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Post by vonbeck on Nov 2, 2019 18:35:37 GMT -6
God Yes, please sit Gus! Look the guy is a good "offensive" defense man, but holy shit he's just such a liability back there. I really like Gilbert, just wish he could skate a bit better, but I know that's not really his thing, so... Gus out tonight, sitting in the press box. Noice! Thank the Hockey Gods... |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 2, 2019 19:46:45 GMT -6
Hogs with a huge comeback vs the 7-1-1-1 Wild.
Hogs were down 2-0 in the last 3mins then Carlsson scored, over 20sec later Carlsson assists on T.Sikuras tying goal. In OT Highmore with the GWG.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2019 19:52:43 GMT -6
Hogs with a huge comeback vs the 7-1-1-1 Wild. Hogs were down 2-0 in the last 3mins then Carlsson scored, over 20sec later Carlsson assists on T.Sikuras tying goal. In OT Highmore with the GWG. i started a hogs thread a few minutes ago, boxscore included. yep....nice win. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 2, 2019 22:26:44 GMT -6
I almost forgot our other draft pick 6'-6" Dman Alex Vlasic.
Playing at Boston U.
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Post by tincup on Nov 4, 2019 2:00:42 GMT -6
I almost forgot our other draft pick 6'-6" Dman Alex Vlasic. Playing at Boston U. So if it all works out down the road we are icing some combination of Boqvist, Mitchell, Vlasic, Regula, Beaudin, Gilbert, Moberg, Krys, and Carlson and probably a couple of younger vets via free agency or trades. Good mix of size, split pretty even between right shots and left shots. Might not be so bad. |
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Post by Tater on Nov 5, 2019 3:07:08 GMT -6
I'd be happy if they got rid of Gus and brought Gilbert up.
Of course Stan and JC should be gone.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 6, 2019 8:26:50 GMT -6
I'd be happy if they got rid of Gus and brought Gilbert up. Of course Stan and JC should be gone. Gilbert is up but just sitting while the great Gus and Koekkoek play. Hawks played 3 dirty Cali teams and didn't dress Gilbert for 1gm. Stan, JC, and Mcdonut should all be let go right now, if that doesn't wake the team up start moving core guys. Such a heartless pathetic team. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 6, 2019 9:40:52 GMT -6
I'd be happy if they got rid of Gus and brought Gilbert up. Of course Stan and JC should be gone. Gilbert is up but just sitting while the great Gus and Koekkoek play. Hawks played 3 dirty Cali teams and didn't dress Gilbert for 1gm. Stan, JC, and Mcdonut should all be let go right now, if that doesn't wake the team up start moving core guys. Such a heartless pathetic team. Gilbert seems to be another young player whoās allowed no mistakes what so ever by JC I hate to put so much on the young coach but Iām not sure heās cut from the right cloth. Trading a core layer or two should be in play regardless of how much I support em all but how? Of course youād start with the two aging D-men but then youāre staring down the double barrel of full NMCās and big contracts. |
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Post by doogiew on Nov 6, 2019 10:48:12 GMT -6
Gilbert is up but just sitting while the great Gus and Koekkoek play. Hawks played 3 dirty Cali teams and didn't dress Gilbert for 1gm. Stan, JC, and Mcdonut should all be let go right now, if that doesn't wake the team up start moving core guys. Such a heartless pathetic team. Gilbert seems to be another young player whoās allowed no mistakes what so ever by JC I hate to put so much on the young coach but Iām not sure heās cut from the right cloth. Trading a core layer or two should be in play regardless of how much I support em all but how? Of course youād start with the two aging D-men but then youāre staring down the double barrel of full NMCās and big contracts. The problem with the JC is he can't see the team he has before him and developing his systems to suit them rather he is being headstrong. This is an offensive team that has been handed him. Up and down the lineup are 20 goal scorers. I'd list them all but most are aware. The surprise is the newcomers that would be considered like Kubalik Nylander and even Dach all possible 20 goal scorers. We all seen what can happen when let lose a win streak at the end of last season that nearly put them in the playoffs. Right now I have no idea what we're seeing but a bunch f lost boys and missed talent. The goaltenders is in place to play a run and gun style. Get to work on the PK and PP. Working your systems in as you go. Glen Sather did it with the Oilers I don't understand JC. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 6, 2019 12:59:21 GMT -6
