30
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 9, 2023 21:32:45 GMT -6
Feel horrible for Mrazek there. I feel the team is trying to make Bedard look good. I want the kid to earn everything he has. No need for Bedard to be out there on a pp when trying to preserve a shutout. Bedard wasn’t very good this game. It’s ok to bring the kid along slowly. Now the Blues are right back in it!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by LordKOTL on Dec 9, 2023 21:32:50 GMT -6
Mrazek needs to buy sone Rust-Oleum for the pipes.
|
|
|
|
Post by cudaman on Dec 9, 2023 21:33:18 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by B-A-Hawk on Dec 9, 2023 21:34:18 GMT -6
Two in a row !!
|
|
|
|
Post by tincup on Dec 9, 2023 21:34:38 GMT -6
Two good periods and another stellar performance by Mrazek gets what’s probably the weakest lineup in years the win.
|
|
|
|
Post by LordKOTL on Dec 9, 2023 21:34:44 GMT -6
Probably mentally counting the 9M he's stealing earning. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 9, 2023 21:34:56 GMT -6
It’s like they’re in desperation mode to get Bedard points. I think the tendy is part of the team, and he deserved a zero on the board!!! |
|
|
|
Post by cudaman on Dec 9, 2023 21:35:10 GMT -6
yep yep 2 in a row!
|
|
|
|
Post by LordKOTL on Dec 9, 2023 21:35:45 GMT -6
Feel horrible for Mrazek there. I feel the team is trying to make Bedard look good. I want the kid to earn everything he has. No need for Bedard to be out there on a pp when trying to preserve a shutout. Bedard wasn’t very good this game. It’s ok to bring the kid along slowly. Now the Blues are right back in it!!! Except the goal against was all on Jones, who also wasn't very good this game. Runblad played better D. |
|
|
|
Post by tincup on Dec 9, 2023 21:38:03 GMT -6
Glad to see Zaitsev get recognized, Vlasic should have got the third star, Beauvillier’s sweater got a goal.
|
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 9, 2023 21:39:25 GMT -6
Probably mentally counting the 9M he's stealing earning. I think Jones has been great this year. Without him, the Hawks would have 4 less wins. He is human after all. And the team does suck. But he’s relied on quite a bit. He was out there the last 5 mins it seemed. Maybe GT can pluck out how much ice he got? And how much he got in the last 5 mins!!! |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 9, 2023 21:41:57 GMT -6
Feel horrible for Mrazek there. I feel the team is trying to make Bedard look good. I want the kid to earn everything he has. No need for Bedard to be out there on a pp when trying to preserve a shutout. Bedard wasn’t very good this game. It’s ok to bring the kid along slowly. Now the Blues are right back in it!!! Except the goal against was all on Jones, who also wasn't very good this game. Runblad played better D. I disagree. When the Blues pulled the tendy. Jones was out there for the whole duration. Shitty coaching put him out there tired on a gawd dam pp. why? He just payed a 2.5 min shift. Yet a pp was in store? I will come straight out and say that Luke isn’t here long term. He’s here for the rebuild and I think he’ll get tossed after next year. His bench management is awful at best!!! |
|
|
|
Post by tincup on Dec 9, 2023 21:43:57 GMT -6
Probably mentally counting the 9M he's stealing earning. I think Jones has been great this year. Without him, the Hawks would have 4 less wins. He is human after all. And the team does suck. But he’s relied on quite a bit. He was out there the last 5 mins it seemed. Maybe GT can pluck out how much ice he got? And how much he got in the last 5 mins!!! 26:55, season avg. 25:12. Crevier and Zaitsev never left the bench last five minutes or more. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 9, 2023 21:48:30 GMT -6
I think Jones has been great this year. Without him, the Hawks would have 4 less wins. He is human after all. And the team does suck. But he’s relied on quite a bit. He was out there the last 5 mins it seemed. Maybe GT can pluck out how much ice he got? And how much he got in the last 5 mins!!! 26:55, season avg. 25:12. Crevier and Zaitsev never left the bench last five minutes or more. I seen Jones out there for the whole time the tendy was pulled. Roughly 5 mins left. It lasted 2.5 mins. Then Foligno got tripped and Jones stayed out for the pp. it was awful bench management. I like Luke. But it seems he gets out classed most nights. Sure the team plays hard ( sometimes). But I’m not liking his style at all. Hopefully he can make adjustments and stop leaning on tired guys or guys that aren’t going. How great of a message would it have been to send to Bedard that he’s not going out the final 5 mins? PP or not? But he caters to him and ruins the tendys shutout!!! |
|
|
|
Post by tincup on Dec 9, 2023 21:48:57 GMT -6
Except the goal against was all on Jones, who also wasn't very good this game. Runblad played better D. I disagree. When the Blues pulled the tendy. Jones was out there for the whole duration. Shitty coaching put him out there tired on a gawd dam pp. why? He just payed a 2.5 min shift. Yet a pp was in store? I will come straight out and say that Luke isn’t here long term. He’s here for the rebuild and I think he’ll get tossed after next year. His bench management is awful at best!!! I agree on the overuse of Jones at the end. Especially when St. Louis is dangerous short handed. Didn’t need a goal, just needed a clean two minutes. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 9, 2023 21:55:03 GMT -6
