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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 11, 2023 20:12:13 GMT -6
I hope the Penguins miss the post season for this. A loss to the Jackets would be great. I had to listen to the Pens crew, they're massive homers. And they have a guy named Colby too. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 11, 2023 20:17:30 GMT -6
hopefully in under 4 weeks, we're laughing among ourselves that if we didn't lose that fckn' game to the pens, we wouldn't have got bedard.
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Post by phill9 on Apr 11, 2023 20:22:48 GMT -6
GT, if I'm reading the standings right, the Hawks could finish ahead of Columbus, Anaheim, AND San Jose. Think Hawks have the tiebreaker on San Jose too, and a Hawks win and 2 San Jose losses they both finish with 60 points
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 11, 2023 20:28:33 GMT -6
GT, if I'm reading the standings right, the Hawks could finish ahead of Columbus, Anaheim, AND San Jose. Think Hawks have the tiebreaker on San Jose too, and a Hawks win and 2 San Jose losses they both finish with 60 points Thats correct |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 11, 2023 20:28:47 GMT -6
AA game's first star was 10 of 17 at the dot. (he's 43.8% on the season before tonight)
5g, 4a last 7 games.
i wonder if he'd be a center if he signed on for another year? he seems to be playing his arse off lately.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 11, 2023 20:30:42 GMT -6
GT, if I'm reading the standings right, the Hawks could finish ahead of Columbus, Anaheim, AND San Jose. Think Hawks have the tiebreaker on San Jose too, and a Hawks win and 2 San Jose losses they both finish with 60 points i believe you are correct. |
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Post by phill9 on Apr 11, 2023 20:30:47 GMT -6
Vancouver up 1 - 0 on the ducks
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 11, 2023 20:31:48 GMT -6
looks like the flames will be eliminated tonight and they play Sharks tomorrow
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 11, 2023 20:32:43 GMT -6
looks like the flames will be eliminated tonight and they play Sharks tomorrow flames already eliminated yesterday. |
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Post by phill9 on Apr 11, 2023 20:38:42 GMT -6
Vancouver up 1 - 0 on the ducks 2 - 1 Vancouver |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 11, 2023 20:53:01 GMT -6
malkin was the penguins' only star of the game (3rd star).
tells you what kind of the game they had. he had 1 goal but was -4 on the night.
fckn' losers...
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 11, 2023 21:01:17 GMT -6
malkin was the penguins' only star of the game (3rd star). tells you what kind of the game they had. he had 1 goal but was -4 on the night. fckn' losers... Sux the Hawks won, but it couldn't have happened to better team than the Pens. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 11, 2023 21:02:02 GMT -6
murph set his PB in blocked shots/season (151) last game and a PB for goals/season tonight (7).
but the best PB imho was that tonight he played in his 79th game of the season, the most in a regular season ever for him.
hopefully his injury woes are behind him.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 11, 2023 21:38:39 GMT -6
murph set his PB in blocked shots/season (151) last game and a PB for goals/season tonight (7). but the best PB imho was that tonight he played in his 79th game of the season, the most in a regular season ever for him. hopefully his injury woes are behind him. All that will help if KD wants to move him before, or at the draft. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 11, 2023 21:40:26 GMT -6
Vancouver up 1 - 0 on the ducks 2 - 1 Vancouver 2-2 |
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Post by phill9 on Apr 11, 2023 22:40:29 GMT -6
Anaheim loses 3 - 2. Hawks now in 30th with a chance to catch San Jose next. |
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Post by Tater on Apr 12, 2023 1:19:16 GMT -6
Man, if it wasn't for the standings and draft pick, it would of been a hell of a lot more fun to watch that one.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 12, 2023 7:17:40 GMT -6
Whaaaaat? No way. Fuck sakes!!! Oh yeah, those assholes had the perfect night to ensure that they finished in last place, but they blow it and ensure only that they will be a major fucked up team for the next 10 years. Altho, one could be a Pens' fan and be forced to realize that they are also fucked up, but in a different way. Playoffs on the line, a home game against the worst team in the league and they lose. What a bunch of incompetent assholes. |
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Post by shooter61 on Apr 12, 2023 7:29:40 GMT -6
LOL Jack, assholes for wining a game , kinda harsh I think, we all want them to lose, but do you really think the players feel the same way ? they go out planning to win every game, Tanking is not in their DNA !
