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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 25, 2019 10:53:45 GMT -6
Talk about our future stars.
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 31, 2019 9:15:39 GMT -6
If facing adversity builds character, then prospects like Boqvist, Beaudin, Kurashev. Gilbert and the others at Rockford should have character to spare. I just hope despite the season Rockford is having so far, it doesn't negatively affect the development of the young prospects. In another year or two, they should be knocking on the door.
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 31, 2019 9:28:04 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 31, 2019 9:33:24 GMT -6
If facing adversity builds character, then prospects like Boqvist, Beaudin, Kurashev. Gilbert and the others at Rockford should have character to spare. I just hope despite the season Rockford is having so far, it doesn't negatively affect the development of the young prospects. In another year or two, they should be knocking on the door. I agree. They got to the AHL semis with JC as coach in 2017/2018 and lost to Canes AHL team. And it looked like they were on their way but last season dropped off when JC got called up to the Hawks. My thoughts were that JC was hired to replace Q in about 5 years. JC gets time to work and teach kids the system, which to me was a team concept. In other words the organizations system. I think that Q and JC would have talked and worked on it together. JC works the kids to learn it and Q doesn't have to worry about teaching it to the prospects as they come up. But somewhere Q and SB had a complete fallout and JC gets thrown in the middle of the developing fued. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 31, 2019 9:35:51 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 1, 2019 18:41:50 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 1, 2019 18:59:16 GMT -6
He has a career as a blogger if this hockey thing don't work out. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 1, 2019 19:54:50 GMT -6
After the trade I watched a compilation video from his first season in London 2017/18, and he has some skill and he's smart. I'm surprised there isn't a compilation video from last season where he put up good numbers, especially with Bouchard and Boqvist on the point, 3 deadly righties. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 1, 2019 20:03:11 GMT -6
If facing adversity builds character, then prospects like Boqvist, Beaudin, Kurashev. Gilbert and the others at Rockford should have character to spare. I just hope despite the season Rockford is having so far, it doesn't negatively affect the development of the young prospects. In another year or two, they should be knocking on the door. I agree. They got to the AHL semis with JC as coach in 2017/2018 and lost to Canes AHL team. And it looked like they were on their way but last season dropped off when JC got called up to the Hawks. My thoughts were that JC was hired to replace Q in about 5 years. JC gets time to work and teach kids the system, which to me was a team concept. In other words the organizations system. I think that Q and JC would have talked and worked on it together. JC works the kids to learn it and Q doesn't have to worry about teaching it to the prospects as they come up. But somewhere Q and SB had a complete fallout and JC gets thrown in the middle of the developing fued. I was thinking 3-5yrs but Q and Stan created a rift in this team awhile back, sounds like kids like Hartman made it worse because they were loyal to Stan. But just over 1 season in the AHL and Bowman made a horrible move, first by not giving Q quality depth then fired him at the start of a season and replacing him with Colliton. Now King is the coach and both teams aren't doing well. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 1, 2019 20:19:16 GMT -6
anyways, as one person remarked on twitter....he's likely a top 3 or 4 defender on this team the moment his skates hit the ice.
i hope he see's PP time early and often. i mean, it's not like there's any semblance of a system in place he needs to learn.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 1, 2019 20:51:13 GMT -6
anyways, as one person remarked on twitter....he's likely a top 3 or 4 defender on this team the moment his skates hit the ice. i hope he see's PP time early and often. i mean, it's not like there's any semblance of a system in place he needs to learn. I'd pair Boqvist and Maata, de Haan-Keith, Gilbert-Seabs. Sit Gus. Colliton said he's good on the PP and they haven't been so hopefully he replaces Gus on the 1st PP. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 1, 2019 23:21:52 GMT -6
I'd pair Boqvist and Maata, de Haan-Keith, Gilbert-Seabs. Sit Gus. Colliton said he's good on the PP and they haven't been so hopefully he replaces Gus on the 1st PP. this from scott powers. |
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Post by acesandeights on Nov 2, 2019 7:36:20 GMT -6
I don't subscribe to the online version of the Chicago Tribune but there was an article with a title of:
"Adam Boqvist's likely NHL debut Saturday isn't the only big change coming to the Blackhawks."
I'm curious what "big change" the writer thinks could be coming. Could it Gus related?
