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Post by BigT on Aug 24, 2021 12:32:24 GMT -6
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 24, 2021 14:56:02 GMT -6
I wonder what hallucinogens Pope is adsorbing rectally to think DeHaan will be our #1LD. McCabe, Stillman, Beaudin, Mitchell, et. al. showed more than he did. Realistically I think McCabe gets the shot at #1LD and Murph or NyukNyuk gets to babysit DeHaan.
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Post by BigT on Aug 24, 2021 15:25:52 GMT -6
I wonder what hallucinogens Pope is adsorbing rectally to think DeHaan will be our #1LD. McCabe, Stillman, Beaudin, Mitchell, et. al. showed more than he did. Realistically I think McCabe gets the shot at #1LD and Murph or NyukNyuk gets to babysit DeHaan. Pope rhymes with dope! I don’t think deHaan is really all that bad. It’s clear as day he’s not gonna be able to carry a rookie. But I think he’s decent enough to be a#4-5. And if they pair him on the top pairing, I think he’ll do ok with a good player like Jones. But I’m not blind and there’s better guys than him!!!
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Aug 24, 2021 15:57:03 GMT -6
I wonder what hallucinogens Pope is adsorbing rectally to think DeHaan will be our #1LD. McCabe, Stillman, Beaudin, Mitchell, et. al. showed more than he did. Realistically I think McCabe gets the shot at #1LD and Murph or NyukNyuk gets to babysit DeHaan. That jumped out at me as well. I am also not sure that we want to have Dach as our #1 center. PS: Since we live in a state where hallucinogens are legal, we could take some and see if we come up with the same line combinations.
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 24, 2021 16:47:43 GMT -6
I wonder what hallucinogens Pope is adsorbing rectally to think DeHaan will be our #1LD. McCabe, Stillman, Beaudin, Mitchell, et. al. showed more than he did. Realistically I think McCabe gets the shot at #1LD and Murph or NyukNyuk gets to babysit DeHaan. Pope rhymes with dope! I don’t think deHaan is really all that bad. It’s clear as day he’s not gonna be able to carry a rookie. But I think he’s decent enough to be a#4-5. And if they pair him on the top pairing, I think he’ll do ok with a good player like Jones. But I’m not blind and there’s better guys than him!!! He certainly looked that bad last season. I also don't think he play last year was an anomaly. I could be wrong but ever since we got him DeHaan has been nothing special to my eye--definitely not 4.5M worth of D-man. Something we have to consider is also how players would look on a good squad. We can't be blinded to how they look with a squad as bad as the 'hawks have been in the past few years. With respect to DeHaan I don't think any team with at least a decent defense he gets slotted higher than a #5--and even then it's pushing it in my opinion. Even Murph on a decent D-squad probably *just* squeaks into slot 4, and realistically neither of them would have unseated *any* of the top-4 on any of our SC-winning teams (and I don't think DeHaan as we know him would have even been iced on the 2010 squad). I'm not saying this to deliberately put down our guys, but I think that taking a "on a decent squad" mentality helps in really pinning down what our players actually are. If one of the kids outplays DeHaan that doesn't mean he's a top-3 because DeHaan's playing as a #4. He's a #4 on a depleted squad. Expectations have to be tempered accordingly. Knowing that some of our guys are playing a role above their paygrade (and not doing that well of a job) has to be taken into consideration.
