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Post by gigecj on Sept 20, 2024 13:03:22 GMT -6
T said "I like the looks of this rebuild much better than say the wings. Or Buffalo." What a great name it would be i.e. the Buffalo Wings and certainly more apropo than that other that plays across the water from you.  |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Sept 20, 2024 14:07:18 GMT -6
He had surgery after the season (shoulder I think). I think the timetable to return in next month. Interestingly, Magnito is also missing Danila Yurov the Wild 1st rounder from 2022, due to surgery, so they're missing 2 key top-6 players from their championship lineup. Thanks er and Hockey is great. When you mention Yurov also being out, both him and Kansterov being out has really stifled Manitogorsk's offense; in their five losses they were shutout twice and only scored two goals in each of the other three games. Their lone win was against Ivan Demidov's team. Demidov had a p. assist on a pp goal. Now that I think of it - I went back and checked - Magnitka is also missing Denis Zernov who played top-6 center - so they're missing 3 of their top-6 guys from their championship roster. Don't know whet happened to Zernov - injury or trade or ?? |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 21, 2024 9:47:34 GMT -6
This season is the biggest influx of picks by KD to turn pro, Nazar, Ludwinski, Hayes, and Savoie. Bedard, Korchinski, and Marcel² last season. Next year will probably be bigger with Moore, Rinzel, Greene, Lardis, and possibly Misiak, Vanacker, Spellacy, and maybe one or two more. Then there's guys drafted before KD, that him and Maciver were a part of drafting, who could turn pro next season. Harding, Stjernborg, Basse, and Kelley. Not sure about Safonov. That's a lot of picks that'll cover every position in Chicago and Rockford. KD will have some tough choices on who to keep and who to trade or walk away from. I don't think Chicago will be a bottom 3 team for a long time. Just to be clear, I did say bottom 3rd of the league and not bottom 3. I still believe in 3 years time if the Hawks are still drafting top 10. Change is a must. Can’t let Bedard go that long without something to play for. Can’t be more meaningless games. Personally, I don’t believe we’ll be having that conversation. The D should be very strong in a couple years, if not this year. The forwards I believe he’ll get a bunch outside the org in trades. Every team since the dawn of time has had maybe 10 drafted players on their team. Most have less. So there’s still 13 guys from outside the org that’ll be on this team at some point. And not the 1year deal guys here now. I like the looks of this rebuild much better than say the wings. Or Buffalo. They let their team “die on vine” and didn’t have much of a plan except just get high picks. Changing a GM once a rebuild is started is crazy. Gotta give the guy 5 years at least. 2 years to tear down, 3-4 years of drafting, 2-3 years of development. Now a lot of those years overlap, it’s a 6-8 year process. We’re in year 3. So that’s why I say he has 3 more years to bare some fruit. I believe he will!!! How is a team with 91pts that missed the PO's on a tie-braker "dying on the vine"? Stevie Y's been the GM for five years,his first two 1st round picks(Rymond and Seider) are total successes so far and his third 1st rounder will make the team this year(21yro 6'6" D-man Edvinsson),their systen is ranked 4th best and they possess all of their picks the next three years. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 21, 2024 11:02:24 GMT -6
Just to be clear, I did say bottom 3rd of the league and not bottom 3. I still believe in 3 years time if the Hawks are still drafting top 10. Change is a must. Can’t let Bedard go that long without something to play for. Can’t be more meaningless games. Personally, I don’t believe we’ll be having that conversation. The D should be very strong in a couple years, if not this year. The forwards I believe he’ll get a bunch outside the org in trades. Every team since the dawn of time has had maybe 10 drafted players on their team. Most have less. So there’s still 13 guys from outside the org that’ll be on this team at some point. And not the 1year deal guys here now. I like the looks of this rebuild much better than say the wings. Or Buffalo. They let their team “die on vine” and didn’t have much of a plan except just get high picks. Changing a GM once a rebuild is started is crazy. Gotta give the guy 5 years at least. 2 years to tear down, 3-4 years of drafting, 2-3 years of development. Now a lot of those years overlap, it’s a 6-8 year process. We’re in year 3. So that’s why I say he has 3 more years to bare some fruit. I believe he will!!! How is a team with 91pts that missed the PO's on a tie-braker "dying on the vine"? Stevie Y's been the GM for five years,his first two 1st round picks(Rymond and Seider) are total successes so far and his third 1st rounder will make the team this year(21yro 6'6" D-man Edvinsson),their systen is ranked 4th best and they possess all of their picks the next three years. They’re not. They did. It was Hollands doing!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 22, 2024 9:11:01 GMT -6