we, are the assholes for wanting them to loose, sure I'm pissed off, but at the Pens not the Hawks,
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 7:38:31 GMT -6
Man, if it wasn't for the standings and draft pick, it would of been a hell of a lot more fun to watch that one. It was fun to watch did you hear 3 future HOF getting booed off the ice by those shit fans . Good golly that was fun!!! |
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 12, 2023 8:02:09 GMT -6
Whaaaaat? No way. Fuck sakes!!! Oh yeah, those assholes had the perfect night to ensure that they finished in last place, but they blow it and ensure only that they will be a major fucked up team for the next 10 years. Altho, one could be a Pens' fan and be forced to realize that they are also fucked up, but in a different way. Playoffs on the line, a home game against the worst team in the league and they lose. What a bunch of incompetent assholes. I get your frustration. I think it was said here before that the tank job is on KD's shoulders. The players, on the other hand, might not be amenable to the tank because they have no benefit. A guy like Athanasiu is not going to be here by the time the 'hawks will be good again--so why should he shoot his game and the chance to be re-signed at a higher pay rate in the foot? Same for all our other guys. I don't think anyone on this squad is going to be here by the time the 'hawks are relevant again so them throwing a game is unlikely. It's ther management who has to put together a squad that is bad enough to lose most nights. Even so, being realistic here the 'hawks management did everything they could. They iced Mrazek. Mrazek, who since 2006 has the 2rd worst SV% for the 'hawks per season with 39+ games played...we're talking worse numbers than Huet...and yet the Pens couldn't light him up. By all accounts the 'hawks should have lost this one on paper. Unfortunately Crosby choked like he was sucking on Bettman's dick. Pittsburg's vet leadership, in a game where they are trying to make the playoffs and ice it against one of the worst teams in the league, blew it. Bigtime. All the more reason to hate them. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 12, 2023 11:00:39 GMT -6
Oh yeah, those assholes had the perfect night to ensure that they finished in last place, but they blow it and ensure only that they will be a major fucked up team for the next 10 years. Altho, one could be a Pens' fan and be forced to realize that they are also fucked up, but in a different way. Playoffs on the line, a home game against the worst team in the league and they lose. What a bunch of incompetent assholes. I get your frustration. I think it was said here before that the tank job is on KD's shoulders. The players, on the other hand, might not be amenable to the tank because they have no benefit. A guy like Athanasiu is not going to be here by the time the 'hawks will be good again--so why should he shoot his game and the chance to be re-signed at a higher pay rate in the foot? Same for all our other guys. I don't think anyone on this squad is going to be here by the time the 'hawks are relevant again so them throwing a game is unlikely. It's ther management who has to put together a squad that is bad enough to lose most nights. Even so, being realistic here the 'hawks management did everything they could. They iced Mrazek. Mrazek, who since 2006 has the 2rd worst SV% for the 'hawks per season with 39+ games played...we're talking worse numbers than Huet...and yet the Pens couldn't light him up. By all accounts the 'hawks should have lost this one on paper. Unfortunately Crosby choked like he was sucking on Bettman's dick. Pittsburg's vet leadership, in a game where they are trying to make the playoffs and ice it against one of the worst teams in the league, blew it. Bigtime. All the more reason to hate them. The only player who likely will be here when the Hawks are relevant is Seth Jones due to his contract and possibly Kaiser. You are right the rest are playing for their next contract. Jarry did not play well either, Could Murphy's shot have been any slower and not sure what he was doing on AA goal, Robinson was a bang bang shot and he reacted slowly. |
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Post by mvr on Apr 12, 2023 12:42:06 GMT -6
Davidson did not go far enough at the deadline to ensure the team would be in the top three.
To lock the team into that position, Murphy had to go without question. So did AA and one or two others.
We all knew this to be true. It did not happen, and this "failure" is on the general manager.....
Re last night's game. Toews always likes to play against Crosby. He checks him into submission and has won more than his share of battles over the years. I am not surprised the captain rose to the occasion. He had an incentive to prove something. I am still very much on the side of encouraging the team to re-sign Toews for next year. This is what he can bring to the table when motivated.
