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Post by vadarx on May 17, 2024 14:29:48 GMT -6
Some juicy headlines today; “Todd Mclellan had interviewed with the Devils and Jets” “Hurricanes not expected to re-sign Brett Pesce and Martin Necas (expected to re-sign Jake Guentzel)” “Maple leafs among teams monitoring Brindamour’s availability” “Predators have shown interest on Mitch Marner” I would be 100% on Necas. If he’s available for a song, I say get him. I see no reason not to. He’s 25 and I’d give him a 5 year 30+ million deal. He basically doubles his salary. He’s huge and plays tough minutes. A big right shot center is just what the team needs. This way one or both of Nazar and Moore can hit the wings. This is exactly what I want to see. Pesce is another guy I’d love to see in Chicago. He’s a right shot D that can put up 35-40 points. A great player to play along side KK. If they’re not signing either. I’d definitely inquire on them both before July 1 and hopefully make a trade to their rights. I’d even give Pesce a 5 year 25 million deal. He instantly makes the Hawks better and gives them time to develop some younger kids. Then in the 2025 draft the Hawks can target the best available rhd. And develop him. I think those are great moves if they can be done!!! yeah, I am allllll over Necas if we convince him to do a sign and trade. that being said, he is for sure a wing and not a center. one would think it wouldn't be too hard for KfC to convince at least one good free agent to come play on a line with 98...
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Post by galaxytrash on May 17, 2024 16:36:59 GMT -6
4 year deal.
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Post by Nikos on May 17, 2024 17:18:34 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on May 17, 2024 17:35:46 GMT -6
Matthews cries out, demands to be traded to Arizona (whom he has petitioned to receive their team back now that the home town boy has come to save the day). what do ya think Toronto takes for him? would they ever dare?
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Post by galaxytrash on May 17, 2024 17:39:23 GMT -6
Matthews cries out, demands to be traded to Arizona (whom he has petitioned to receive their team back now that the home town boy has come to save the day). what do ya think Toronto takes for him? would they ever dare? well...if guys like matthews, marner or nylander demand trades it will be apparent where the problem lied in toronto.
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Post by vadarx on May 17, 2024 17:47:33 GMT -6
Matthews cries out, demands to be traded to Arizona (whom he has petitioned to receive their team back now that the home town boy has come to save the day). what do ya think Toronto takes for him? would they ever dare? well...if guys like matthews, marner or nylander demand trades it will be apparent where the problem lied in toronto. I meant more that they probably need to trade one of them. what offer would it take for them to consider it?
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Post by bigbarn27 on May 17, 2024 18:21:52 GMT -6
Some juicy headlines today; “Todd Mclellan had interviewed with the Devils and Jets” “Hurricanes not expected to re-sign Brett Pesce and Martin Necas (expected to re-sign Jake Guentzel)” “Maple leafs among teams monitoring Brindamour’s availability” “Predators have shown interest on Mitch Marner” I would be 100% on Necas. If he’s available for a song, I say get him. I see no reason not to. He’s 25 and I’d give him a 5 year 30+ million deal. He basically doubles his salary. He’s huge and plays tough minutes. A big right shot center is just what the team needs. This way one or both of Nazar and Moore can hit the wings. This is exactly what I want to see. Pesce is another guy I’d love to see in Chicago. He’s a right shot D that can put up 35-40 points. A great player to play along side KK. If they’re not signing either. I’d definitely inquire on them both before July 1 and hopefully make a trade to their rights. I’d even give Pesce a 5 year 25 million deal. He instantly makes the Hawks better and gives them time to develop some younger kids. Then in the 2025 draft the Hawks can target the best available rhd. And develop him. I think those are great moves if they can be done!!! T you must have started drinking early Nacas is not gonna sign for 5 years at what he is making now. Canes are not giving him away for a song either
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Post by BigT on May 17, 2024 20:11:07 GMT -6
I would be 100% on Necas. If he’s available for a song, I say get him. I see no reason not to. He’s 25 and I’d give him a 5 year 30+ million deal. He basically doubles his salary. He’s huge and plays tough minutes. A big right shot center is just what the team needs. This way one or both of Nazar and Moore can hit the wings. This is exactly what I want to see. Pesce is another guy I’d love to see in Chicago. He’s a right shot D that can put up 35-40 points. A great player to play along side KK. If they’re not signing either. I’d definitely inquire on them both before July 1 and hopefully make a trade to their rights. I’d even give Pesce a 5 year 25 million deal. He instantly makes the Hawks better and gives them time to develop some younger kids. Then in the 2025 draft the Hawks can target the best available rhd. And develop him. I think those are great moves if they can be done!!! T you must have started drinking early Nacas is not gonna sign for 5 years at what he is making now. Canes are not giving him away for a song either Elliot Friedman said they’re not gonna sign him. So they’ll either let him go for nothing or trade him. He currently makes 3 million. www.capfriendly.com/players/martin-necasPesce will leave UFA. If the Hawks have to give up a later first round pick for Necas. Do it. He’s exactly what is needed. The Canes are up against the cap. And want to sign Guentzel. Friedman said Pesce wants something in the area of 5.5 for 5-6 years. He may even want 7 years. At 7 years, I don’t go that route. Go with Tanev. But regardless, Hawks need Necas. Even if he wants 7.5 million. Give it to him!!!
