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Post by BigT on Jan 28, 2022 7:30:53 GMT -6
I think she’d be the assistant GM and Mark would be the GM for a few years. Also Kane played for the Hunters in London. So there’s a lot of dots connected here. However. I don’t care about hiring the first female GM. I want the team to win. If it’s a woman who gets it going, cool. But like T-man said. She shares a lot of what Bowman fed us. But Bowman didn’t even play house-league. He sucks at doing sports. I think he only lasted because he was actually a good manager and ran a solid office. I think everyone was in line and probably liked him. He just sucked at the hockey part of it. Really bad. I think the Hawks need a real hockey guy here. Let’s not worry about trailblazing right now. Gotta get back to winning and player development. The Hawks front office reeks of inexperienced people. Like it’s downright awful what Scambo put in place. Personally. I’d rather see someone like Jay Feaster come in here and get this thing turned around. He’s a good hockey mind too. Keep someone like him for the next decade then get Toews involved. He’ll know how to win!!! They're announcing the new GM before the TDL, so would Mark step down with London to take the position? I'd love that but I don't think it'll happen. If they announce it's Meghan she won't step down in the summer to let her uncle take over. The letter people community and females will burn the UC down. And I don't care if she's the first either, just want someone who's competent. So if she's the new GM hopefully her uncles come along and help her, especially with guys to get because it's not womens hockey, like she thinks the league is going. I'm sure the Hunters wouldn't mind being around Kaner again, that 1 season feels like a lifetime ago. One thing to keep in mind. The Hunters are already way ahead of everyone else. They’ve already labeled their draft picks and have them prioritized. I know a couple of their scouts as they come around my kids team sometimes. Especially when we play either Elgin (London South) and the London Jr Knights. The London Knights won’t even take a kid that slams their stick against the boards or pouts etc. won’t even look at them. They want the best kids and they develop them. They’re amazing hockey minds. Mark built the Leaves within 3 years. Mark is so far ahead of the curve in London, if he left, the team would do exactly what he would do. They have like 3 GMs there that can fill in for anyone at anytime. We’ll run org. Now, the question is does he really want to leave that all behind? The Hawks missed the boat on the first female assistant GM as the Canucks already did that. Womens hockey is much different from mens. So I think it’d be best that if a women was going to be GM. They should really work in a successful org for the better part of a decade before anything is decided. I’m not against a women being there. But it is mens sports after all. And there’s still a loooooooong way to go before the old boys club let’s go!!! |
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Post by phill9 on Jan 28, 2022 7:51:04 GMT -6
agree. we need an experienced set of eyes, preferably one well connected in the scouting world and one that is themselves a good judge of young talent. still holding out hope that they interview Draper. I miss chatting with Drapes. He’s a cool guy and he literally paid his dues. He scouted so much jr hockey it’s not funny. He’s so cool. He’d ask me what I thought about certain players. He would be a great guy to have around. But I feel he’s locked in with Detroit. Him and Yzerman and really close. I think they just enjoy working together that much!!! So what you're saying is, that if the Hawks hire Draper, he'll be calling you and ask you about trades, drafts, etc?  |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 28, 2022 10:47:39 GMT -6
They have stated they will consider bringing in someone from outside of hockey......which is just as bad as having a bean counter run the day to day hockey operations whose only true connection to the game was his father. Does Bob Pulford have any kids that could be hired? Prince Daniel also said the new GM will answer to him, that doesn't sound good. They want another yes man, or woman. YES and the new GM will also be "the highest-ranking executive in hockey operations",they'll be no President of Hockey Opps for now BUT......it'll be a "next generation Hockey Opps department"!!!!.....LOFL!!!! They ain't figured out THIS generation yet! I couldn't have less faith in the Hawks Org at the moment.... www.nbcsports.com/chicago/blackhawks/blackhawks-ceo-danny-wirtz-provides-update-general-manager-search |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 28, 2022 11:11:47 GMT -6
