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Post by Tater on Nov 17, 2019 12:39:07 GMT -6
What a nice and classy letter from Steeger. I wish him the best.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 17, 2019 15:48:19 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Nov 17, 2019 15:53:59 GMT -6
Adam Boqvist is a victim of numbers at the AHL level? How can that possibly be anything but a bad sign for another young D-man taken in the 1st round? JC said he was going down so he could play more and he doesn't play at all......is Indy the next stop? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 17, 2019 16:05:43 GMT -6
Adam Boqvist is a victim of numbers at the AHL level? How can that possibly be anything but a bad sign for another young D-man taken in the 1st round? JC said he was going down so he could play more and he doesn't play at all......is Indy the next stop? Rockford started reassigning players to Indy when Bo got sent there. |
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Post by tincup on Nov 17, 2019 16:20:43 GMT -6
Adam Boqvist is a victim of numbers at the AHL level? How can that possibly be anything but a bad sign for another young D-man taken in the 1st round? JC said he was going down so he could play more and he doesn't play at all......is Indy the next stop? Maybe he’s tweaked a bit, maybe he’s on a maintenance day. With the exception of Holm, who is probably their best defenseman at this time, and the newly acquired McCoshen, every other defenseman down there qualifies as an in developement player, some of which you have advocated for. I’m not going to worry about it, especially when there is a vacuum of news on the subject. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 18, 2019 8:45:43 GMT -6
Adam Boqvist is a victim of numbers at the AHL level? How can that possibly be anything but a bad sign for another young D-man taken in the 1st round? JC said he was going down so he could play more and he doesn't play at all......is Indy the next stop? Maybe he’s tweaked a bit, maybe he’s on a maintenance day. With the exception of Holm, who is probably their best defenseman at this time, and the newly acquired McCoshen, every other defenseman down there qualifies as an in developement player, some of which you have advocated for. I’m not going to worry about it, especially when there is a vacuum of news on the subject. I have more important stuff to worry about myself. I have had intertest in Glibert and Carlson but little in the other two you mentioned,I just don't see how falling behind any of these other youngsters isn't a set back for Boqvist. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 19, 2019 12:34:18 GMT -6
Gilbert got a suspension for an interference penalty?
Anybody see this play yet?
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Post by tincup on Nov 19, 2019 15:32:22 GMT -6
Good hit but of course totally unacceptable now. Was the player hurt? That seems to influence the decision.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 20, 2019 12:37:27 GMT -6
Gilbert got a suspension for an interference penalty? Anybody see this play yet? That's how I was tought to hit, it wasn't interference cause he just dumped it in and he didn't target his head. It's sad how hockey is becoming so soft. |
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Post by jaty84 on Nov 20, 2019 16:58:21 GMT -6
Versteeg is allegedly coming to Slovakia to play with his brother. Haven't seen Slovak league hockey match for ages, but the club is only 25 miles away from me so I might see a 2 times Stanley cup champion live 😀
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 20, 2019 17:06:28 GMT -6
Versteeg is allegedly coming to Slovakia to play with his brother. Haven't seen Slovak league hockey match for ages, but the club is only 25 miles away from me so I might see a 2 times Stanley cup champion live 😀 He said in the interview he wanted to play with his brother in the Spengler Cup? I do not know what this is. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 20, 2019 17:26:06 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 20, 2019 17:53:39 GMT -6
He said in the interview he wanted to play with his brother in the Spengler Cup? I do not know what this is. lots about the spengler cup in this article that i wasn't aware of, most notably the history. it's been a tourney since 1923. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 20, 2019 18:11:28 GMT -6
He said in the interview he wanted to play with his brother in the Spengler Cup? I do not know what this is. lots about the spengler cup in this article that i wasn't aware of, most notably the history. it's been a tourney since 1923. I do know someone who lives in Davos, Switzerland. |
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Post by doogiew on Nov 20, 2019 18:11:31 GMT -6
I don't think it matters either way both are career minor league players. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 20, 2019 18:18:15 GMT -6