Gilbert is up but just sitting while the great Gus and Koekkoek play. Hawks played 3 dirty Cali teams and didn't dress Gilbert for 1gm. Stan, JC, and Mcdonut should all be let go right now, if that doesn't wake the team up start moving core guys. Such a heartless pathetic team. Gilbert seems to be another young player whoās allowed no mistakes what so ever by JC I hate to put so much on the young coach but Iām not sure heās cut from the right cloth. Trading a core layer or two should be in play regardless of how much I support em all but how? Of course youād start with the two aging D-men but then youāre staring down the double barrel of full NMCās and big contracts. Then why isn't Gilbert playing? And after that bad turnover early in his first game this season I haven't seen many mistakes. Not like Gus, Koekkoek, and Keith. The NMC's are terrible, especially with Seabs contract but I'm sure could be moved, just over 5mill isn't bad. I was a big supporter of JC but he was brought up way to soon, probably 2yrs to soon and he looks lost and has no clue how to use these players. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 6, 2019 17:28:46 GMT -6
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Post by irmaks on Nov 6, 2019 17:35:15 GMT -6
I always was giving benefit of doubt to Stan and JC but I'm getting to the point where I want to say they both totally lost it |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 6, 2019 17:49:48 GMT -6
I always was giving benefit of doubt to Stan and JC but I'm getting to the point where I want to say they both totally lost it I'm thinking more like that Murphy is getting close to returning, you have to send either Gilbert or Boqvist back down. Other option is they need to trade Gus for nothing now and coco-puffs will be traded also. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 6, 2019 17:54:43 GMT -6
I always was giving benefit of doubt to Stan and JC but I'm getting to the point where I want to say they both totally lost it I'm thinking more like that Murphy is getting close to returning, you have to send either Gilbert or Boqvist back down. Other option is they need to trade Gus for nothing now and coco-puffs will be traded also. i think even if murphy has healed quicker than expected he has 4 more games he has to sit out regardless. he won't be eligble to come off LTIR until the 16th. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 6, 2019 18:04:10 GMT -6
I'm thinking more like that Murphy is getting close to returning, you have to send either Gilbert or Boqvist back down. Other option is they need to trade Gus for nothing now and coco-puffs will be traded also. i think even if murphy has healed quicker than expected he has 4 more games he has to sit out regardless. he won't be eligble to come off LTIR until the 16th. I get why they send him down right now. Need to play Gus to showcase him to trade him. Gilbert doesn't benefit sitting in the press box. Rather he be playing in Rockford than sit here. |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Nov 6, 2019 21:27:06 GMT -6
I almost forgot our other draft pick 6'-6" Dman Alex Vlasic. Playing at Boston U. So if it all works out down the road we are icing some combination of Boqvist, Mitchell, Vlasic, Regula, Beaudin, Gilbert, Moberg, Krys, and Carlson and probably a couple of younger vets via free agency or trades. Good mix of size, split pretty even between right shots and left shots. Might not be so bad. I still have a hunch Mitchell doesnāt sign here and moves on to another team. And frankly, I wouldnāt blame him. If I was him, I would do the exact same thing 100%. |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 6, 2019 22:49:59 GMT -6
So if it all works out down the road we are icing some combination of Boqvist, Mitchell, Vlasic, Regula, Beaudin, Gilbert, Moberg, Krys, and Carlson and probably a couple of younger vets via free agency or trades. Good mix of size, split pretty even between right shots and left shots. Might not be so bad.Ā I still have a hunch Mitchell doesnāt sign here and moves on to another team. And frankly, I wouldnāt blame him. If I was him, I would do the exact same thing 100%. this has been my concern in regards to him as well for quite a while. if he doesn't sign by the draft, they absolutely have to try and trade him for anything they can get. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 6, 2019 23:49:36 GMT -6
I think mitchell will stay just going by his comments a few months back but maybe thats just me being naive.
