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Post by mvr on Aug 5, 2021 15:06:35 GMT -6
The Canadiens are looking for a second line centre. The Hawks have one too many.
I wonder if a deal centred around Jonathan Drouin (at half price) for Dylan Strome might be attractive for both teams (with some picks added in either direction to make the deal palatable for both sides.
Drouin is a natural left winger with two way upside who could slide very nicely into the Hawks' top six. He has two years left on a $5.5 M contract, and the Canadiens might be quite willing to unload him.
Drouin's present situation is cloudy which adds to the risk from the Hawks' end. He left the Canadiens for personal reasons last spring.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 5, 2021 15:23:30 GMT -6
The Canadiens are looking for a second line centre. The Hawks have one too many. I wonder if a deal centred around Jonathan Drouin (at half price) for Dylan Strome might be attractive for both teams (with some picks added in either direction to make the deal palatable for both sides. Drouin is a natural left winger with two way upside who could slide very nicely into the Hawks' top six. He has two years left on a $5.5 M contract, and the Canadiens might be quite willing to unload him. Drouin's present situation is cloudy which adds to the risk from the Hawks' end. He left the Canadiens for personal reasons last spring. He'd be on the 3rd line behind Debrincat and Kubalik on LW but that trade could work, especially if the Hawks get a pick and/or a prospect. The Canadians are in need, not Chicago. And I thought Druin was maybe 180lbs, surprised he's listed at 5'11" 201lbs, his scoring went down last season but he had over 20 assists in 40+gms 👍 And with Weber possibly being done, maybe they'll take de Haan. |
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Post by nighbor on Aug 6, 2021 0:38:16 GMT -6
Your last statement throughout the history of sport has been proven to work, sometimes. I to wished more picks would be on the team. I am more hopeful for the D picks the last two or three years especially as Stan has gone to oicking more basic d-men. It's shocking how SB's draft failures are glossed over and accepted,the three D-men taken in the 1st and and one in the 2nd round a few years back were supposed to be the future of the team not to mention the picks that preceded them and now I'm to put stock in the recent picks? Why? GM's bad picks are always glossed over. When you are looking for offensive defencemen you are actually looking for a top tier defenceman who has the skills to be a top six forward and they are rare and harder to project. The recent picks are big d first defencemen already demonstrating their willingness and ability to play that type of game. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 6, 2021 5:21:16 GMT -6
It's shocking how SB's draft failures are glossed over and accepted,the three D-men taken in the 1st and and one in the 2nd round a few years back were supposed to be the future of the team not to mention the picks that preceded them and now I'm to put stock in the recent picks? Why? GM's bad picks are always glossed over. When you are looking for offensive defencemen you are actually looking for a top tier defenceman who has the skills to be a top six forward and they are rare and harder to project. The recent picks are big d first defencemen already demonstrating their willingness and ability to play that type of game. Let's hope the new picks work better than the old picks but so little out of the Joker and Boqvist picks is a disappointment and Beaudin and Mitchell look to be on the same path but who knows. These four were going to revolutionize our back end for the next decade I was told and now it's just 1st round water under the bridge. I thought picks Jokiharju and Carlsson were D-first D-men but JC didn't seem to care for that. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 6, 2021 6:53:53 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 6, 2021 8:03:15 GMT -6
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 6, 2021 8:03:29 GMT -6
Any specifics? Glad this got done, but I want details, man!  |
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 6, 2021 8:07:05 GMT -6
Any specifics? Glad this got done, but I want details, man! this just in... |
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 6, 2021 8:13:10 GMT -6
Any specifics? Glad this got done, but I want details, man! this just in... You are the man! Thank you! As for the deal? You Lord and Master Approves. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 6, 2021 8:14:48 GMT -6
Any specifics? Glad this got done, but I want details, man! this just in... That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 6, 2021 8:34:19 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. i thought it might be a year shorter. for 3 years this is a bargain imho. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 6, 2021 9:19:55 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. i thought it might be a year shorter. for 3 years this is a bargain imho. I think it’s very safe to say that the Hawks are due for a bargain!!! |