How is a team with 91pts that missed the PO's on a tie-braker "dying on the vine"? Stevie Y's been the GM for five years,his first two 1st round picks(Rymond and Seider) are total successes so far and his third 1st rounder will make the team this year(21yro 6'6" D-man Edvinsson),their systen is ranked 4th best and they possess all of their picks the next three years. They’re not. They did. It was Hollands doing!!! The time comes for 'put-up or shut-up ' with any rebuild and five years for Stevie Y is probably that time. You mentioned Holland and that reminds me,all rebuilds don't start from the same place. You said you like the look of the Hawks' rebuild better than Det or Buff's(I believe) and that's understandable, The Hawks' rebuild has seen eight years' worth of 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks in it's first 3 years,the highly desirable trade assets to acquire most of those picks,the lottery luck to snag Bedard,only one problematic contract and cap-space to die for........all to an unprecedented extent. Detroit has had 2 extra 1st's the last five drafts but no lottery luck at all with only one top-five pick and that was Raymond @#4 OA. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 22, 2024 9:52:53 GMT -6
They’re not. They did. It was Hollands doing!!! The time comes for 'put-up or shut-up ' with any rebuild and five years for Stevie Y is probably that time. You mentioned Holland and that reminds me,all rebuilds don't start from the same place. You said you like the look of the Hawks' rebuild better than Det or Buff's(I believe) and that's understandable, The Hawks' rebuild has seen eight years' worth of 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks in it's first 3 years,the highly desirable trade assets to acquire most of those picks,the lottery luck to snag Bedard,only one problematic contract and cap-space to die for........all to an unprecedented extent. Detroit has had 2 extra 1st's the last five drafts but no lottery luck at all with only one top-five pick and that was Raymond @#4 OA. The “honest” way never works. Gotta tank. Keeping your team mediocre is not good. Holland let the team die on the vine and kept trying to make the playoffs while drafting. Sounds like someone else we knew. Holland and our last idiot are both old money. There for stupid reasons. Holland ended up having success from Jimmy Develano’s work. Holland was set up for a decade. And that’s all the success he had. Just like our idiot. When he ran out of other guys players. They failed miserably. I see a few decent pieces from the last regime on both Detroit and Chicago. But for the most part, there wasn’t too much and full rebuilds were needed!!! |
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Post by tincup on Sept 25, 2024 8:49:18 GMT -6
Longshot…but nifty move…
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 25, 2024 9:56:21 GMT -6
He's a 3rd rounder, so not that much of a long shot. He was one of the players that stood out at the Kurvers Showcase last year, smart 2way forward with soft hands, as shown in the highlights. And he moves well for a big guy.
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Post by vadarx on Sept 27, 2024 7:59:08 GMT -6
funny article in the Athletic this morning...
Max Shulanov is officially no longer on the 'hawks prospect list... lol. what could've been!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 27, 2024 8:35:33 GMT -6
funny article in the Athletic this morning... Max Shulanov is officially no longer on the 'hawks prospect list... lol. what could've been! Well he is 31 lol and he had one good season in the KHL when he was 29. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Sept 27, 2024 9:35:14 GMT -6
funny article in the Athletic this morning... Max Shulanov is officially no longer on the 'hawks prospect list... lol. what could've been! Well he is 31 lol and he had one good season in the KHL when he was 29. Maybe his short-time in Rockford negatively-affected him given how loaded that team was: www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0047292014.html. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 27, 2024 13:59:22 GMT -6
funny article in the Athletic this morning... Max Shulanov is officially no longer on the 'hawks prospect list... lol. what could've been! Well he is 31 lol and he had one good season in the KHL when he was 29. Gotta think he’s got another inch or so to grow, plus a good 15 lbs. Sorry, couldn’t resist!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 27, 2024 15:51:02 GMT -6
Well he is 31 lol and he had one good season in the KHL when he was 29. Gotta think he’s got another inch or so to grow, plus a good 15 lbs. Sorry, couldn’t resist!!! Yeah because a litany of players continue growing into their 30s lol |
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 27, 2024 17:56:17 GMT -6
looks like there's some good leadership in the pipeline. james joins ryan greene who's co-captain at boston university. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 27, 2024 18:51:07 GMT -6