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 24, 2021 16:54:21 GMT -6
I wonder what hallucinogens Pope is adsorbing rectally to think DeHaan will be our #1LD. McCabe, Stillman, Beaudin, Mitchell, et. al. showed more than he did. Realistically I think McCabe gets the shot at #1LD and Murph or NyukNyuk gets to babysit DeHaan. That jumped out at me as well. I am also not sure that we want to have Dach as our #1 center. PS: Since we live in a state where hallucinogens are legal, we could take some and see if we come up with the same line combinations. Being serious, I think the 'hawks need to see what they have in Dach: Can he learn to win faceoffs? Can he play center in all 3 zones? Can we stick him up against high offense or high defense lines and can he rise to the challenge? The sooner the 'hawks know that the sooner they'll know what they need to do with him--be it slot him at #1, #2, #3, a top winger, or whether or not he becomes Stan's Cam Barker. In order to do that he's got to see some tough minutes Even if he isn't the #1C, he should be getting at least #2C minutes. We can't really coddle him much moving forward. I think the 'hawks need to see exactly what both Dach and Johnson have (and possibly give Strome some time to see if he's grown a heart), and the best time will be early on while Toews is knocking off rust.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Aug 24, 2021 17:32:46 GMT -6
That jumped out at me as well. I am also not sure that we want to have Dach as our #1 center. PS: Since we live in a state where hallucinogens are legal, we could take some and see if we come up with the same line combinations. Being serious, I think the 'hawks need to see what they have in Dach: Can he learn to win faceoffs? Can he play center in all 3 zones? Can we stick him up against high offense or high defense lines and can he rise to the challenge? The sooner the 'hawks know that the sooner they'll know what they need to do with him--be it slot him at #1, #2, #3, a top winger, or whether or not he becomes Stan's Cam Barker. In order to do that he's got to see some tough minutes Even if he isn't the #1C, he should be getting at least #2C minutes. We can't really coddle him much moving forward. I think the 'hawks need to see exactly what both Dach and Johnson have (and possibly give Strome some time to see if he's grown a heart), and the best time will be early on while Toews is knocking off rust. I'd be more inclined to see what Strome can do as the #1 center. I still harbor some hope that he will step up -- and that Colliton will give him that opportunity. Yes, Dach is the putative #1C of the future, but I am not sure the future is here yet. I do think that eventually Dach will be that player that we all hoped he would be. This is going to be an interesting season though, particularly if Towes is near his former self. At least on paper the team is much improved.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 24, 2021 21:21:43 GMT -6
That jumped out at me as well. I am also not sure that we want to have Dach as our #1 center. PS: Since we live in a state where hallucinogens are legal, we could take some and see if we come up with the same line combinations. Being serious, I think the 'hawks need to see what they have in Dach: Can he learn to win faceoffs? Can he play center in all 3 zones? Can we stick him up against high offense or high defense lines and can he rise to the challenge? The sooner the 'hawks know that the sooner they'll know what they need to do with him--be it slot him at #1, #2, #3, a top winger, or whether or not he becomes Stan's Cam Barker. In order to do that he's got to see some tough minutes Even if he isn't the #1C, he should be getting at least #2C minutes. We can't really coddle him much moving forward. I think the 'hawks need to see exactly what both Dach and Johnson have (and possibly give Strome some time to see if he's grown a heart), and the best time will be early on while Toews is knocking off rust. There's no doubt Dach can play in all 3 zones, it's his faceoffs and knowing when to shoot that he needs to improve. Also, his first 2 seasons he was injured at the beginning of both, hopefully he's healthy and ready to start. His first season he had to have limited minutes because he was 18 but earned more ice time till he was playing in the top6. At his nasty wrist injury his first game back he was on the 4th line then playing with Kane during the same game. He played hard minutes and took a bad slash to his wrist and was out again. He'll be stronger and heavier this season, so hopefully he can defend himself better.
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Post by Tater on Aug 24, 2021 23:08:51 GMT -6
There's no doubt Dach can play in all 3 zones, it's his faceoffs and knowing when to shoot that he needs to improve. Also, his first 2 seasons he was injured at the beginning of both, hopefully he's healthy and ready to start. His first season he had to have limited minutes because he was 18 but earned more ice time till he was playing in the top6. At his nasty wrist injury his first game back he was on the 4th line then playing with Kane during the same game. He played hard minutes and took a bad slash to his wrist and was out again. He'll be stronger and heavier this season, so hopefully he can defend himself better.I'm looking forward to a bigger heavier KD. It seems like Toews won't be ready for the start of the season, but hopefully he's at least able to work with Dach on faceoffs.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 24, 2021 23:56:20 GMT -6
There's no doubt Dach can play in all 3 zones, it's his faceoffs and knowing when to shoot that he needs to improve. Also, his first 2 seasons he was injured at the beginning of both, hopefully he's healthy and ready to start. His first season he had to have limited minutes because he was 18 but earned more ice time till he was playing in the top6. At his nasty wrist injury his first game back he was on the 4th line then playing with Kane during the same game. He played hard minutes and took a bad slash to his wrist and was out again. He'll be stronger and heavier this season, so hopefully he can defend himself better.I'm looking forward to a bigger heavier KD. It seems like Toews won't be ready for the start of the season, but hopefully he's at least able to work with Dach on faceoffs. He's still listed at 198lbs but Dach said before the Edmonton play in round he added 10lbs. He's probably in the mid teens or 220s now. Maybe even 6'5". Hopefully he upped his calcium intake, that was a weird wrist injury on light contact. Then Chicago drafted the guy he ran into lol 6'4" 205lb Russian center.
