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Post by vadarx on Jul 25, 2024 15:45:17 GMT -6
The suns /phoenix built a new arena but for basketball only, like that shitty barclay center in brooklyn. That was why the Yotes had to move to gila arena. This was all under the original owner. The last guy had 1.7B from his group to invest in the complex but the neighboring town to phoenix said no. There’s gotta be more to it than what meets the eye. Why would a city on multiple occasions not approve an arena for professional sports teams? I think they could build the new arena, sell off the old arena/land. Or transfer with the city, and get some tax dollars to go with it. Deals like that go down all the time. I remember reading an article where Michael Wilbon said he disapproved the new arena deal. He didn’t give details. But he lives near there I guess and a lot of people were saying they didn’t want the 2-3 years of construction in their backyards. Maybe it was all the old owner? He did have a shitty reputation!!! I think them asking the public to contribute was a non-starter, for one thing. lotta people around them parts on fixed incomes. however, I do have to give a big LOL to the people saying that about construction down there. that shit is going on everywhere around those parts!
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Post by BigT on Jul 25, 2024 16:55:43 GMT -6
There’s gotta be more to it than what meets the eye. Why would a city on multiple occasions not approve an arena for professional sports teams? I think they could build the new arena, sell off the old arena/land. Or transfer with the city, and get some tax dollars to go with it. Deals like that go down all the time. I remember reading an article where Michael Wilbon said he disapproved the new arena deal. He didn’t give details. But he lives near there I guess and a lot of people were saying they didn’t want the 2-3 years of construction in their backyards. Maybe it was all the old owner? He did have a shitty reputation!!! I think them asking the public to contribute was a non-starter, for one thing. lotta people around them parts on fixed incomes. however, I do have to give a big LOL to the people saying that about construction down there. that shit is going on everywhere around those parts! Wilbon didn’t want it. He was vocal about it too. For such a sport talking head like him, I you’d really think he’d just not say anything? Hopefully some other team moves. I personally don’t want any more expansion. It’s really out of control. 32 teams is probably 6 too many teams. If they went to 34. That would be unhealthy I’d have to think!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jul 25, 2024 22:08:48 GMT -6
I think them asking the public to contribute was a non-starter, for one thing. lotta people around them parts on fixed incomes. however, I do have to give a big LOL to the people saying that about construction down there. that shit is going on everywhere around those parts! Wilbon didn’t want it. He was vocal about it too. For such a sport talking head like him, I you’d really think he’d just not say anything? Hopefully some other team moves. I personally don’t want any more expansion. It’s really out of control. 32 teams is probably 6 too many teams. If they went to 34. That would be unhealthy I’d have to think!!! o, I am with ya one that one. 30 was more than plenty. certainly seems like the goal is 36 at some point...
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Post by steamer on Jul 26, 2024 14:20:21 GMT -6
I agree that 36 teams is too many. Has the NHL given up on its global aspirations? Playing a few games in Europe each year should be enough. Most of the hockey playing nations have their own hockey leagues already.
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Post by BigT on Jul 28, 2024 11:15:18 GMT -6
Lazerus had a pretty fair write up about Scambo today in the Athletic. I think if you’re on a mobile device, you can read it. It was about his take on what Scambo did good, bad and ugly. He obviously made a few good moves. But for the most part, the scales tipped to lunacy. It’s not very long, but a decent read…… and warning to Oilers fans!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 29, 2024 1:39:25 GMT -6
the leaf's missing piece? i have my extreme doubts. it will be his 5th nhl organization in 6 seasons. scored 11 goals in 23 games last season and his 16:46 t.o.i was the best average of his career by almost 3 minutes but even then, the jackets had seen enough apparently. www.nhl.com/player/alex-nylander-8479423
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Post by Tater on Jul 29, 2024 2:37:21 GMT -6
I guess each team needs to see what a floater he is in person.
it will be his 5th nhl organization in 6 seasons.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 29, 2024 7:21:01 GMT -6
it's dead in here.
who'd you rather?
not fair to the 6'2" guys for some reason.
anyhoo...i'd take the shorties.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 29, 2024 10:55:41 GMT -6
it's dead in here. who'd you rather? not fair to the 6'2" guys for some reason. anyhoo...i'd take the shorties. Ha! Are there no 6’2s ? Or no good ones?
