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Post by tincup on May 23, 2024 23:37:04 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 24, 2024 0:49:06 GMT -6
That was a good interview, I like how they talked about a lot of prospects and when asked about guys that don't get talked about much, and who he's high on, Mark mentioned Ludwinski and Kantserov. Mark said he did a video chat with Kantserov after he won the championship and he said he's so competitive that he doesn't want a translator and gets frustrated when he has to use one. Of course not all will make it but there's a lot to get excited about, Savoie is one I'm really looking forward to seeing progress. His broken femur might've been great for his development because he got to stay in Chicago and rehab and learn from the pros. Sam will be a fan favorite like Shaw and he can play up and down the line and all three forward positions. He's only 5'10" but he's almost 200lbs and hits hard, I'm sure he'll be over 200lbs after this summer. And Charlie likes Rinzels package 😆 he'll turn pro after next season and ideally he'll play a season in Rockford but with his size, skating, and IQ, Luke might start him in Chicago. He'll be a top4 dman one day, maybe top2 depending on how he progresses.
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Post by vadarx on May 24, 2024 1:04:23 GMT -6
That was a good interview, I like how they talked about a lot of prospects and when asked about guys that don't get talked about much, and who he's high on, Mark mentioned Ludwinski and Kantserov. Mark said he did a video chat with Kantserov after he won the championship and he said he's so competitive that he doesn't want a translator and gets frustrated when he has to use one. Of course not all will make it but there's a lot to get excited about, Savoie is one I'm really looking forward to seeing progress. His broken femur might've been great for his development because he got to stay in Chicago and rehab and learn from the pros. Sam will be a fan favorite like Shaw and he can play up and down the line and all three forward positions. He's only 5'10" but he's almost 200lbs and hits hard, I'm sure he'll be over 200lbs after this summer. And Charlie likes Rinzels package 😆 he'll turn pro after next season and ideally he'll play a season in Rockford but with his size, skating, and IQ, Luke might start him in Chicago. He'll be a top4 dman one day, maybe top2 depending on how he progresses. the Charlie bit clinches the likelihood of the 'hawks taking Demidov, imo. if he is selling a future top 2-4 rhd in Rinzel, then we're taking Demidov if he checks out.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 24, 2024 1:37:35 GMT -6
That was a good interview, I like how they talked about a lot of prospects and when asked about guys that don't get talked about much, and who he's high on, Mark mentioned Ludwinski and Kantserov. Mark said he did a video chat with Kantserov after he won the championship and he said he's so competitive that he doesn't want a translator and gets frustrated when he has to use one. Of course not all will make it but there's a lot to get excited about, Savoie is one I'm really looking forward to seeing progress. His broken femur might've been great for his development because he got to stay in Chicago and rehab and learn from the pros. Sam will be a fan favorite like Shaw and he can play up and down the line and all three forward positions. He's only 5'10" but he's almost 200lbs and hits hard, I'm sure he'll be over 200lbs after this summer. And Charlie likes Rinzels package 😆 he'll turn pro after next season and ideally he'll play a season in Rockford but with his size, skating, and IQ, Luke might start him in Chicago. He'll be a top4 dman one day, maybe top2 depending on how he progresses. the Charlie bit clinches the likelihood of the 'hawks taking Demidov, imo. if he is selling a future top 2-4 rhd in Rinzel, then we're taking Demidov if he checks out. I'm ok with that, the Hawks have prospects to fill almost every spot, except the first line, Demidov has first line potential. Or he runs the second line and #1 PP with Bedard. Most of the forwards this season were playing on lines they shouldn't be on, including the 4th cause they're AHL players. It was tough watching most fumbling passes, guys like Bedard and Demidov have great control which will help the D with outlet passes and controlling the play in the offensive zone.
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Post by hsbob on May 24, 2024 8:36:02 GMT -6
It's obvious that Bedard will be able to produce and drive offense,and maybe to a very impressive level with better linemates. It's also realistic to expect improvement in every part of his game with his commitment,but can we ever expect above average defensive play or an average FO% too?
That being said,do we have a large-framed center in the system who'll be able to cover opposing 1LC's and win over half his draws consistently? This player wouldn't have to produce more than 15/40 to be successful with Bedard's offensive ability and could be a 3LC 5 on 5 but he'd have to PK well.