I don't think it matters either way both are career minor league players. knott has played the whole season in indianapolis for the fuel this year so yeah....kind of a nothing trade. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 20, 2019 19:11:57 GMT -6
can't read the article but is seems cramarossa (27 yrs. old) was brought in to replace versteeg's experience.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 20, 2019 20:57:12 GMT -6
can't read the article but is seems cramarossa (27 yrs. old) was brought in to replace versteeg's experience. That's what I was thinking but Cram doesn't have nearly as much experience as Versteeg and he has terrible numbers, plus he's small. To bad cause Knott had some potential and he's big. Bondra, Radke, Knott were drafted the same year, big guys with talent who couldn't reach the next level. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 20, 2019 21:42:19 GMT -6
That's what I was thinking but Cram doesn't have nearly as much experience as Versteeg and he has terrible numbers, plus he's small. To bad cause Knott had some potential and he's big. Bondra, Radke, Knott were drafted the same year, big guys with talent who couldn't reach the next level. cram is the same weight (192lbs.) but at 6' he's only 3" shorter than knott. so technically knott is bigger but maybe cram's more solid on his skates? who knows. if you want to replace versteeg's nhl experience...that's a pretty tall order for an ahl team. we traded a #54 overall pick for a #65 pick, or if you want...an ECHLer for an AHLER with similar upsides and the new guy has 4 more years of experience to play on a very young team. bottom line....it was likely nothing more than a nothing trade. the good thing is that it's considerably more interesting than far away earthquakes on a slow day. : ) |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 20, 2019 22:41:59 GMT -6
That's what I was thinking but Cram doesn't have nearly as much experience as Versteeg and he has terrible numbers, plus he's small. To bad cause Knott had some potential and he's big. Bondra, Radke, Knott were drafted the same year, big guys with talent who couldn't reach the next level. cram is the same weight (192lbs.) but at 6' he's only 3" shorter than knott. so technically knott is bigger but maybe cram's more solid on his skates? who knows. if you want to replace versteeg's nhl experience...that's a pretty tall order for an ahl team. we traded a #54 overall pick for a #65 pick, or if you want...an ECHLer for an AHLER with similar upsides and the new guy has 4 more years of experience to play on a very young team. bottom line....it was likely nothing more than a nothing trade. the good thing is that it's slightly more interesting than far away earthquakes on a slow day. : ) Crazy, Knott was in the 190's when he was drafted, can't build muscle I guess. He didn't progress at all and no doubt they won't find a guy who has Versteegs NHL experience but they could've got a player who's at least a good AHLer. Knott was a fun player to watch in the OHL and I had high hopes for him to be a bottom 6 player, he couldn't even do that in the AHL, at least Cram is off the books after this season. |
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Post by acesandeights on Nov 22, 2019 15:25:52 GMT -6
I was looking at Rockford stats and saw Holm is the leading point getter with 10 in 15 games; it included 3 g's. The leading goal scorers were the two Sikura bros. with 6 each.
It showed Mikael Hakkarainen as playing in only 1 game so far. Is he injured?
I'd like to see Soderlund start getting some points; he has only 1 assist in 7 games.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 22, 2019 15:48:02 GMT -6
I was looking at Rockford stats and saw Holm is the leading point getter with 10 in 15 games; it included 3 g's. The leading goal scorers were the two Sikura bros. with 6 each. It showed Mikael Hakkarainen as playing in only 1 game so far. Is he injured? I'd like to see Soderlund start getting some points; he has only 1 assist in 7 games. I like Holms game, gritty 2way dman, I'd much rather see him on the Hawks over Gus and Koekkoek. Holm had a nice set up on Kubaliks PP goal in the preseason, they've never tried that play again 🙄 |
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Post by tincup on Nov 22, 2019 21:54:12 GMT -6
I was looking at Rockford stats and saw Holm is the leading point getter with 10 in 15 games; it included 3 g's. The leading goal scorers were the two Sikura bros. with 6 each. It showed Mikael Hakkarainen as playing in only 1 game so far. Is he injured? I'd like to see Soderlund start getting some points; he has only 1 assist in 7 games. I like Holms game, gritty 2way dman, I'd much rather see him on the Hawks over Gus and Koekkoek. Holm had a nice set up on Kubaliks PP goal in the preseason, they've never tried that play again 🙄 Maybe they’ll get to team up again when Colliton decides Kubalik needs more seasoning and gets him sent down. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 23, 2019 8:22:36 GMT -6