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Post by jacksalmon on Aug 6, 2021 10:05:30 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. Given what we saw last year, it is a good thing they signed him. I just hope he can continue to improve on what we saw of him last year. That would make him a winner. |
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Post by Tater on Aug 6, 2021 10:05:48 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. Same here. I thought he'd get a little more for 2 years, but this is better. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Aug 6, 2021 11:14:30 GMT -6
I believe the coaching and pro scouts etc had to sit Scambo down at the end of the year and let him know that he doesn’t have that much in his guys he’s drafted. Look for Rychel to be dealt at the TDL too. Scam said that he has a ton of cap space in 2 years. Basically he’ll have 4-5 guys signed. So he feels he can skip a few drafts and trade away them all and go head first into free agency at that point. I don’t think it’ll work out that well. Basically Scambo is gonna let the Hawks become an expansion team. People will see very quickly that he was never qualified for the job. He was and always will be an order taker. He took orders from Q, couldn’t wait to cut his throat. Then he got rid of McD and now he has what he wants. And even he is probably realizing he’s in way over his head. This is why if this year goes south, and with the ever looming threat of Brad Aldrich coming back to haunt him, he’s gonna step down. I can see it now!!! Stan did not need to be sat down by anyone to discuss his draft picks as he has his spreadsheets to keep him up-to-date and if that is not enough he has you to remind him. Stan liked the way Reichel played against the Blackhawks in Europe and although Stan deals his picks quickly he at least gives them an opportunity to show what they have against NHL'ers. Stan's college and overseas picks take longer to get to the NHL. It is therefore too soon to declare that Stan has not much in the guys he drafted. I still hold to my prediction of a cup in three to five or is it now two to four. For someone you claim is nothing you give him a lot of power. Firstly Rocky sat down with Q and Stan after the 2017-2018 season and refused to blame either but he put both on a short leash. Rocky made it clear that he would decide and it would not take long. It took only fifteeen games eleven games more than Savard had and his last game was a win. Q's system called for little to no physicality. The system called for an uptempo game where the opponents could not keep up. The speed of the our game slowed. No stretch passes, no agressive PK but rather form an umbrella around the goal crease always being on our heels and give the points too much time to pick us apart. Many of our PP breakouts had Kane carrying the puck out when he should have been around center ice keeping the opponents honest and facilitate easier exits. Part of being a GM is supplying the coach with the players to improve the team whenever possible. The ever looming threat of Brad Aldrich is coming back to haunt Stan, the AGM and the complete coaching staff yes even Coach Vincent. Gotta disagree hear 2013 and 2015 lead league in goals against thats Qs system. They were not the fastest team in 2013 or 2015. Kane has never floated around red or blue line on a PP since he has been here. Soup has really been the only guy who carried the puck in on PP its about speed through the neutral zone cant do that floating at the line. The players supplied have not been able to get it done defensively. Think we can all agree short leashes all around this year. |
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Post by hawks27 on Aug 6, 2021 11:38:14 GMT -6
I believe the coaching and pro scouts etc had to sit Scambo down at the end of the year and let him know that he doesn’t have that much in his guys he’s drafted. Look for Rychel to be dealt at the TDL too. Scam said that he has a ton of cap space in 2 years. Basically he’ll have 4-5 guys signed. So he feels he can skip a few drafts and trade away them all and go head first into free agency at that point. I don’t think it’ll work out that well. Basically Scambo is gonna let the Hawks become an expansion team. People will see very quickly that he was never qualified for the job. He was and always will be an order taker. He took orders from Q, couldn’t wait to cut his throat. Then he got rid of McD and now he has what he wants. And even he is probably realizing he’s in way over his head. This is why if this year goes south, and with the ever looming threat of Brad Aldrich coming back to haunt him, he’s gonna step down. I can see it now!!! Stan did not need to be sat down by anyone to discuss his draft picks as he has his spreadsheets to keep him up-to-date and if that is not enough he has you to remind him. Stan liked the way Reichel played against the Blackhawks in Europe and although Stan deals his picks quickly he at least gives