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Post by BigT on Jul 29, 2024 11:18:09 GMT -6
Draisaitl. Probably the best 6’2” player there is.
6’3” is on the rather taller side. So that 2” gap is quite huge. 6’1” is not small. A lot of guys on that list were 6’1”. I’d say 6’ and smaller and then 6’1” and taller. You’ll see the real difference in what size brings!!!
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 29, 2024 13:44:56 GMT -6
Brock Faber extended 8x8.5 by the Wild.
After one good rookie season. Id be wary. Hopefully he doesnt decline
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Post by vadarx on Jul 29, 2024 18:49:59 GMT -6
it's dead in here. who'd you rather? not fair to the 6'2" guys for some reason. anyhoo...i'd take the shorties. shorties
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 29, 2024 19:13:46 GMT -6
Brock Faber extended 8x8.5 by the Wild. After one good rookie season. Id be wary. Hopefully he doesnt decline pretty ballsy signing but might turn out to be a steal. time will tell. i think moves like this must be made these days. no guts, no glory. pretty sure the kings are kicking themselves for letting faber slip away.
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Post by Nikos on Jul 29, 2024 20:06:16 GMT -6
Brock Faber extended 8x8.5 by the Wild. After one good rookie season. Id be wary. Hopefully he doesnt decline pretty ballsy signing but might turn out to be a steal. time will tell. i think moves like this must be made these days. no guts, no glory. pretty sure the kings are kicking themselves for letting faber slip away. I will say it again Vlassic deal keeps getting better with signings like this. Sure Faber is a better offensively player, but Vlassic likely will be a shut down D playing against top players and penalty kill.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 29, 2024 20:24:17 GMT -6
Brock Faber extended 8x8.5 by the Wild. After one good rookie season. Id be wary. Hopefully he doesnt decline pretty ballsy signing but might turn out to be a steal. time will tell. i think moves like this must be made these days. no guts, no glory. pretty sure the kings are kicking themselves for letting faber slip away. Wild board is saying they did the same with Kaprizov and thats paying off. Maybe Guerin knows what hes doing, but cant do much because of the Parise/suter cap hits, one more season i think. As for LA, just IMO, if they dont get to the second round next playoffs, Blake and Robittaile (and probably others) will be gone
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 30, 2024 6:40:50 GMT -6
Brock Faber extended 8x8.5 by the Wild. After one good rookie season. Id be wary. Hopefully he doesnt decline many times on these boards and others i hear this player or that player would make a great coach/g.m. when in actual fact we really have no idea how they'd be at these jobs. just cause you're a great guy or a talented player who scores clutch goals it doesn't necessarily (imho) translate to a nice career in coaching or management. anyways, neither does a short video on twitter, but bill guerin in this video, well it just really seems to me that he's one of the ones that was a great player and as well as a successful general manager. if i was faber's mom or dad i'd say he was in good hands in minnesota. edit: and i like how guerin went to faber's dad first at the end when the hugs and handshakes were getting doled out.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 30, 2024 7:02:44 GMT -6
Brock Faber extended 8x8.5 by the Wild. After one good rookie season. Id be wary. Hopefully he doesnt decline many times on these boards and others i hear this player or that player would make a great coach/g.m. when in actual fact we really have no idea how they'd be at these jobs. just cause you're a great guy or a talented player who scores clutch goals it doesn't necessarily (imho) translate to a nice career in coaching or management. anyways, neither does a short video on twitter, but bill guerin in this video, well it just really seems to me that he's one of the ones that was a great player and as well as a successful general manager. if i was faber's mom or dad i'd say he was in good hands in minnesota. Billy seems like a great guy at first Tom Kurvers prospect games there was Billy sitting with the other fans at 5/3rd talking to everyone even opposing fans. While hawks brass was on there perch shit even press was roped off from fans.
