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Post by bigbarn27 on Sept 3, 2024 7:20:27 GMT -6
Thanks for the article GT. My woman is heading to St. Louis on the 15th for work trying to tell her she should go down the 13th to get ready no luck yet. Hoping the blows forward group is stacked like ours should be kinda fun.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 3, 2024 11:51:35 GMT -6
I love how Del Mastro and Levshunov are together. And I really like the forwards lines. Nazar, Spellacy, Misiak, and Ludwinski are the centers. |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 4, 2024 8:35:00 GMT -6
I love how Del Mastro and Levshunov are together. And I really like the forwards lines. Nazar, Spellacy, Misiak, and Ludwinski are the centers. It's a promising group of youngsters without a doubt,but there is an overabundance of young left-shot D-men,in the system and on the roster. I'm not sure how much of an issue this is these days but with Vlasic,KK,Phillips,Allen,Kaiser and EDM all being left-shot D-men,that Leaves only Crevier and Levshunov as young,right-shot D prospects. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 4, 2024 14:34:22 GMT -6
I love how Del Mastro and Levshunov are together. And I really like the forwards lines. Nazar, Spellacy, Misiak, and Ludwinski are the centers. It's a promising group of youngsters without a doubt,but there is an overabundance of young left-shot D-men,in the system and on the roster. I'm not sure how much of an issue this is these days but with Vlasic,KK,Phillips,Allen,Kaiser and EDM all being left-shot D-men,that Leaves only Crevier and Levshunov as young,right-shot D prospects. You forgot Rinzel. The good thing about most of the left shots is that they can play either side. |
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Post by tincup on Sept 4, 2024 16:05:40 GMT -6
The Second City site is about to start their annual "Top 25 under 25" rankings. They don't always get it right, pretty speculative after the first few, but it's fun to follow. But a reminder how fast things change.
Kyle Davidson was named the team’s interim general manager in October 2021 and had the interim tag removed on March 1, 2022. As a reminder of what Davidson inherited when he took over, here was our T25U25 ranking from the summer of 2021:
Alex DeBrincat
Kirby Dach
Dylan Strome
Philipp Kurashev
Lukas Reichel
Brandon Hagel
Ian Mitchell
Wyatt Kalynuk
Nicolas Beaudin
Drew Commesso
Henrik Borgstrom
Riley Stillman
Alex Vlasic
Alex Nylander
Arvid Soderblom
MacKenzie Entwistle
Wyatt Kaiser
Alec Regula
Evan Barratt
Landon Slaggert
Isaak Phillips
Nolan Allan
Artur Kayumov
Adam Gaudette
Mike Hardman
Honorable Mentions: Caleb Jones, Michal
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Post by hsbob on Sept 5, 2024 8:13:06 GMT -6
The Second City site is about to start their annual "Top 25 under 25" rankings. They don't always get it right, pretty speculative after the first few, but it's fun to follow. But a reminder how fast things change. Kyle Davidson was named the team’s interim general manager in October 2021 and had the interim tag removed on March 1, 2022. As a reminder of what Davidson inherited when he took over, here was our T25U25 ranking from the summer of 2021: Alex DeBrincat Kirby Dach Dylan Strome Philipp Kurashev Lukas Reichel Brandon Hagel Ian Mitchell Wyatt Kalynuk Nicolas Beaudin Drew Commesso Henrik Borgstrom Riley Stillman Alex Vlasic Alex Nylander Arvid Soderblom MacKenzie Entwistle Wyatt Kaiser Alec Regula Evan Barratt Landon Slaggert Isaak Phillips Nolan Allan Artur Kayumov Adam Gaudette Mike Hardman Honorable Mentions: Caleb Jones, Michal There's no denying our improved prospect pool but a few other reminders of what was inherited are the four 1st's and a few 2nd's we got for D-Cat,Hagle and Dach,shoulda got something for Strome,Vlasic is the team's best young D-man,Kurshev's a legit NHL'er,Reichel still has potential,Kaiser,Phillips and Allan do too and Commesso might be the best GT prospect in the system. DUMBASS had his share of stinkers too,Boquvist,Beaudin and Mitchell in rapid-fire succession was abysmal considering the better young D-men available in those draft classes and the Joker/NOlander trade was a laughable deal only a fool of a GM would make! |
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Post by tincup on Sept 5, 2024 9:35:09 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Sept 5, 2024 12:07:50 GMT -6
Interesting to see former Wings pick Mathurin in the lineup. Lost a full year to injury so Detroit didn’t sign him. Pure defender with great leadership qualities. He’s signed as an overager with the Spitfires so maybe BigT will see him some.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 5, 2024 13:39:46 GMT -6
