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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 3, 2022 10:39:52 GMT -6
I like that list and with Luke’s focus on defense they will hopefully get some good coaching in the next couple of years. They all played on the top4 for their teams last season, most were the top dmen and had a letter. I'd hate to be a forward if Crevier, Vlasic or Harding are paired together. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 3, 2022 12:23:56 GMT -6
My only issue is that I don’t see no top end guys. Every team to win the Cup in the modern era all had that stud dman, sometimes 2. The Hawks just don’t possess that. They will need to draft that dman.
I think all the filler the Hawks have is easy to find. It’s the 1,2 and sometimes 3rd dmen are the hard ones to find. And how Murphy is slotted much higher due to being on a bad team. Murphy’s are easy to find. Makar, Letang, Keith, Seabs, Josi, Fox etc. we need to find one of those guys. Bad.
So for me it’s hard to get excited for the group that’s there now. I personally many make it. If we get 2 NHL regulars out of the bunch. Sweet. But I don’t see much more than that. And no high end guys to boot. I believe that’s what KD was talking about at his presser when he first became GM!!!
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Post by steamer on Jul 3, 2022 12:31:15 GMT -6
Josi a 38th pick and Fox 66th. So 2 more examples of #1 D-men not being a top first rounder.
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Post by BigT on Jul 3, 2022 12:41:46 GMT -6
Josi a 38th pick and Fox 66th. So 2 more examples of #1 D-men not being a top first rounder. Absolutely it could happen. No doubt. But at least with guys like Keith, Josi or even Fox. They’ve given you reasons to believe. Where as the Hawks current collection doesn’t possess that. Maybe one will surprise you. But the last guy was really only good at failure. And I’d have to believe most will be moved out so that KD can put his stamp on the team!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 3, 2022 12:49:15 GMT -6
My only issue is that I don’t see no top end guys. Every team to win the Cup in the modern era all had that stud dman, sometimes 2. The Hawks just don’t possess that. They will need to draft that dman. I think all the filler the Hawks have is easy to find. It’s the 1,2 and sometimes 3rd dmen are the hard ones to find. And how Murphy is slotted much higher due to being on a bad team. Murphy’s are easy to find. Makar, Letang, Keith, Seabs, Josi, Fox etc. we need to find one of those guys. Bad. So for me it’s hard to get excited for the group that’s there now. I personally many make it. If we get 2 NHL regulars out of the bunch. Sweet. But I don’t see much more than that. And no high end guys to boot. I believe that’s what KD was talking about at his presser when he first became GM!!! That's why I said top4 guys and I mentioned in another thread I'd rather have 6 top4 dmen than one top2 and what the Hawks had last season. Vlasic and Regula have already showed they look NHL ready and both played on the top4, not hard with de Haan and Gus on the team, but they didn't look out of place. Allan had a breakout season and had NHL size, skating, and defensive awareness when drafted. Now he added some offense and showed better puck control. Del Mastro could've been a 2nd round pick if it wasn't for the Covid lockout. He had a great season as the captain of the Steelheads. Might be paired with Allan for Canada at the World Juniors. Maybe we'll have some beers and watch them live. And how could you not get excited over the 7th rounder Crevier? He made huge strides in his game since being drafted and he's a 6'8" right handed dman. Not to mention 6'7" Harding who was a 3rd rounder, check out some of his highlights, he's a big skilled tough dman. I think 3 or more will be regulars and if they get Clarke and maybe another high end prospect to go with Seth, the D core could be a big solid group. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 3, 2022 15:25:27 GMT -6
Josi a 38th pick and Fox 66th. So 2 more examples of #1 D-men not being a top first rounder. Absolutely it could happen. No doubt. But at least with guys like Keith, Josi or even Fox. They’ve given you reasons to believe. Where as the Hawks current collection doesn’t possess that. Maybe one will surprise you. But the last guy was really only good at failure. And I’d have to believe most will be moved out so that KD can put his stamp on the team!!! That'd be spiteful if KD moved them just to put his stamp on the team, developing them properly would be a better stamp. Only move the ones that aren't developing or don't fit the style they're going for. And Keith looked like a water beetle when he was drafted, small and moving fast, but his D was pretty bad. Seabs really helped him play a complete game, another guy who wasn't a high pick but turned into a legend. All the dmen I mentioned made progress this season and I'm sure most will keep progressing, who knows, one might turn into a top2 dman. |