Anyways...this teply's looking pretty good it seems.
Helluva' wrister there.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 7, 2019 0:51:06 GMT -6
I think mitchell will stay just going by his comments a few months back but maybe thats just me being naive. Anyways...this teply's looking pretty good it seems. Helluva' wrister there. I've been keeping an eye on him and I'm gonna see him when they play the Oilkings. I like the vids on YouTube and he looked good in Traverse. And I'm naive as well, Mitchell seems like a good kid and hopefully he's honest and signs next year |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 7, 2019 3:50:52 GMT -6
I think mitchell will stay just going by his comments a few months back but maybe thats just me being naive. Anyways...this teply's looking pretty good it seems. Helluva' wrister there. I've been keeping an eye on him and I'm gonna see him when they play the Oilkings. I like the vids on YouTube and he looked good in Traverse. And I'm naive as well, Mitchell seems like a good kid and hopefully he's honest and signs next year I hope the same, and I have to believe he has to see the opportunity here for playing time. also, he is only a junior so he would have to play another season in Denver before he became a free agent. I hope we see him before the season is over, but likely we don't unless Denver flames out and doesn't make the frozen 4 (they are currently ranked #1 and are unbeaten). |
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Post by irmaks on Nov 7, 2019 8:59:20 GMT -6
i think even if murphy has healed quicker than expected he has 4 more games he has to sit out regardless. he won't be eligble to come off LTIR until the 16th. I get why they send him down right now. Need to play Gus to showcase him to trade him. Gilbert doesn't benefit sitting in the press box. Rather he be playing in Rockford than sit here. I think at this point they better to showcase Gus at the bench š |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 7, 2019 9:27:33 GMT -6
I get why they send him down right now. Need to play Gus to showcase him to trade him. Gilbert doesn't benefit sitting in the press box. Rather he be playing in Rockford than sit here. I think at this point they better to showcase Gus at the bench š Not trading Gus last summer when he was still worth something as I and many others were screaming for has led to a very unfortunate situation thatās actually hurting the team. Not trading him last summer had really no good possible outcome because if he played well it would mean the team was playing well and competing for a spot because heās really just a by-product of the team and that makes a TDL deal a tough call but if he played poorly as we now see, his value would drop to that of a defenseman who canāt play defense and thatās getting exposed every game now. Having him on this yearās roster seems to be doing nothing but gumming up the works for some deserving young defenseman, Gilbert isnāt 19 or 20, heās 22 and should be playing or he gets passed by like Dahlstrom did and Boqvist shoulda made the roster out of camp. This is a classic catch 22 because playing poorly absolutely ruins his value and playing well could easily result in losing him for nothing or worse yet.........giving him a big contract. SB made a good move by acquiring the player but he threw away what should have been the payoff by not trading him. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 7, 2019 11:11:23 GMT -6
I think at this point they better to showcase Gus at the bench š Not trading Gus last summer when he was still worth something as I and many others were screaming for has led to a very unfortunate situation thatās actually hurting the team. Not trading him last summer had really no good possible outcome because if he played well it would mean the team was playing well and competing for a spot because heās really just a by-product of the team and that makes a TDL deal a tough call but if he played poorly as we now see, his value would drop to that of a defenseman who canāt play defense and thatās getting exposed every game now. Having him on this yearās roster seems to be doing nothing but gumming up the works for some deserving young defenseman, Gilbert isnāt 19 or 20, heās 22 and should be playing or he gets passed by like Dahlstrom did and Boqvist shoulda made the roster out of camp. This is a classic catch 22 because playing poorly absolutely ruins his value and playing well could easily result in losing him for nothing or worse yet.........giving him a big contract. SB made a good move by acquiring the player but he threw away what should have been the payoff by not trading him. Do you think if the Hawks decided to play Boqvist, Gilbert and Dahlstrom there was no need for Maatta and De Haan? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 7, 2019 13:05:02 GMT -6
