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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 29, 2021 8:41:54 GMT -6
Thanks to vonbeck for suggesting the topic.
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 29, 2021 9:09:17 GMT -6
To me this should be 2 separate people.
One needs to be held accountable
unlike SB had both titles.
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 29, 2021 9:51:00 GMT -6
FYI
GT has decided to take a break from the boards and may not return.
He is ok and all is fine with him. He's just stepping away from the forum.
We wish him well and hope he returns with his wit and love for the game.
That is all I know for now.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Oct 29, 2021 13:38:15 GMT -6
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 29, 2021 14:02:16 GMT -6
Assuming the two jobs will be held by two people, would the President be brought on board first, and then the Pres. would hire the GM? This would mean Danny Wirtz would not be hiring the next GM?
If that's how it's done, let's hope the new Pres. knows what to look for in a GM.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Oct 29, 2021 14:39:18 GMT -6
Hawks can not be this stupid. many games you can hear Eddie praising the job the scumbag did, also word is media knew also. I dont think Eddie is that stupid. I do believe Eddie will be the one picking new president. It just wont be himself. Thanks for the update on GT glad everything is ok. |
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Post by Tater on Oct 30, 2021 0:51:25 GMT -6
FYI GT has decided to take a break from the boards and may not return. He is ok and all is fine with him. He's just stepping away from the forum. We wish him well and hope he returns with his wit and love for the game. That is all I know for now. Thank you for updating us and I'm glad he's alright. I have no idea why he would step away, but hopefully he returns soon. |
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Post by tincup on Oct 30, 2021 1:01:45 GMT -6
FYI GT has decided to take a break from the boards and may not return. He is ok and all is fine with him. He's just stepping away from the forum. We wish him well and hope he returns with his wit and love for the game. That is all I know for now. Thanks for the update. It’s good to know he’s ok. Hopefully he returns. |
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Post by Tater on Oct 30, 2021 1:03:53 GMT -6
And tell him I NEED more stats and bits and bobs too please. Dammit!  |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 30, 2021 12:23:21 GMT -6
If they do make Eddie the new GM or President I hope it's soon so we don't have to hear him rambling on in the booth.
Phillips first NHL shift the whole time Eddie was talking about Raanta when he should've been letting Pat do the play by play.
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Post by tincup on Oct 31, 2021 16:36:43 GMT -6
Heard a lot about Davidson last night, how he’s so bright, how he’d negotiated some contracts already. Might they be considering him as the official replacement? He’s only 32 but guys like Dumas and Chaka were as young or younger. Or do they go fresh and maybe go with Kevin Weekes, who would become the first black NHL GM if I’m not mistaken. He has a good hockey mind. Maybe they work a woman into an upper management spot. At this point, the franchise is going to have to signal hard to try to build back any respect and show they’re progressive. They might even revisit the decision to keep the current logo and such. They’ve gone from flagship franchise to pariah pretty quickly.
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Post by BigT on Oct 31, 2021 20:14:56 GMT -6
Heard a lot about Davidson last night, how he’s so bright, how he’d negotiated some contracts already. Might they be considering him as the official replacement? He’s only 32 but guys like Dumas and Chaka were as young or younger. Or do they go fresh and maybe go with Kevin Weekes, who would become the first black NHL GM if I’m not mistaken. He has a good hockey mind. Maybe they work a woman into an upper management spot. At this point, the franchise is going to have to signal hard to try to build back any respect and show they’re progressive. They might even revisit the decision to keep the current logo and such. They’ve gone from flagship franchise to pariah pretty quickly. I think Davidson would be a Stan clone and a yes man to Danny. It would fail on soooooo many levels. They need a president to come in and hire the right GM and coach. These are just suggestions that Dreger had mentioned and there’s probably no merit to it, but, he did he heard the Hawks want some experience due to there being none in the org. So he mentions Jeff Gorton, Jim Rutherford, and maybe even an assistant to someone in another org. Personally I pass on all of them. The team will need to be rebuilt and we need a fresh mind in here. No offense to Davidson, but he’s too young and the only experience he has is from Scam Bowman. So pass pass pass and more pass. I believe the best case scenario will be to get someone like a Hunter or Rychel in here. Guys who know the Jr ranks and have a shit ton of connections is the way to go. They have scouts from other teams telling them to watch certain guys because they got that scout the job and it was his buddy. Gotta get a guy with massive connections. I believe the Hunters and or Rychel has this. I think if Davidson pays his dues and works under a real GM, he would be next in line. So I hope the org goes in a different direction and gets a fresh set of eyes on the org!!! |