Prince Daniel also said the new GM will answer to him, that doesn't sound good. They want another yes man, or woman. YES and the new GM will also be "the highest-ranking executive in hockey operations",they'll be no President of Hockey Opps for now BUT......it'll be a "next generation Hockey Opps department"!!!!.....LOFL!!!! They ain't figured out THIS generation yet! I couldn't have less faith in the Hawks Org at the moment.... www.nbcsports.com/chicago/blackhawks/blackhawks-ceo-danny-wirtz-provides-update-general-manager-searchIf they hire Mark Hunter my faith will be restored and he can handle both jobs, GM and president of hockey ops. If it's his niece we can only hope her uncles come along. |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 28, 2022 11:39:30 GMT -6
If they hire Mark Hunter my faith will be restored and he can handle both jobs, GM and president of hockey ops. If it's his niece we can only hope her uncles come along. I dunno what to make of the Org anymore and the 'Org' basically is 'Prince Daniel' and Jamie Faulkner..... www.nhl.com/blackhawks/team/jaime-faulknerWho is leading the interview process alongside 'Prince Daniel' and an 'advisory group',Jamie Faulkner might very well be qualified to run the business side of things BUT the extent of her hockey experience before joining the Org was as a 'billet family for several young players'. I know nepotism is a strong factor with the Org(often the only factor),Rocky's kid,Scotty's kid,Eddie's kids and Cheli's kid are all onboard and there's even another Crawford and King on the staff,I dunno if they're related but I wouldn't doubt it. I doubt the Hunters will want to answer to 'Prince Daniel' and Jammie Faulkner,even If a Hunter relative is promoted. |
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Post by BigT on Jan 28, 2022 13:52:06 GMT -6
I miss chatting with Drapes. He’s a cool guy and he literally paid his dues. He scouted so much jr hockey it’s not funny. He’s so cool. He’d ask me what I thought about certain players. He would be a great guy to have around. But I feel he’s locked in with Detroit. Him and Yzerman and really close. I think they just enjoy working together that much!!! So what you're saying is, that if the Hawks hire Draper, he'll be calling you and ask you about trades, drafts, etc? I think he’ll fire me on the first day!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jan 28, 2022 18:28:38 GMT -6
I miss chatting with Drapes. He’s a cool guy and he literally paid his dues. He scouted so much jr hockey it’s not funny. He’s so cool. He’d ask me what I thought about certain players. He would be a great guy to have around. But I feel he’s locked in with Detroit. Him and Yzerman and really close. I think they just enjoy working together that much!!! So what you're saying is, that if the Hawks hire Draper, he'll be calling you and ask you about trades, drafts, etc?  More importantly will Big T snag us a suite for a game from Draper? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jan 28, 2022 21:22:42 GMT -6
Our new President and GM.......... |
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Post by Tater on Jan 29, 2022 2:57:47 GMT -6
Our new President and GM..........
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Post by vadarx on Jan 29, 2022 4:31:18 GMT -6
just finished reading Powers write up on The Athletic regarding Davidson... he pretty much says Davidson will be the next GM without actually saying it. he does say he will be shocked if he isn't, though... this whole "re-thinking" of the way a hockey franchise operates sounds nice, especially after the Beach fiasco, but there is a reason most teams do it the way it has always been done... this feels like more of the same as far as the on ice product for the next few years. with NO ONE in charge with any actual hockey experience, I have a hard time seeing things going well. but, who knows, maybe KD will prove me wrong. in the meantime, for fun, I'll have to think of ways in which they'll announce Prince Daniel is leaving to go back to a different family venture once it is obvious he knows jack and shit about running a hockey club... the article for those who can access it: theathletic.com/3097217/2022/01/27/powers-kyle-davidson-seems-like-logical-choice-for-permanent-blackhawks-general-manager/ |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jan 29, 2022 9:36:18 GMT -6
Thanks Vad not what I want to hear.