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Post by Tater on Aug 24, 2021 23:59:09 GMT -6
He's still listed at 198lbs but Dach said before the Edmonton play in round he added 10lbs. He's probably in the mid teens or 220s now. Maybe even 6'5". Hopefully he upped his calcium intake, that was a weird wrist injury on light contact. Then Chicago drafted the guy he ran into lol That would be nice! I really hope he turns out to be a beast.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 25, 2021 1:28:50 GMT -6
hoping them dach boys combine for about 12'10" and 480 lbs. when it's all said and done.
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Post by jaty84 on Aug 25, 2021 6:42:17 GMT -6
hoping them dach boys combine for about 12'10" and 480 lbs. when it's all said and done. I'm not sure about height target, but weight might be achievable.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 25, 2021 6:49:46 GMT -6
hoping them dach boys combine for about 12'10" and 480 lbs. when it's all said and done. I'm not sure about height target, but weight might be achievable. well....they're 12' 8" already. (both 6' 4") weight-wise they've got about 75 pounds to go. get eating, boys!
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Post by vadarx on Aug 25, 2021 9:32:16 GMT -6
hoping them dach boys combine for about 12'10" and 480 lbs. when it's all said and done. I'd be happy with 450, myself.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 25, 2021 9:38:42 GMT -6
hoping them dach boys combine for about 12'10" and 480 lbs. when it's all said and done. I'd be happy with 450, myself. 225 each is a good number, anymore might hinder their skating, although Buff was usually around 260 and he skated fine, but he was a freak.
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Post by nighbor on Aug 26, 2021 0:38:02 GMT -6
I agree, great signing and I think this kid does have potential, not only that, he goes with that 4th line grinder line that I really think we need to go deep in a playoff run. If we can get really tough line that can be responsible in the defensive end and put some goals in once in awhile we're laughing here. 800k 2 way deal, no loss here if he doesn't work out. LET'S GO HAWKS! Welcome here. I’d just like you to know that the reason there has been so much negativity is just due to the teams performance and the teams prospects (mainly first rounders) rarely ever pan out. I think there has been just cause for mismanagement. Scambo isn’t much of a sports guy. It is what it is. Hopefully he succeeds, but we’ve seen 10 years of his work and the last 5 have been brutal. So people catch on. If the team does well and fails when it counts, the fans will let em know and I’d bet the upper brass does too. Apparently the rebuilding and getting younger is out the window. So we’ll see. I’m no longer sold on much of what this guy does due to it failing all the time. We all have to admit that it didn’t work before, so it may not this time!!! We have seen him have to move out high quality players due to the salary cap and replace them with low to marginal players and still get the support players our core needed to keep winning cups. We made the playoffs eight consecutive seasons under him the last playoff season 2016-2017 we tied our record for away victories. We were swept in four by the eight seed because of a power outage. Panarin 0-1, Kane 1-1, Toews 1-1. Stan and Q could not score for them. As for rebuilding and getting younger there are 26 teams older than the Blackhawks (26.28 yrs). How young would be acceptable to you. Good GM"s like Stan must be ready to go with the flow. The loss of Keith forced Stan to find another number one d-man perferrably someone much younger and Seth Jones filled the bill. With Seabrook off the books it opened the door for Stan to add a quality d-man Jake McCabe. Now we have four quality seasoned d-men something we have not had in quite awhile. Calvin deHaan (30) and Seth Jones (27). Second pairing old friends and former partners Jake McCabe (27) and Connor Murphy (28). Between Caleb Jones, Wyatt Kalynuk, Riley Stillman and the rest we can surely find our #5#6 and #7 d-men.