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Post by vonbeck on Oct 31, 2021 20:49:01 GMT -6
Heard a lot about Davidson last night, how he’s so bright, how he’d negotiated some contracts already. Might they be considering him as the official replacement? He’s only 32 but guys like Dumas and Chaka were as young or younger. Or do they go fresh and maybe go with Kevin Weekes, who would become the first black NHL GM if I’m not mistaken. He has a good hockey mind. Maybe they work a woman into an upper management spot. At this point, the franchise is going to have to signal hard to try to build back any respect and show they’re progressive. They might even revisit the decision to keep the current logo and such. They’ve gone from flagship franchise to pariah pretty quickly. I think Davidson would be a Stan clone and a yes man to Danny. It would fail on soooooo many levels. They need a president to come in and hire the right GM and coach. These are just suggestions that Dreger had mentioned and there’s probably no merit to it, but, he did he heard the Hawks want some experience due to there being none in the org. So he mentions Jeff Gorton, Jim Rutherford, and maybe even an assistant to someone in another org. Personally I pass on all of them. The team will need to be rebuilt and we need a fresh mind in here. No offense to Davidson, but he’s too young and the only experience he has is from Scam Bowman. So pass pass pass and more pass. I believe the best case scenario will be to get someone like a Hunter or Rychel in here. Guys who know the Jr ranks and have a shit ton of connections is the way to go. They have scouts from other teams telling them to watch certain guys because they got that scout the job and it was his buddy. Gotta get a guy with massive connections. I believe the Hunters and or Rychel has this. I think if Davidson pays his dues and works under a real GM, he would be next in line. So I hope the org goes in a different direction and gets a fresh set of eyes on the org!!! Right!? I don't like Davidson... Here's my dream team. But I don't think it'll ever happen. Now hear me out. I'd love to have Chris Drury or maybe Dougie Wilson as GM and check this out, Marian Hossa as coach. I know it's a pipe dream, but still nobody has mentioned him as a coach. The dude had the best work ethic both on the offense and on the D-4 check. He's well respected and knows hockey... What 'cha think? |
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Post by BigT on Oct 31, 2021 21:09:49 GMT -6
I think Davidson would be a Stan clone and a yes man to Danny. It would fail on soooooo many levels. They need a president to come in and hire the right GM and coach. These are just suggestions that Dreger had mentioned and there’s probably no merit to it, but, he did he heard the Hawks want some experience due to there being none in the org. So he mentions Jeff Gorton, Jim Rutherford, and maybe even an assistant to someone in another org. Personally I pass on all of them. The team will need to be rebuilt and we need a fresh mind in here. No offense to Davidson, but he’s too young and the only experience he has is from Scam Bowman. So pass pass pass and more pass. I believe the best case scenario will be to get someone like a Hunter or Rychel in here. Guys who know the Jr ranks and have a shit ton of connections is the way to go. They have scouts from other teams telling them to watch certain guys because they got that scout the job and it was his buddy. Gotta get a guy with massive connections. I believe the Hunters and or Rychel has this. I think if Davidson pays his dues and works under a real GM, he would be next in line. So I hope the org goes in a different direction and gets a fresh set of eyes on the org!!! Right!? I don't like Davidson... Here's my dream team. But I don't think it'll ever happen. Now hear me out. I'd love to have Chris Drury or maybe Dougie Wilson as GM and check this out, Marian Hossa as coach. I know it's a pipe dream, but still nobody as mentioned him as a coach. The dude had the best work ethic both on the offense and on the D-4 check. He's well respected and knows hockey... What 'cha think? I’m not sold on Drury as he’s still pretty raw. Same goes for Hossa. I just think this is a very pivotal time for the org. We need someone who’s been a GM before, either at the NHL level or Jrs. GMs of AHL are not very involved with the rosters due to the NHL clubs giving them 75% of their players. Mark Hunter literally built the Leaves. He built the London Knights time and time again. He’s been around for 25 years. Warren