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Post by Tater on Jul 4, 2022 2:01:22 GMT -6
That's why I said top4 guys and I mentioned in another thread I'd rather have 6 top4 dmen than one top2 and what the Hawks had last season. Vlasic and Regula have already showed they look NHL ready and both played on the top4, not hard with de Haan and Gus on the team, but they didn't look out of place. Allan had a breakout season and had NHL size, skating, and defensive awareness when drafted. Now he added some offense and showed better puck control. Del Mastro could've been a 2nd round pick if it wasn't for the Covid lockout. He had a great season as the captain of the Steelheads. Might be paired with Allan for Canada at the World Juniors. Maybe we'll have some beers and watch them live. And how could you not get excited over the 7th rounder Crevier? He made huge strides in his game since being drafted and he's a 6'8" right handed dman. Not to mention 6'7" Harding who was a 3rd rounder, check out some of his highlights, he's a big skilled tough dman. I think 3 or more will be regulars and if they get Clarke and maybe another high end prospect to go with Seth, the D core could be a big solid group.
I love the optimism in your posts. Keep it up! It's been a depressing last several years seeing Stan butcher up the org.
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Post by nighbor on Jul 4, 2022 13:12:52 GMT -6
That's why I said top4 guys and I mentioned in another thread I'd rather have 6 top4 dmen than one top2 and what the Hawks had last season. Vlasic and Regula have already showed they look NHL ready and both played on the top4, not hard with de Haan and Gus on the team, but they didn't look out of place. Allan had a breakout season and had NHL size, skating, and defensive awareness when drafted. Now he added some offense and showed better puck control. Del Mastro could've been a 2nd round pick if it wasn't for the Covid lockout. He had a great season as the captain of the Steelheads. Might be paired with Allan for Canada at the World Juniors. Maybe we'll have some beers and watch them live. And how could you not get excited over the 7th rounder Crevier? He made huge strides in his game since being drafted and he's a 6'8" right handed dman. Not to mention 6'7" Harding who was a 3rd rounder, check out some of his highlights, he's a big skilled tough dman. I think 3 or more will be regulars and if they get Clarke and maybe another high end prospect to go with Seth, the D core could be a big solid group.
I love the optimism in your posts. Keep it up! It's been a depressing last several years seeing Stan butcher up the org.
I thought this was a future d-corp thread not a Stan Bowman one. Personally I have high hopes for our young d-men. Like the old E.F. Hutton commercials when Luke speaks everyone will listen. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 5, 2022 13:06:59 GMT -6
I’m gonna join in with OTH our D prospects looked good at the levels they were at last year key is can they be developed at Rockford hawks have not done a good job of this lately but hut hopefully times will change. I Am a big Regula fan but he could use some more seasoning needs to work on his crossover and reading the rush better. If Rockford can start to address the deficiencies of each dman more and put them in situations to work on them that would be very helpful. Rockford has to be the place they work on things and then when they finally get up they need to put them in the best position to succeed things have not been done that way in a while , but I am excited about this group I know we have all been through the Gilbert and Johns stuff that never worked out hopefully more teaching will be done !
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 8, 2022 3:51:21 GMT -6
KD definitely made his stamp on the team and his first selection as GM he drafted a WHL defenseman.
Korchinski said his dad was a huge Blackhawks fan when he was a kid and loved Toews and his 2way game but he loved Kane and his flashiness. One of his coaches coached Shea Theodore and he said he wants to be a complete player like him. He's a smart level headed kid with a bright future.