looks like there's some good leadership in the pipeline. james joins ryan greene who's co-captain at boston university. KDs been drafting some good character guys. For a 6th rounder who only played 2gms last season, that says a lot that he got an A. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 27, 2024 21:47:08 GMT -6
KDs been drafting some good character guys. For a 6th rounder who only played 2gms last season, that says a lot that he got an A. |
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Post by acesandeights on Sept 28, 2024 8:02:01 GMT -6
Two Hawk prospects in Sweden that will very likely not get talked about very much this season scored their first goals of the year. From what I read about Svensson, he fit the mold of what the Hawks look for. He was a 5th rounder so he's a long shot but it will be interesting to see if he can translate some of his goal scoring ability he showed in Swedish juniors last season (24 g's in 25 gms.) to the SHL. In his video, he's the one in front of the net that gets the tip. If you click on the game, it should enlarge it. x.com/Chi_Prospects/status/1837558176926847087 |
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Post by BigT on Sept 28, 2024 8:40:39 GMT -6
My fear is and has always been that the Hawks cannot draft one certain type. If all you draft is slower big guys. The team won’t be effective. If you draft a plethora of different types. Especially with your first rounders and early 2nds. Taking the best available is usually the best plan. But taking the best fastest kid available isn’t always the best. I hope like hell KD looks like a genius in the end. I really do.
Anyone remember when Montreal wanted a center soooooo bad that they took Kotkaniemi with the 3rd overall. Can’t get too fixated on this stuff. Because they passed up on Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes. Etc. I hope the Hawks don’t see players lower than the guys they’ve taken that are rare. I don’t expect every kid to pan out. But if you have 8 first rounders over the past 3 years. I’d think 4-5 making it would be reasonable. Especially having 3 in the top 10.
Let’s hope the drafting strategy pans out. Vic the alternative is absolutely horrifying!!!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 28, 2024 8:52:14 GMT -6
My fear is and has always been that the Hawks cannot draft one certain type. If all you draft is slower big guys. The team won’t be effective. If you draft a plethora of different types. Especially with your first rounders and early 2nds. Taking the best available is usually the best plan. But taking the best fastest kid available isn’t always the best. I hope like hell KD looks like a genius in the end. I really do. Anyone remember when Montreal wanted a center soooooo bad that they took Kotkaniemi with the 3rd overall. Can’t get too fixated on this stuff. Because they passed up on Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes. Etc. I hope the Hawks don’t see players lower than the guys they’ve taken that are rare. I don’t expect every kid to pan out. But if you have 8 first rounders over the past 3 years. I’d think 4-5 making it would be reasonable. Especially having 3 in the top 10. Let’s hope the drafting strategy pans out. Vic the alternative is absolutely horrifying!!! I agreed with what you're saying, especially with Montreals pick and passing on Tkachuk, but I think KDs been doing a good job at drafting different types of players, especially when he took Boisvert and Vanacker this year. Or taking a big right handed dman, who most people had projected around the #2 spot. At least he's not going after little speedy dmen like the Boqvist/Beaudin picks. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 28, 2024 9:15:10 GMT -6
Two Hawk prospects in Sweden that will very likely not get talked about very much this season scored their first goals of the year. From what I read about Svensson, he fit the mold of what the Hawks look for. He was a 5th rounder so he's a long shot but it will be interesting to see if he can translate some of his goal scoring ability he showed in Swedish juniors last season (24 g's in 25 gms.) to the SHL. In his video, he's the one in front of the net that gets the tip. If you click on the game, it should enlarge it. x.com/Chi_Prospects/status/1837558176926847087 I thought Stjernborg would come over this season, his stats aren't impressive but the second I saw him play at the World Juniors I really liked him. He's a tank who never stops working and plays very smart, perfect bottom 6 PK guy. Plus he was the captain and well respected. I like long shots and that's Svensson, his 24g in 25gms was on the J20 team, but still impressive. That goal was his first in the SHL. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 28, 2024 9:39:02 GMT -6