If not,get one! These players are important pieces to successful teams and I still believe Ott might deal Pinto and Fla will have to deal either Lundell or Bennett this offseason.
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Post by mvr on May 24, 2024 10:27:43 GMT -6
There is not one, and the team needs one.
I am thinking a Joel Otto, Michael Handzus type. Physical, strong on faceoffs, defensive shutdown type. 6'4" 210 plus pounds. Preferably right shot.
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Post by ebonyraptor on May 24, 2024 12:29:52 GMT -6
That was a good interview, I like how they talked about a lot of prospects and when asked about guys that don't get talked about much, and who he's high on, Mark mentioned Ludwinski and Kantserov. Mark said he did a video chat with Kantserov after he won the championship and he said he's so competitive that he doesn't want a translator and gets frustrated when he has to use one. Of course not all will make it but there's a lot to get excited about, Savoie is one I'm really looking forward to seeing progress. His broken femur might've been great for his development because he got to stay in Chicago and rehab and learn from the pros. Sam will be a fan favorite like Shaw and he can play up and down the line and all three forward positions. He's only 5'10" but he's almost 200lbs and hits hard, I'm sure he'll be over 200lbs after this summer. And Charlie likes Rinzels package 😆 he'll turn pro after next season and ideally he'll play a season in Rockford but with his size, skating, and IQ, Luke might start him in Chicago. He'll be a top4 dman one day, maybe top2 depending on how he progresses. Yeah, good article. I wouldn't say there was anything "new" but still nice to hear Eaton talking about the prospects. I found it a little strange that Charlie asked about the prospects overseas - Lardis, Hayes and Savoie - apparently he thinks Canada is overseas.
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Post by galaxytrash on May 24, 2024 17:51:56 GMT -6
That was a good interview, I like how they talked about a lot of prospects and when asked about guys that don't get talked about much, and who he's high on, Mark mentioned Ludwinski and Kantserov. Mark said he did a video chat with Kantserov after he won the championship and he said he's so competitive that he doesn't want a translator and gets frustrated when he has to use one. Of course not all will make it but there's a lot to get excited about, Savoie is one I'm really looking forward to seeing progress. His broken femur might've been great for his development because he got to stay in Chicago and rehab and learn from the pros. Sam will be a fan favorite like Shaw and he can play up and down the line and all three forward positions. He's only 5'10" but he's almost 200lbs and hits hard, I'm sure he'll be over 200lbs after this summer. And Charlie likes Rinzels package 😆 he'll turn pro after next season and ideally he'll play a season in Rockford but with his size, skating, and IQ, Luke might start him in Chicago. He'll be a top4 dman one day, maybe top2 depending on how he progresses. Yeah, good article. I wouldn't say there was anything "new" but still nice to hear Eaton talking about the prospects. I found it a little strange that Charlie asked about the prospects overseas - Lardis, Hayes and Savoie - apparently he thinks Canada is overseas. lake michigan is a pretty big lake.
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Post by ebonyraptor on May 24, 2024 18:02:31 GMT -6
Yeah, good article. I wouldn't say there was anything "new" but still nice to hear Eaton talking about the prospects. I found it a little strange that Charlie asked about the prospects overseas - Lardis, Hayes and Savoie - apparently he thinks Canada is overseas. lake michigan is a pretty big lake. Good point ... and if you consider all 5 Great Lakes - it's pretty close to an inland sea ... so I guess he knew what he was talking about.
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Post by hsbob on May 24, 2024 18:51:51 GMT -6
Yeah, good article. I wouldn't say there was anything "new" but still nice to hear Eaton talking about the prospects. I found it a little strange that Charlie asked about the prospects overseas - Lardis, Hayes and Savoie - apparently he thinks Canada is overseas. lake michigan is a pretty big lake. Deep too!
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on May 24, 2024 20:11:29 GMT -6
lake michigan is a pretty big lake. Deep too! It is (although it doesn't border Canada)! -- but what's the deepest lake in the US?
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Post by vadarx on May 24, 2024 20:44:01 GMT -6
It is (although it doesn't border Canada)! -- but what's the deepest lake in the US? crater lake.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on May 24, 2024 21:37:24 GMT -6
It is (although it doesn't border Canada)! -- but what's the deepest lake in the US? crater lake. We have a winner! I believe it's either second or third deepest in the world.