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Post by phill9 on Jan 29, 2022 10:47:09 GMT -6
So what you're saying is, that if the Hawks hire Draper, he'll be calling you and ask you about trades, drafts, etc? I think he’ll fire me on the first day!!! Always ups and downs in a job.....right Big-T!  |
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Post by BigT on Jan 29, 2022 12:45:18 GMT -6
I think he’ll fire me on the first day!!! Always ups and downs in a job.....right Big-T! Especially in the world of elevating my man!!! |
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Post by BigT on Jan 29, 2022 12:50:58 GMT -6
just finished reading Powers write up on The Athletic regarding Davidson... he pretty much says Davidson will be the next GM without actually saying it. he does say he will be shocked if he isn't, though... this whole "re-thinking" of the way a hockey franchise operates sounds nice, especially after the Beach fiasco, but there is a reason most teams do it the way it has always been done... this feels like more of the same as far as the on ice product for the next few years. with NO ONE in charge with any actual hockey experience, I have a hard time seeing things going well. but, who knows, maybe KD will prove me wrong. in the meantime, for fun, I'll have to think of ways in which they'll announce Prince Daniel is leaving to go back to a different family venture once it is obvious he knows jack and shit about running a hockey club... the article for those who can access it: theathletic.com/3097217/2022/01/27/powers-kyle-davidson-seems-like-logical-choice-for-permanent-blackhawks-general-manager/I read this the other day too. Maybe it was yesterday? Not sure anymore as the days seem to melt together. I’m not shocked. We’ve been reading and saying this for some time now. But if this is the case. Why waste everyone’s time? Like, why even interview anyone else? Also. Like you’ve said. There’s no one with any hockey experience in that front office. I don’t see how that works out for them. It may end up being worse than Scambo. Which is very hard to do. Like very hard. So. We’ll see what happens. But it sure seems like he’s the guy!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 30, 2022 9:35:41 GMT -6
just finished reading Powers write up on The Athletic regarding Davidson... he pretty much says Davidson will be the next GM without actually saying it. he does say he will be shocked if he isn't, though... this whole "re-thinking" of the way a hockey franchise operates sounds nice, especially after the Beach fiasco, but there is a reason most teams do it the way it has always been done... this feels like more of the same as far as the on ice product for the next few years. with NO ONE in charge with any actual hockey experience, I have a hard time seeing things going well. but, who knows, maybe KD will prove me wrong. in the meantime, for fun, I'll have to think of ways in which they'll announce Prince Daniel is leaving to go back to a different family venture once it is obvious he knows jack and shit about running a hockey club... the article for those who can access it: theathletic.com/3097217/2022/01/27/powers-kyle-davidson-seems-like-logical-choice-for-permanent-blackhawks-general-manager/I read this the other day too. Maybe it was yesterday? Not sure anymore as the days seem to melt together. I’m not shocked. We’ve been reading and saying this for some time now. But if this is the case. Why waste everyone’s time? Like, why even interview anyone else? Also. Like you’ve said. There’s no one with any hockey experience in that front office. I don’t see how that works out for them. It may end up being worse than Scambo. Which is very hard to do. Like very hard. So. We’ll see what happens. But it sure seems like he’s the guy!!! It sounded like Pat was goin' out of his way to compliment the Lafferty/Nolander trade and KD along with it the other night,something like 'he got a NHL player for a guy who might never make the league'. I won't forget I was the guy's biggest critic but NOlander did make the league and has much better offensive #'s too...at 23. I don't mind the trade and I don't mind Lafferty one bit because he hustles and he's also more physical but let's put the trade in the proper perspective. Even I'll admit NOlander has some offensive ability and as much as I dislike his approach to the game,23yros can have a breakthrough..........Lafferty's breakthrough was scoring his first goal in two years the other night. I'm sure we'll forget about this trade in short order and I don't even consider it a bad trade to be fair but I do believe it tells us something about the FO. Trading an underachieving 23yro 1st round pick who's shown 'some' NHL ability and will be a RFA for a few more years for a 26yro 12/13th energy/depth forward still doesn't say REBUILD to me. Like I said,I don't mind Lafferty but is he the future? I'd rather see Hardman or a young guy there and I would rather have gotten a pick for NOlander. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 30, 2022 12:15:19 GMT -6