Kor had 4g-61a as a 17yr old rookie in the WHL, he lead the league with points by a dman in the playoffs with 6g-13a. Very impressive rookie season.
Then they draft a big right handed dman in Rinzel. Another guy who turned 18 right before the draft and he's known for his skating. I like how he named Makar, Klingberg, and Parayko as dmen he likes to model his game after.
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Post by jaty84 on Jul 8, 2022 4:56:27 GMT -6
KD definitely made his stamp on the team and his first selection as GM he drafted a WHL defenseman. Korchinski said his dad was a huge Blackhawks fan when he was a kid and loved Toews and his 2way game but he loved Kane and his flashiness. One of his coaches coached Shea Theodore and he said he wants to be a complete player like him. He's a smart level headed kid with a bright future. Kor had 4g-61a as a 17yr old rookie in the WHL, he lead the league with points by a dman in the playoffs with 6g-13a. Very impressive rookie season. Then they draft a big right handed dman in Rinzel. Another guy who turned 18 right before the draft and he's known for his skating. I like how he named Makar, Klingberg, and Parayko as dmen he likes to model his game after. Not trying to be negative or whatsoever, just failing to imagine how Rinzel is going to model his game after Makar and Parayko. To me, those are completely different types of players. In any case, should he get close to any of those two players, he would be a huge player for the Hawks. Anyhow, looking forward to rounds 2-7. 4 hours to go... |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 8, 2022 5:10:24 GMT -6
KD definitely made his stamp on the team and his first selection as GM he drafted a WHL defenseman. Korchinski said his dad was a huge Blackhawks fan when he was a kid and loved Toews and his 2way game but he loved Kane and his flashiness. One of his coaches coached Shea Theodore and he said he wants to be a complete player like him. He's a smart level headed kid with a bright future. Kor had 4g-61a as a 17yr old rookie in the WHL, he lead the league with points by a dman in the playoffs with 6g-13a. Very impressive rookie season. Then they draft a big right handed dman in Rinzel. Another guy who turned 18 right before the draft and he's known for his skating. I like how he named Makar, Klingberg, and Parayko as dmen he likes to model his game after. Not trying to be negative or whatsoever, just failing to imagine how Rinzel is going to model his game after Makar and Parayko. To me, those are completely different types of players. In any case, should he get close to any of those two players, he would be a huge player for the Hawks. Anyhow, looking forward to rounds 2-7. 4 hours to go... Probably because he's 6'4" and skates really well, good puck control and shot, plus he loves to hit and play strong defensively. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 8, 2022 7:07:59 GMT -6
Not trying to be negative or whatsoever, just failing to imagine how Rinzel is going to model his game after Makar and Parayko. To me, those are completely different types of players. In any case, should he get close to any of those two players, he would be a huge player for the Hawks. Anyhow, looking forward to rounds 2-7. 4 hours to go... Probably because he's 6'4" and skates really well, good puck control and shot, plus he loves to hit and play strong defensively. Now the onus is on KD and Richarson to *properly* develop them. No need to rush them. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 8, 2022 7:15:30 GMT -6
Ok. Now I’ll say that I have a bit more faith in the future D core. The cupboards to me were super empty. I’m not sure I see the true #1 guy yet. So hopefully someone develops into that role. There’s at least more options and assets now.
I’m like most. I was hoping for more on some of the trades. However I like that there’s many many more assets. Hawks have a lot more picks today. And I’m sure they may add more. If the Hawks get at least one more first rounder next year. That’ll be 6 in two years. Like we’re talking they want this rebuild to go quickly. If no one is rushed, it’ll go quicker. The last 3-4 first rounders the Hawks have had really didn’t pan out. It’s sad when they feel like they have to trade a former 3rd overall for a 13th overall. I’m sure Dach was looking at getting at least 4 million. And I agree they just couldn’t pay that!!!