them an opportunity to show what they have against NHL'ers. Stan's college and overseas picks take longer to get to the NHL. It is therefore too soon to declare that Stan has not much in the guys he drafted. I still hold to my prediction of a cup in three to five or is it now two to four. For someone you claim is nothing you give him a lot of power. Firstly Rocky sat down with Q and Stan after the 2017-2018 season and refused to blame either but he put both on a short leash. Rocky made it clear that he would decide and it would not take long. It took only fifteeen games eleven games more than Savard had and his last game was a win. Q's system called for little to no physicality. The system called for an uptempo game where the opponents could not keep up. The speed of the our game slowed. No stretch passes, no agressive PK but rather form an umbrella around the goal crease always being on our heels and give the points too much time to pick us apart. Many of our PP breakouts had Kane carrying the puck out when he should have been around center ice keeping the opponents honest and facilitate easier exits. Part of being a GM is supplying the coach with the players to improve the team whenever possible. The ever looming threat of Brad Aldrich is coming back to haunt Stan, the AGM and the complete coaching staff yes even Coach Vincent. From a coaching position, you DON"T put your best puck handler/carrier/skater up in the neutral zone to "hopefully" get a pass from his D-zone. This would make an opponent's job of stopping the PP rush a lot easier, by using a "trap-like" system against the puck carrier. |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 6, 2021 11:38:43 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. good deal for the 'hawks, 1.5 per is a good price for a bottom 6 winger, especially 3 years. good deal for Hagel, he can play his way into a much larger deal in 3 years... I like it. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 6, 2021 14:37:42 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. Given what we saw last year, it is a good thing they signed him. I just hope he can continue to improve on what we saw of him last year. That would make him a winner. Considering he didn't do much for his stats his first 10gms he was talked about every game and turned heads, a couple breakaways and coming close to scoring a few times, he was getting grade A chances. So finishing the year with 9g and 20+ assists while earning more ice time, minus the PP for some reason, but now with a new contract he'll be ready to go from game 1. I can see a 20g-30a season 👍 |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Aug 6, 2021 17:41:20 GMT -6
That's a great deal for what he brings, glad he's back for 3 more years. That's one of them win-win deals. Hagel didn't have a lot of bargaining power, but he's got a decent pay raise and guarantee of a roster spot for 3 years. At the same time, the Hawks are getting a bargain. I know that it's a small sample, but he appears to be around 15-20g and 40pts per full season player. So, certainly, he would command around 3-4mil on the open market. Anyways, this is a very good deal. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 6, 2021 18:04:50 GMT -6
Given what we saw last year, it is a good thing they signed him. I just hope he can continue to improve on what we saw of him last year. That would make him a winner. Considering he didn't do much for his stats his first 10gms he was talked about every game and turned heads, a couple breakaways and coming close to scoring a few times, he was getting grade A chances. So finishing the year with 9g and 20+ assists while earning more ice time, minus the PP for some reason, but now with a new contract he'll be ready to go from game 1. I can see a 20g-30a season 👍 If he hits that it's gravy. Given that the kid played with more heart that anyone else on the roster and never took a shift off (something we haven't really seen since Hjammer and Hossa left), even if he's only a 10/20 player his tenacity still makes this a great deal. Hopefully what he brings is contagious to everyone else. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 6, 2021 18:07:12 GMT -6
Considering he didn't do much for his stats his first 10gms he was talked about every game and turned heads, a couple breakaways and coming close to scoring a few times, he was getting grade A chances. So finishing the year with 9g and 20+ assists while earning more ice time, minus the PP for some reason, but now with a new contract he'll be ready to go from game 1. I can see a 20g-30a season 👍 If he hits that it's gravy. lump free....served in gramma's best gravy boat on velvety smooth, buttery mashed potatoes. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 6, 2021 18:18:44 GMT -6
If he hits that it's gravy. lump free....served in gramma's best gravy boat on velvety smooth, buttery mashed potatoes. I like the way you think... |
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Post by Tater on Aug 6, 2021 23:08:42 GMT -6