I read this the other day too. Maybe it was yesterday? Not sure anymore as the days seem to melt together. I’m not shocked. We’ve been reading and saying this for some time now. But if this is the case. Why waste everyone’s time? Like, why even interview anyone else? Also. Like you’ve said. There’s no one with any hockey experience in that front office. I don’t see how that works out for them. It may end up being worse than Scambo. Which is very hard to do. Like very hard. So. We’ll see what happens. But it sure seems like he’s the guy!!! It sounded like Pat was goin' out of his way to compliment the Lafferty/Nolander trade and KD along with it the other night,something like 'he got a NHL player for a guy who might never make the league'. I won't forget I was the guy's biggest critic but NOlander did make the league and has much better offensive #'s too...at 23. I don't mind the trade and I don't mind Lafferty one bit because he hustles and he's also more physical but let's put the trade in the proper perspective. Even I'll admit NOlander has some offensive ability and as much as I dislike his approach to the game,23yros can have a breakthrough..........Lafferty's breakthrough was scoring his first goal in two years the other night. I'm sure we'll forget about this trade in short order and I don't even consider it a bad trade to be fair but I do believe it tells us something about the FO. Trading an underachieving 23yro 1st round pick who's shown 'some' NHL ability and will be a RFA for a few more years for a 26yro 12/13th energy/depth forward still doesn't say REBUILD to me. Like I said,I don't mind Lafferty but is he the future? I'd rather see Hardman or a young guy there and I would rather have gotten a pick for NOlander. Yeah when Pat said that I thought Alex did play in the league and had ok numbers and he now has 6g-5a in 12gms since being traded. Missing a full year because of knee surgery can't be easy to come back from and I would've let him and Reichel develop together. I like Lafferty as well because he's tough to play against and he has good wheels but at 26 he's not going to get much better and despite playing on the top6 he's a 4th liner. Like you said, Nylander is 23, so this trade only looks good in the short term because Laff is in the NHL now but he's a UFA after this season. If they lose him and Nylander plays on the top6 or 9 and starts producing and Jokiharju is already a solid top4 dman, it makes the Joker trade even worse. I've mentioned this before but if they have all this build up just to name Davidson the GM I'm going to be pissed off when they didn't need to do all this saying they're interviewing people just to name him GM. Huge slap in the face to us fans. We'll soon see what direction they're going in. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jan 30, 2022 15:10:20 GMT -6
It sounded like Pat was goin' out of his way to compliment the Lafferty/Nolander trade and KD along with it the other night,something like 'he got a NHL player for a guy who might never make the league'. I won't forget I was the guy's biggest critic but NOlander did make the league and has much better offensive #'s too...at 23. I don't mind the trade and I don't mind Lafferty one bit because he hustles and he's also more physical but let's put the trade in the proper perspective. Even I'll admit NOlander has some offensive ability and as much as I dislike his approach to the game,23yros can have a breakthrough..........Lafferty's breakthrough was scoring his first goal in two years the other night. I'm sure we'll forget about this trade in short order and I don't even consider it a bad trade to be fair but I do believe it tells us something about the FO. Trading an underachieving 23yro 1st round pick who's shown 'some' NHL ability and will be a RFA for a few more years for a 26yro 12/13th energy/depth forward still doesn't say REBUILD to me. Like I said,I don't mind Lafferty but is he the future? I'd rather see Hardman or a young guy there and I would rather have gotten a pick for NOlander. Yeah when Pat said that I thought Alex did play in the league and had ok numbers and he now has 6g-5a in 12gms since being traded. Missing a full year because of knee surgery can't be easy to come back from and I would've let him and Reichel develop together. I like Lafferty as well because he's tough to play against and he has good wheels but at 26 he's not going to get much better and despite playing on the top6 he's a 4th liner. Like you said, Nylander is 23, so this trade only looks good in the short term because Laff is in the NHL now but he's a UFA after this season. If they lose him and Nylander plays on the top6 or 9 and starts producing and Jokiharju is already a solid top4 dman, it makes the Joker trade even worse. I've mentioned this before but if they have all this build up just to name Davidson the GM I'm going to be pissed off when they didn't need to do all this saying they're interviewing people just to name him GM. Huge slap in the face to us fans. We'll soon see what direction they're going in. Lafferty kind of reminds me of Desjardin when he was on the Hawks in 2015. A good 4th line depth guy working in the corners. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 31, 2022 17:23:25 GMT -6