T-man, I think you had mentioned previously you thought maybe a trade might happen? Is it possible Stan could pull the plug on Gus? The way I look at it, with offensive prospects like Boqvist and Beaudin, surely, Gus isn't in the Hawks long term plans. And surely Stan isn't thinking "We'll need Gus in the playoffs."
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Post by hsbob on Nov 2, 2019 7:44:28 GMT -6
I said Gus would get more exposed every game when I saw him get RUN OVER by the Caps in that preseason blow out. I bought into the PP hype a bit myself last year but it ended up 15th and to be honest,it ws mostly due to the PP performances of 12,19 and 88...….Gus offers the PP little now and he's actually a vulnerability.
It's no mistake Gus is on for ever short handed goal or chance against.
Gus shoulda been moved this summer(he said 1,000 times) and if he's scratched,his value plummets.
I saw Boqvist make some nifty plays against some NHL players in a few PS games and let's not forget that Q thought he was close last year. If he and Dach can withstand the grind...….I think both have the talent.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 2, 2019 7:48:12 GMT -6
I don't subscribe to the online version of the Chicago Tribune but there was an article with a title of: "Adam Boqvist's likely NHL debut Saturday isn't the only big change coming to the Blackhawks." I'm curious what "big change" the writer thinks could be coming. Could it Gus related? T-man, I think you had mentioned previously you thought maybe a trade might happen? Is it possible Stan could pull the plug on Gus? The way I look at it, with offensive prospects like Boqvist and Beaudin, surely, Gus isn't in the Hawks long term plans. And surely Stan isn't thinking "We'll need Gus in the playoffs." I used to be able to access the Trib on a mobile app but now it says I reached my monthly limit...………..it's the 2nd and I haven't used it in a week!LOL! If anyone else reads that article......do tell |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 2, 2019 8:38:45 GMT -6
I'd pair Boqvist and Maata, de Haan-Keith, Gilbert-Seabs. Sit Gus. Colliton said he's good on the PP and they haven't been so hopefully he replaces Gus on the 1st PP. this from scott powers. I don't like Koekkoek ahead of Gilbert but it's nice to see Gus in the 8th spot 👍 And de Haan is a better skater than Maatta so he's better suited to play with Seabs. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 2, 2019 8:55:50 GMT -6
I don't like Koekkoek ahead of Gilbert but it's nice to see Gus in the 8th spot 👍 And de Haan is a better skater than Maatta so he's better suited to play with Seabs. Gilbert is not only better,he's also much more part of the team's future...……….you'd think SOMEBODY would F'n realize that! |
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Post by BigT on Nov 2, 2019 9:09:22 GMT -6
I don't subscribe to the online version of the Chicago Tribune but there was an article with a title of: "Adam Boqvist's likely NHL debut Saturday isn't the only big change coming to the Blackhawks." I'm curious what "big change" the writer thinks could be coming. Could it Gus related? T-man, I think you had mentioned previously you thought maybe a trade might happen? Is it possible Stan could pull the plug on Gus? The way I look at it, with offensive prospects like Boqvist and Beaudin, surely, Gus isn't in the Hawks long term plans. And surely Stan isn't thinking "We'll need Gus in the playoffs." I used to be able to access the Trib on a mobile app but now it says I reached my monthly limit...………..it's the 2nd and I haven't used it in a week!LOL! If anyone else reads that article......do tell Bob, I just read it. I think the title was a bit misleading. It didn’t really talk of trade banter or anything like that. But here’s the “changes”. Change 1) Toews-Nylander-Saad. Change 2) Toews is off the first pp unit. He’s on the 2nd with 4 rookies. Boqvist- Kubalik-Dach and Nylander. Top unit has Kane, Dcat, Strome, Shaw, Keith. 3rd change was Gustafsson is a healthy scratch. I’ll try and post a link to see if it works. A lot of times it’s due to you fine Chicago folks get blacked out, the ol Wirtz treatment!!! |
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Post by BigT on Nov 2, 2019 9:11:59 GMT -6
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Post by ebonyraptor on Nov 2, 2019 9:37:36 GMT -6
Stopped by the old place and it looks like the doors finally closed. Big time bummer. But, on a positive note - I like the look of this place.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Nov 2, 2019 9:39:14 GMT -6
Yes, that link worked for me, and I agree the title is misleading. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 2, 2019 9:49:17 GMT -6