I like Holms game, gritty 2way dman, I'd much rather see him on the Hawks over Gus and Koekkoek. Holm had a nice set up on Kubaliks PP goal in the preseason, they've never tried that play again 🙄 Maybe they’ll get to team up again when Colliton decides Kubalik needs more seasoning and gets him sent down. Can't say I know much about Holm or the guy we got for Saarela but if someone told me we'd be talking more about a 27yro undrafted guy and a 24yro throw in than we are about Joker,Boqvist,Beaudin or Mitchell at this point a year or two ago.....I'd be disappointed and I am. edit: I meant to reply to OTH's post above yours,still figuring things out. |
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Post by irmaks on Nov 23, 2019 8:58:16 GMT -6
I like Holms game, gritty 2way dman, I'd much rather see him on the Hawks over Gus and Koekkoek. Holm had a nice set up on Kubaliks PP goal in the preseason, they've never tried that play again 🙄 Maybe they’ll get to team up again when Colliton decides Kubalik needs more seasoning and gets him sent down. As of now our seven defensemen should be Keith, Seabs, De Haan, Maata, Holm, Gilbert, Boquist. Gus and Koekook shouldn't be on a team now. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 23, 2019 9:07:17 GMT -6
Maybe they’ll get to team up again when Colliton decides Kubalik needs more seasoning and gets him sent down. As of now our seven defensemen should be Keith, Seabs, De Haan, Maata, Holm, Gilbert, Boquist. Gus and Koekook shouldn't be on a team now. I agree with gettin' a few kids in there but you left out Murphy. |
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Post by irmaks on Nov 23, 2019 9:13:52 GMT -6
As of now our seven defensemen should be Keith, Seabs, De Haan, Maata, Holm, Gilbert, Boquist. Gus and Koekook shouldn't be on a team now. I agree with gettin' a few kids in there but you left out Murphy. Thank you, my friend, of course, Murphy. I like him a lot. Maybe give Gilbert another year in minors , but point is Gus and Koekook prevent better players from playing |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 23, 2019 9:33:25 GMT -6
I agree with gettin' a few kids in there but you left out Murphy. Thank you, my friend, of course, Murphy. I like him a lot. Maybe give Gilbert another year in minors , but point is Gus and Koekook prevent better players from playing Murph's been our best D-man in our end and I'm happy he's signed for 3.8M for two more to be honest. Murphy's defensive play has been STELLAR recently and that makes the two additions redundant and Murph's a right shot too. Your point is spot on,moving those two would make room for Boq and Gilbert,they could platoon a bit,practice with the team,learn the system and we both know injuries are inevitable. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 23, 2019 14:13:47 GMT -6
Maybe they’ll get to team up again when Colliton decides Kubalik needs more seasoning and gets him sent down. Can't say I know much about Holm or the guy we got for Saarela but if someone told me we'd be talking more about a 27yro undrafted guy and a 24yro throw in than we are about Joker,Boqvist,Beaudin or Mitchell at this point a year or two ago.....I'd be disappointed and I am. edit: I meant to reply to OTH's post above yours,still figuring things out. Besides a couple bad penalties, Holm looked really good in the preseason and we've mentioned it a lot but Gus should've been traded in the summer and with how Holm looked in the preseason Gus should've been traded in the preseason, Holm would've been good till one of the kids you mentioned is ready. Koekkoek should've been let go. Those 2 are hurting the growth of the kids. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 23, 2019 14:46:07 GMT -6
Can't say I know much about Holm or the guy we got for Saarela but if someone told me we'd be talking more about a 27yro undrafted guy and a 24yro throw in than we are about Joker,Boqvist,Beaudin or Mitchell at this point a year or two ago.....I'd be disappointed and I am. edit: I meant to reply to OTH's post above yours,still figuring things out. Besides a couple bad penalties, Holm looked really good in the preseason and we've mentioned it a lot but Gus should've been traded in the summer and with how Holm looked in the preseason Gus should've been traded in the preseason, Holm would've been good till one of the kids you mentioned is ready. Koekkoek should've been let go. Those 2 are hurting the growth of the kids. Right now as it stands, the Hawks will get nothing substantial for either in a trade. So all that is left is to wait and see if at deadline time someone is desperate enough or we just let them walk as UFA's, Gus and RFA, CoCoPuffs. |
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