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Post by steamer on Jul 8, 2022 7:43:58 GMT -6
Ok. Now I’ll say that I have a bit more faith in the future D core. The cupboards to me were super empty. I’m not sure I see the true #1 guy yet. So hopefully someone develops into that role. There’s at least more options and assets now. I’m like most. I was hoping for more on some of the trades. However I like that there’s many many more assets. Hawks have a lot more picks today. And I’m sure they may add more. If the Hawks get at least one more first rounder next year. That’ll be 6 in two years. Like we’re talking they want this rebuild to go quickly. If no one is rushed, it’ll go quicker. The last 3-4 first rounders the Hawks have had really didn’t pan out. It’s sad when they feel like they have to trade a former 3rd overall for a 13th overall. I’m sure Dach was looking at getting at least 4 million. And I agree they just couldn’t pay that!!! I feel the same way. The D-cat trade still leaves a bad taste but the new course is underway and there ain't much we can do about it. It will be interesting to see what they do today and also what 19 and 88 decide to do. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 8, 2022 8:13:32 GMT -6
Ok. Now I’ll say that I have a bit more faith in the future D core. The cupboards to me were super empty. I’m not sure I see the true #1 guy yet. So hopefully someone develops into that role. There’s at least more options and assets now. I’m like most. I was hoping for more on some of the trades. However I like that there’s many many more assets. Hawks have a lot more picks today. And I’m sure they may add more. If the Hawks get at least one more first rounder next year. That’ll be 6 in two years. Like we’re talking they want this rebuild to go quickly. If no one is rushed, it’ll go quicker. The last 3-4 first rounders the Hawks have had really didn’t pan out. It’s sad when they feel like they have to trade a former 3rd overall for a 13th overall. I’m sure Dach was looking at getting at least 4 million. And I agree they just couldn’t pay that!!! I feel the same way. The D-cat trade still leaves a bad taste but the new course is underway and there ain't much we can do about it. It will be interesting to see what they do today and also what 19 and 88 decide to do. One thing to keep in mind. Let’s say Dcat stayed. How do you go into next year with that? How’s that a rebuild? I think many, or most Hawks fans expected more of a retool. Maybe better than what the last guy did. It’s clear as day that they’re blowing this up. Or the old adage “in order to create, you must destroy”. Entropy if you will. It’s either total chaos or a total balance. I think I made it clear this is what I expected. I fully believe 19/88 will know their limitations and leave. It’s not that I want them gone. At all. But that’s the old guard and it’s not fair to them to be on a team that has no care to win. The Hawks will be door mats the next two seasons. They’ll load up on picks and I believe they’ll get some luck along the way. Someone can correct me here. But I believe the last place team, the worst they can fall to is 3rd overall? So if the Hawks finish last, like we all expect. They’ll get a 1st, 2nd or 3rd. And next year that’s a good thing. The top 3 are impressive. Bedard, Mishkov and Fantilli are all slated to be franchise altering players. So the Hawks will be ok. Getting rid of Dcat was a necessary evil. One last thing I’ll say is this. KD hasn’t lied. He said he was going to rebuild. He is. He told the media and fans what his intentions are. He’s done what he’s said. The last guy lied and switched his intentions every spring it seemed!!! |
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Post by Nikos on Jul 8, 2022 8:45:36 GMT -6
I feel the same way. The D-cat trade still leaves a bad taste but the new course is underway and there ain't much we can do about it. It will be interesting to see what they do today and also what 19 and 88 decide to do. One thing to keep in mind. Let’s say Dcat stayed. How do you go into next year with that? How’s that a rebuild? I think many, or most Hawks fans expected more of a retool. Maybe better than what the last guy did. It’s clear as day that they’re blowing this up. Or the old adage “in order to create, you must destroy”. Entropy if you will. It’s either total chaos or a total balance. I think I made it clear this is what I expected. I fully believe 19/88 will know their limitations and leave. It’s not that I want them gone. At all. But that’s the old guard and it’s not fair to them to be on a team that has no care to win. The Hawks will be