I'm almost more happy about this move than Jones or Fleury. He could be a real bargain in a year or two and I think he will.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 7, 2021 0:46:02 GMT -6
I'm almost more happy about this move than Jones or Fleury. He could be a real bargain in a year or two and I think he will. i think he's even a bargain hung over from d-cat's wedding. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 7, 2021 7:28:07 GMT -6
Given what we saw last year, it is a good thing they signed him. I just hope he can continue to improve on what we saw of him last year. That would make him a winner. Considering he didn't do much for his stats his first 10gms he was talked about every game and turned heads, a couple breakaways and coming close to scoring a few times, he was getting grade A chances. So finishing the year with 9g and 20+ assists while earning more ice time, minus the PP for some reason, but now with a new contract he'll be ready to go from game 1. I can see a 20g-30a season 👍 Even when he wasn’t scoring,you knew the goals would come,I’d love to see your forecast come true! I dunno if contagious is a good word to use these days(LOL)but his style of play rubs off on team mates. Watching the kid develop this year will be a lotta fun. Good signing! |
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Post by nighbor on Aug 7, 2021 23:41:20 GMT -6
Stan did not need to be sat down by anyone to discuss his draft picks as he has his spreadsheets to keep him up-to-date and if that is not enough he has you to remind him. Stan liked the way Reichel played against the Blackhawks in Europe and although Stan deals his picks quickly he at least gives them an opportunity to show what they have against NHL'ers. Stan's college and overseas picks take longer to get to the NHL. It is therefore too soon to declare that Stan has not much in the guys he drafted. I still hold to my prediction of a cup in three to five or is it now two to four. For someone you claim is nothing you give him a lot of power. Firstly Rocky sat down with Q and Stan after the 2017-2018 season and refused to blame either but he put both on a short leash. Rocky made it clear that he would decide and it would not take long. It took only fifteeen games eleven games more than Savard had and his last game was a win. Q's system called for little to no physicality. The system called for an uptempo game where the opponents could not keep up. The speed of the our game slowed. No stretch passes, no agressive PK but rather form an umbrella around the goal crease always being on our heels and give the points too much time to pick us apart. Many of our PP breakouts had Kane carrying the puck out when he should have been around center ice keeping the opponents honest and facilitate easier exits. Part of being a GM is supplying the coach with the players to improve the team whenever possible. The ever looming threat of Brad Aldrich is coming back to haunt Stan, the AGM and the complete coaching staff yes even Coach Vincent. Are you comparing Savard's cup o coffee,short stint here to Hof Legend Joel Quenneville's championship tenure? Please tell me you're not! Q's system? Q's system is having the same effect down in Florida that it had here in Chicago.....do you like the system,the coaching and the record since the dimwit fired the HoF coach? You need TWO bushels for that much horseshit! Did you see the overt physicality in the Panthers' first round series.....Q has rugged men now instead of scared boys. Is it those spreadsheets responsible for all but his last three 1st rounders already being given up on? Gloss over his awful drafting and his drunken sailor spending spree two summers ago all you want but questioning a great hockey mind like Q's doesn't make the dimwit's mind any less dim. We'll see if another massive spending spree brings a cup in the near future but with so many 1st rounders gone and the cap being a huge issue for some time to come.....I ain't holdin' my breath. You continue to blame a Hof coach who's been gone for three years but it's the many draft failures and wasted spending unless you like giving up a 2nd and a 3rd to carry Shaw's deal till it can be LTIR'd.....that' an unforced error. When Brent buyout' Connolly doesn't play for his 3.5M,that's a unforced error too and don't get me started on Calvin deHAAN-job and his 4.55M. Maybe the nitwit can spend his way out of all of that........."we'll see" as a Hof wise man once said. You have managed to create a mountain out of a mole hill. Posters complained because Q was fired after only fifteen games in 2018 and I pointed out factually how lucky he was because HoF Savard was fired after only four games. To be brutally honest Savard lost his job when Q was hired as a scout. I have always given coach Q his share of the credit for the team success but I refuse to put him on a pedestal and claim he is the be all and end all. When Q stands up on the podium to become a member of the HoF he will be joined by Keith, Seabrook, Toews, Kane, Hossa and hopefully Crawford and Hjalmarrson. When the system worked we were the aggressor and we set the pace. The PK covered