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 12, 2023 12:48:34 GMT -6
I get your frustration. I think it was said here before that the tank job is on KD's shoulders. The players, on the other hand, might not be amenable to the tank because they have no benefit. A guy like Athanasiu is not going to be here by the time the 'hawks will be good again--so why should he shoot his game and the chance to be re-signed at a higher pay rate in the foot? Same for all our other guys. I don't think anyone on this squad is going to be here by the time the 'hawks are relevant again so them throwing a game is unlikely. It's ther management who has to put together a squad that is bad enough to lose most nights. Even so, being realistic here the 'hawks management did everything they could. They iced Mrazek. Mrazek, who since 2006 has the 2rd worst SV% for the 'hawks per season with 39+ games played...we're talking worse numbers than Huet...and yet the Pens couldn't light him up. By all accounts the 'hawks should have lost this one on paper. Unfortunately Crosby choked like he was sucking on Bettman's dick. Pittsburg's vet leadership, in a game where they are trying to make the playoffs and ice it against one of the worst teams in the league, blew it. Bigtime. All the more reason to hate them. The only player who likely will be here when the Hawks are relevant is Seth Jones due to his contract and possibly Kaiser. You are right the rest are playing for their next contract. Jarry did not play well either, Could Murphy's shot have been any slower and not sure what he was doing on AA goal, Robinson was a bang bang shot and he reacted slowly. Jones may be here, yes. He might also be a 2nd tier guy as well and if we assume last draft was ground zero of the actual rebuild he might be on his last year of his deal. The rest? I think Rye or the Kaiser is in the same boat as Vassic, etc. who may be here, but they might also be fodder for trades to get needed depth pieces. We just don't know. The thing is, aside from Seth Jones almost everyone else will likely have a payday between now and then. So, why intentionally tank? I don't think any player would, nor was I expecting it. The tank job is mostly on KD's hands. Jarry has never impressed me as a netminder--his numbers overall are Meh but it's still somewhat early in his career and he did crest .920 once. His numbers this year are a step ahead of Mrazek's though. No matter how you slice it if Pittsburgh bothered to show up they should have taken us on paper--and by all accounts they should have. They didn't though and for that they deserve to be out of the playoffs and Crosby deserves to cry all summer. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 12, 2023 12:53:15 GMT -6
Davidson did not go far enough at the deadline to ensure the team would be in the top three. To lock the team into that position, Murphy had to go without question. So did AA and one or two others. We all knew this to be true. It did not happen, and this "failure" is on the general manager..... Re last night's game. Toews always likes to play against Crosby. He checks him into submission and has won more than his share of battles over the years. I am not surprised the captain rose to the occasion. He had an incentive to prove something. I am still very much on the side of encouraging the team to re-sign Toews for next year. This is what he can bring to the table when motivated. And if the asking price for Murphy put the 'hawks at an overall tank/rebuild disadvantage? Ditto with AA? I don't know the salients point of all the deals that fell through but it is possible nothing worthwhile could have been had, even if I wanted to see Murphy dumped a long time ago. The way I see the game is less that the 'hawks rose to the occasion and more like the Penguins choked and mailed it in. They played like the 2018 'hawks. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 12, 2023 14:30:04 GMT -6
LOL Jack, assholes for wining a game , kinda harsh I think, we all want them to lose, but do you really think the players feel the same way ? they go out planning to win every game, Tanking is not in their DNA ! we, are the assholes for wanting them to loose, sure I'm pissed off, but at the Pens not the Hawks, I don't disagree with anything you wrote. But, there is a time for winning and a time for losing. Now is not the time for winning. I have already explained before that I totally understand that players cannot be told to lose because they are playing for their future contracts and money. However, most of these guys will never amount to anything but a blurred memory of their time in the NHL. So, it is too bad that they cannot lose when a loss is needed. Personally, I think the Pens are the bigger assholes for losing such a game with their playoff lives on the line. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 12, 2023 14:33:47 GMT -6