Rychel built 3 powerhouse teams of the course of 11 years with the Windsor Spitfires. He’s been a scout before and he’s one now. He knows how to properly evaluate talent and how to set a roster and slot players. He’s also had 3-4 of his coaches become NHL head coaches like Boughner, DJ Smith, and a few assistants in Rocky Thompson, Bob Jones etc. He and the Hunters were/are owners of their teams. So they understand the business side of it. Drury to me hasn’t done a thing yet because he’s raw and very new to it. I doubt the Rangers let him out of that role to come here. I doubt he’d even think about this job in Chicago. He’s the GM of the Rangers and I think he’s thrilled to be there. I just don’t think it’d be wise to take two very raw guys and have them try to make this work. I think Hossa should be an assistant coach for a minimum 4-5 years before making the jump. However. I love that you’re thinking outside the box and not say to promote Davidson, a 33 year old guy and we have a 34 year old coach. It would be like asking the Detroit lions to win a game. Just not gonna work out. Another guy that I’ve talked about over the years is Kris Draper. I’ve met him many times and he’s literally paid his dues. For the past 7-8 years he’s honed his craft and has traveled across many arenas in the OHL and helped scout a lot of players for the Wings. He’s a huge part of the rebuild. So I think going after guys that have really paid their dues and are ready to take the next step would be ok with me. Just not a guy like Stan who did not much scouting, and doesn’t even know what offside is. We need a hockey guy. And Davidson as of now just isn’t that. I do hope they bring in guys like Hossa as an assistant. I also love that Kunitz is an assistant. He played the game the right way and would be a fine head coach one day!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 1, 2021 6:48:59 GMT -6
As much as I love what Hossa did for the team I don't think he wants anything to do with coaching here. I believe he loves his life in Slovakia with his family and I think he opened a his own business. From Wiki: "Hossa also owns his own company called Hoss Corp located in Trenčín, Slovakia. His company includes a non-profit organization, a sports complex, and apartment complexes that are coming soon. Hoss Heros, which is the non-profit organization, assembles charities and aims to improve the community especially in young athletes. The Hoss Sports Center offers a wide variety of activities where families could come to enjoy their day. This complex includes a 9-hole golf course, tennis courts, and a beach area where beach volleyball and team building events are held. The apartments that are currently being planned out are going to draw more people into the city. It will have its own area code as well." hosscorp.sk/en/A link to his website. |
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Post by Tater on Nov 1, 2021 9:22:06 GMT -6
Cool stuff. Thanks for posting it Tman.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 1, 2021 9:30:41 GMT -6
Cool stuff. Thanks for posting it Tman. I hope he gets the investors in place to complete the entire project. Maybe when Chara retires he can add his fame and influence to the project. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 1, 2021 22:43:12 GMT -6
I think Davidson would be a Stan clone and a yes man to Danny. It would fail on soooooo many levels. They need a president to come in and hire the right GM and coach. These are just suggestions that Dreger had mentioned and there’s probably no merit to it, but, he did he heard the Hawks want some experience due to there being none in the org. So he mentions Jeff Gorton, Jim Rutherford, and maybe even an assistant to someone in another org. Personally I pass on all of them. The team will need to be rebuilt and we need a fresh mind in here. No offense to Davidson, but he’s too young and the only experience he has is from Scam Bowman. So pass pass pass and more pass. I believe the best case scenario will be to get someone like a Hunter or Rychel in here. Guys who know the Jr ranks and have a shit ton of connections is the way to go. They have scouts from other teams telling them to watch certain guys because they got that scout the job and it was his buddy. Gotta get a guy with massive connections. I believe the Hunters and or Rychel has this. I think if Davidson pays his dues and works under a real GM, he would be next in line. So I hope the org goes in a different direction and gets a fresh set of eyes on the org!!! Right!? I don't like Davidson... Here's my dream team. But I don't think it'll ever happen. Now hear me out. I'd love to have Chris Drury or maybe Dougie Wilson as GM and check this out, Marian Hossa as coach. I know it's a pipe dream, but still nobody has mentioned him as a coach. The dude had the best work ethic both on the offense and on the D-4 check. He's well respected and knows hockey... What 'cha think? If we are throwing out dream coaches I want Ruutu ! |
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Post by squishy24 on Nov 2, 2021 14:35:06 GMT -6