Interesting to see former Wings pick Mathurin in the lineup. Lost a full year to injury so Detroit didn’t sign him. Pure defender with great leadership qualities. He’s signed as an overager with the Spitfires so maybe BigT will see him some. I mentioned Mathurin on page 157, him and Kennedy played together for North Bay and they're big stay at home dmen, lefty and righty. They're the 3rd pair at the Kurvers showcase. |
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Post by tincup on Sept 5, 2024 17:53:15 GMT -6
Interesting to see former Wings pick Mathurin in the lineup. Lost a full year to injury so Detroit didn’t sign him. Pure defender with great leadership qualities. He’s signed as an overager with the Spitfires so maybe BigT will see him some. I mentioned Mathurin on page 157, him and Kennedy played together for North Bay and they're big stay at home dmen, lefty and righty. They're the 3rd pair at the Kurvers showcase. Two pages ago? I must have been mowing the lawn.  Tough to get one by you. |
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Post by vadarx on Sept 6, 2024 8:18:56 GMT -6
Pronman with a q&a and someone asked the same question we all did about his rankings:
Last year, you ranked Frank Nazar a “middle-of-the-lineup player” and No. 5 on the Chicago Blackhawks’ list despite a rough freshman year because of “his history.” You suggested he could have a nice comeback year and merit that ranking. This year, he’s not a “middle-of-the-lineup player” and dropped to No. 14. What about his sophomore year told you that he not only failed to live up to his history but also declined? — Ted M.
He’s a tough evaluation. I basically gave him a mulligan for his freshman year because of his health. I love his skating and compete, but my questions are about whether he’s going to have good or very good offense as a pro. One thing I debated this year was comparing him to Gavin Brindley, who was a teammate of his at Michigan and the world juniors. I’m not convinced Brindley will be a massive NHL scorer, probably a middle-six wing, but he outscored/outplayed Nazar in school and at the world juniors. I haven’t seen as much skill/playmaking in college as I did when he was in junior. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s concerning for me at that size.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Sept 6, 2024 8:49:22 GMT -6
Like someone who steps up an explains himself
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 6, 2024 19:14:20 GMT -6
looks like there's some good leadership in the pipeline.
james joins ryan greene who's co-captain at boston university.
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Post by BigT on Sept 7, 2024 8:38:14 GMT -6
My thoughts on the Nazar front. Gavin Brindley was never a high end scorer until he played with Nazar. Look up his stats. Always under a point per game player. UNTIL…….. He played this past year with Nazar. He had 53 points in 40 games. He had 10 points in 7 games at the WJC playing with Nazar.
Nazar had 41 points in 41 games this year, basically his freshman year. He also had 8 points in 7 games at the WJC.
With Nazar's wheels and his higher hockey IQ and compete level, plus he’s got a bit of size over Brindley. I think comparing those two is not realistic. I feel Pronman is not a real hockey guy. He only watches important games and makes decisions off of that.
I have seen probably over 1000 OHL games in my time. Been going to games for 40+ years since I was a wee little lad. I know the game has changed over the years. But my point is, you can’t just be a fan of a sport and make a living off of commenting on a kids play or prognosticating them when you only watch a few games of them per year.
This is why I’m not knocking the Levshunov draft. I haven’t seen too much of him. Like I’ve said, I seen 3 games outta him. I wasn’t impressed. But the actual scouts seen more than their share and liked what they saw. Now, the people in the non Levshunov draft debate may end up being right. Actually, KD may be wrong on all his draft choices. We don’t know yet. But when enough people are saying the system is stocked. You gotta listen. Not just pundits. But people on well respected hockey shows are reporting this.
I just don’t think Pronman is any better than me or you. That’s my point. You just cannot say when a kid is drafted high, “Oh he’s gonna be good”. Then a year later, say they’re not that good. You’d have to admit you were wrong. And he’s not admitting that. I’ll be the first to admit that I’m wrong on Levshunov if he’s a top pair dman!!!
