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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:14:27 GMT -6
Craig smith and pat maroon signed also These would have been great signings three years ago.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 10:15:05 GMT -6
Craig smith and pat maroon signed also These would have been great signings three years ago. they are ok now but not exactly sure how to make it Lots of forwards signed
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:15:26 GMT -6
The San Jose Sharks will sign forward Tyler Toffoli to a four-year, $24 million deal, according to TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston. Would Toffoli been a better option than Teuvo? Good question. Im going with Toffoli 60/40
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Post by Granada on Jul 1, 2024 10:16:41 GMT -6
Man, I'm going to have that same feeling seeing Maroon in a Hawks jersey that I had with Odelien, Barnaby and Tootoo. At least Tootoo worked out, so maybe there's hope? I don't know, just seems like a swan-song signing.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:17:23 GMT -6
These would have been great signings three years ago. they are ok now but not exactly sure how to make it Lots of forwards signed Yea exactly. Would rather see the kids, or maybe at worse, the mgmt doesnt think any of the kids are ready?
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 10:21:08 GMT -6
they are ok now but not exactly sure how to make it Lots of forwards signed Yea exactly. Would rather see the kids, or maybe at worse, the mgmt doesnt think any of the kids are ready? Could be a trade upcoming. Maybe they want to see Nazar/Slaggert play in the Ahl to start
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:23:36 GMT -6
Yea exactly. Would rather see the kids, or maybe at worse, the mgmt doesnt think any of the kids are ready? Could be a trade upcoming. Maybe they want to see Nazar/Slaggert play in the Ahl to start Im talking about the kids that are already in Rockford. Any of them ready or not ready to take a full NHL role next season?
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 10:24:48 GMT -6
Could be a trade upcoming. Maybe they want to see Nazar/Slaggert play in the Ahl to start Im talking about the kids that are already in Rockford. Any of them ready or not ready to take a full NHL role next season? other then Colton Dach really a bunch of guys just starting their elcās
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 1, 2024 10:25:14 GMT -6
Craig smith and pat maroon signed also These guys are upgrades on the bottom 6 and only short term, I like them over Blackwell, Anderson, The Johnsons, etc. They bring size and experience.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:27:31 GMT -6
Im talking about the kids that are already in Rockford. Any of them ready or not ready to take a full NHL role next season? other then Colton Dach really a bunch of guys just starting their elcās Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 1, 2024 10:27:49 GMT -6
Im talking about the kids that are already in Rockford. Any of them ready or not ready to take a full NHL role next season? other then Colton Dach really a bunch of guys just starting their elcās Dach and Rolston might be the closest but yeah, a lot of guys are just turning pro.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 1, 2024 10:29:52 GMT -6
other then Colton Dach really a bunch of guys just starting their elcās Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought The prospect pool isn't just Rockford, there are the kids in junior and college as well as any overseas kids.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 10:32:36 GMT -6
other then Colton Dach really a bunch of guys just starting their elcās Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought no issue at all. Been an interesting day so far. Me personally all I was expecting was one top 6 forward, a backup goalie and a reunion with Lafferty Been a fun day and nothing really holding up kids that become ready earlier then expected
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:32:44 GMT -6
Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought The prospect pool isn't just Rockford, there are the kids in junior and college as well as any overseas kids. I know that, but they normally start in Rock before Chi after junior/college/overseas. Unless of course they are stars
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Post by Granada on Jul 1, 2024 10:33:35 GMT -6
I don't get Maroon. I mean if you're going for an enforcer, why not just get Matt Martin?