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Post by guest on Jul 30, 2024 7:58:24 GMT -6
pretty ballsy signing but might turn out to be a steal. time will tell. i think moves like this must be made these days. no guts, no glory. pretty sure the kings are kicking themselves for letting faber slip away. Wild board is saying they did the same with Kaprizov and thats paying off. Maybe Guerin knows what hes doing, but cant do much because of the Parise/suter cap hits, one more season i think. As for LA, just IMO, if they dont get to the second round next playoffs, Blake and Robittaile (and probably others) will be gone The Parise/Suter cap hits runs thru the 2028/29 season, but drops significantly after the upcoming season. For 2024/25 year the cap hit for both was $7,371.795. From 2025/26 thru 2028/29 the amount will be $833,333 for both.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 31, 2024 7:25:19 GMT -6
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 1, 2024 7:10:50 GMT -6
From entry level to 6x5.5, is he that good? The habs board is saying hes a top2 just behind matheson, but injuries have derailed him. I just remember this guy because Bowman wanted him before reichel. (Or am i not remembering that correctly?) Higher contract than Vlasic, is Guhle better?
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Post by Nikos on Aug 1, 2024 7:23:23 GMT -6
From entry level to 6x5.5, is he that good? The habs board is saying hes a top2 just behind matheson, but injuries have derailed him. I just remember this guy because Bowman wanted him before reichel. (Or am i not remembering that correctly?) Higher contract than Vlasic, is Guhle better? Hard to say he is better, glad we got Vlasic for about $1M less.
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Post by nighbor on Aug 1, 2024 8:13:59 GMT -6
From entry level to 6x5.5, is he that good? The habs board is saying hes a top2 just behind matheson, but injuries have derailed him. I just remember this guy because Bowman wanted him before reichel. (Or am i not remembering that correctly?) Higher contract than Vlasic, is Guhle better? You are correct.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 1, 2024 13:39:31 GMT -6
From entry level to 6x5.5, is he that good? The habs board is saying hes a top2 just behind matheson, but injuries have derailed him. I just remember this guy because Bowman wanted him before reichel. (Or am i not remembering that correctly?) Higher contract than Vlasic, is Guhle better? Montreal said they were taking a forward so Bowman didn't offer a trade for their pick because he was going to take Kaiden.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 2, 2024 10:27:39 GMT -6
Ottawa/Sanderson,Buffalo/Power and MN/Faber were all 8X8-8.5 extensions vs the conventional 'bridge' deals we've seen for 1-2 year youngsters in the past,it's the new normal I guess. Even Kane and Toews signed 'bridge' deals.
Vlasic and Guhle haven't put-up the offensive production of the other three(yet),but their AAV's are much more reasonable and neither's max term. Eight years for 28yro Forsling might be a stretch as far a term but that 5.75M is a F'n steal for Fla!
We've discussed the benefits and the problems of paying players in their mid to late 20's for past performance and the wisdom of giving the young players max deals after one or two promising seasons. It appears youth has won-out as it usually does and I believe teams are counting on a rising cap as well.
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Post by BigT on Aug 2, 2024 21:02:17 GMT -6
Ottawa/Sanderson,Buffalo/Power and MN/Faber were all 8X8-8.5 extensions vs the conventional 'bridge' deals we've seen for 1-2 year youngsters in the past,it's the new normal I guess. Even Kane and Toews signed 'bridge' deals. Vlasic and Guhle haven't put-up the offensive production of the other three(yet),but their AAV's are much more reasonable and neither's max term. Eight years for 28yro Forsling might be a stretch as far a term but that 5.75M is a F'n steal for Fla! We've discussed the benefits and the problems of paying players in their mid to late 20's for past performance and the wisdom of giving the young players max deals after one or two promising seasons. It appears youth has won-out as it usually does and I believe teams are counting on a rising cap as well. I’m don’t know if I have the answers. Maybe it is better to bet on a young player to see if you can strike gold. However. I will say Faber is in Makar’s neighborhood. I think 7 million would a got that done. 8x7 for 56 or 7 million per. With the highest dman being around 10 million. To include Faber into that realm seems unreasonable. But at the same time I don’t blame them for trying to score really big!!!