the points with Toews Hossa or Sharp and we were a danger to score. I wish Q much success except against the Blackhawks. I would not call Rocky a dimwit and it was his call because Rocky said he would and I would not presume to call him a liar. I never watch the Panthers. When Q took over Florida the team was already bigger than the Blackhawks and Q had nothing to do with that. Mike Kitchen was his d coach in Chicago and he believed that if you hit you would miss or put yourself out of position. Remember Stan fired Kitchen for being too soft and he was replaced by Ulf Samuelsson. Ulf Samuelsson is now the assistant to Q in Florida and not Mike Kitchen. Q has rugged men now instead of scared boys. Really!!!! Your selective memory glossed over the fact that in the 2015 western conference final it was said of these scared boys that no man can put up with all this pain or something to that effect. They could. They did. They won the cup. Over Stan’s tenure if you get rid of the two years he had no 1st rounder (Saad & DeBrincat) his picks averaged out to 18th and he managed to trade them for players who were drafted earlier. If you want to talk glossed over failed picks what happened to the picks of Talon, Skille(7) 79 games 25 points gone, Beach(11) total of 0 NHL games gone and Olsen(28) 1 point in 28 games gone. I have never blamed Q for today’s Blackhawks just as I will not give him credit when things turn-around. In my replies I keep pointing out that Q is just a man and has made mistakes in the past and it is okay to hold him to account. In past writings I suggested that Q get a bird’s eye view of the game as IMHO the system stopped being up-tempo. You continue to point out the negatives like a second and a third to bring Shaw home and gloss over the Shaw to Montreal for a second which became DeBrincat who is a fan favorite, great back checking, top six forward, who happens to be a goal scoring machine. As an optimist the book has not been closed on Shaw, Connolly and deHaan and until then I will keep on reading. It’s premature to close the chapters on many of Stan’s draft picks and the plot thickens. As a famous HoF catcher said it ain’t over till it’s over. |
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Post by nighbor on Aug 8, 2021 10:07:43 GMT -6
Stan did not need to be sat down by anyone to discuss his draft picks as he has his spreadsheets to keep him up-to-date and if that is not enough he has you to remind him. Stan liked the way Reichel played against the Blackhawks in Europe and although Stan deals his picks quickly he at least gives them an opportunity to show what they have against NHL'ers. Stan's college and overseas picks take longer to get to the NHL. It is therefore too soon to declare that Stan has not much in the guys he drafted. I still hold to my prediction of a cup in three to five or is it now two to four. For someone you claim is nothing you give him a lot of power. Firstly Rocky sat down with Q and Stan after the 2017-2018 season and refused to blame either but he put both on a short leash. Rocky made it clear that he would decide and it would not take long. It took only fifteeen games eleven games more than Savard had and his last game was a win. Q's system called for little to no physicality. The system called for an uptempo game where the opponents could not keep up. The speed of the our game slowed. No stretch passes, no agressive PK but rather form an umbrella around the goal crease always being on our heels and give the points too much time to pick us apart. Many of our PP breakouts had Kane carrying the puck out when he should have been around center ice keeping the opponents honest and facilitate easier exits. Part of being a GM is supplying the coach with the players to improve the team whenever possible. The ever looming threat of Brad Aldrich is coming back to haunt Stan, the AGM and the complete coaching staff yes even Coach Vincent. Gotta disagree hear 2013 and 2015 lead league in goals against thats Qs system. They were not the fastest team in 2013 or 2015. Kane has never floated around red or blue line on a PP since he has been here. Soup has really been the only guy who carried the puck in on PP its about speed through the neutral zone cant do that floating at the line. The players supplied have not been able to get it done defensively. Think we can all agree short leashes all around this year. Soupy was traded to Florida and was there from 2011-2012 to 2015-2016 before returning here for the 2016-2017 season. The team had problems exiting our defensive zone even on PP’s because we could not handle their fore-checking scheme. The idea of Kane in the neutral zone was not necessary for the pass but to give the attacking team something to worry about. |
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Post by MadHawksFan on Aug 8, 2021 23:44:28 GMT -6