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Post by Nikos on Jul 1, 2024 10:37:25 GMT -6
Laurent brossoit 2yrs $3.3 million aav Great signing, Soderblom can play with Commesso in Rockford. Big goalie too, little surprised by the $3.3AAV but Hawks have the space. He played well behind the Jets team last year, will see a lot more shots this year.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 1, 2024 10:37:29 GMT -6
The prospect pool isn't just Rockford, there are the kids in junior and college as well as any overseas kids. I know that, but they normally start in Rock before Chi after junior/college/overseas. Unless of course they are stars And if they're too young to go to Rockford and the Hawks don't send them back to juniors or college. I.E. Kirby Dach comes to mind. Should have gone back to juniors and bulk up before coming here. Poor GM'ing back then. Wanted to be the smartest guy in the room.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 1, 2024 10:40:12 GMT -6
other then Colton Dach really a bunch of guys just starting their elcās Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought They do have a great prospect pool but they aren't far away. It's only been 2yrs since KD started replenishing the forward prospect pool, he let them develop in the CHL and college and now Nazar, Hayes, Savoie, and Ludwinski will be playing their first year as pros, MarcelĀ² played his first year pro last season and Misiak from last season will be in Rockford. After next season Moore and other forwards will be added. It's a process.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:40:56 GMT -6
Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought no issue at all. Been an interesting day so far. Me personally all I was expecting was one top 6 forward, a backup goalie and a reunion with Lafferty Been a fun day and nothing really holding up kids that become ready earlier then expected Lafferty is gone to Buf. Not sure why he didnt stick around. I read they were trying to re-sign him but wanted to test FA Im happy with Brossoit. I wanted a vet goalie just in case Mrazek falters. I dont mind if they dont get a RD. The last thing i want is a big 2C, even an aging temporary one With that said, i find it funny that this talk about getting the team better (than the last two seasons) just seems like lipservice. The mgmt want the team to get better, but not ātoo betterā. I feel like its going to be another tanking season. Which i am fine with, ive said it before, we wont see this team in the PO until at least the 2030s
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 10:42:18 GMT -6
Oh, i thought there are alot. Sorry i dont follow the Rock or the prospects, but i keep reading we have one of the best prospect pool. I guess theyre further away than i thought They do have a great prospect pool but they aren't far away. It's only been 2yrs since KD started replenishing the forward prospect pool, he let them develop in the CHL and college and now Nazar, Hayes, Savoie, and Ludwinski will be playing their first year as pros, MarcelĀ² played his first year pro last season and Misiak from last season will be in Rockford. After next season Moore and other forwards will be added. It's a process. Yes it is a process. Understood. I just thought there might be more in Rockford ready to jump to Chi next season
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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 1, 2024 10:46:13 GMT -6
Laurent brossoit 2yrs $3.3 million aav Great signing, Soderblom can play with Commesso in Rockford. I'd rather Soder be in Indy or Europe.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 1, 2024 10:47:17 GMT -6
The young GM stated he would improve the team this summer and he's making the effort to follow-up on the statement to be fair. They might not be the exact players I or anyone else wanted,but I have no problem with the amounts or terms on any of em so far.
If Bertuzzi stays healthy all year,and 80 regulation/7 PO games last year should be a good indication,he's a possible difference maker at forward. I wanted a bigger forward with skill AND snarl. Tyler Bertuzzi qualifies IMO.
TT's coming-off his best goal scoring year of his career,his FO's dropped to 47% last year but were outstanding the three years prior. His responsible two-way play has resulted in a nifty +107 in 670 reg season games where he sees tough matchups and +25 in 90 PO games where he saw even tougher matchups. A fellow 1st round pick who's similar in stature AND playing style to Bedard but with a ton of experience could be a big advantage for our young superstar.
I dunno if Martinez is still worth 4M but he was a big part of three different cups on two different teams and should have something to offer the young D-men.
I'd still like to see the team acquire one or two good,YOUNG forwards who could be signed to term but that would require parting with some draft capitol,and it looks like the young GM is 'clutching his pearls' as far as parting with any. As stop-gaps go,these are fine but they're still stop-gaps.
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Post by Nikos on Jul 1, 2024 10:48:00 GMT -6
Boy that deal with Vlassic is looking better each day, with all of the 30+ year dmen signing significant term and AAV.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 1, 2024 10:53:41 GMT -6
They do have a great prospect pool but they aren't far away. It's only been 2yrs since KD started replenishing the forward prospect pool, he let them develop in the CHL and college and now Nazar, Hayes, Savoie, and Ludwinski will be playing their first year as pros, MarcelĀ² played his first year pro last season and Misiak from last season will be in Rockford. After next season Moore and other forwards will be added. It's a process. Yes it is a process. Understood. I just thought there might be more in Rockford ready to jump to Chi next season Rockford only had Dach and Rolston as young forwards who turned pro last season, next season will get a big influx. So getting guys like Maroon and Smith will give them time to mature down there.