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Post by Tater on Aug 26, 2021 1:01:38 GMT -6
We have seen him have to move out high quality players due to the salary cap and replace them with low to marginal players and still get the support players our core needed to keep winning cups. We made the playoffs eight consecutive seasons under him the last playoff season 2016-2017 we tied our record for away victories. We were swept in four by the eight seed because of a power outage. Panarin 0-1, Kane 1-1, Toews 1-1. Stan and Q could not score for them. As for rebuilding and getting younger there are 26 teams older than the Blackhawks (26.28 yrs). How young would be acceptable to you. Good GM"s like Stan must be ready to go with the flow. The loss of Keith forced Stan to find another number one d-man perferrably someone much younger and Seth Jones filled the bill. With Seabrook off the books it opened the door for Stan to add a quality d-man Jake McCabe. Now we have four quality seasoned d-men something we have not had in quite awhile. Calvin deHaan (30) and Seth Jones (27). Second pairing old friends and former partners Jake McCabe (27) and Connor Murphy (28). Between Caleb Jones, Wyatt Kalynuk, Riley Stillman and the rest we can surely find our #5#6 and #7 d-men.
But then there is the coaching.
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Post by nighbor on Aug 26, 2021 1:26:58 GMT -6
so then... now that I have a minute to address this... I'm not sure what about my post about Kampf not being re-signed triggered such a response, but okie doke... not sure how much of an all caps fact it is that this team will be great, but to insinuate that I don't want them to be would be a mistake on your part. I am, have been, and always will be a Chicago Blackhawks fan and my questioning of the way things are being done in no way has any effect on said fandom. that being said, welcome to the board! I agree with you. Being critical of the managements decisions is part of being a fan. That’s what fans do, they criticize and discuss decisions. I’ve actually stood up for Ol Scambo from time to time. But there really hasn’t been much to celebrate under his watch. Let’s not include the few Cups that he was more of a spectator. With Q telling him what he wanted. It worked out well for some time, but he wanted things his way. Fair enough. But things haven’t worked out at all for Ol Scambo. This is where fans and a message board really starts popping. It’s the nature of things. If, and I mean if things work out for the Hawks this year. I will celebrate amongst my fellow Hawks fans. So, let’s hope it works out, but if it doesn’t, are fans supposed to celebrate another year of losing? I’ll welcome everyone to the boards. But I’m not so keen on someone jumping in only to do what they say they don’t like. Onward and upward!!! Being critical of management and coaching decisiions is part of being a fan. You do not get to rewrite history. Q did not do anything special in 2013 and 2015 to earn extra credits. It is common practice in every sport for management and coaches to get together periodically to evaluate the team needs. Choosing the target is the easy part. At the TDL many teams set their sights on the same target and landing the target is where Stan has excelled. It wasn't until after the Nashville debacle when his job was on the line that Stan asserted his authority and made changes in a effort to make the Blackhawks more phusical and harder to play against.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 26, 2021 7:25:42 GMT -6
I agree with you. Being critical of the managements decisions is part of being a fan. That’s what fans do, they criticize and discuss decisions. I’ve actually stood up for Ol Scambo from time to time. But there really hasn’t been much to celebrate under his watch. Let’s not include the few Cups that he was more of a spectator. With Q telling him what he wanted. It worked out well for some time, but he wanted things his way. Fair enough. But things haven’t worked out at all for Ol Scambo. This is where fans and a message board really starts popping. It’s the nature of things. If, and I mean if things work out for the Hawks this year. I will celebrate amongst my fellow Hawks fans. So, let’s hope it works out, but if it doesn’t, are fans supposed to celebrate another year of losing? I’ll welcome everyone to the boards. But I’m not so keen on someone jumping in only to do what they say they don’t like. Onward and upward!!! Being critical of management and coaching decisiions is part of being a fan. You do not get to rewrite history. Q did not do anything special in 2013 and 2015 to earn extra credits. It is common practice in every sport for management and coaches to get together periodically to evaluate the team needs. Choosing the target is the easy part. At the TDL many teams set their sights on the same target and landing the target is where Stan has excelled. It wasn't until after the Nashville debacle when his job was on the line that Stan asserted his authority and made changes in a effort to make the Blackhawks more phusical and harder to play against. Did you just say a HC winning two cups in three years is "not doing anything special"? I don't understand this kind of thinking......this is the epitome of a defeatist mentality. Q's been gone for three years for God's sake and Harry Potter's three over in the span...........anything special? Did Stan "excel" in losing Danault? Asserted his authority? He got Rocky and McD's permission after Scotty convinced Rocky that nepotism is the way to go......I give you 'Prince Daniel'.......the 2017 'Liquor executive of the year' and now the visionary who'll redefine hockey in Chicago. More physical and harder to play against? We must watch different teams my friend. You want to see physical and hard to paly against.....check out a Panthers game! I take ZERO exception with anyone posting positive assessments of acquired players or our own prospects or the season to come and I stay out of the conversations if I disagree but you're the one re-writing history in defense of SB and the last three failed seasons.