I disagree. When the Blues pulled the tendy. Jones was out there for the whole duration. Shitty coaching put him out there tired on a gawd dam pp. why? He just payed a 2.5 min shift. Yet a pp was in store? I will come straight out and say that Luke isn’t here long term. He’s here for the rebuild and I think he’ll get tossed after next year. His bench management is awful at best!!! I agree on the overuse of Jones at the end. Especially when St. Louis is dangerous short handed. Didn’t need a goal, just needed a clean two minutes. Exactly. Stop catering to players on this team. Jones does not need to be developed. Vlasic played solid game. Zaitsev too. Jones was tired. Develop guys that need it. Jones will be fine!!! |
|
|
|
Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 9, 2023 22:51:33 GMT -6
Feel horrible for Mrazek there. I feel the team is trying to make Bedard look good. I want the kid to earn everything he has. No need for Bedard to be out there on a pp when trying to preserve a shutout. Bedard wasn’t very good this game. It’s ok to bring the kid along slowly. Now the Blues are right back in it!!! How is it Bedards fault Jones tried to shoot it through a defender? Jones turning it over on the PP isn't something new and has nothing to do with Bedard. |
|
|
|
Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 9, 2023 23:08:34 GMT -6
Well they played more physical then they have most of the year. A perfect win almost a shut out and everyone gets to continue to whip #4 for one play good grief. Maybe just keep Lucas with Mac all year. Creature really played smart tonight times when he could have went puck chasing he stayed in front of net! Issac was also all over the place great game from him. Quick turn around lets be ready tomorrow!!
|
|
|
|
Post by jacksalmon on Dec 9, 2023 23:09:06 GMT -6
Hey, two in a row! Too bad for Mrazek. I guess they might be getting better as just a couple of weeks ago they lost to the this weak-ass Blues team, 4-2. Are the Hawks getting better defensively? Now, they get a win that should have been a shutout. But, frankly, I wish they will stop playing these teams that are so weak offensively. It makes for a boring game to see two weak offenses going at each other.
Coming up tomorrow is a Cap team that get this: HAS SCORED FEWER GOALS THIS SEASON THAN THE HAWKS, 60 TO 63. Talk about a weak-ass offense, they will be showing up tomorrow night. Then, we finally get a team, Edmonton, on Tuesday, that actually has an offense. It will be interesting to see how the Hawks perform against them. But, in the meantime, maybe they can get three in a row tomorrow against the hapless Caps. With only scoring 60 goals, the Caps still have a winning record. At this rate, Ovy will beat Gretzky's record in 2038, if he can play that long. Oh well, it's nice to see 2 in a row, even if was against two weak teams. But, hey, they had been losing game to weak teams. Now, they are winning them, so keep it going tomorrow.
|
|
|
|
Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 9, 2023 23:49:23 GMT -6
Well they played more physical then they have most of the year. A perfect win almost a shut out and everyone gets to continue to whip #4 for one play good grief. Maybe just keep Lucas with Mac all year. Creature really played smart tonight times when he could have went puck chasing he stayed in front of net! Issac was also all over the place great game from him. Quick turn around lets be ready tomorrow!! When a guy making 9.5 makes a bad decision like that on the PP that leads to a goal against that broke a shutout, hell yeah he's getting criticized. |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on Dec 10, 2023 7:31:43 GMT -6
We should not put too much stock in last night's victory.
Too many of the Central Time Zone team games are really almost predetermined by the schedule makers.
The Hawks were rested and playing at home. St Louis had played the night before on the road, and this game their third in four nights and second back to back.
Some day, I am going to start putting money down on these games. We all should. The league needs to be aware that we are not stupid.
|
|
|
|
Post by hawkinmontreal on Dec 10, 2023 7:37:32 GMT -6
Yea we can blame Jones for his mistakes that caused Peter the shut out, has he done that before yes, was it a bad decision yes, I am sure he realizes that. Seth has been playing well this year and doing everything he can in his role as a vet defender. Having Bedard out there on the PP was not a poor decision, this is his team, he controls the offensive side of the ice for this young team, he is learning just like everyone else. Just because he is a bonafide superstar in the making doesn’t mean he can’t learn. I am almost positive by next season, Bedard will be a better player in both zones, I am sure Luke and company aren’t really judging him on defensive abilities or lack there of at this point. Take a look at Pat Kane in his first NHL season, they aren’t the same player however Savard let Kane play the same way before Q took over.
|
|
|
|
Post by hawkinmontreal on Dec 10, 2023 7:41:47 GMT -6
Well they played more physical then they have most of the year. A perfect win almost a shut out and everyone gets to continue to whip #4 for one play good grief. Maybe just keep Lucas with Mac all year. Creature really played smart tonight times when he could have went puck chasing he stayed in front of net! Issac was also all over the place great game from him. Quick turn around lets be ready tomorrow!! When a guy making 9.5 makes a bad decision like that on the PP that leads to a goal against that broke a shutout, hell yeah he's getting criticized. It was a bad decision, his salary doesn’t change that, that is exactly what the team needs to stop doing, this certainly is not the first time our d-men have done that which led to a goal,or a odd man rush the opposite way. |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on Dec 10, 2023 8:02:26 GMT -6
Did the coaching staff huddle the young players together and remind them the score before the start of the powerplay?