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Post by LordKOTL on Jan 31, 2022 17:49:59 GMT -6
It sounded like Pat was goin' out of his way to compliment the Lafferty/Nolander trade and KD along with it the other night,something like 'he got a NHL player for a guy who might never make the league'. I won't forget I was the guy's biggest critic but NOlander did make the league and has much better offensive #'s too...at 23. I don't mind the trade and I don't mind Lafferty one bit because he hustles and he's also more physical but let's put the trade in the proper perspective. Even I'll admit NOlander has some offensive ability and as much as I dislike his approach to the game,23yros can have a breakthrough..........Lafferty's breakthrough was scoring his first goal in two years the other night. I'm sure we'll forget about this trade in short order and I don't even consider it a bad trade to be fair but I do believe it tells us something about the FO. Trading an underachieving 23yro 1st round pick who's shown 'some' NHL ability and will be a RFA for a few more years for a 26yro 12/13th energy/depth forward still doesn't say REBUILD to me. Like I said,I don't mind Lafferty but is he the future? I'd rather see Hardman or a young guy there and I would rather have gotten a pick for NOlander. Yeah when Pat said that I thought Alex did play in the league and had ok numbers and he now has 6g-5a in 12gms since being traded. Missing a full year because of knee surgery can't be easy to come back from and I would've let him and Reichel develop together. I like Lafferty as well because he's tough to play against and he has good wheels but at 26 he's not going to get much better and despite playing on the top6 he's a 4th liner. Like you said, Nylander is 23, so this trade only looks good in the short term because Laff is in the NHL now but he's a UFA after this season. If they lose him and Nylander plays on the top6 or 9 and starts producing and Jokiharju is already a solid top4 dman, it makes the Joker trade even worse. I've mentioned this before but if they have all this build up just to name Davidson the GM I'm going to be pissed off when they didn't need to do all this saying they're interviewing people just to name him GM. Huge slap in the face to us fans. We'll soon see what direction they're going in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Nylander's stats you quote (6G/5A-12Games) for the AHL and not the NHL? I think it's a salient point to the conversation. He did look decent enough for Rockford when he was here and I was actually surprised he didn't get another look in spite of sleepwalking through the preseason. The biggest issue for me with Alex Nylander was his failure to bring it and coast. Coming into this season he could have taken Strome's approach and showed he meant business in the preseason, but looked disinterested and Milquetoast. He may have latent talent but he never brought it to bear with any semblance of regularity--for us or Buffalo. Again: I'm surprised he didn't get a call-up given his Rockford numbers, but maybe that was a move to distance us from our Ex Beancounter GM since he was as high as kite on Nylander. Maybe with Pittsburgh he will turn it around given that their team and development program aren't complete clusterfucks like ours is, but that also brings up the point that with Joker doing well, Boqvist doing well, and a lot of other ex-blackhawks prospects doing well, maybe Nylander would have never had a chance here...ditto with Joker and possibly Boqvist. And like I mentioned before, I believe Pittsburgh needed the trade: Lafferty would have been exposed to waivers once Malkin came back. Nylander wouldn't be getting out of Rockford or WBS anyway, and given that the 'hawks are well over 5 years out in my estimation, flipping a guy like Nylander who never showed much of anything for a bottom-6 warm body won't hamstring the franchise. A pick would have been nice but whatever. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 31, 2022 19:13:05 GMT -6
