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Post by hsbob on Jan 12, 2024 14:59:46 GMT -6
The Good Raise your hand if you saw the Jets leading the west with the league's best record and 2nd best +44 goal differential or if you thought Vancouver would have an eight point strangle-hold on the Pacific,the 2nd best record and league best +54 goal diff at this point. Aging Boston loses Bergeron,Krejci,Hall,Foligno,Bertuzzi and Orlov yet they lead the East with a .700 P%. Cap-starved Florida loses Gudas and Duclair,Ekblad's missed 17 games with just 1gl/9pts,Montour's missed 16 games with 1gl/7pts and Tkachuk has 12 goals,7 coming in the last three games,yet they're taking good teams apart. The Flyers are on a 96pt pace after finishing with 74 last year but that'll happen when you acquire a 24yro 6' 1" 210lb power forward who can do this...... www.nhl.com/news/nhl-edge-stats-owen-tippett-reaches-top-skating-speed-of-seasonI liked Owen Tippett when he was on the Cats despite pedestrian offensive numbers his first two years,big forwards can take a bit more time and this one only needed more opportunity. ANOTHER example of a team parting with a highly talented,young player! The Bad Buffalo finished last year with 91pts,2nd best 296 goals for,poor goaltending,weak defensive structure and a shit ton of cap space. The half-way mark is not kind to the Sabres,finding them on a 79pt and 247 GF pace BUT,they still have poor goaltending(a 22yro and a 24yro.....REALLY?),the same,weak defensive structure and and an even bigger shit ton of cap-space. It's amazing they draw any of those abused fans at this point. Th Ugly Ottawa used SEVEN goaltenders and did w/o their #1 center on their way to 86pts last year and looked to be a young team 'on the come'. The team signed their 4MX5 GT and their back-up is healthy,Norris has played all but 4gms,Sanderson and many other young players have another year of experience and they added Tarasenko and Kubalik this year. The results are as follows,a fired GM,a fired HC and the 3rd worst record in the league........TWO more wins than the Hawks at this point! They haven't had Pinto but Grieg has played well for a rook and we all know they can't miss a 'one trick pony' like D-Cat. |
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Post by Nikos on Jan 12, 2024 15:07:25 GMT -6
The Good Raise your hand if you saw the Jets leading the west with the league's best record and 2nd best +44 goal differential or if you thought Vancouver would have an eight point strangle-hold on the Pacific,the 2nd best record and league best +54 goal diff at this point. Aging Boston loses Bergeron,Krejci,Hall,Foligno,Bertuzzi and Orlov yet they lead the East with a .700 P%. Cap-starved Florida loses Gudas and Duclair,Ekblad's missed 17 games with just 1gl/9pts,Montour's missed 16 games with 1gl/7pts and Tkachuk has 12 goals,7 coming in the last three games,yet they're taking good teams apart. The Flyers are on a 96pt pace after finishing with 74 last year but that'll happen when you acquire a 24yro 6' 1" 210lb power forward who can do this...... www.nhl.com/news/nhl-edge-stats-owen-tippett-reaches-top-skating-speed-of-seasonI liked Owen Tippett when he was on the Cats despite pedestrian offensive numbers his first two years,big forwards can take a bit more time and this one only needed more opportunity. ANOTHER example of a team parting with a highly talented.young player! The Bad Buffalo finished last year with 91pts,2nd best 296 goals for,poor goaltending,weak defensive structure and a shit ton of cap space. The half-way mark is not kind to the Sabres,finding them on a 79pt and 247 GF pace BUT,they still have poor goaltending(a 22yro and a 24yro.....REALLY?),the same,weak defensive structure and and an even bigger shit ton of cap-space. It's