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Post by squishy24 on Dec 20, 2023 12:36:24 GMT -6
Then what's your explanation of this dreadful,one goal road loss jack? This one game out of eighty two proves the team is totally weak? What'd their 6-2 win the game before prove? It's a long season and teams take their foot off the gas occasionally and it catches-up with them occasionally.........and then they carry on. But you know this as well as I do. Oh yeah, I can accept the fact that they didn't give a shit about this game and so they lost. But, to assign their loss to the fact that it was their 3d game in 4 nights when they only play 20 minutes per night is total BS, in my opinion. As I said, 20 minutes per night----BFD!!!! That ain't no marathon. I was a serious athlete for many years and I know what it is like to play 20 minutes per night-----it ain't hard. Christ, I used to play ratball 2 hours per day, 6 days per week and I played with serious intensity. I am not saying I was a pro. I am only saying whether one is a pro, or a wannabee, like myself, playing any sport 20 minutes per night ain't shit. we need to put an asterisk on this W. that means they played a team who played their 3rd game in 4 nights. the standings will be more accurate |
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Post by 2old4this on Dec 20, 2023 12:54:44 GMT -6
Blackwell should get a star. Can’t believe Johansson didn’t get an extra two for the free shot to Blackwell’s face. IIRC, he also hit the official in the head trying to get at Blackwekk. He should have been ejected. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 20, 2023 15:15:43 GMT -6
Gotta take them when we can MVR the excitement im sure wont last more than 1 game but this year gotta take them whenever we get them. I think we are well aware of what this team is. We do tend to have this narcissist attitude about our team. When the Hawks win, we all tend to congratulate the guys for playing well. When they lose, it is because they played badly. We forget that the opponent also represents 50% of the equation. On those rare occasions when the Hawks win this year, it is largely because the opposition lacks interest or effort. Ten years ago when Toews, Kane and Keith were at their peak, it tended to be the opposite. I remember a road game against the the dismal Oilers where Sam Gagner scored eight points. The team looked exhausted that night and was not into it at all. The old we want 10 game I would not call the 2011 Hawks team at there peak but I get what you are saying. Still I dont know how that second goal looked on TV but I got a chubby out if it. Perfect stretch pass by Roos perfect chip in by Dananto 2 forwards entering O zone with speed then a great pass and finish. I understand the 3 in 4 nights but its not like they were on back to backs. 29 and 13 sure looked like they gave a crap in the 3rd just thought it would be easy I understand a game in december means nothing to them but I am sure Sakic was like shit I better find a second line center. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 20, 2023 15:35:11 GMT -6
Don’t usually hear a player be so candid about his teammates as Toews is here…I think they’re shocked about losing to the Hawks tonight.. Kinda reminded me of Johnny Toews circa 2007/2008 calling the squad out for "Not hating to lose enough." Sometimes that's what it takes. Before we get too excited, let's recognize this was the Avalanche's third game in four nights, playing on the road against a rested Blackhawks team after crossing an international border two nights before. In other words, the victory was largely pre-determined by the schedule makers (just like the one last week). I am not trying to burst anyone's bubble here.....it is what it is. These schedule quirks do even out, but the Central Division teams play them more than others. You have a point, but you have to take them where you can get them, and momentum/energy can be a good thing even if it comes with a caveat. Even if the Avs played a bad game, the team stuck it out on won--they fought well in the game. Sure, it might have been us pushing the limits of our squad against a team that tried to play down to the competition and played down too much, but it's something to build from. I'll take this game against the Avs and something to build off of way more than I'll take the complete pants-downer from the head coach on down that was the Seattle match. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Dec 20, 2023 16:54:38 GMT -6
Good win for the boys
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Post by nighbor on Dec 21, 2023 5:05:30 GMT -6
Avs greater than Hawks and Avs were playing without their best D but we were minus three of our better ones. This being their 3rd game in 4 nights doesn't demish the fact that the Hawks played harder for a full 60 minutes. It must be remembered that our team at times is fragile and we were vulnerable when after taking the lead the team was immediately scored upon on two consecutive penalties.