door mats the next two seasons. They’ll load up on picks and I believe they’ll get some luck along the way. Someone can correct me here. But I believe the last place team, the worst they can fall to is 3rd overall? So if the Hawks finish last, like we all expect. They’ll get a 1st, 2nd or 3rd. And next year that’s a good thing. The top 3 are impressive. Bedard, Mishkov and Fantilli are all slated to be franchise altering players. So the Hawks will be ok. Getting rid of Dcat was a necessary evil. One last thing I’ll say is this. KD hasn’t lied. He said he was going to rebuild. He is. He told the media and fans what his intentions are. He’s done what he’s said. The last guy lied and switched his intentions every spring it seemed!!! Yes, honesty is nice and appreciated. Let see how he and his team do as a talent evaluator and developing players. Like you said they will have a lot of picks in the next few years, need to hit much better than the previous guy and be patient. |
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Post by steamer on Jul 8, 2022 8:47:41 GMT -6
One thing to keep in mind. Let’s say Dcat stayed. How do you go into next year with that? How’s that a rebuild? I think many, or most Hawks fans expected more of a retool. Maybe better than what the last guy did. It’s clear as day that they’re blowing this up. Or the old adage “in order to create, you must destroy”. Entropy if you will. It’s either total chaos or a total balance. I think I made it clear this is what I expected. I fully believe 19/88 will know their limitations and leave. It’s not that I want them gone. At all. But that’s the old guard and it’s not fair to them to be on a team that has no care to win. The Hawks will be door mats the next two seasons. They’ll load up on picks and I believe they’ll get some luck along the way. Someone can correct me here. But I believe the last place team, the worst they can fall to is 3rd overall? So if the Hawks finish last, like we all expect. They’ll get a 1st, 2nd or 3rd. And next year that’s a good thing. The top 3 are impressive. Bedard, Mishkov and Fantilli are all slated to be franchise altering players. So the Hawks will be ok. Getting rid of Dcat was a necessary evil. One last thing I’ll say is this. KD hasn’t lied. He said he was going to rebuild. He is. He told the media and fans what his intentions are. He’s done what he’s said. The last guy lied and switched his intentions every spring it seemed!!! Yes, honesty is nice and appreciated. Let see how he and his team do as a talent evaluator and developing players. Like you said they will have a lot of picks in the next few years, need to hit much better than the previous guy and be patient. Being patient is the hard part!! |
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Post by Nikos on Jul 8, 2022 8:52:54 GMT -6
Yes, honesty is nice and appreciated. Let see how he and his team do as a talent evaluator and developing players. Like you said they will have a lot of picks in the next few years, need to hit much better than the previous guy and be patient. Being patient is the hard part!! Sure, but they have time on their side and expectations are going to be low. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 8, 2022 8:57:51 GMT -6
Yes, honesty is nice and appreciated. Let see how he and his team do as a talent evaluator and developing players. Like you said they will have a lot of picks in the next few years, need to hit much better than the previous guy and be patient. Being patient is the hard part!! It's the early-mid 2000's all over again. It helps if you can develop a trainwreck fascination with bottom-barrel hockey. Eventually, the dividends should pay out. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 8, 2022 9:10:28 GMT -6
Ok. Now I’ll say that I have a bit more faith in the future D core. The cupboards to me were super empty. I’m not sure I see the true #1 guy yet. So hopefully someone develops into that role. There’s at least more options and assets now. I’m like most. I was hoping for more on some of the trades. However I like that there’s many many more assets. Hawks have a lot more picks today. And I’m sure they may add more. If the Hawks get at least one more first rounder next year. That’ll be 6 in two years. Like we’re talking they want this rebuild to go quickly. If no one is rushed, it’ll go quicker. The last 3-4 first rounders the Hawks have had really didn’t pan out. It’s sad when they feel like they have to trade a former 3rd overall for a 13th overall. I’m sure Dach was looking at getting at least 4 million. And I agree they just couldn’t pay that!!! I feel the same way. The D-cat