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Post by ebonyraptor on Sept 7, 2024 9:41:51 GMT -6
My thoughts on the Nazar front. Gavin Brindley was never a high end scorer until he played with Nazar. Look up his stats. Always under a point per game player. UNTIL…….. He played this past year with Nazar. He had 53 points in 40 games. He had 10 points in 7 games at the WJC playing with Nazar. Nazar had 41 points in 41 games this year, basically his freshman year. He also had 8 points in 7 games at the WJC. With Nazar's wheels and his higher hockey IQ and compete level, plus he’s got a bit of size over Brindley. I think comparing those two is not realistic. I feel Pronman is not a real hockey guy. He only watches important games and makes decisions off of that. I have seen probably over 1000 OHL games in my time. Been going to games for 40+ years since I was a wee little lad. I know the game has changed over the years. But my point is, you can’t just be a fan of a sport and make a living off of commenting on a kids play or prognosticating them when you only watch a few games of them per year. This is why I’m not knocking the Levshunov draft. I haven’t seen too much of him. Like I’ve said, I seen 3 games outta him. I wasn’t impressed. But the actual scouts seen more than their share and liked what they saw. Now, the people in the non Levshunov draft debate may end up being right. Actually, KD may be wrong on all his draft choices. We don’t know yet. But when enough people are saying the system is stocked. You gotta listen. Not just pundits. But people on well respected hockey shows are reporting this. I just don’t think Pronman is any better than me or you. That’s my point. You just cannot say when a kid is drafted high, “Oh he’s gonna be good”. Then a year later, say they’re not that good. You’d have to admit you were wrong. And he’s not admitting that. I’ll be the first to admit that I’m wrong on Levshunov if he’s a top pair dman!!! Always appreciate your 2 cents BigT - you tell it like you see it without rose colored glasses. |
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Post by tincup on Sept 8, 2024 15:00:40 GMT -6
He’s still got another year in Russia but I’d still like to see this big fella come over and have a swing at the fences. Hopefully he'll have a bounce back season.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 8, 2024 17:35:08 GMT -6
He’s still got another year in Russia but I’d still like to see this big fella come over and have a swing at the fences. Hopefully he'll have a bounce back season. Nice finish, hopefully they bring him over. Either he clicks in the NHL or plays a season in Rockford and goes back home, worth a look. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 10, 2024 19:43:31 GMT -6
Nice article about Levshunov and Bedard on the NHL site. They seemed to click at the draft and kept in touch over the summer.
He said he's been thinking about how he can help Bedard score more, and how Bedard will help him score too.
Sounds like he's eager to make the team out of camp and spent the summer training in North America. Said he's a pro now so he's training like one. With his solid frame I'm sure Goodman had him on a great program and he added more weight.
Gonna be fun watching these guys grow together.
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Post by tincup on Sept 11, 2024 9:27:09 GMT -6
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Post by irmaks on Sept 11, 2024 10:11:06 GMT -6
Yep Artyom Levshunov won’t be using the upcoming prospect showcase as a springboard into the Blackhawks’ NHL training camp as other top rookies have in the past. The Blackhawks announced Wednesday that Levshunov will miss the Tom Kurvers Prospect Showcase this weekend after suffering a recent right foot injury. The injury occurred when Levshunov was struck in the foot by a puck in a recent training session. Levshunov’s return timetable was not announced. Advertisement The Blackhawks selected Levshunov, an 18-year-old defenseman, with the second pick in the 2024 NHL Draft. He later decided to forego his remaining college eligibility after one season at Michigan State and signed a three-year entry-level contract with the Blackhawks. Levshunov was expected to play with other Blackhawks prospects in the Tom Kurver Prospect Showcase in St. Louis this weekend. The Blackhawks are playing the St. Louis Blues on Friday and Minnesota Wild on Saturday. The Blackhawks open their NHL training camp on Sept. 18. |
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Post by tincup on Sept 11, 2024 10:34:42 GMT -6
Beckett Sennecke also broke his foot, Cayden Lindstrom still has back issues, won’t make camp. Tough start for some of these latest picks.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Sept 11, 2024 17:18:07 GMT -6
Beckett Sennecke also broke his foot, Cayden Lindstrom still has back issues, won’t make camp. Tough start for some of these latest picks. Good thing they didnt skate at prospect camp. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 11, 2024 20:49:07 GMT -6
some dribs and drabs from prospect camp.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Sept 11, 2024 23:49:02 GMT -6
There is a definite quality KD has drafted in most of the picks he's made in the past 3 drafts - in a word: SPEED. Whether or not that translates to a successful rebuild and winning hockey is yet to be seen - but the Hawks have a prospect pipeline of speed merchants.
