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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 16:48:48 GMT -6
At one point during my STH days the Hawks did have tribes perform between periods. I don't recall what happened, but there was a rift between the Hawks and tribes that ended that partnership. Anyone remember this, and what happened?
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Post by BigT on Oct 16, 2020 6:51:24 GMT -6
Well this poor bastard will never be able to remove his shirt in public anymore. There’s no few out there with permanent homages on their skin. Glad I never took that route. View AttachmentHe should be hired immeeeeeeeeeeeediately to be a shirtless ambassador. That’s some serious dedication right thur!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 2, 2020 23:04:01 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2020 23:35:19 GMT -6
i reckon it's a very good start. hopefully, more "common ground" can be found and agreements/handshakes will be a result. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 3, 2020 0:06:30 GMT -6
We acknowledge that the land we built a massive family fortune on rightfully belongs to you poor bastards,well........then give it back!LOL!
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 3, 2020 1:24:53 GMT -6
We acknowledge that the land we built a massive family fortune on rightfully belongs to you poor bastards,well........then give it back!LOL! countless hundreds of thousands over many generations have built fortunes on native lands around chicago i'd imagine. idk...at least the organization is trying to make amends although i'd say it will never be enough but at least it's something. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 3, 2020 8:27:01 GMT -6
We acknowledge that the land we built a massive family fortune on rightfully belongs to you poor bastards,well........then give it back!LOL! countless hundreds of thousands over many generations have built fortunes on native lands around chicago i'd imagine. idk...at least the organization is trying to make amends although i'd say it will never be enough but at least it's something. I'll back off on this issue but I struggle to see how just acknowledging this tragic episode helps the plight of Native Americans. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 24, 2020 17:45:20 GMT -6
 Their new logo.....The Blue Footed Boobie |
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Post by Tater on Nov 25, 2020 3:06:41 GMT -6
Their new logo.....The Blue Footed Boobie Or they can just shorten it to "The Boobs". |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 25, 2020 3:56:20 GMT -6
Their new logo.....The Blue Footed Boobie Or they can just shorten it to "The Boobs". so much merchandising opportunity there.... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 17, 2020 20:01:20 GMT -6
no change in the team's policy with the new upper management in place.
no big surprise i guess.
“We respect the decision the Cleveland Indians made to go down that path, but we continue to deepen our commitment to upholding our namesake and our brand,” Wirtz said. “The work we’ve been doing over the last several months, and expanding and deepening conversations and partnerships within the Native community, we continue to feel really positive about the types of work we can do, the way in which we can be better stewards of the namesake and the history, and to use our platforms to be educators not only for our fans but for our internal teams and making sure that we provide that reverence and respect that we talk about.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 15:23:55 GMT -6
no change in the team's policy with the new upper management in place. no big surprise i guess. “We respect the decision the Cleveland Indians made to go down that path, but we continue to deepen our commitment to upholding our namesake and our brand,” Wirtz said. “The work we’ve been doing over the last several months, and expanding and deepening conversations and partnerships within the Native community, we continue to feel really positive about the types of work we can do, the way in which we can be better stewards of the namesake and the history, and to use our platforms to be educators not only for our fans but for our internal teams and making sure that we provide that reverence and respect that we talk about.”With the number of teams diminishing after the Washington football team and Cleveland baseball team announced to drop their names, I think pressure will mount on remaining teams until they agree to drop the names as well. Currently I've heard the Kansas City Chiefs, Atlanta Braves, and Hawks are the 3 remaining pro sports teams that have names that could be considered offensive. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 24, 2021 0:18:32 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 24, 2021 0:26:45 GMT -6
i'm sure you know the portland winterhawks of the WHL changed their logo to this. anyways...i like the winterhawk's choice. i think the blackhawks are last to change. they seem pretty dug in about it. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 24, 2021 1:03:05 GMT -6
i'm sure you know the portland winterhawks of the WHL changed their logo to this. anyways...i like the winterhawk's choice. i think the blackhawks are last to change. they seem pretty dug in about it. likely so, especially being an NHL team. the Braves and Chiefs are probably next. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 24, 2021 6:45:25 GMT -6
If the Black Hawks change their logo I'm done with them and hockey all together.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 24, 2021 7:05:10 GMT -6
If the Black Hawks change their logo I'm done with them and hockey all together. Why? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 24, 2021 7:24:58 GMT -6
If the Black Hawks change their logo I'm done with them and hockey all together. Why? Because then they are not the Black Hawks any longer. |
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Jul 24, 2021 7:27:57 GMT -6
i'm sure you know the portland winterhawks of the WHL changed their logo to this. anyways...i like the winterhawk's choice. i think the blackhawks are last to change. they seem pretty dug in about it. Winterhawks new logo is badass...love it. |
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Jul 24, 2021 7:31:09 GMT -6
Because then they are not the Black Hawks any longer. Not going to bag on you, although I don't understand the choice to walk away if the Hawks changed to actual black Hawks like some of the concepts I've seen floated. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 24, 2021 7:32:15 GMT -6
Because then they are not the Black Hawks any longer. but they will be the same team, same players, same history. the former logo and name will just be part of that history. does it really matter what they are called? they are still Chicago's hockey team, that's honestly all I care about. that being said, I think it'll be awhile before any change is made. the brass seem to be pretty dug in on this issue. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 24, 2021 7:38:18 GMT -6
Because then they are not the Black Hawks any longer. In your opinion and that's okay....we all got one. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 24, 2021 8:31:18 GMT -6
i wonder....if the blackhawks just changed their logo but kept the name would that be enough?
i would think so but like i've said before....i'm not sure i've really got my finger on the pulse of this situation..