My fear is and has always been that the Hawks cannot draft one certain type. If all you draft is slower big guys. The team won’t be effective. If you draft a plethora of different types. Especially with your first rounders and early 2nds. Taking the best available is usually the best plan. But taking the best fastest kid available isn’t always the best. I hope like hell KD looks like a genius in the end. I really do. Anyone remember when Montreal wanted a center soooooo bad that they took Kotkaniemi with the 3rd overall. Can’t get too fixated on this stuff. Because they passed up on Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes. Etc. I hope the Hawks don’t see players lower than the guys they’ve taken that are rare. I don’t expect every kid to pan out. But if you have 8 first rounders over the past 3 years. I’d think 4-5 making it would be reasonable. Especially having 3 in the top 10. Let’s hope the drafting strategy pans out. Vic the alternative is absolutely horrifying!!! I agreed with what you're saying, especially with Montreals pick and passing on Tkachuk, but I think KDs been doing a good job at drafting different types of players, especially when he took Boisvert and Vanacker this year. Or taking a big right handed dman, who most people had projected around the #2 spot. At least he's not going after little speedy dmen like the Boqvist/Beaudin picks. The past is the past. But I still for the life of me don’t understand taking Boqvist and Beaudin in the 1st round? Anyways. I agree on Boisvert. He was a bit of a different type player. Not one person mentioned his skating. Which is good. They talk about his toughness and his goal scoring. Vanacker I’ve heard really good things about him. But did they need to move up to get him? I doubt that. He went to the stage with a sports coat and a sling! My worries are more along the lines of Moore, Nazar, Thomson, Lardis, Kantserov, Ludwinski, Savoie etc. I’m not saying in any way that they’re all failures. Just stating that it’s a lot of the same type. There’s even more than that. It’s not just size. It’s perimeter type players or softer players. They supposedly like players that play “between the dots”. Well, smaller or softer guys have a harder time doing that. Gotta go to the net if you wanna score!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 28, 2024 10:41:25 GMT -6
I agreed with what you're saying, especially with Montreals pick and passing on Tkachuk, but I think KDs been doing a good job at drafting different types of players, especially when he took Boisvert and Vanacker this year. Or taking a big right handed dman, who most people had projected around the #2 spot. At least he's not going after little speedy dmen like the Boqvist/Beaudin picks. The past is the past. But I still for the life of me don’t understand taking Boqvist and Beaudin in the 1st round? Anyways. I agree on Boisvert. He was a bit of a different type player. Not one person mentioned his skating. Which is good. They talk about his toughness and his goal scoring. Vanacker I’ve heard really good things about him. But did they need to move up to get him? I doubt that. He went to the stage with a sports coat and a sling! My worries are more along the lines of Moore, Nazar, Thomson, Lardis, Kantserov, Ludwinski, Savoie etc. I’m not saying in any way that they’re all failures. Just stating that it’s a lot of the same type. There’s even more than that. It’s not just size. It’s perimeter type players or softer players. They supposedly like players that play “between the dots”. Well, smaller or softer guys have a harder time doing that. Gotta go to the net if you wanna score!!! I haven't seen Thomson or Kantserov but I wouldn't call the other guys perimeter players, especially Savoie. Even Lardis has been laying out hits and crashing the net, game 1 vs Detroit I heard a loud hit and the fans cheer and John said Lardis with a big hit. But even if they are perimeter players there's a good mix of gritty vets to do the dirty work. And some day they'll have guys like Dach, Spellacy, Boisvert, and Vanacker to take over for some vets. Moving up to get Vanacker might not have been needed but they thought he might've been taken before their 2nd round pick. He reminds me of Toews for getting pucks back, and we've mentioned it that he could've scored 50 goals, 100pts if he didn't injure his shoulder last November. |
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Post by BigT on Sept 28, 2024 10:58:12 GMT -6
I never mentioned this on here last year. But Anthony Cristoforo is a Right shot dman with a good scoring touch for the Windsor Spitfires. For what ever reason he wasn’t drafted last year. Spits were atrocious no doubt. But as a 16/17 year old he had 41 points. Last year he had 37. But the team was bad. He skates very well. This year in 2 games he’s got 5 points leading the Spits. He’s such a good skater that I could see him putting up 80+ points. Spits will be much better. Much. So he should be a draft target of many teams. He’s 6’ 180. Which isn’t tiny but isnt huge. He’s the prototypical puck mover. Home opener tonight. He should have some good numbers against Kitchener!!!
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Post by tincup on Sept 28, 2024 12:23:54 GMT -6
Third rounder Jack Pridham gets one…goalie probably wants that one back…
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Post by tincup on Sept 28, 2024 18:52:06 GMT -6
He'll grow into a good player for us...
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