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Post by bigbarn27 on May 17, 2024 21:11:30 GMT -6
My bad T he is at 3. Still not gonna let him go for nothing we would not even trade lucas for a 3rd. If they dont get a first rounder they will keep him.
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Post by hsbob on May 18, 2024 9:14:43 GMT -6
well...if guys like matthews, marner or nylander demand trades it will be apparent where the problem lied in toronto. I meant more that they probably need to trade one of them. what offer would it take for them to consider it? I'm pretty sure it'll be Marner. Nobody's taking Tavares 11M w/o sweetening and he plays center, 'Migraine Willy' just signed a max deal,so he ain't going nowhere and he's a RW like Marner. That leaves Mathews,and he'd have to 'ask out' IMO. The guy does everything for that team all regular season long,scores,makes plays and wins draws,I wasn't sure what to make of his 'Selke' nomination this year,but defensive numbers were surprisingly good....to go along with 69 goals.
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Post by hsbob on May 18, 2024 9:22:50 GMT -6
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Post by squishy24 on May 18, 2024 10:33:58 GMT -6
Pinto is asking for 5m. I know its a negotiating tactic, but it seems like he wants out of Ottawa without deliberately asking for it. Ottawa wants him to stay and him being RFA with no arb power, this will drag on all offseason long just like last year. Hopefully no gambling scandal again lol
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Post by vadarx on May 18, 2024 13:42:47 GMT -6
I meant more that they probably need to trade one of them. what offer would it take for them to consider it? I'm pretty sure it'll be Marner. Nobody's taking Tavares 11M w/o sweetening and he plays center, 'Migraine Willy' just signed a max deal,so he ain't going nowhere and he's a RW like Marner. That leaves Mathews,and he'd have to 'ask out' IMO. The guy does everything for that team all regular season long,scores,makes plays and wins draws,I wasn't sure what to make of his 'Selke' nomination this year,but defensive numbers were surprisingly good....to go along with 69 goals. yeah, I agree it'll likely be Marner, but a guy can dream. I was just throwing out a hypothetical, I would hope Toronto isn't dumb enough to trade him (Matthews).
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Post by galaxytrash on May 18, 2024 20:02:55 GMT -6
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Post by BigT on May 19, 2024 9:10:18 GMT -6
Pinto is asking for 5m. I know its a negotiating tactic, but it seems like he wants out of Ottawa without deliberately asking for it. Ottawa wants him to stay and him being RFA with no arb power, this will drag on all offseason long just like last year. Hopefully no gambling scandal again lol I’d trade for him, and give him an 8 year 6 million per. Then I’d also trade for Necas. That would really really help the top 6. Both big guys that are really needed. Pinto at 6 million will be a bargain. Than Necas at 6.5 for 8 years will be another bargain. If KD can make that happen, this team is more than likely battling for a playoff. Plus add in a vet righty dman. And all is well!!!