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Post by vadarx on Jul 24, 2021 8:35:04 GMT -6
i wonder....if the blackhawks just changed their logo but kept the name would that be enough? i would think so but like i've said before....i'm not sure i've really got my finger on the pulse of this situation.. I kinda doubt it |
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Post by tincup on Jul 24, 2021 8:49:32 GMT -6
i wonder....if the blackhawks just changed their logo but kept the name would that be enough? i would think so but like i've said before....i'm not sure i've really got my finger on the pulse of this situation.. I can’t see anything offensive about the name. Once the imagery is removed and you follow the trail from where that name comes from, it becomes a team basically named after one man. Not a bad homage. But will every piece of clothing or memorabilia I own now become as controversial as flying a confederate flag? Wear my 2010 Stanley Cup ball cap and I’ll be open for attack and censored? You know I live near Edmonton, go to a game here and the natives who attend and are Hawk fans seem to have no issues with wearing the colours. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 24, 2021 9:22:32 GMT -6
It was an interesting read and more relevant today than ever! The Chief was considered a 'demon in human shape' by those who slaughtered his people and then paraded him through eastern cities in a fucking cage after his capture.......now that's reverence! I haven't worn a single piece of Black Hawk attire after reading the actual,factual accounts of the massacre you posted about a year ago but I have NO problem if someone else does.....this is a personal perspective. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Jul 24, 2021 10:19:37 GMT -6
It was an interesting read and more relevant today than ever! The Chief was considered a 'demon in human shape' by those who slaughtered his people and then paraded him through eastern cities in a fucking cage after his capture.......now that's reverence! I haven't worn a single piece of Black Hawk attire after reading the actual,factual accounts of the massacre you posted about a year ago but I have NO problem if someone else does.....this is a personal perspective. I’ll be damned - in my 50+ years, I had never really studied this nation’s 7th President, Andrew Jackson. Visited his Hermitage (https://thehermitage.com/) estate 2 days ago, knew he was a slaveholder but did not know so much about his Native American policies. He came into office in 1829, and the 1831-1832 reporting from this story fits into one helluva more recognizable context now. The man, Jackson, and his times… |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 24, 2021 10:43:48 GMT -6
It was an interesting read and more relevant today than ever! The Chief was considered a 'demon in human shape' by those who slaughtered his people and then paraded him through eastern cities in a fucking cage after his capture.......now that's reverence! I haven't worn a single piece of Black Hawk attire after reading the actual,factual accounts of the massacre you posted about a year ago but I have NO problem if someone else does.....this is a personal perspective. I’ll be damned - in my 50+ years, I had never really studied this nation’s 7th President, Andrew Jackson. Visited his Hermitage (https://thehermitage.com/) estate 2 days ago, knew he was a slaveholder but did not know so much about his Native American policies. He came into office in 1829, and the 1831-1832 reporting from this story fits into one helluva more recognizable context now. The man, Jackson, and his times… When the 'Indian killer' (a moniker he was proud of) signed the 'Indian removal Act',the SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional because it dispossessed lawful Native land ownership,Jackson told the SCOTUS "I have the army and you don't"........the trail or tears and overwhelming suffering followed. |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 24, 2021 12:43:56 GMT -6
History The National Hockey League (NHL)'s Chicago Blackhawks was named in honor of the U.S. 86th Infantry Division, which was nicknamed the "Blackhawk Division" after Black Hawk, a Native American chief; the team's founder, Frederic McLaughlin, having served in that division.
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Post by BigT on Jul 24, 2021 13:52:26 GMT -6
History The National Hockey League (NHL)'s Chicago Blackhawks was named in honor of the U.S. 86th Infantry Division, which was nicknamed the "Blackhawk Division" after Black Hawk, a Native American chief; the team's founder, Frederic McLaughlin, having served in that division. I don’t like chiming in on these things very often due to people’s feelings are too involved. But that is correct and the Chicago BlackHawks are in no way shape or form set up to be racist. It’s an honour to have something named after you. Here in Canada, a lot of Residential Schools have had their terrible pasts brought out. A lot of indigenous children died from Tuberculosis. Like thousands. There are even cases of a lot of kids dying from neglect. It’s awful. Seeing children suffer is wrong. We all know this. This is Canada’s history. Like it or not. But making teams get rid of names isn’t going to change a thing. If the name is clearly racist against anyone, I think it should be abolished. I think a name and logo like the Blackhawks is a good thing. It helps celebrate the accomplishments of great people. If Chief BlackHawks family or descendants wanted it abolished, then they should grant the family their wishes. We can’t change history, but we sure as hell better learn from it. I for one hope the Hawks keep their name and logo. It’s not racist. And no one is saying the atrocities against the said people are justified, or in any way acceptable. We just want to celebrate a great leaders life by using his portrait and name!!! |
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