amazing they draw any of those abused fans at this point. Th Ugly Ottawa used SEVEN goaltenders and did w/o their #1 center on their way to 86pts last year and looked to be a young team 'on the come'. The team signed their 4MX5 GT and their back-up is healthy,Norris has played all but 4gms,Sanderson and many other young players have another year of experience and they added Tarasenko and Kubalik this year. The results are as follows,a fired GM,a fired HC and the 3rd worst record in the league........TWO more wins than the Hawks at this point! They haven't had Pinto but Grieg has played well for a rook and we all know they can't miss a 'one trick pony' like D-Cat. Off the top of my head and 50,000' view, I really do not have the stats like hsbob, Vancouver very strong start off the gate and looking like a playoff contender is a bit of a surprise where they are for me. |
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Post by steamer on Jan 13, 2024 14:37:05 GMT -6
The Good Raise your hand if you saw the Jets leading the west with the league's best record and 2nd best +44 goal differential or if you thought Vancouver would have an eight point strangle-hold on the Pacific,the 2nd best record and league best +54 goal diff at this point. Aging Boston loses Bergeron,Krejci,Hall,Foligno,Bertuzzi and Orlov yet they lead the East with a .700 P%. Cap-starved Florida loses Gudas and Duclair,Ekblad's missed 17 games with just 1gl/9pts,Montour's missed 16 games with 1gl/7pts and Tkachuk has 12 goals,7 coming in the last three games,yet they're taking good teams apart. The Flyers are on a 96pt pace after finishing with 74 last year but that'll happen when you acquire a 24yro 6' 1" 210lb power forward who can do this...... www.nhl.com/news/nhl-edge-stats-owen-tippett-reaches-top-skating-speed-of-seasonI liked Owen Tippett when he was on the Cats despite pedestrian offensive numbers his first two years,big forwards can take a bit more time and this one only needed more opportunity. ANOTHER example of a team parting with a highly talented,young player! The Bad Buffalo finished last year with 91pts,2nd best 296 goals for,poor goaltending,weak defensive structure and a shit ton of cap space. The half-way mark is not kind to the Sabres,finding them on a 79pt and 247 GF pace BUT,they still have poor goaltending(a 22yro and a 24yro.....REALLY?),the same,weak defensive structure and and an even bigger shit ton of cap-space. It's amazing they draw any of those abused fans at this point. Th Ugly Ottawa used SEVEN goaltenders and did w/o their #1 center on their way to 86pts last year and looked to be a young team 'on the come'. The team signed their 4MX5 GT and their back-up is healthy,Norris has played all but 4gms,Sanderson and many other young players have another year of experience and they added Tarasenko and Kubalik this year. The results are as follows,a fired GM,a fired HC and the 3rd worst record in the league........TWO more wins than the Hawks at this point! They haven't had Pinto but Grieg has played well for a rook and we all know they can't miss a 'one trick pony' like D-Cat. Great summary of the surprises. |
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Post by shooter61 on Jan 13, 2024 14:59:32 GMT -6
On the Hawks has to be pickles, can't think of another Big Dman, to come in to such a terrible team, and like GT said, lead his team in +/-
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 13, 2024 18:38:36 GMT -6
the oilers are a bit of a surprise this year.
start the season 13-15-1 but since november 23rd they lead the league with a 17-3-0 record.
in fact, the top 3 teams in that time frame are:
oil 17-3-0 .850
jets 17-4-2 .783
canucks 16-5-2 .739
1993 since a canadian team hoisted the cup. will this be the year? i still have my doubts.