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 26, 2021 9:01:46 GMT -6
I agree with you. Being critical of the managements decisions is part of being a fan. That’s what fans do, they criticize and discuss decisions. I’ve actually stood up for Ol Scambo from time to time. But there really hasn’t been much to celebrate under his watch. Let’s not include the few Cups that he was more of a spectator. With Q telling him what he wanted. It worked out well for some time, but he wanted things his way. Fair enough. But things haven’t worked out at all for Ol Scambo. This is where fans and a message board really starts popping. It’s the nature of things. If, and I mean if things work out for the Hawks this year. I will celebrate amongst my fellow Hawks fans. So, let’s hope it works out, but if it doesn’t, are fans supposed to celebrate another year of losing? I’ll welcome everyone to the boards. But I’m not so keen on someone jumping in only to do what they say they don’t like. Onward and upward!!! Being critical of management and coaching decisiions is part of being a fan. You do not get to rewrite history. Q did not do anything special in 2013 and 2015 to earn extra credits. It is common practice in every sport for management and coaches to get together periodically to evaluate the team needs. Choosing the target is the easy part. At the TDL many teams set their sights on the same target and landing the target is where Stan has excelled. It wasn't until after the Nashville debacle when his job was on the line that Stan asserted his authority and made changes in a effort to make the Blackhawks more phusical and harder to play against. Disagree. Q's coaching won the 2015 series against Anaheim. And after the Nashville debacle, the 'hawks got *easier* to play against if anything. Q, Stan, and JC all share culpability in that...not to mention any player iced not named Corey Crawford in the 2018 season.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 26, 2021 9:13:09 GMT -6
Being critical of management and coaching decisiions is part of being a fan. You do not get to rewrite history. Q did not do anything special in 2013 and 2015 to earn extra credits. It is common practice in every sport for management and coaches to get together periodically to evaluate the team needs. Choosing the target is the easy part. At the TDL many teams set their sights on the same target and landing the target is where Stan has excelled. It wasn't until after the Nashville debacle when his job was on the line that Stan asserted his authority and made changes in a effort to make the Blackhawks more phusical and harder to play against. Stan, is that you? Asserted his (your) authority after the Nashville debacle and made them more physical and harder to play against. That's not what most of us watched, especially with Gus and Keith as the top pair and most of the forwards who didn't forecheck and retrieve pucks. Last season they started to add size and play more physical but it's still far from teams like Vegas and Tampa. This season should be different with a bigger stronger group, especially on D, but with JC as coach I'm not overly confident.
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Post by hawks27 on Aug 26, 2021 11:03:03 GMT -6
Welcome here. I’d just like you to know that the reason there has been so much negativity is just due to the teams performance and the teams prospects (mainly first rounders) rarely ever pan out. I think there has been just cause for mismanagement. Scambo isn’t much of a sports guy. It is what it is. Hopefully he succeeds, but we’ve seen 10 years of his work and the last 5 have been brutal. So people catch on. If the team does well and fails when it counts, the fans will let em know and I’d bet the upper brass does too. Apparently the rebuilding and getting younger is out the window. So we’ll see. I’m no longer sold on much of what this guy does due to it failing all the time. We all have to admit that it didn’t work before, so it may not this time!!! We have seen him have to move out high quality players due to the salary cap and replace them with low to marginal players and still get the support players our core needed to keep winning cups. We made the playoffs eight consecutive seasons under him the last playoff season 2016-2017 we tied our record for away victories. We were swept in four by the eight seed because of a power outage. Panarin 0-1, Kane 1-1, Toews 1-1. Stan and Q could not score for them. As for rebuilding and getting younger there are 26 teams older than the Blackhawks (26.28 yrs). How young would be acceptable to you. Good GM"s like Stan must be ready to go with the flow. The loss of Keith forced Stan to find another number one d-man perferrably someone much younger and Seth Jones filled the bill. With Seabrook off the books it opened the door for Stan to add a quality d-man Jake McCabe. Now we have four quality seasoned d-men something we have not had in quite awhile. Calvin deHaan (30) and Seth Jones (27). Second pairing old friends and former partners Jake McCabe (27) and Connor Murphy (28). Between Caleb Jones, Wyatt Kalynuk, Riley Stillman and the rest we can surely find our #5#6 and #7 d-men. The only way I would consider deHaan a "seasoned d-man" would be if someone stuck a jalapeno in his area where the sun wouldn't shine, to make him get quicker.