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Post by hsbob on May 19, 2024 10:03:38 GMT -6
Pinto is asking for 5m. I know its a negotiating tactic, but it seems like he wants out of Ottawa without deliberately asking for it. Ottawa wants him to stay and him being RFA with no arb power, this will drag on all offseason long just like last year. Hopefully no gambling scandal again lol I’d trade for him, and give him an 8 year 6 million per. Then I’d also trade for Necas. That would really really help the top 6. Both big guys that are really needed. Pinto at 6 million will be a bargain. Than Necas at 6.5 for 8 years will be another bargain. If KD can make that happen, this team is more than likely battling for a playoff. Plus add in a vet righty dman. And all is well!!! The kid has a TON of potential but with his limited sample size and last summer's off-ice issue might not require more than 5-4 1/2M to wrap him up IMO. There's no way Ott can entertain ANY Pinto re-do w/o moving Norris' 6X7.95M first,Norris was shut-down for the 3rd time in 2 years with the same shoulder last year after playing only 58gms the last two years........what would that trade look like?
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Post by BigT on May 19, 2024 14:25:36 GMT -6
I’d trade for him, and give him an 8 year 6 million per. Then I’d also trade for Necas. That would really really help the top 6. Both big guys that are really needed. Pinto at 6 million will be a bargain. Than Necas at 6.5 for 8 years will be another bargain. If KD can make that happen, this team is more than likely battling for a playoff. Plus add in a vet righty dman. And all is well!!! The kid has a TON of potential but with his limited sample size and last summer's off-ice issue might not require more than 5-4 1/2M to wrap him up IMO. There's no way Ott can entertain ANY Pinto re-do w/o moving Norris' 6X7.95M first,Norris was shut-down for the 3rd time in 2 years with the same shoulder last year after playing only 58gms the last two years........what would that trade look like? I’m not sure what the market for him would look like. Gotta think teams come in low because of his issues you’ve brought up. However. I’ve seen enough draft picks. Time to get a roster of this will go on forever. Hawks have 3 extra picks in the first 2 rounds. Would all three of those be enough to get Pinto and Necas? So let’s say pick #34 for Pinto. And or picks 20 and 57 for Necas? Or some combo of that. Hawks still would have pick #2 and one of their 2nd rounders. Plus Pinto and Necas. That’s a very good draft day if you ask me. Maybe that happens maybe it doesn’t. However. The Hawks have an extra first rounder next year. Trade that to Ottawa for Pinto if needed. Ottawa has to give up a first rounder in the next 3 drafts due to that weird trade they made and got penalized. So the Hawks have the draft capital to make this work. Both teams can’t afford to take on salary!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on May 19, 2024 17:57:30 GMT -6
brind'amour's was a 5 year deal. that's a big vote of confidence.
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Post by T-man2010 on May 20, 2024 5:12:43 GMT -6
Does anyone else want to see a Matthews v. McDavid SCF? I think the league would want it for the publicity. Before their careers start to head downward.
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Post by Nikos on May 20, 2024 6:06:51 GMT -6
Does anyone else want to see a Matthews v. McDavid SCF? I think the league would want it for the publicity. Before their careers start to head downward. Grtetzky and Mario never played in one, sure the NHL would like to see it, maybe Bedard versus Matthews.
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Post by BigT on May 20, 2024 9:43:48 GMT -6
Does anyone else want to see a Matthews v. McDavid SCF? I think the league would want it for the publicity. Before their careers start to head downward. What always drives the league is when LA and NYR were in the finals. Or even Chicago/Boston/Philly etc. Any of the big markets will do. I think the league makes a lot of money with good teams in the big 3 US markets!!!
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Post by vadarx on May 20, 2024 13:13:46 GMT -6
Does anyone else want to see a Matthews v. McDavid SCF? I think the league would want it for the publicity. Before their careers start to head downward. What always drives the league is when LA and NYR were in the finals. Or even Chicago/Boston/Philly etc. Any of the big markets will do. I think the league makes a lot of money with good teams in the big 3 US markets!!! I think that applies more to the Original 6 teams. LA being good isn't a bad thing, but also doesn't draw the fans that the 6 do. Chicago, Boston, and Toronto especially seem to draw eyeballs.