I think at this point they better to showcase Gus at the bench š Not trading Gus last summer when he was still worth something as I and many others were screaming for has led to a very unfortunate situation thatās actually hurting the team. Ā Not trading him last summer had really no good possible outcome because if he played well it would mean the team was playing well and competing for a spot because heās really just a by-product of the team and that makes a TDL deal a tough call but if he played poorly as we now see, his value would drop to that of a defenseman who canāt play defense and thatās getting exposed every game now. Ā Having him on this yearās roster seems to be doing nothing but gumming up the works for some deserving young defenseman, Gilbert isnāt 19 or 20, heās 22 and should be playing or he gets passed by like Dahlstrom did and Boqvist shoulda made the roster out of camp. This is a classic catch 22 because playing poorly absolutely ruins his value and playing well could easily result in losing him for nothing or worse yet.........giving him a big contract. SB made a good move by acquiring the player but he threw away what should have been the payoff by not trading him. And that's why we wanted him traded while his value was high, don't want him to regress and lose value (like he's doing) or he puts up offensive numbers again and they keep him past the trade deadline and lose him for nothing. With de Haan and Maatta it should've been an easy move plus like you said, Gilbert is 22 just Carlsson and Tuulola is 23, those 3 should've been fighting for spots with Dahlstrom. Koekkoek should've been let go. Stan has made some better moves since moving Hossas contract and getting Entwistle but he also did some dumb things like not trading Gus, trading Jokiharju, and re-signing Koekkoek. |
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Post by kronostin on Nov 7, 2019 13:23:01 GMT -6
It seems whoever plays defense gets lost in JC system. I have seen guys skating back getting their legs crossed when they remember they are playing man coverage. Assignments are being missed. Also, the dump and chase won't work with who we have as forwards. Maybe Shaw and Caggiula but they really don't have the size to compete effectively. Our two best offensive players are ineffective in this offensive scheme. Carpenter and Saad are doing ok, but Carp has had no puck luck. So, unless JC tailors his game plan to his players he(we) won't have much success. I also do not appreciate his smug approach to team criticism. Every once in a while he should go to Seabs, Toews, Keith, and maybe even Edzo, and say...how do I win with what I have. I am guessing that is too much to ask!! Disappointed, but not entirely unexpected.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 9, 2019 20:57:24 GMT -6
look closely at this goal by hawk's prospect evan barratt.
i don't think i've seen one like it.
while we're at it, regula scored another tonight as well.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 10, 2019 13:12:23 GMT -6
look closely at this goal by hawk's prospect evan barratt. i don't think i've seen one like it. while we're at it, regula scored another tonight as well. šÆ what a sick move by Barratt. There was a poster on the old Hawks boards that raved about him and I can see why. From the highlights I've seen and the World Juniors he looks like a top6 forward who works hard at both ends. Regula is a regular scorer š sweet hands and he's a big righty š |
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Post by irmaks on Nov 11, 2019 10:17:37 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Nov 11, 2019 10:34:01 GMT -6
Nice and quick. At this point Iām guessing they know him pretty well. A point a game defenseman and yet heās still 10th among defense scoring, albeit in fewer games. Impressive scoring for defensemen in the OHL. Most of his points come on the PP with five goals and nine PP points and yet still leads all defensemen in the OHL in +/-. Iām liking that as well. Future is rounding into shape. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 11, 2019 11:18:40 GMT -6
Nice and quick. At this point Iām guessing they know him pretty well. A point a game defenseman and yet heās still 10th among defense scoring, albeit in fewer games. Impressive scoring for defensemen in the OHL. Most of his points come on the PP with five goals and nine PP points and yet still leads all defensemen in the OHL in +/-. Iām liking that as well. Future is rounding into shape. It's a really good move, especially cause he's a big right handed dman who played with Boqvist and in turn Campbell seen a lot of him too. |
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