too bad all 3 teams occupy the same conference.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 13, 2024 20:49:56 GMT -6
On the Hawks has to be pickles, can't think of another Big Dman, to come in to such a terrible team, and like GT said, lead his team in +/- he's definitely the most positive surprise. honorable mention to mrazek, blackwell, dickinson, foligno and korchinski. on the negative side, reichel and soderblom stand out. i'm a long ways from giving up on them, i was just expecting more. |
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Post by BigT on Jan 15, 2024 8:29:05 GMT -6
the oilers are a bit of a surprise this year. start the season 13-15-1 but since november 23rd they lead the league with a 17-3-0 record. in fact, the top 3 teams in that time frame are: oil 17-3-0 .850 jets 17-4-2 .783 canucks 16-5-2 .739 1993 since a canadian team hoisted the cup. will this be the year? i still have my doubts. too bad all 3 teams occupy the same conference. I know this may not be popular. But I’d still like to see the BEST 16 teams make it. Regardless is conference or divisional play. I still believe in divisional play due to travel concerns. It always pisses me off when a team with 103 points misses in a tough conference and a team with 89 n the other makes it. The Stanley Cup playoffs should be for the best teams. Anyways, I’m shocked at how bad Ottawa is. Like Buffalo, they’re just not committed enough o team defense yet. The Sens forwards are not very good defensively. I feel that the Sens will need a shakeup there at some point. They gotta get in some guys that also need a change of scenery. Vancouver, I’m a bit surprised at how well they’re doing. But I’m not shocked. They’ve had a lot of talent for some time. I don’t believe coaching was the issue there, I believe it was just maturity. Took a while unfortunately. Winnipeg I have to totally tip my cap to Chevy. He just keeps making that team work. He may very well be the best GM in hockey. He keeps draft in the middle of the pack and keeps plucking good players out. Perfetti looks like he’s developing great. He’s also got Colby Barlow, Rutger McGroarty, Chaz Lucius, Brad Lambert. I mean, the guy keeps drafting at an unbelievable clip. Then his trades have been impressive. To say he hasn’t been forced into some horrendous decisions is crazy. He had to trade PLD. I think he ripped off LA. Vilardi is more than likely better than PLD. Plus they get a sniper in Iafollo? Geez. Then he was forced to trade Trouba. Initially it looked awful. But Pionk was been a top 4. The 1st rounder Heinola has t stuck yet. But he looks like a very offensively gifted dman who’s developing nicely. They were losing Trouba free agent anyways. Forced to trade Copp and got a good return. They lose a great coach in Maurice. Replace him with Bowness, and the team is unreal. The Oilers unfortunately, no matter how well they do. It’s a show me situation now. I’m don’t care about anything but a Cup there. It’s Cup or bust!!! |
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Post by steamer on Jan 15, 2024 9:28:47 GMT -6
the oilers are a bit of a surprise this year. start the season 13-15-1 but since november 23rd they lead the league with a 17-3-0 record. in fact, the top 3 teams in that time frame are: oil 17-3-0 .850 jets 17-4-2 .783 canucks 16-5-2 .739 1993 since a canadian team hoisted the cup. will this be the year? i still have my doubts. too bad all 3 teams occupy the same conference. I know this may not be popular. But I’d still like to see the BEST 16 teams make it. Regardless is conference or divisional play. I still believe in divisional play due to travel concerns. It always pisses me off when a team with 103 points misses in a tough conference and a team with 89 n the other makes it. The Stanley Cup playoffs should be for the best teams. Anyways, I’m shocked at how bad Ottawa is. Like Buffalo, they’re just not committed enough o team defense yet. The Sens forwards are not very good defensively. I feel that the Sens will need a shakeup there at some point. They gotta get in some guys that also need a change of scenery. Vancouver, I’m a bit surprised at how well they’re doing. But I’m not shocked. They’ve had a lot of talent for some time. I don’t believe coaching was the issue there, I believe it was just maturity. Took a while unfortunately. Winnipeg I have to totally tip my cap to Chevy. He just keeps making that team work. He may very well be the best GM in hockey. He keeps draft in the middle of the pack and keeps plucking good players out. Perfetti looks like he’s developing great. He’s also got Colby Barlow, Rutger McGroarty, Chaz Lucius, Brad Lambert. I mean, the guy keeps drafting at an unbelievable clip. Then his trades have been impressive. To say he hasn’t been forced into some horrendous decisions is crazy. He had to trade PLD. I think he ripped off LA. Vilardi is more than likely better than PLD. Plus they get a sniper in Iafollo? Geez. Then he was forced to trade Trouba. Initially it looked awful. But Pionk was been a top 4. The 1st rounder Heinola has t stuck yet. But he looks like a very offensively gifted dman who’s developing nicely. They were losing Trouba free agent anyways. Forced to trade Copp and got a good return. They lose a great coach in Maurice. Replace him with Bowness, and the team is unreal. The Oilers unfortunately, no matter how well they do. It’s a show me situation now. I’m don’t care about anything but a Cup there. It’s Cup or bust!!! What’s your take on Leafs? |