Yeah when Pat said that I thought Alex did play in the league and had ok numbers and he now has 6g-5a in 12gms since being traded. Missing a full year because of knee surgery can't be easy to come back from and I would've let him and Reichel develop together. I like Lafferty as well because he's tough to play against and he has good wheels but at 26 he's not going to get much better and despite playing on the top6 he's a 4th liner. Like you said, Nylander is 23, so this trade only looks good in the short term because Laff is in the NHL now but he's a UFA after this season. If they lose him and Nylander plays on the top6 or 9 and starts producing and Jokiharju is already a solid top4 dman, it makes the Joker trade even worse. I've mentioned this before but if they have all this build up just to name Davidson the GM I'm going to be pissed off when they didn't need to do all this saying they're interviewing people just to name him GM. Huge slap in the face to us fans. We'll soon see what direction they're going in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Nylander's stats you quote (6G/5A-12Games) for the AHL and not the NHL? I think it's a salient point to the conversation. He did look decent enough for Rockford when he was here and I was actually surprised he didn't get another look in spite of sleepwalking through the preseason. The biggest issue for me with Alex Nylander was his failure to bring it and coast. Coming into this season he could have taken Strome's approach and showed he meant business in the preseason, but looked disinterested and Milquetoast. He may have latent talent but he never brought it to bear with any semblance of regularity--for us or Buffalo. Again: I'm surprised he didn't get a call-up given his Rockford numbers, but maybe that was a move to distance us from our Ex Beancounter GM since he was as high as kite on Nylander. Maybe with Pittsburgh he will turn it around given that their team and development program aren't complete clusterfucks like ours is, but that also brings up the point that with Joker doing well, Boqvist doing well, and a lot of other ex-blackhawks prospects doing well, maybe Nylander would have never had a chance here...ditto with Joker and possibly Boqvist. And like I mentioned before, I believe Pittsburgh needed the trade: Lafferty would have been exposed to waivers once Malkin came back. Nylander wouldn't be getting out of Rockford or WBS anyway, and given that the 'hawks are well over 5 years out in my estimation, flipping a guy like Nylander who never showed much of anything for a bottom-6 warm body won't hamstring the franchise. A pick would have been nice but whatever. You're right, AHL numbers but he had 8g-4a-12Pts in 23gms with Rockford and now almost a point a game in a better system. I don't blame him for being trepidatious in the pre season because of the knee surgery but he went to the AHL and didn't pout and now he's gaining confidence. I'm not defending Nylanders inconsistent play but considering they gave up Jokiharju to get him and he's a legit top4 dman, I would've waited till Nylander was at least 25yrs old. Watching young guys produce after leaving here and the Hawks not having much to show for it, especially with picks, is a sign of a bad GM and system. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 31, 2022 19:20:14 GMT -6
I like those names, much better than just Davidson, Faulkner and Wirtz. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jan 31, 2022 23:32:24 GMT -6
Something about this whole processes I just dont trust. So we have a soccer guy a rugby guy, a hall of fame guy who has never put together a team , a between periods commentator. Hey i will listen to whatever Hossa has to say about hockey. And who dosnt need a rugby guy. End of the day Eddie is the only one who know how this all kinda work. Also anyone know if assistance GMs can interview? With saying that I still think a youngster should be able to come in and blow them away whit his plan for the team. I really hope this all works out. But you know what they say If it wasnt for disappointment i wouldnt have any appointment.
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Post by vadarx on Jan 31, 2022 23:50:57 GMT -6
Something about this whole processes I just dont trust. So we have a soccer guy a rugby guy, a hall of fame guy who has never put together a team , a between periods commentator. Hey i will listen to whatever Hossa has to say about hockey. And who dosnt need a rugby guy. End of the day Eddie is the only one who know how this all kinda work. Also anyone know if assistance GMs can interview? With saying that I still think a youngster should be able to come in and blow them away whit his plan for the team. I really hope this all works out. But you know what they say If it wasnt for disappointment i wouldnt have any appointment. 3 more people who already know KD. still not convinced... but we'll see... |
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Post by BigT on Feb 1, 2022 8:50:55 GMT -6
I haven’t really heard many rumours of many candidates….. if any. I’ve only heard about the ones already employed by the Hawks.