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 12, 2024 4:12:21 GMT -6
Not shocked but nice to read just the same.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Sept 12, 2024 6:15:36 GMT -6
Not shocked but nice to read just the same. And ... he won't see all of the top prospects because some are going to college or playing overseas: Moore/Rinzel/Boisvert/Kantserov/Greene/Gajan/Mustard. |
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Post by malagahawks on Sept 12, 2024 13:35:55 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 12, 2024 13:55:42 GMT -6
some dribs and drabs from prospect camp. Only 4 players on that roster didn't play in the CHL, Nazar, Slaggert, Rolston, and Commesso. Levshunov would've been 5 but he's out. All 7 D played in the CHL and Allan is the "smallest guy". Good protection for the goalies. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 12, 2024 21:07:09 GMT -6
bits n' bobs... another commesso quote copied from a tweet. Blackhawks goalie prospect Drew Commesso on what he learned from training with Jeremy Swayman in Boston all summer: "The biggest thing skating with him is his compete level and how he tracks pucks and just how focused he is, even in a summer skate. We had multiple skates at Boston College at 6:45 a.m., that's a time where guys are a little groggy, and just seeing him at the other end, competing as hard as he could, pushed me. I know if I can keep my compete level up with one of the best goalies in the NHL, it not only will make me better in the short term but the long term. It was great to spend a lot of time on the ice with him."quotes below from sorenson about colton's game. i won't say i worry about dach as a player, but tbh i'm not all that hyped about him like some of the other guys. he does exude a lot of confidence in the article. i hope he pans out, one thing lacking on this team is a young, larger power forward. "His biggest thing is figuring out what he’s going to be in the NHL," Sorensen said when asked how Dach can take the next step. "In juniors and even sometimes last year, he may have gotten away with some stuff that may not translate to the NHL for him. I think he’s aware of it. It’s just a matter of doing it consistently on the ice — consistent being the key word. If he does that, he has the attributes to be a really effective player at that level as well."
What type of player is that?
"Being good on the end wall, back well, win a lot of pucks, get to the net," Sorensen said. "He plays his best when he plays with emotion, but not emotional. He needs to bring that emotion every day and find a way to get going every game and shift and period but don’t teeter over to where you get emotional and that leaks into his game."
www.nbcsportschicago.com/nhl/chicago-blackhawks/blackhawks-prospect-colton-dach-motivated-to-prove-hes-nhl-ready/593225/ |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 12, 2024 22:25:51 GMT -6
bits n' bobs... another commesso quote copied from a tweet. Blackhawks goalie prospect Drew Commesso on what he learned from training with Jeremy Swayman in Boston all summer: "The biggest thing skating with him is his compete level and how he tracks pucks and just how focused he is, even in a summer skate. We had multiple skates at Boston College at 6:45 a.m., that's a time where guys are a little groggy, and just seeing him at the other end, competing as hard as he could, pushed me. I know if I can keep my compete level up with one of the best goalies in the NHL, it not only will make me better in the short term but the long term. It was great to spend a lot of time on the ice with him."quotes below from sorenson about colton's game. i won't say i worry about dach as a player, but tbh i'm not all that hyped about him like some of the other guys. he does exude a lot of confidence in the article. i hope he pans out, one thing lacking on this team is a young, larger power forward. "His biggest thing is figuring out what he’s going to be in the NHL," Sorensen said when asked how Dach can take the next step. "In juniors and even sometimes last year, he may have gotten away with some stuff that may not translate to the NHL for him. I think he’s aware of it. It’s just a matter of doing it consistently on the ice — consistent being the key word. If he does that, he has the attributes to be a really effective player at that level as well."
What type of player is that?
"Being good on the end wall, back well, win a lot of pucks, get to the net," Sorensen said. "He plays his best when he plays with emotion, but not emotional. He needs to bring that emotion every day and find a way to get going every game and shift and period but don’t teeter over to where you get emotional and that leaks into his game."
www.nbcsportschicago.com/nhl/chicago-blackhawks/blackhawks-prospect-colton-dach-motivated-to-prove-hes-nhl-ready/593225/That's great to hear about Drew, he's a very level headed young man and being able to learn from Swayman will help him be ready when he gets the call. And it sounds like a Dach thing when their emotions are an issue, and injuries. To be fair, it was his first year pro against grown men, we'll see how his second goes. |
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Tough to get one by you. 