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Post by hsbob on Dec 21, 2023 10:26:14 GMT -6
Then what's your explanation of this dreadful,one goal road loss jack? This one game out of eighty two proves the team is totally weak? What'd their 6-2 win the game before prove? It's a long season and teams take their foot off the gas occasionally and it catches-up with them occasionally.........and then they carry on. But you know this as well as I do. Oh yeah, I can accept the fact that they didn't give a shit about this game and so they lost. But, to assign their loss to the fact that it was their 3d game in 4 nights when they only play 20 minutes per night is total BS, in my opinion. As I said, 20 minutes per night----BFD!!!! That ain't no marathon. I was a serious athlete for many years and I know what it is like to play 20 minutes per night-----it ain't hard. Christ, I used to play ratball 2 hours per day, 6 days per week and I played with serious intensity. I am not saying I was a pro. I am only saying whether one is a pro, or a wannabee, like myself, playing any sport 20 minutes per night ain't shit. If I don't know that you're prone to hyperbole by now jack.......shame on me. Twenty minutes of NHL ice-time per game is a BFD whether you think so or not,it leads most teams as far as forwards for a reason. As far as fatigue,I'll admit it's a bit early in the season for it,and in your defense as far as the Avs effort.......Devon Toews didn't like it either. If a contender takes their foot off the gas against a few weaker opponents throughout the long,grueling season to have something left for the PO's and it bites em in the ass once or twice along the way,does that mean they don't give a shit? Or do they just move on from a needed wake-up call? For the record,I don't give a Rat's ass about the Avs and I don't have excuses because teams lose games they shouldn't all the time in hockey. The same night saw LV lose,the Leafs lose at home and Boston lose at home to MN.........these losses mean nothing come March. Didn't you ever have an off day playing ratball? |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 21, 2023 10:42:22 GMT -6
Avs greater than Hawks and Avs were playing without their best D but we were minus three of our better ones. This being their 3rd game in 4 nights doesn't demish the fact that the Hawks played harder for a full 60 minutes. It must be remembered that our team at times is fragile and we were vulnerable when after taking the lead the team was immediately scored upon on two consecutive penalties. I thought the one goal loss to the 22-9-2 Canucks the game before was also a good effort,and coming on the heels of the two poor games before show's the HC has the ability to motivate his undermanned team IMO. |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 21, 2023 11:03:50 GMT -6
We do tend to have this narcissist attitude about our team. When the Hawks win, we all tend to congratulate the guys for playing well. When they lose, it is because they played badly. We forget that the opponent also represents 50% of the equation. On those rare occasions when the Hawks win this year, it is largely because the opposition lacks interest or effort. Ten years ago when Toews, Kane and Keith were at their peak, it tended to be the opposite. I remember a road game against the the dismal Oilers where Sam Gagner scored eight points. The team looked exhausted that night and was not into it at all. The old we want 10 game I would not call the 2011 Hawks team at there peak but I get what you are saying. Still I dont know how that second goal looked on TV but I got a chubby out if it. Perfect stretch pass by Roos perfect chip in by Dananto 2 forwards entering O zone with speed then a great pass and finish. I understand the 3 in 4 nights but its not like they were on back to backs. 29 and 13 sure looked like they gave a crap in the 3rd just thought it would be easy I understand a game in december means nothing to them but I am sure Sakic was like shit I better find a second line center. That really was a nice chip by Donato! There's a reason the guy got that warm reception in Seattle and they miss him and Sprong both this year. Donato potted 14 last year in a 4th line,11min per game role with a stellar +16 and potted 16 the year before. IMO,he was a dandy UFA bargan @27 and for 2M for 2 years......I wish it was 4 years. Next time you watch a game on TV,check-out the Hawkscast on NSC+,they only isolate on a single player at a time throughout the broadcast,which takes a bit gettin' used to but is a different experience all together. They were obviously isolating on Bedard every time out and that play in particular was an EYE-OPENER from that perspective. It really shows the speed he plays the game with and if Reichel isn't fast too,he isn't there to finish that sweet dish......I'd keep him there and Donato too as long as it's working. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 21, 2023 17:16:49 GMT -6