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Post by BigT on May 20, 2024 13:23:30 GMT -6
What always drives the league is when LA and NYR were in the finals. Or even Chicago/Boston/Philly etc. Any of the big markets will do. I think the league makes a lot of money with good teams in the big 3 US markets!!! I think that applies more to the Original 6 teams. LA being good isn't a bad thing, but also doesn't draw the fans that the 6 do. Chicago, Boston, and Toronto especially seem to draw eyeballs. I was reading an article (I’ll try and find it) that talked about NHL teams and how much revenue they create. Believe it or not, the Oilers were tops at 189 million. The Leaves weren’t far behind at something like 185 million. The Hawks were 5th during a rebuilding time. So have to think when the Hawks are in the playoffs, they’re producing 200+ million!!! Edit: I was way off. But here’s one of the sites I seen. www.statista.com/statistics/193736/revenue-of-national-hockey-league-teams-in-2010/
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Post by vadarx on May 21, 2024 14:05:48 GMT -6
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Post by Nikos on May 21, 2024 15:14:31 GMT -6
The Bolts really missed Sergachev in the season and the playoffs. Sergachev I believe might have played one of the playoff games versus the Panthers, not 100% sure. I know McDonagh is getting older, but he still is one of those steady dmen who can still help you win games. It just goes back to you can never have enough good D men in your system/team.
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Post by vadarx on May 21, 2024 15:51:13 GMT -6
The Bolts really missed Sergachev in the season and the playoffs. Sergachev I believe might have played one of the playoff games versus the Panthers, not 100% sure. I know McDonagh is getting older, but he still is one of those steady dmen who can still help you win games. It just goes back to you can never have enough good D men in your system/team. tb now has no 1-3 round pick this draft, no first or second in 2025, and only 5.5 left in cap space (and their captain still needing to be signed)... and they're not a bunch of spring chickens. they'll be competitive the next few seasons, but unless they get an insane run by Vasilevskiy (probably coinciding with a lot of injury good luck), they probably won't be competing for a Cup.
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Post by Nikos on May 21, 2024 16:48:01 GMT -6
The Bolts really missed Sergachev in the season and the playoffs. Sergachev I believe might have played one of the playoff games versus the Panthers, not 100% sure. I know McDonagh is getting older, but he still is one of those steady dmen who can still help you win games. It just goes back to you can never have enough good D men in your system/team. tb now has no 1-3 round pick this draft, no first or second in 2025, and only 5.5 left in cap space (and their captain still needing to be signed)... and they're not a bunch of spring chickens. they'll be competitive the next few seasons, but unless they get an insane run by Vasilevskiy (probably coinciding with a lot of injury good luck), they probably won't be competing for a Cup. Yeah I get your point and it worth a debate IMO why now and why this type of move. Bolts GM says they have room to still sign Stamkos, who last time signed a team friendly deal. They still have a good core and yes, it is a year older and one of the top 3 goalies when healthy. Hedman, Sergachev, Cernak and now McDonagh that is a pretty solid top 4. Sounds they want to try and keep the core and have a strong D with an all-world goalie and hope the window is still open for 1-2 more years. Interesting that Preds not retaining salary. Do we believe Trotz saying it was made with no salary cap implications? It seems the Preds always have good D men in their system. I know they took Matthew Wood in 1st in 2023, but also got Tanner Molendyk, D with Saskatoon Blades at 24 overall an incredibly mobile defenseman who they are very high on, and Scott Wheeler has him rated #3 overall behind Askarov the goalie #1 and Matthew Wood #2 in their prospect rankings.
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Post by galaxytrash on May 22, 2024 17:16:20 GMT -6
he wouldn't be my first choice.
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Post by Nikos on May 22, 2024 17:36:20 GMT -6
he wouldn't be my first choice. Another coaching hire, another just let go coach hired. Still no Q hire.
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Post by galaxytrash on May 22, 2024 17:56:18 GMT -6
he wouldn't be my first choice. Another coaching hire, another just let go coach hired. Still no Q hire. a crazy year for nhl coaches for sure. l.a. named their interim coach the head coach today as well. first time nhl head coach. on the topic of nhl coaches... i thought knoblach from edmonton would've got a little more love. took over a 2nd last place team (3-9-1, .269%) and in the 69 game segment that followed was a league leading best. (46-18-5, .703%)
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