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Post by Granada on Jul 1, 2024 10:56:14 GMT -6
The young GM stated he would improve the team this summer and he's making the effort to follow-up on the statement to be fair. They might not be the exact players I or anyone else wanted,but I have no problem with the amounts or terms on any of em so far. If Bertuzzi stays healthy all year,and 80 regulation/7 PO games last year should be a good indication,he's a possible difference maker at forward. I wanted a bigger forward with skill AND snarl. Tyler Bertuzzi qualifies IMO. TT's coming-off his best goal scoring year of his career,his FO's dropped to 47% last year but were outstanding the three years prior. His responsible two-way play has resulted in a nifty +107 in 670 reg season games where he sees tough matchups and +25 in 90 PO games where he saw even tougher matchups. A fellow 1st round pick who's similar in stature AND playing style to Bedard but with a ton of experience could be a big advantage for our young superstar. I dunno if Martinez is still worth 4M but he was a big part of three different cups on two different teams and should have something to offer the young D-men. I'd still like to see the team acquire one or two good,YOUNG forwards who could be signed to term but that would require parting with some draft capitol,and it looks like the young GM is 'clutching his pearls' as far as parting with any. As stop-gaps go,these are fine but they're still stop-gaps. I agree on Bertuzzi. Probably my favorite signing; I'm excited to see what he could do, especially if Hall is healthy this year. Broissoit -- also good. I don't like the TT signing, period. Hope I'm wrong, but that to me is a bad move and very Bowman-esque. Martinez: no major problem with that one. Maroon and Smith: I wouldn't say I'm "mad," but I don't really get signing Maroon for an enforcer role over a guy like Matt Martin; and Smith, I mean no major problem there but why not get Cal Clutterbuck instead? I suppose Smith has more potential for offensive production, but Clutterbuck hits everything in sight and can kill penalties. I'll reserve my overall judgement for when Davidson is done, but overall, I'm not super impressed. To his defense though, like I've said before, it may be a matter of players/targets not wanting to come here, so he's going with his Plan B options.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 1, 2024 11:02:57 GMT -6
I like the Bertuzzi and Teuvo signings, but I would rather not have signed Maroon and Smith, or at least not both of them. It makes for a very crowded forward group and I'd like to have room for Nazar and maybe another young guy in the lineup.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 1, 2024 11:06:37 GMT -6
I always thought Chicago's proximity to Maroon's hometown would be a fit and the team needs his type of presence,I would have pursued Duhaime first for that role and I still would after Maroon's signing.
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Post by Nikos on Jul 1, 2024 11:07:35 GMT -6
The young GM stated he would improve the team this summer and he's making the effort to follow-up on the statement to be fair. They might not be the exact players I or anyone else wanted,but I have no problem with the amounts or terms on any of em so far. If Bertuzzi stays healthy all year,and 80 regulation/7 PO games last year should be a good indication,he's a possible difference maker at forward. I wanted a bigger forward with skill AND snarl. Tyler Bertuzzi qualifies IMO. TT's coming-off his best goal scoring year of his career,his FO's dropped to 47% last year but were outstanding the three years prior. His responsible two-way play has resulted in a nifty +107 in 670 reg season games where he sees tough matchups and +25 in 90 PO games where he saw even tougher matchups. A fellow 1st round pick who's similar in stature AND playing style to Bedard but with a ton of experience could be a big advantage for our young superstar. I dunno if Martinez is still worth 4M but he was a big part of three different cups on two different teams and should have something to offer the young D-men. I'd still like to see the team acquire one or two good,YOUNG forwards who could be signed to term but that would require parting with some draft capitol,and it looks like the young GM is 'clutching his pearls' as far as parting with any. As stop-gaps go,these are fine but they're still stop-gaps. I agree on Bertuzzi. Probably my favorite signing; I'm excited to see what he could do, especially if Hall is healthy this year. Broissoit -- also good. I don't like the TT signing, period. Hope I'm wrong, but that to me is a bad move and very Bowman-esque. Martinez: no major problem with that one. Maroon and Smith: I wouldn't say I'm "mad," but I don't really get signing Maroon for an enforcer role over a guy like Matt Martin; and Smith, I mean no major problem there but why not get Cal Clutterbuck instead? I suppose Smith has more potential for offensive production, but Clutterbuck hits everything in sight and can kill penalties. I'll reserve my overall judgement for when Davidson is done, but overall, I'm not super impressed. To his defense though, like I've said before, it may be a matter of players/targets not wanting to come here, so he's going with his Plan B options. Agree the Bertuzzi signing has the potential to be the best one IMO, both short and long term. Martinez, vet (could/should help KK and probably be spotted/rested) will be flipped at the TDL for a mid-round pick. Smith, you right is a better offensive threat. I am somewhat mixed in Teuvo, hopefully he will earn his contract.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 11:08:15 GMT -6
Yes it is a process. Understood. I just thought there might be more in Rockford ready to jump to Chi next season Rockford only had Dach and Rolston as young forwards who turned pro last season, next season will get a big influx. So getting guys like Maroon and Smith will give them time to mature down there. I take it Dach and Rolston are not ready for the full time.
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Post by Nikos on Jul 1, 2024 11:11:32 GMT -6
Craig smith and pat maroon signed also Does someone have the term and AAV for these guys.
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