Best of luck to Kampf and Suter. Both seem like good guys. Any bets that Kampf get a hat trick in his first game against the Hawks?  shocked they didn't bring back Kampf, but I guess they finally realized his lack of offense negated his defensive abilities. 500k isn't much of a raise... Yeah right kampt couldn't finish on an open net... I've been a hawks fan for 31 years and it makes me angry reading a lot of the posts on these forums... Ask yourselves are you actually fans? Seems like a lot of you moan and grown and act like we don't have a good team. The REAL fact is, our team looks great, we have a good shot with all these off season moves to make something happen here, why not be excited instead of picking apart Stan and not SUPPORTING your TEAM. With Toews back (if he is back, and it sounds like he will be) and Johnson here, I love our depth down the middle, we have 2 great scoring lines and a solid 3rd with a grinding 4th (which I really, really think we needed). Anyway, be a true fan and show some support, get excited, if We're not doing well at the start of the season look for the FO to get a new coach, just like when they brought in Q. Untill then, give the boys a chance and let's see what happens here, you don't need to finish at the bottom to rebuild, if you build your team right you do it just how Stan is doing it here... LETS GO HAWKS!! |
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Post by Tater on Aug 9, 2021 0:25:52 GMT -6
Yeah right kampt couldn't finish on an open net... I've been a hawks fan for 31 years and it makes me angry reading a lot of the posts on these forums... Ask yourselves are you actually fans? Seems like a lot of you moan and grown and act like we don't have a good team. The REAL fact is, our team looks great, we have a good shot with all these off season moves to make something happen here, why not be excited instead of picking apart Stan and not SUPPORTING your TEAM. With Toews back (if he is back, and it sounds like he will be) and Johnson here, I love our depth down the middle, we have 2 great scoring lines and a solid 3rd with a grinding 4th (which I really, really think we needed). Anyway, be a true fan and show some support, get excited, if We're not doing well at the start of the season look for the FO to get a new coach, just like when they brought in Q. Untill then, give the boys a chance and let's see what happens here, you don't need to finish at the bottom to rebuild, if you build your team right you do it just how Stan is doing it here... LETS GO HAWKS!! Why are you listed as a guest? Or did you quit already?
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Post by jaty84 on Aug 9, 2021 1:17:19 GMT -6
shocked they didn't bring back Kampf, but I guess they finally realized his lack of offense negated his defensive abilities. 500k isn't much of a raise... Yeah right kampt couldn't finish on an open net... I've been a hawks fan for 31 years and it makes me angry reading a lot of the posts on these forums... Ask yourselves are you actually fans? Seems like a lot of you moan and grown and act like we don't have a good team. The REAL fact is, our team looks great, we have a good shot with all these off season moves to make something happen here, why not be excited instead of picking apart Stan and not SUPPORTING your TEAM. With Toews back (if he is back, and it sounds like he will be) and Johnson here, I love our depth down the middle, we have 2 great scoring lines and a solid 3rd with a grinding 4th (which I really, really think we needed). Anyway, be a true fan and show some support, get excited, if We're not doing well at the start of the season look for the FO to get a new coach, just like when they brought in Q. Untill then, give the boys a chance and let's see what happens here, you don't need to finish at the bottom to rebuild, if you build your team right you do it just how Stan is doing it here... LETS GO HAWKS!! If folks around here would not be Hawks' fans, they would not be around. Surely all of us want the team to succeed and we'll cheer for them once the season starts. I don't believe there would be happy people over here in case Hawks will start on a loosing streak. But does this necesserily have to mean that we have to automatically agree with each and every move and signing made by the front office? I don't think so. I'm sure you discuss different topics with your wife during dinner or with friends while having beer. The same goes on over here. We discuss. I for once don't think the front office is going into a good direction. Directions are being changed every off-season or at least so it appears to me. This off-season we've got for instance Jones but at what price. Should this fail, we don't have 2 first round picks unless some other trades are made. Such would put us back 2-3 years back in the rebuild. Is true we still have Toews and Kane, top players. But for how long? Potentially Dach and D-cat can be their replacements but they still have long way to go to proove it. After that, there is very little top material. Sure, you can get them through free agency. But imho the core should come from within the organization and through free agency you just complement it according to your needs. Does my opinion now have to be interpreted that I want Hawks to fail? |
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