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Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 10, 2023 12:08:38 GMT -6
Glad to see Zaitsev get recognized, Vlasic should have got the third star, Beauvillier’s sweater got a goal. Really starting to like Zaitsev, always seems to have lots of space and be in the right place offensively I've liked him since his first game as a Hawk. He definitely doesn't warrant 4mill but he's got good size and plays smart defensively. Good 6-7 dman and at half price he could fetch a 3rd rounder or mid level prospect. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 10, 2023 12:10:46 GMT -6
Anyone else notice the clowns in the booth both saying Zaitsev now leads the Hawks in goals by dmen? Guess they forgot Korchinski has 2.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 10, 2023 12:24:57 GMT -6
I think Jones has been great this year. Without him, the Hawks would have 4 less wins. He is human after all. And the team does suck. But he’s relied on quite a bit. He was out there the last 5 mins it seemed. Maybe GT can pluck out how much ice he got? And how much he got in the last 5 mins!!! You can blame LR if you want (I won't argue with that), but Jones caused the turnover with a dumb play and Jones was caught up ice leaving Vlassic to cover a 3-1 against while up a man. Ultimately, Jones made the decision to play beyond his current ability and got caught - be it trying to force a play to Bedard or not. He left Mrazek and Vlassic out to dry. I don't think he's been great. He's had 2 good games this year and the rest has been meh. He is relied upon to much (we had the same issue with Keith in his later years), and yes, that is on LR. But Jones has been nowhere near great in my opinion. He needs to play smarter. Thought he has played fantastic except for a couple games. Yes at times he tries to do to much and on this team I dont have a problem with him doing that. Just gonna be a player we dont agree on. I also think he is a great mentor for the kids I know some on this board dont think so and thats ok I respect all opinions. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 10, 2023 13:16:48 GMT -6
You can blame LR if you want (I won't argue with that), but Jones caused the turnover with a dumb play and Jones was caught up ice leaving Vlassic to cover a 3-1 against while up a man. Ultimately, Jones made the decision to play beyond his current ability and got caught - be it trying to force a play to Bedard or not. He left Mrazek and Vlassic out to dry. I don't think he's been great. He's had 2 good games this year and the rest has been meh. He is relied upon to much (we had the same issue with Keith in his later years), and yes, that is on LR. But Jones has been nowhere near great in my opinion. He needs to play smarter. Thought he has played fantastic except for a couple games. Yes at times he tries to do to much and on this team I dont have a problem with him doing that. Just gonna be a player we dont agree on. I also think he is a great mentor for the kids I know some on this board dont think so and thats ok I respect all opinions. If Jones would get the balance of taking chances and smarter play on the D side he'd be great, like he did in the couple of good games he had this year--especially since Vlassic has been great on the D side of the puck and can realistically cover for him when he pushes the O... Much like the old Campbell/Hjammer combo. When Jones does take ill-thought-out chances, he leaves his partner out to dry, and the netminder. This is magnified because Vlassic is still young (not a prime Hjammer, yet) and Korch is a similar O-biased D-man who will not be able to cover if the play goes sideways. T has a point about LR misusing him and overplaying him, but ultimately Jones needs to play within his abilities at any given moment. We got pissed when guys like Rosival and Seabrook would pinch too far down leaving their partners high and dry when they had no hope of getting back to defend even if they had a JATO firing out their asses; Jones is doing the same thing. Ahh well. Spilled milk at this point. Onward to Washington. |
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