If not, why not?
There is no justification for a three-on-one counter rush shorthanded with that little time left in the game and the score 3-0.
Sure, Jones made a dumb low percentage play. Perhaps he was tired and not thinking clearly, as Big T pointed out. But where was everyone else? Why was everyone playing deep in the zone? Who cares about adding another goal at this point? To my mind, the coaching staff had the wrong personnel on the ice and had not properly prepared them for what they were supposed to be doing.
|
|
|
|
Post by T-man2010 on Dec 10, 2023 9:26:36 GMT -6
Did the coaching staff huddle the young players together and remind them the score before the start of the powerplay? If not, why not? There is no justification for a three-on-one counter rush shorthanded with that little time left in the game and the score 3-0. Sure, Jones made a dumb low percentage play. Perhaps he was tired and not thinking clearly, as Big T pointed out. But where was everyone else? Why was everyone playing deep in the zone? Who cares about adding another goal at this point? To my mind, the coaching staff had the wrong personnel on the ice and had not properly prepared them for what they were supposed to be doing. Was also odd that on the PP they had 2 d-men out there. Usually that would be the 2nd unit PP with 2 D-men. The D was pinching in all evening, they need their D to activate more. Mistakes will be made, and many growing pains for us. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 10, 2023 9:51:30 GMT -6
Feel horrible for Mrazek there. I feel the team is trying to make Bedard look good. I want the kid to earn everything he has. No need for Bedard to be out there on a pp when trying to preserve a shutout. Bedard wasn’t very good this game. It’s ok to bring the kid along slowly. Now the Blues are right back in it!!! How is it Bedards fault Jones tried to shoot it through a defender? Jones turning it over on the PP isn't something new and has nothing to do with Bedard. It’s not Bedards fault. But he feels the need to throw out that pp and make Bedard look relevant on the score sheet. Dicky has been the teams best player the last month. He deserved the ice time. So did Vlasic, Zaitsev. It would a been better to help preserve the shutout instead of looking for a goal that wasn’t going impact the game. I may be wrong here. But Bedard also threw an absolute grenade cross ice, and that player who received it had little time and fumble fucked it back to Jones and he had to desperately dive at it. The whole thing was avoidable. Now, tonight is one thing. Maybe next time they’re up by 1 goal, and the same thing results in a loss. For all the bitching I hear around here that the team sucks. There’s one area right there that could be cleaned up and Garner a few more wins!!! |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on Dec 10, 2023 9:54:34 GMT -6
Did the coaching staff huddle the young players together and remind them the score before the start of the powerplay? If not, why not? There is no justification for a three-on-one counter rush shorthanded with that little time left in the game and the score 3-0. Sure, Jones made a dumb low percentage play. Perhaps he was tired and not thinking clearly, as Big T pointed out. But where was everyone else? Why was everyone playing deep in the zone? Who cares about adding another goal at this point? To my mind, the coaching staff had the wrong personnel on the ice and had not properly prepared them for what they were supposed to be doing. I fully agree. These are moves my kids shitty Peewee Major coach makes. And it usually ends in a loss or a tie after we had 2 hatricks on our team!!! |
|
|
|
Post by ukhawk on Dec 10, 2023 11:13:29 GMT -6
Glad to see Zaitsev get recognized, Vlasic should have got the third star, Beauvillier’s sweater got a goal. Really starting to like Zaitsev, always seems to have lots of space and be in the right place offensively |
|
|
|
Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 10, 2023 11:59:57 GMT -6
Glad to see Zaitsev get recognized, Vlasic should have got the third star, Beauvillier’s sweater got a goal. Really starting to like Zaitsev, always seems to have lots of space and be in the right place offensively I dont know if I like him but last night was a darn good game! played well in last couple. |
|
|
|
Post by LordKOTL on Dec 10, 2023 12:04:58 GMT -6
Probably mentally counting the 9M he's stealing earning. I think Jones has been great this year. Without him, the Hawks would have 4 less wins. He is human after all. And the team does suck. But he’s relied on quite a bit. He was out there the last 5 mins it seemed. Maybe GT can pluck out how much ice he got? And how much he got in the last 5 mins!!! You can blame LR if you want (I won't argue with that), but Jones caused the turnover with a dumb play and Jones was caught up ice leaving Vlassic to cover a 3-1 against while up a man. Ultimately, Jones made the decision to play beyond his current ability and got caught - be it trying to force a play to Bedard or not. He left Mrazek and Vlassic out to dry. I don't think he's been great. He's had 2 good games this year and the rest has been meh. He is relied upon to much (we had the same issue with Keith in his later years), and yes, that is on LR. But Jones has been nowhere near great in my opinion. He needs to play smarter. |
|