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Post by hsbob on Aug 3, 2024 9:55:49 GMT -6
Ottawa/Sanderson,Buffalo/Power and MN/Faber were all 8X8-8.5 extensions vs the conventional 'bridge' deals we've seen for 1-2 year youngsters in the past,it's the new normal I guess. Even Kane and Toews signed 'bridge' deals. Vlasic and Guhle haven't put-up the offensive production of the other three(yet),but their AAV's are much more reasonable and neither's max term. Eight years for 28yro Forsling might be a stretch as far a term but that 5.75M is a F'n steal for Fla! We've discussed the benefits and the problems of paying players in their mid to late 20's for past performance and the wisdom of giving the young players max deals after one or two promising seasons. It appears youth has won-out as it usually does and I believe teams are counting on a rising cap as well. I’m don’t know if I have the answers. Maybe it is better to bet on a young player to see if you can strike gold. However. I will say Faber is in Makar’s neighborhood. I think 7 million would a got that done. 8x7 for 56 or 7 million per. With the highest dman being around 10 million. To include Faber into that realm seems unreasonable. But at the same time I don’t blame them for trying to score really big!!! I think the Sanderson and Power deals set that market and as impressive as 8gls/47pts are for rookie offensive production from the blue-line,there are also other factors for MN. Faber's a RS with decent size and showed a team just about everything they could want to see in a 21yro D-man's debut IMO. The durability of playing all 82 last year while averaging just shy of 25mins a game......210mins on the PP and 246 on the PK. He also saw most of his team's important,late-game defensive assignments,blocked 150 shots,had a very respectable -1 considering his match-ups and took only 26PIM's along the way. Another factor is,the only other RS D-men on the Wild's roster are 34yro Bogosian and 36yro Spurgeon.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 3, 2024 10:32:26 GMT -6
pretty ballsy signing but might turn out to be a steal. time will tell. i think moves like this must be made these days. no guts, no glory. pretty sure the kings are kicking themselves for letting faber slip away. I will say it again Vlassic deal keeps getting better with signings like this. Sure Faber is a better offensively player, but Vlassic likely will be a shut down D playing against top players and penalty kill. Vlasic' first full season was impressive considering the team around him,a -4 on a team with a -111 point differential while skating over 21mins a night often against opponent's better lines? VERY impressive actually! His natural defensive instincts are apparent and his size and skating ability should lead to more offense as he becomes more comfortable in the league IMO. The thing about Faber is,he's also very reliable defensively(averaging over 4 more mins a game) and a solid PK guy(244 PK mins vs 177) ,both talented,young D-men also block a lotta shots.......150 for Faber and 148 for Vlasic. Vlasic's re-do does look sweet,even if he remains mostly a defensive stalworth able to cover opponent's better players,but if he figures-out how to contribute 30-40 points of offensive production too........he'll be 'melt in your mouth,not your hands' kinda sweet.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 6, 2024 7:43:06 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Aug 6, 2024 8:03:50 GMT -6
I knew the Sens would include Mark Kastelic in one trade or another this summer and I believe he was more than just a 'throw-in' for Boston. The big 25yro fits the mold for a bottom-six Bruins center and it'll be interesting to see if he's utilized differently there than he was in Ottawa. He seems excited to join the original six franchise his grandpa played for........sounds familiar! www.nhl.com/bruins/news/kastelic-s-connection-to-bruins-makes-trade-a-special-one
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Post by vadarx on Aug 13, 2024 2:55:55 GMT -6
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