Oh yeah, those assholes had the perfect night to ensure that they finished in last place, but they blow it and ensure only that they will be a major fucked up team for the next 10 years. Altho, one could be a Pens' fan and be forced to realize that they are also fucked up, but in a different way. Playoffs on the line, a home game against the worst team in the league and they lose. What a bunch of incompetent assholes. I get your frustration. I think it was said here before that the tank job is on KD's shoulders. The players, on the other hand, might not be amenable to the tank because they have no benefit. A guy like Athanasiu is not going to be here by the time the 'hawks will be good again--so why should he shoot his game and the chance to be re-signed at a higher pay rate in the foot? Same for all our other guys. I don't think anyone on this squad is going to be here by the time the 'hawks are relevant again so them throwing a game is unlikely. It's ther management who has to put together a squad that is bad enough to lose most nights. Even so, being realistic here the 'hawks management did everything they could. They iced Mrazek. Mrazek, who since 2006 has the 2rd worst SV% for the 'hawks per season with 39+ games played...we're talking worse numbers than Huet...and yet the Pens couldn't light him up. By all accounts the 'hawks should have lost this one on paper. Unfortunately Crosby choked like he was sucking on Bettman's dick. Pittsburg's vet leadership, in a game where they are trying to make the playoffs and ice it against one of the worst teams in the league, blew it. Bigtime. All the more reason to hate them. I have never liked the Penguins because they often had players who would always try to injure other players. But, I always thought they were quite competent. Now, it is pretty clear that they are clearly in need of either serious counseling or meds; and perhaps both. I don't hate them for losing. I am just totally amazed that they could be so incompetent and such a bunch of assholes. Maybe they are tired of getting their asses kicked out of the playoffs in the first round after their Cups; and just want to go home at the end of the regular season. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 12, 2023 15:29:51 GMT -6
I get your frustration. I think it was said here before that the tank job is on KD's shoulders. The players, on the other hand, might not be amenable to the tank because they have no benefit. A guy like Athanasiu is not going to be here by the time the 'hawks will be good again--so why should he shoot his game and the chance to be re-signed at a higher pay rate in the foot? Same for all our other guys. I don't think anyone on this squad is going to be here by the time the 'hawks are relevant again so them throwing a game is unlikely. It's ther management who has to put together a squad that is bad enough to lose most nights. Even so, being realistic here the 'hawks management did everything they could. They iced Mrazek. Mrazek, who since 2006 has the 2rd worst SV% for the 'hawks per season with 39+ games played...we're talking worse numbers than Huet...and yet the Pens couldn't light him up. By all accounts the 'hawks should have lost this one on paper. Unfortunately Crosby choked like he was sucking on Bettman's dick. Pittsburg's vet leadership, in a game where they are trying to make the playoffs and ice it against one of the worst teams in the league, blew it. Bigtime. All the more reason to hate them. I have never liked the Penguins because they often had players who would always try to injure other players. But, I always thought they were quite competent. Now, it is pretty clear that they are clearly in need of either serious counseling or meds; and perhaps both. I don't hate them for losing. I am just totally amazed that they could be so incompetent and such a bunch of assholes. Maybe they are tired of getting their asses kicked out of the playoffs in the first round after their Cups; and just want to go home at the end of the regular season. Maybe, who knows. But if we hold true the same thing for the current 'hawk roster that they are professionals and that as players, and that "throwing the big game is like porking your sister" (to quote the move "Hot Shots"), then there had to be something seriously wrong with the Pens to lose that game. It could be for the very reasons that you said. On paper though the Pens should have taken the 'hawks or at least not looked like they were lollygagging it like they did last night and all of them deserved to be Boo'ed off thew ice. But going back to what mvr stated, it was indeed the job of KD to ensure that for a tank, the team was bad enough. It kinds has me caught because on paper these guys are bad, but at the same time LR is coaching them quite well and instilling good habits--habits the 'hawks could have used from April 20-17 through the start of this season. Maybe my devil's advocate point was correct and some of the better guys couldn't be moved is correct, or maybe mvr is correct that KD was asking too much for guys like Murph. I think at this point the worst we can do is pick 6th--that is if we win and everyone San Jose and worse loses out, plus we lose in the lottery and drop two slots from 4th worst. Best case scenario is that we lose, everyone else wins, and pick 1-3 depending on the lotto. |
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Post by phill9 on Apr 12, 2023 18:00:12 GMT -6
If the Islanders win tonight, then it comes down to the Hawks screwed the Penguins for the short term (missing the playoffs) while the Penguins may have screwed the Hawks long term depending on where they end up drafting.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 12, 2023 18:51:45 GMT -6
If the Islanders win tonight, then it comes down to the Hawks screwed the Penguins for the short term (missing the playoffs) while the Penguins may have screwed the Hawks long term depending on where they end up drafting. rest assured that the Pens are screwed long term, too. they are in the beginning stages of what we are going through the last couple years... |
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