Stopped by the old place and it looks like the doors finally closed. Big time bummer. But, on a positive note - I like the look of this place. Thanks, I'm still working on it. Afterall Rome wasn't created in a day, but the boards were created in an hour. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 2, 2019 9:58:52 GMT -6
I used to be able to access the Trib on a mobile app but now it says I reached my monthly limit...………..it's the 2nd and I haven't used it in a week!LOL! If anyone else reads that article......do tell Bob, I just read it. I think the title was a bit misleading. It didn’t really talk of trade banter or anything like that. But here’s the “changes”. Change 1) Toews-Nylander-Saad. Change 2) Toews is off the first pp unit. He’s on the 2nd with 4 rookies. Boqvist- Kubalik-Dach and Nylander. Top unit has Kane, Dcat, Strome, Shaw, Keith. 3rd change was Gustafsson is a healthy scratch. I’ll try and post a link to see if it works. A lot of times it’s due to you fine Chicago folks get blacked out, the ol Wirtz treatment!!! Pretty much just back to rearranging 'deck chairs' my friend when it comes to line combos. JT was off the top unit most of the Preds game too......really picked it up!LOL! What's Gus worth if we start scratching him? You almost HAVE to dress him until you can trade him at this point but scratching players before we trade em seems to be the new thing...………..WONDERFUL! |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 2, 2019 10:00:33 GMT -6
Stopped by the old place and it looks like the doors finally closed. Big time bummer. But, on a positive note - I like the look of this place. Graet to see ya buddy! |
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Post by BigT on Nov 2, 2019 10:11:10 GMT -6
Bob, I just read it. I think the title was a bit misleading. It didn’t really talk of trade banter or anything like that. But here’s the “changes”. Change 1) Toews-Nylander-Saad. Change 2) Toews is off the first pp unit. He’s on the 2nd with 4 rookies. Boqvist- Kubalik-Dach and Nylander. Top unit has Kane, Dcat, Strome, Shaw, Keith. 3rd change was Gustafsson is a healthy scratch. I’ll try and post a link to see if it works. A lot of times it’s due to you fine Chicago folks get blacked out, the ol Wirtz treatment!!! Pretty much just back to rearranging 'deck chairs' my friend when it comes to line combos. JT was off the top unit most of the Preds game too......really picked it up!LOL! What's Gus worth if we start scratching him? You almost HAVE to dress him until you can trade him at this point but scratching players before we trade em seems to be the new thing...………..WONDERFUL! Ya, I don’t get it either. We chatted last off-season about moving him while we have his replacement in tow. We maybe coulda got a late first rounder for him or at least a very high 2nd rounder. Soon, I think we need to see actual change, or else it’s just utter lunacy. Q got till this time last year, how long does Staniel get??? |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 2, 2019 10:29:55 GMT -6
Pretty much just back to rearranging 'deck chairs' my friend when it comes to line combos. JT was off the top unit most of the Preds game too......really picked it up!LOL! What's Gus worth if we start scratching him? You almost HAVE to dress him until you can trade him at this point but scratching players before we trade em seems to be the new thing...………..WONDERFUL! Ya, I don’t get it either. We chatted last off-season about moving him while we have his replacement in tow. We maybe coulda got a late first rounder for him or at least a very high 2nd rounder. Soon, I think we need to see actual change, or else it’s just utter lunacy. Q got till this time last year, how long does Staniel get??? IMO,JC goes down as the next scapegoat and SB gets the rest of the year unfortunately...…….he won't be canned as long as Scotty's still whispering into McDbag's ear. To be honest,I gave SB credit for acquiring Gus on the old boards but not moving him last summer negated that acquisition if he's being scratched now. SB and JC put their heads together and really made an ass of thenselves when they traded Joker...………….what team needs a good,young D-man more than the Hawks? Is there another GM in the league that trades his own 1st round pick that made the league as a 19yro D-man for a project player......has there ever been one? I can't say for sure what Gus woulda fetched last summer but SB got a 3rd for Bollig for God's sake...…...gotta think a 60 point D-men has more value than Bollig! |
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Post by acesandeights on Nov 2, 2019 11:17:45 GMT -6