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Post by vadarx on May 24, 2024 22:31:05 GMT -6
We have a winner! I believe it's either second or third deepest in the world. and I didn't have to look it up! I actually only know because I've used that question on a lot of Michigan folks, as most just assume it is Lake Superior...
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Post by Tater on May 25, 2024 2:08:50 GMT -6
and I didn't have to look it up! I actually only know because I've used that question on a lot of Michigan folks, as most just assume it is Lake Superior...That was my first guess.
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Post by galaxytrash on May 25, 2024 2:45:47 GMT -6
Crater lake is the 10th deepest in the world as far as maximum depth but 5th as far as average depth. Too keep it hockey related, the deepest point of crater lake is 288.3 zdeno charas deep. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lakes_by_depth
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Post by vadarx on May 25, 2024 3:52:56 GMT -6
Crater lake is the 10th deepest in the world as far as maximum depth but 5th as far as average depth. Too keep it hockey related, the deepest point of crater lake is 288.3 zdeno charas deep. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lakes_by_depthin other words, it's cold as fuc..... I remember when the special lady and I went to Tahoe for the first time. we went up for a swim in June, thinking "this place is famous, must be the water is nice ". I should've known better, as many times as I've been in Gichigami... when we got in it again, it was August... I would imagine Crater is about the same.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on May 25, 2024 14:04:38 GMT -6
Crater lake is the 10th deepest in the world as far as maximum depth but 5th as far as average depth. Too keep it hockey related, the deepest point of crater lake is 288.3 zdeno charas deep. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lakes_by_depth in other words, it's cold as fuc.....I remember when the special lady and I went to Tahoe for the first time. we went up for a swim in June, thinking "this place is famous, must be the water is nice ". I should've known better, as many times as I've been in Gichigami... when we got in it again, it was August... I would imagine Crater is about the same. It is. On a hot summer day, it's quite pleasant along the shore, but as soon as you literally step another foot, you hit another temperature gradient -- which is as cold as...Taylor Raddysh's shooting last season.
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Post by LordKOTL on May 28, 2024 12:27:13 GMT -6
^^^^Can confirm. Usually there's still snow up there in June, even though it's been awhile since I've been down to the shore. There's not much of a chance for the water to warm up. flic.kr/p/2p2Zq4D
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Post by galaxytrash on May 28, 2024 13:23:54 GMT -6
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 1, 2024 14:24:02 GMT -6
Speaking of our kid (will he become "Marty"/"Mish,"/"Mishy"? I left out "Mizzy" and "Missy" intentionally), a nice comparison by the Hawk brass that I had not read previously: 4. On signing Martin Misiak and Zach Sanford (sorry is Paywall hijacks: www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/01/chicago-blackhawks-kyle-davidson/):Martin Misiak might not be the household name that Bedard is, but he’s a fairly essential piece of the Hawks’ long-term plan. After the 2023 draft, Hawks director of amateur scouting Mike Doneghey called Misiak “almost like a Brandon Saad-type player, that big-bodied wall player.”
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 1, 2024 14:40:34 GMT -6
Think Misiak is a future bottom 6 staple
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 1, 2024 14:56:52 GMT -6
Think Misiak is a future bottom 6 staple Could be the perfect 3C
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 1, 2024 15:05:30 GMT -6
Think Misiak is a future bottom 6 staple Could be the perfect 3C Agreed
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jun 1, 2024 15:08:40 GMT -6
Speaking of our kid (will he become "Marty"/"Mish,"/"Mishy"? I left out "Mizzy" and "Missy" intentionally), a nice comparison by the Hawk brass that I had not read previously: 4. On signing Martin Misiak and Zach Sanford (sorry is Paywall hijacks: www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/01/chicago-blackhawks-kyle-davidson/):Martin Misiak might not be the household name that Bedard is, but he’s a fairly essential piece of the Hawks’ long-term plan. After the 2023 draft, Hawks director of amateur scouting Mike Doneghey called Misiak “almost like a Brandon Saad-type player, that big-bodied wall player.” I think Saad is a good projection comp for Misiak - about the same size, both skate well, both can score but neither would be known for their scoring ability. Misiak plays center and plays good defensively so he has the edge on Saad there.
