Hip surgery for players seems to be a fairly common thing lately. Is it just because medicine has come a long way? How many old timers are limping around after decades of skating I wonder.
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Post by steamer on Nov 1, 2023 14:58:25 GMT -6
Backstrom “stepping away” from hockey for a while due to issues with the hip he had surgery on. Interesting a guy like Marchand comes back and plays at the same level or very little drop off and it appears Kane is ahead of schedule and in the videos looks good. Not sure if Backstrom, Marchand and Kane had the exact same surgery (hip resurfacing). Then there was Kessler whose career ended .
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Post by tincup on Nov 1, 2023 15:08:53 GMT -6
Backstrom “stepping away” from hockey for a while due to issues with the hip he had surgery on. Interesting a guy like Marchand comes back and plays at the same level or very little drop off and it appears Kane is ahead of schedule and in the videos looks good. Not sure if Backstrom, Marchand and Kane had the exact same surgery (hip resurfacing). Hip resurfacing sounds like pretty innocuous terminology, like getting a bathtub reglazed or something. But here’s a link to a surgeon’s site with the X-rays and such to show it and comparisons with a total replacement. Still seems it would be hard to come back from for a professional athlete. johnantonioumd.com/procedures/metal-hip-resurfacing-canada/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3aOomdmjggMV9A6tBh3S0AWaEAAYASAAEgIeEfD_BwE
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 2, 2023 12:24:18 GMT -6
I think it’s just love of the game. He’s not ready to kick back and retire to Florida. The only reason why I think they’ll be reinstated is because I doubt they do one without the other. And Scambo is the son of gawd it seems. Also Scambo is younger. He’s only 50. So I doubt they reinstate one without the other. It just wouldn’t make sense!!! I think both will have a great chance to be reinstated, Q will have no problem getting a job. Scambo I think will have a long road back to any spot of importance on whatever team would hire him. I think they'll both be back in at some point--it might take a contrite, public, falling on the sword moment for both of them to do so knowing full well that eyes will but on both of them until the next scandal rocks the NHL. I think Bowman the Beancounter might get a GM job quicker than we might think, but I think he screws it up. At the time of his firing (if not firing in name), I think he was still convinced he was the smartest guy in the room and trying to bring his vision over to another club will be disastrous, unless he managed to come in with a team right on the cusp like we were in 2010. Q probably gets a job pretty quick.
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Post by tincup on Nov 2, 2023 18:55:22 GMT -6
I’m sick of this arsehole and his team, usual dirty and dangerous play, a leg breaker.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2023 18:58:46 GMT -6
I’m sick of this arsehole and his team, usual dirty and dangerous play, a leg breaker. you beat me by less than a minute. sneaky little slew foot there. liljegren out of the game and no penalty on numbnuts. hopefully marchand's phone rings tomorrow and he has a little chat with player safety.
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Post by tincup on Nov 2, 2023 19:01:16 GMT -6
I’m sick of this arsehole and his team, usual dirty and dangerous play, a leg breaker. you beat me by less than a minute. sneaky little slew foot there. liljegren out of the game and no penalty on numbnuts. hopefully marchand's phone rings tomorrow and he has a little chat with player safety. After penalizing McAvoy it’s doubtful. This little prick has been protected somehow his entire career. Isn’t this why they got Reeves?
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2023 19:17:12 GMT -6
you beat me by less than a minute. sneaky little slew foot there. liljegren out of the game and no penalty on numbnuts. hopefully marchand's phone rings tomorrow and he has a little chat with player safety. After penalizing McAvoy it’s doubtful. This little prick has been protected somehow his entire career. Isn’t this why they got Reeves? some might call that a double slew foot. perhaps a slew feet. he slewed liljegren's left leg with his stick, and to be sure he got liljegren's right leg with his skate. the guy never had a chance.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 2, 2023 20:25:12 GMT -6
you beat me by less than a minute. sneaky little slew foot there. liljegren out of the game and no penalty on numbnuts. hopefully marchand's phone rings tomorrow and he has a little chat with player safety. After penalizing McAvoy it’s doubtful. This little prick has been protected somehow his entire career. Isn’t this why they got Reeves? Same old loafs all bark no bite they talk a lot accomplish very little
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2023 21:54:43 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 3, 2023 0:03:09 GMT -6
After penalizing McAvoy it’s doubtful. This little prick has been protected somehow his entire career. Isn’t this why they got Reeves? Same old loafs all bark no bite they talk a lot accomplish very little
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Post by tincup on Nov 3, 2023 9:27:34 GMT -6
I know Marchand has been suspended, via a quick Google search, 8 times for 28 games. How much time have his victims missed? How many times did he escape punishment or get the $5000 fine while another victim is helped off the ice?
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Post by steamer on Nov 4, 2023 16:04:30 GMT -6
Oilers drop another one at home. 0-4-1 at home so far this year. It’s early but they were one of the favorites in the western conference.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 4, 2023 22:40:16 GMT -6
last 5 games (all regulation losses) outscored 32 to 4.
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Post by Tater on Nov 5, 2023 2:12:45 GMT -6
Oilers drop another one at home. 0-4-1 at home so far this year. It’s early but they were one of the favorites in the western conference.
They miss Keith?
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 5, 2023 6:44:30 GMT -6
Oilers drop another one at home. 0-4-1 at home so far this year. It’s early but they were one of the favorites in the western conference.
They miss Keith? They need Murphy and Jones.
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