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 26, 2021 11:26:03 GMT -6
We have seen him have to move out high quality players due to the salary cap and replace them with low to marginal players and still get the support players our core needed to keep winning cups. We made the playoffs eight consecutive seasons under him the last playoff season 2016-2017 we tied our record for away victories. We were swept in four by the eight seed because of a power outage. Panarin 0-1, Kane 1-1, Toews 1-1. Stan and Q could not score for them. As for rebuilding and getting younger there are 26 teams older than the Blackhawks (26.28 yrs). How young would be acceptable to you. Good GM"s like Stan must be ready to go with the flow. The loss of Keith forced Stan to find another number one d-man perferrably someone much younger and Seth Jones filled the bill. With Seabrook off the books it opened the door for Stan to add a quality d-man Jake McCabe. Now we have four quality seasoned d-men something we have not had in quite awhile. Calvin deHaan (30) and Seth Jones (27). Second pairing old friends and former partners Jake McCabe (27) and Connor Murphy (28). Between Caleb Jones, Wyatt Kalynuk, Riley Stillman and the rest we can surely find our #5#6 and #7 d-men. The only way I would consider deHaan a "seasoned d-man" would be if someone stuck a jalapeno in his area where the sun wouldn't shine, to make him get quicker.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 26, 2021 15:52:57 GMT -6
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Post by BigT on Aug 26, 2021 16:50:19 GMT -6
I heard that due to the “ investigation”, the Hawks don’t really want many around that may have an opinion or something to say. I even heard that even though Sharpie is a star on NBC, he may not be doing many if any Hawks games this year. The Hawks brass doesn’t want to hear about this thing and more than likely they’ll pay the victims off and not want to hear anything more!!!
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Post by vadarx on Aug 26, 2021 20:44:40 GMT -6
lame on Jammer, but I won't miss Konroyd. he was ok between periods, but I hated when he took Eddie's spot.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 26, 2021 20:46:41 GMT -6
I heard that due to the “ investigation”, the Hawks don’t really want many around that may have an opinion or something to say. I even heard that even though Sharpie is a star on NBC, he may not be doing many if any Hawks games this year. The Hawks brass doesn’t want to hear about this thing and more than likely they’ll pay the victims off and not want to hear anything more!!! that's two guys who aren't too afraid to share their opinions, and Foley is out after this coming season. I'll bet they told him him to toe the line (and he likely will because of how good the organization has been to him) but I'll bet his lips get a little looser the closer he gets to the end... I hope they do, anyway...
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 26, 2021 21:12:42 GMT -6
lame on Jammer, but I won't miss Konroyd. he was ok between periods, but I hated when he took Eddie's spot. I feel the same, I like Jammer but won't miss Konroyd, he's to robotic. Too bad they won't add Burish but he was part of the 2010 team.
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Post by Tater on Aug 26, 2021 23:43:54 GMT -6
lame on Jammer, but I won't miss Konroyd. he was ok between periods, but I hated when he took Eddie's spot. I feel the same, I like Jammer but won't miss Konroyd, he's to robotic. Too bad they won't add Burish but he was part of the 2010 team. Same thoughts here. Jammer had some good insights from recently playing with Toews and Kane. I won't miss Konroyd either and I'd love to see Burish back on, but I know that won't happen. Burish always told it like it is.
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