Pretty much just back to rearranging 'deck chairs' my friend when it comes to line combos. JT was off the top unit most of the Preds game too......really picked it up!LOL! What's Gus worth if we start scratching him? You almost HAVE to dress him until you can trade him at this point but scratching players before we trade em seems to be the new thing...………..WONDERFUL! Ya, I don’t get it either. We chatted last off-season about moving him while we have his replacement in tow. We maybe coulda got a late first rounder for him or at least a very high 2nd rounder. Soon, I think we need to see actual change, or else it’s just utter lunacy. Q got till this time last year, how long does Staniel get??? I remember you and a few others mentioning this. And it made perfect sense. I know I said this earlier in the thread but I just don't see how Gus could be in the team's long term plans when we have young offensive minded guys like Boqvist here now, Beaudin in the very near future, and maybe Mitchell coming soon. And I'd bet they could end up playing better defense. I'm pretty sure you have preached in the past "Deal from a position of strength." Now look at Gus. Stan should have cashed in his chips while he had a bigger stack. |
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Post by BigT on Nov 2, 2019 13:01:18 GMT -6
Ya, I don’t get it either. We chatted last off-season about moving him while we have his replacement in tow. We maybe coulda got a late first rounder for him or at least a very high 2nd rounder. Soon, I think we need to see actual change, or else it’s just utter lunacy. Q got till this time last year, how long does Staniel get??? I remember you and a few others mentioning this. And it made perfect sense. I know I said this earlier in the thread but I just don't see how Gus could be in the team's long term plans when we have young offensive minded guys like Boqvist here now, Beaudin in the very near future, and maybe Mitchell coming soon. And I'd bet they could end up playing better defense. I'm pretty sure you have preached in the past "Deal from a position of strength." Now look at Gus. Stan should have cashed in his chips while he had a bigger stack. The most logical way to go about the salary cap is probably not the most popular. Always trade from a strength to aid a weakness. For example, trade Gustafsson while his stock is super high, we have his replacement just about ready. Gustafsson makes 1.2 million, moving that contract was easy and should have been done. At the time I can see how it would be unpopular trading a 60+ point dman on a very very affordable contract. Next. If Dach becomes the player we desire, then we’ll have to seriously look into trading Strome. If the Hawks are basically gonna tank, the best thing to do is to run and gun, get some guys some decent numbers and trade them for either younger cheaper players or for good draft picks to keep the pipeline going. The team has been damaged greatly by not using this approach. They did not get much for their salary dumps. Some unpopular moves should’ve been made earlier on. To get max value for our guys continue to thrive with newer cheaper players. Our core should not have exceeded 4 players, and it shouldn’t going forward. There’s always an outer core, or the 2nd ring. No more than 4 NMC. The year before your in a cap crunch, if a player won’t sign a reasonable deal, trade them and get younger and cheaper. Again, Stan has not done this. He’s always waited till the bitter end and it caught up to him in 2015, from there he’s been painted in a corner that won’t dry. Now he’s just chasing the dream, and the dream is probably over. He’s doing everything and anything to add cheaper fringe players and make them look good with our core, it hasn’t worked and it’s not going to. This is why he needs to be replaced, he’s like the heroin addict trying to get that same high he once got, now he’s just a junkie ruining our team!!! |
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Post by vonbeck on Nov 2, 2019 17:51:28 GMT -6
anyways, as one person remarked on twitter....he's likely a top 3 or 4 defender on this team the moment his skates hit the ice. i hope he see's PP time early and often. i mean, it's not like there's any semblance of a system in place he needs to learn. I'd pair Boqvist and Maata, de Haan-Keith, Gilbert-Seabs. Sit Gus. Colliton said he's good on the PP and they haven't been so hopefully he replaces Gus on the 1st PP. God Yes, please sit Gus! Look the guy is a good "offensive" defense man, but holy shit he's just such a liability back there. I really like Gilbert, just wish he could skate a bit better, but I know that's not really his thing, so... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 17:56:21 GMT -6
I'd pair Boqvist and Maata, de Haan-Keith, Gilbert-Seabs. Sit Gus. Colliton said he's good on the PP and they haven't been so hopefully he replaces Gus on the 1st PP. God Yes, please sit Gus! Look the guy is a good "offensive" defense man, but holy shit he's just such a liability back there. I really like Gilbert, just wish he could skate a bit better, but I know that's not really his thing, so... Gus out tonight, sitting in the press box. |
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