trade still leaves a bad taste but the new course is underway and there ain't much we can do about it. It will be interesting to see what they do today and also what 19 and 88 decide to do. Moving both shortly after moving their 24yro all-star is playing with fire BIG TIME. The D-Cat trade went over like a fart in church in Chicago and it's Chicagoans who pay the fucking freight......make no mistake. How many STH's play GM on a MB and plan on following 18yro's in far away minor leagues the next 3-4 years? Lecture these 'less knowledgeable' STH's about all the future superstars now on the way and they'll tell ya they head that tune before.......many.....many times. Tell em the same (I knew nothing) family that brought us DUMBASS and HARRY POTTER did so much better this time around and let's see what they think of that. It's real hard to find hockey talk with Chicago Hawk fans as it is after so many bad years,a half dozen more could easily see a half empty building and total irrelevance in Chicago but it was the family who let DUMBASS cause this so let em stew! |
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Post by BigT on Jul 8, 2022 9:38:03 GMT -6
Zawaski had the results of the Hawks survey. I’m not sure how many were involved. But I believe it to be thousands. The results were heavily in favour of a total tear down and rebuild. It was something like 72%.
I know it’s gonna suck. But the Hawks weren’t winning in the next two years. Might as well have something to show for it at the end of the year.
I’m happy that there’s a plan and some honesty. What did anyone think a rebuild would be? It’s painful for a while, but there’s really no other way to go. The Hawks are starting over. I for one feel like it’s a breath of fresh air. I was horribly tired and embarrassed of watching the last regime fail. I found that to be non entertaining to me. I seriously got board of watching 2-3 decent players and the rest suck or have down years. Winning is much more fun!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 8, 2022 9:51:18 GMT -6
Zawaski had the results of the Hawks survey. I’m not sure how many were involved. But I believe it to be thousands. The results were heavily in favour of a total tear down and rebuild. It was something like 72%. I know it’s gonna suck. But the Hawks weren’t winning in the next two years. Might as well have something to show for it at the end of the year. I’m happy that there’s a plan and some honesty. What did anyone think a rebuild would be? It’s painful for a while, but there’s really no other way to go. The Hawks are starting over. I for one feel like it’s a breath of fresh air. I was horribly tired and embarrassed of watching the last regime fail. I found that to be non entertaining to me. I seriously got board of watching 2-3 decent players and the rest suck or have down years. Winning is much more fun!!! They thought a rebuild is keep all their favorite players, dump the ones they don't like and replace with superstars. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 8, 2022 10:21:28 GMT -6
Zawaski had the results of the Hawks survey. I’m not sure how many were involved. But I believe it to be thousands. The results were heavily in favour of a total tear down and rebuild. It was something like 72%. I know it’s gonna suck. But the Hawks weren’t winning in the next two years. Might as well have something to show for it at the end of the year. I’m happy that there’s a plan and some honesty. What did anyone think a rebuild would be? It’s painful for a while, but there’s really no other way to go. The Hawks are starting over. I for one feel like it’s a breath of fresh air. I was horribly tired and embarrassed of watching the last regime fail. I found that to be non entertaining to me. I seriously got board of watching 2-3 decent players and the rest suck or have down years. Winning is much more fun!!! Is that a poll I can see somewhere too? Sure fans are tired of failure and want a fresh start and most see the necessity of a rebuild but if you think the average STH is gonna spend the next 4-5 years following teenagers in far away minor leagues like you do.....you're kidding yourself. They will NOT keep shelling out money to watch a last place team with just the promise of superstars to come........they've heard these promises before. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 8, 2022 10:44:39 GMT -6
Probably because he's 6'4" and skates really well, good puck control and shot, plus he loves to hit and play strong defensively. Now the onus is on KD and Richarson to *properly* develop them. No need to rush them. KD said as much in his post first round comments. he knows they have to properly develop these guys now, apparently. hopefully it isn't just talk... |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 8, 2022 10:51:34 GMT -6