It would be nice to hear them interviewing other former GMs!!!
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 1, 2022 9:43:26 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Nylander's stats you quote (6G/5A-12Games) for the AHL and not the NHL? I think it's a salient point to the conversation. He did look decent enough for Rockford when he was here and I was actually surprised he didn't get another look in spite of sleepwalking through the preseason. The biggest issue for me with Alex Nylander was his failure to bring it and coast. Coming into this season he could have taken Strome's approach and showed he meant business in the preseason, but looked disinterested and Milquetoast. He may have latent talent but he never brought it to bear with any semblance of regularity--for us or Buffalo. Again: I'm surprised he didn't get a call-up given his Rockford numbers, but maybe that was a move to distance us from our Ex Beancounter GM since he was as high as kite on Nylander. Maybe with Pittsburgh he will turn it around given that their team and development program aren't complete clusterfucks like ours is, but that also brings up the point that with Joker doing well, Boqvist doing well, and a lot of other ex-blackhawks prospects doing well, maybe Nylander would have never had a chance here...ditto with Joker and possibly Boqvist. And like I mentioned before, I believe Pittsburgh needed the trade: Lafferty would have been exposed to waivers once Malkin came back. Nylander wouldn't be getting out of Rockford or WBS anyway, and given that the 'hawks are well over 5 years out in my estimation, flipping a guy like Nylander who never showed much of anything for a bottom-6 warm body won't hamstring the franchise. A pick would have been nice but whatever. You're right, AHL numbers but he had 8g-4a-12Pts in 23gms with Rockford and now almost a point a game in a better system. I don't blame him for being trepidatious in the pre season because of the knee surgery but he went to the AHL and didn't pout and now he's gaining confidence. I'm not defending Nylanders inconsistent play but considering they gave up Jokiharju to get him and he's a legit top4 dman, I would've waited till Nylander was at least 25yrs old. Watching young guys produce after leaving here and the Hawks not having much to show for it, especially with picks, is a sign of a bad GM and system. Maybe so with respect to his knee and having trepidations, but on the other hand the guy hasn't stuck anywhere, was regularly pressbox'ed or sent to the minors in his short career--mainly for his inconsistency and effort. In my opinion, if he was 100% healed he should have came out of the offseason with something to prove since he might not have gotten another chance--at least with Chicago. As for the rest? We have/had a bad GM and a bad system. That should be obvious over the past 5-6 years. It sucks but can we really be surprised at the outcome on how things turned out? It sucks we have nothing to show for some of our more major moves--like Joker into Lafferty, or Panarin to Saad to Zadorov to a 3rd rounder, but I think 'hawks fans are deluding themselves if they think we have a good system or had/have a good GM. Time will tell on the future of course but Stan really crippled the franchise with his moves--especially post 2015. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 1, 2022 10:10:19 GMT -6
I like those names, much better than just Davidson, Faulkner and Wirtz. ME TOO! Getting some great ex-players and Edzo involved is good with me and I like Sharpie anywhere,between the benches,in between periods or even in the booth in the future. I'd rather hear what he has to say than Lil Cubby or Chelie's kid,I'll tell ya that! I'd rather listen to Shaw than 'Skinny Jeans' too. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Feb 1, 2022 10:53:44 GMT -6
I like those names, much better than just Davidson, Faulkner and Wirtz. ME TOO! Getting some great ex-players and Edzo involved is good with me and I like Sharpie anywhere,between the benches,in between periods or even in the booth in the future. I'd rather hear what he has to say than Lil Cubby or Chelie's kid,I'll tell ya that! I'd rather listen to Shaw than 'Skinny Jeans' too. They are also enlisting a law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe to help with the search... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 2, 2022 18:01:08 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 2, 2022 18:39:04 GMT -6
Rocky didn't like hearing Kyle Beach's name lol |
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