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 1, 2024 16:49:15 GMT -6
Speaking of our kid (will he become "Marty"/"Mish,"/"Mishy"? I left out "Mizzy" and "Missy" intentionally), a nice comparison by the Hawk brass that I had not read previously: 4. On signing Martin Misiak and Zach Sanford (sorry is Paywall hijacks: www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/01/chicago-blackhawks-kyle-davidson/):Martin Misiak might not be the household name that Bedard is, but he’s a fairly essential piece of the Hawks’ long-term plan. After the 2023 draft, Hawks director of amateur scouting Mike Doneghey called Misiak “almost like a Brandon Saad-type player, that big-bodied wall player.” Misiak plays center and plays good defensively so he has the edge on Saad there. Another good reason to feel that last year's draft and this year's draft are the last on the core rebuild, the year after's draft to replenish what goes sideways from 2021's through 2023's draft classes. The remainder, and hoping it's KD as the GM, the right trades/acquisitions are made to help establish and support these draft classes' ascent up the Eastern Conference Rankings by 2025-2026, definitely by 2026-2027.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jun 2, 2024 0:29:11 GMT -6
Misiak plays center and plays good defensively so he has the edge on Saad there. Another good reason to feel that last year's draft and this year's draft are the last on the core rebuild, the year after's draft to replenish what goes sideways from 2021's through 2023's draft classes. The remainder, and hoping it's KD as the GM, the right trades/acquisitions are made to help establish and support these draft classes' ascent up the Eastern Conference Rankings by 2025-2026, definitely by 2026-2027. My assessment of Misiak has been lowered a bit since early in the OHL season when Misiak was often the best player for Erie, both in scoring and playing a puck hunting game that highlighted his skating and his ability to anticipate where the play was going and at worst disrupt the opponents play and at best retrieve the puck and turn a loose puck into offense. As the season wore on into Dec/Jan/Feb his play dipped and while he wasn't very often bad - he wasn't as consistently good as he was in the first 2-3 months. Hopefully he plays with Rockford next season.
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Post by Tater on Jun 2, 2024 2:23:32 GMT -6
Another good reason to feel that last year's draft and this year's draft are the last on the core rebuild, the year after's draft to replenish what goes sideways from 2021's through 2023's draft classes. The remainder, and hoping it's KD as the GM, the right trades/acquisitions are made to help establish and support these draft classes' ascent up the Eastern Conference Rankings by 2025-2026, definitely by 2026-2027. Did I miss something? A re-alignment?
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 2, 2024 4:12:58 GMT -6
Another good reason to feel that last year's draft and this year's draft are the last on the core rebuild, the year after's draft to replenish what goes sideways from 2021's through 2023's draft classes. The remainder, and hoping it's KD as the GM, the right trades/acquisitions are made to help establish and support these draft classes' ascent up the Eastern Conference Rankings by 2025-2026, definitely by 2026-2027. Did I miss something? A re-alignment? Er, Western Conference. Wow - brain farted that.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 2, 2024 6:42:42 GMT -6
Another good reason to feel that last year's draft and this year's draft are the last on the core rebuild, the year after's draft to replenish what goes sideways from 2021's through 2023's draft classes. The remainder, and hoping it's KD as the GM, the right trades/acquisitions are made to help establish and support these draft classes' ascent up the Eastern Conference Rankings by 2025-2026, definitely by 2026-2027. My assessment of Misiak has been lowered a bit since early in the OHL season when Misiak was often the best player for Erie, both in scoring and playing a puck hunting game that highlighted his skating and his ability to anticipate where the play was going and at worst disrupt the opponents play and at best retrieve the puck and turn a loose puck into offense. As the season wore on into Dec/Jan/Feb his play dipped and while he wasn't very often bad - he wasn't as consistently good as he was in the first 2-3 months. Hopefully he plays with Rockford next season. At last years prospects tournament I remember seeing a bigger guy flying down the ice and working his ass off, he also showed poise with the puck and made smart plays. So I looked up the number and sure enough it was Misiak. It looked like he hit the wall in Dec but looked refreshed at the World Juniors, until the wheels fell off for the Slovaks, plus he couldn't buy a goal despite some great chances. His body language changed and it carried over back to Erie. But he started to pick it back up and finished strong and at least got to 20 goals. Unless he really impresses at camp next season, he'll start in Rockford.
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