Zawaski had the results of the Hawks survey. I’m not sure how many were involved. But I believe it to be thousands. The results were heavily in favour of a total tear down and rebuild. It was something like 72%. I know it’s gonna suck. But the Hawks weren’t winning in the next two years. Might as well have something to show for it at the end of the year. I’m happy that there’s a plan and some honesty. What did anyone think a rebuild would be? It’s painful for a while, but there’s really no other way to go. The Hawks are starting over. I for one feel like it’s a breath of fresh air. I was horribly tired and embarrassed of watching the last regime fail. I found that to be non entertaining to me. I seriously got board of watching 2-3 decent players and the rest suck or have down years. Winning is much more fun!!! Is that a poll I can see somewhere too? Sure fans are tired of failure and want a fresh start and most see the necessity of a rebuild but if you think the average STH is gonna spend the next 4-5 years following teenagers in far away minor leagues like you do.....you're kidding yourself. They will NOT keep shelling out money to watch a last place team with just the promise of superstars to come........they've heard these promises before. that's why they aren't asking (telling) a couple old timers to leave. if they stay, it'll help with tickets sales. I was wrong about Debrincat being moved, but I will still be shocked if Kane is... |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 8, 2022 10:55:48 GMT -6
looks to me like the folks in charge saw two things: a lack of a top pairing guy in the current prospect group and the likelihood of next year's selection (post tank) being a top forward. so, we got what we got.
two kicks at the can here, hoping one of the two (particularly the 7th OA) turns into that top d prospect/player.
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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 8, 2022 11:56:37 GMT -6
Now the onus is on KD and Richarson to *properly* develop them. No need to rush them. KD said as much in his post first round comments. he knows they have to properly develop these guys now, apparently. hopefully it isn't just talk... While I believe that KD is genuine in saying that, talk is cheap. He has to REALLY do it. He can't cave to the pressure to rush any of them, and there will be pressure: from the Beancounters and from the bandwagonner fans. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 8, 2022 12:32:24 GMT -6
looks to me like the folks in charge saw two things: a lack of a top pairing guy in the current prospect group and the likelihood of next year's selection (post tank) being a top forward. so, we got what we got. two kicks at the can here, hoping one of the two (particularly the 7th OA) turns into that top d prospect/player. With the amount of forwards taken after the 1st round it shows they're confident in the amount of D prospects in the system but yeah, none are projected to be a #2 dman but Kosinski and Rinzel have that potential, especially Kos. He just turned 18 and might grow more than 6'2", almost looked as tall as Luke. I like that he's from Saskatchewan, like last years first rounder, because they're usually tough kids. I've watched a lot of Kosinskis highlights and the kid looks like the real deal. It's impressive what he did as a 17yr old in the WHL and got better in the playoffs helping his team win the Western conference final. He's got a high IQ and has great skills. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 8, 2022 12:35:44 GMT -6
looks to me like the folks in charge saw two things: a lack of a top pairing guy in the current prospect group and the likelihood of next year's selection (post tank) being a top forward. so, we got what we got. two kicks at the can here, hoping one of the two (particularly the 7th OA) turns into that top d prospect/player. KD said he’s gonna have the talk with them. Let them know that this is a tank job and make sure they’re on board. He’d love to have them, but next year is the real shit show. If they get Bedard, who isn’t gonna wanna pay to see him? So one year of absolute shit, then the climb uphill starts to take effect. Remember. If they want out. Cool. That will fill the cupboards even more. Also, I like how they dominantly took centers with most of their picks. Something good will happen with all of that!!! |
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