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Post by Nikos on Jan 15, 2024 11:54:21 GMT -6
I know this may not be popular. But I’d still like to see the BEST 16 teams make it. Regardless is conference or divisional play. I still believe in divisional play due to travel concerns. It always pisses me off when a team with 103 points misses in a tough conference and a team with 89 n the other makes it. The Stanley Cup playoffs should be for the best teams. Anyways, I’m shocked at how bad Ottawa is. Like Buffalo, they’re just not committed enough o team defense yet. The Sens forwards are not very good defensively. I feel that the Sens will need a shakeup there at some point. They gotta get in some guys that also need a change of scenery. Vancouver, I’m a bit surprised at how well they’re doing. But I’m not shocked. They’ve had a lot of talent for some time. I don’t believe coaching was the issue there, I believe it was just maturity. Took a while unfortunately. Winnipeg I have to totally tip my cap to Chevy. He just keeps making that team work. He may very well be the best GM in hockey. He keeps draft in the middle of the pack and keeps plucking good players out. Perfetti looks like he’s developing great. He’s also got Colby Barlow, Rutger McGroarty, Chaz Lucius, Brad Lambert. I mean, the guy keeps drafting at an unbelievable clip. Then his trades have been impressive. To say he hasn’t been forced into some horrendous decisions is crazy. He had to trade PLD. I think he ripped off LA. Vilardi is more than likely better than PLD. Plus they get a sniper in Iafollo? Geez. Then he was forced to trade Trouba. Initially it looked awful. But Pionk was been a top 4. The 1st rounder Heinola has t stuck yet. But he looks like a very offensively gifted dman who’s developing nicely. They were losing Trouba free agent anyways. Forced to trade Copp and got a good return. They lose a great coach in Maurice. Replace him with Bowness, and the team is unreal. The Oilers unfortunately, no matter how well they do. It’s a show me situation now. I’m don’t care about anything but a Cup there. It’s Cup or bust!!! What’s your take on Leafs? The Leafs need to learn how to win 2-1 and 3-2 games to do anything in playoffs. It is nice when Matthews, Marner and Nylander explode for 5 or 6 goals a game. Matthews 33 goals have come in something like 19 or 20 games, so in the other half of his games he has not scored. They blew 3 goal lead versus the Oilers on Saturday and last night had a 2-1 lead in third period versus Red Wings and lost 4-2. |
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Post by steamer on Jan 15, 2024 12:23:34 GMT -6
What’s your take on Leafs? The Leafs need to learn how to win 2-1 and 3-2 games to do anything in playoffs. It is nice when Matthews, Marner and Nylander explode for 5 or 6 goals a game. Matthews 33 goals have come in something like 19 or 20 games, so in the other half of his games he has not scored. They blew 3 goal lead versus the Oilers on Saturday and last night had a 2-1 lead in third period versus Red Wings and lost 4-2. They’re an enigma to me. The lineup suggests a top contender but the results disappoint. |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 15, 2024 13:28:10 GMT -6
What’s your take on Leafs? The Leafs need to learn how to win 2-1 and 3-2 games to do anything in playoffs. It is nice when Matthews, Marner and Nylander explode for 5 or 6 goals a game. Matthews 33 goals have come in something like 19 or 20 games, so in the other half of his games he has not scored. They blew 3 goal lead versus the Oilers on Saturday and last night had a 2-1 lead in third period versus Red Wings and lost 4-2. Leafs' 2nd goal came off a BAD line change,they were out-worked, and their best players were frustrated by good back-checking. I don't catch that many Leafs games but I've never been impressed by this group when adversity knocks on their door. Toronto can run-it-up on a weak opponent or take advantage of a team on an off night but they seem to 'settle' when out-worked. It seemed they thought the home crowd alone would carry them to an uninspired 2-1 victory after the 2nd last night and the disillusioned bastards started chanting Samsonov's name just about the time Copp and Detroit's 3rd line out-worked the F outta Toronto with less than 2 mins left......they settled! Toronto's problems that haunt them in the postseason still exist and have been extended with massive raises. Their four elite forwards put-up offensive numbers every regular season but I still see a group that just doesn't like to get their noses dirty. Matthews is 6'3" 215lbs and Nylander's 6'0 200lbs+.......these two large-framed veteran forwards have 12 penalty minutes between em at the half-way point. This is the sign of plyers who don't engage physically very often to say the least. 