Oh yeah, I can accept the fact that they didn't give a shit about this game and so they lost. But, to assign their loss to the fact that it was their 3d game in 4 nights when they only play 20 minutes per night is total BS, in my opinion. As I said, 20 minutes per night----BFD!!!! That ain't no marathon. I was a serious athlete for many years and I know what it is like to play 20 minutes per night-----it ain't hard. Christ, I used to play ratball 2 hours per day, 6 days per week and I played with serious intensity. I am not saying I was a pro. I am only saying whether one is a pro, or a wannabee, like myself, playing any sport 20 minutes per night ain't shit. If I don't know that you're prone to hyperbole by now jack.......shame on me. Twenty minutes of NHL ice-time per game is a BFD whether you think so or not,it leads most teams as far as forwards for a reason. As far as fatigue,I'll admit it's a bit early in the season for it,and in your defense as far as the Avs effort.......Devon Toews didn't like it either. If a contender takes their foot off the gas against a few weaker opponents throughout the long,grueling season to have something left for the PO's and it bites em in the ass once or twice along the way,does that mean they don't give a shit? Or do they just move on from a needed wake-up call? For the record,I don't give a Rat's ass about the Avs and I don't have excuses because teams lose games they shouldn't all the time in hockey. The same night saw LV lose,the Leafs lose at home and Boston lose at home to MN.........these losses mean nothing come March. Didn't you ever have an off day playing ratball? I can totally accept the fact that they might have not given a shit about this game. I can also accept that they had a off day, just like I had one, or two, playing ratball. But, what I couldn't accept was the explanation that the Avs were suffering from fatigue from playing 20 minutes in 3 out of 4 nights. I will still contend that isn't much energy to expend for a prime athlete who is in peak condition. But, my main takeaway was that the diminished Hawks with very little talent stayed with the big, bad Avs the entire game and eventually prevailed. Do I think the Hawks would win a 7 game series? No, in fact, they would likely get swept. But, on this night they beat the Avs and that counts for quite a bit with this team that is already depleted and stuck with less than stellar talent. Good for them to win it. |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 22, 2023 8:31:18 GMT -6
If I don't know that you're prone to hyperbole by now jack.......shame on me. Twenty minutes of NHL ice-time per game is a BFD whether you think so or not,it leads most teams as far as forwards for a reason. As far as fatigue,I'll admit it's a bit early in the season for it,and in your defense as far as the Avs effort.......Devon Toews didn't like it either. If a contender takes their foot off the gas against a few weaker opponents throughout the long,grueling season to have something left for the PO's and it bites em in the ass once or twice along the way,does that mean they don't give a shit? Or do they just move on from a needed wake-up call? For the record,I don't give a Rat's ass about the Avs and I don't have excuses because teams lose games they shouldn't all the time in hockey. The same night saw LV lose,the Leafs lose at home and Boston lose at home to MN.........these losses mean nothing come March. Didn't you ever have an off day playing ratball? I can totally accept the fact that they might have not given a shit about this game. I can also accept that they had a off day, just like I had one, or two, playing ratball. But, what I couldn't accept was the explanation that the Avs were suffering from fatigue from playing 20 minutes in 3 out of 4 nights. I will still contend that isn't much energy to expend for a prime athlete who is in peak condition. But, my main takeaway was that the diminished Hawks with very little talent stayed with the big, bad Avs the entire game and eventually prevailed. Do I think the Hawks would win a 7 game series? No, in fact, they would likely get swept. But, on this night they beat the Avs and that counts for quite a bit with this team that is already depleted and stuck with less than stellar talent. Good for them to win it. That's a more reasonable take on the game IMO,but I enjoy your more color descriptions too jack! Some strange stuff in hockey this year my friend,the Sabres follow-up allowing NINE to the powerhouse from Columbus by scoring NINE against the Laughs. |
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Post by steamer on Dec 22, 2023 8:41:03 GMT -6
MacKinnon scored 4 goals last night against Sens - guess he for his legs back!
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