6'1" 211lb Tavares has 10PIMs and slightly smaller Marner has 14. |
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Post by Nikos on Jan 15, 2024 13:51:32 GMT -6
The Leafs need to learn how to win 2-1 and 3-2 games to do anything in playoffs. It is nice when Matthews, Marner and Nylander explode for 5 or 6 goals a game. Matthews 33 goals have come in something like 19 or 20 games, so in the other half of his games he has not scored. They blew 3 goal lead versus the Oilers on Saturday and last night had a 2-1 lead in third period versus Red Wings and lost 4-2. Leafs' 2nd goal came off a BAD line change,they were out-worked, and their best players were frustrated by good back-checking. I don't catch that many Leafs games but I've never been impressed by this group when adversity knocks on their door. Toronto can run-it-up on a weak opponent or take advantage of a team on an off night but they seem to 'settle' when out-worked. It seemed they thought the home crowd alone would carry them to an uninspired 2-1 victory after the 2nd last night and the disillusioned bastards started chanting Samsonov's name just about the time Copp and Detroit's 3rd line out-worked the F outta Toronto with less than 2 mins left......they settled! Toronto's problems that haunt them in the postseason still exist and have been extended with massive raises. Their four elite forwards put-up offensive numbers every regular season but I still see a group that just doesn't like to get their noses dirty. Matthews is 6'3" 215lbs and Nylander's 6'0 200lbs+.......these two large-framed veteran forwards have 12 penalty minutes between em at the half-way point. This is the sign of plyers who don't engage physically very often to say the least. 6'1" 211lb Tavares has 10PIMs and slightly smaller Marner has 14. + Detroit travels same day and had to push game start time up about 30 minutes to get equipment unloaded and started Reimer back up goalie. Your 1000% correct outworked is putting it mildly. |
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Post by BigT on Jan 15, 2024 18:27:15 GMT -6
Well Steamer. I think the leaves are just a top heavy team with their main guys in their prime. They’ll be good just because of that. But it’s not enough, and won’t be enough.
In my opinion, they’re ok with just having a few stars. I think the Cup is an afterthought. I don’t think the last or present GM wants to be the guy who makes the really tough choices. I think the leaves are due for a drop off soon. And I believe it’ll be next season. Their D will take a massive step back as they’ll lose a few guys. Notably TJ Brodie. He’s probably their best defensive dman. And I’m pretty sure he’s not going back. Plus Giordano will be all done. They have minimal money to replace them. Also not much for a goalie either.
So until Tavares comes off the books. I feel they’re just a team that’s gonna be hangin around. Maybe they lose Tavares 11 million and the cap goes up again? Then they can make a serious run. I don’t see it this year or next!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Jan 15, 2024 18:47:49 GMT -6
Well Steamer. I think the leaves are just a top heavy team with their main guys in their prime. They’ll be good just because of that. But it’s not enough, and won’t be enough. In my opinion, they’re ok with just having a few stars. I think the Cup is an afterthought. I don’t think the last or present GM wants to be the guy who makes the really tough choices. I think the leaves are due for a drop off soon. And I believe it’ll be next season. Their D will take a massive step back as they’ll lose a few guys. Notably TJ Brodie. He’s probably their best defensive dman. And I’m pretty sure he’s not going back. Plus Giordano will be all done. They have minimal money to replace them. Also not much for a goalie either. So until Tavares comes off the books. I feel they’re just a team that’s gonna be hangin around. Maybe they lose Tavares 11 million and the cap goes up again? Then they can make a serious run. I don’t see it this year or next!!! Hawks have 2 D-men we can send the Leafs, Jones and Murphy. |
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