what about the Gorton guy? (the ex-Rangers GM). he was undeservingly fired, IMO
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 2, 2021 15:36:20 GMT -6
what about the Gorton guy? (the ex-Rangers GM). he was undeservingly fired, IMO He's busy fishing....  |
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 4, 2021 8:07:26 GMT -6
what about the Gorton guy? (the ex-Rangers GM). he was undeservingly fired, IMO He's busy fishing.... Why bring the Isles into this? |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Nov 4, 2021 18:12:05 GMT -6
Right!? I don't like Davidson... Here's my dream team. But I don't think it'll ever happen. Now hear me out. I'd love to have Chris Drury or maybe Dougie Wilson as GM and check this out, Marian Hossa as coach. I know it's a pipe dream, but still nobody has mentioned him as a coach. The dude had the best work ethic both on the offense and on the D-4 check. He's well respected and knows hockey... What 'cha think? If we are throwing out dream coaches I want Ruutu ! Tuomo |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Nov 4, 2021 18:14:15 GMT -6
what about the Gorton guy? (the ex-Rangers GM). he was undeservingly fired, IMO I actually saw a report the Hawks may be looking at him, I think it was on theBlackhawks hockey thread on Hockeybuzz.com. He was a possible option. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 4, 2021 21:12:53 GMT -6
If we are throwing out dream coaches I want Ruutu ! Tuomo THE ONE AND ONLY. |
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Post by mvr on Nov 5, 2021 21:22:39 GMT -6
I have another coaching name to throw into the mix. Bob Hartley is presently working in the KHL and undoubtedly would relish another opportunity.
He is a former Jack Adams winner, and he also won a Stanley Cup in Colorado (with really the only quality team of talent he coached in the NHL, having worked in low-rent situations in Atlanta and Calgary).
His track record outside the NHL is good. Compared most of the other names being mentioned (Hitchcock, Boudreau, Tortorella etc), Hartley is younger (born in 1960).
Ideally, my preference would be to find a younger coach with a strong track record in the minor pros/junior leagues and some new ideas. It might be hard, however, to convince a good one to take this job. Of the retreads available, Hartley might be a solid stopgap. Rockford also could use a better developmental coach.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 5, 2021 22:37:04 GMT -6
I have another coaching name to throw into the mix. Bob Hartley is presently working in the KHL and undoubtedly would relish another opportunity. He is a former Jack Adams winner, and he also won a Stanley Cup in Colorado (with really the only quality team of talent he coached in the NHL, having worked in low-rent situations in Atlanta and Calgary). His track record outside the NHL is good. Compared most of the other names being mentioned (Hitchcock, Boudreau, Tortorella etc), Hartley is younger (born in 1960). Ideally, my preference would be to find a younger coach with a strong track record in the minor pros/junior leagues and some new ideas. It might be hard, however, to convince a good one to take this job. Of the retreads available, Hartley might be a solid stopgap. Rockford also could use a better developmental coach. an interesting suggestion, but I'd pass on him. his only success in the 'chel was with a loaded Avs team. besides, a GM needs to be hired first. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 6, 2021 7:15:29 GMT -6
I have another coaching name to throw into the mix. Bob Hartley is presently working in the KHL and undoubtedly would relish another opportunity. He is a former Jack Adams winner, and he also won a Stanley Cup in Colorado (with really the only quality team of talent he coached in the NHL, having worked in low-rent situations in Atlanta and Calgary). His track record outside the NHL is good. Compared most of the other names being mentioned (Hitchcock, Boudreau, Tortorella etc), Hartley is younger (born in 1960). Ideally, my preference would be to find a younger coach with a strong track record in the minor pros/junior leagues and some new ideas. It might be hard, however, to convince a good one to take this job. Of the retreads available, Hartley might be a solid stopgap. Rockford also could use a better developmental coach. an interesting suggestion, but I'd pass on him. his only success in the 'chel was with a loaded Avs team. besides, a GM needs to be hired first. And a president before that. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Nov 6, 2021 8:44:09 GMT -6
Walking the dog after game I thought about this most of walk. They need to do all this during season when most good candidates have a job. So there is the possibility this is not fixed until after season.
Next who is conducting the interviewing for the President position ?? This is one big mess with really no one to fix it, at the end of the day the only hockey guy they know is Eddie.
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Post by hawks27 on Nov 6, 2021 10:31:14 GMT -6
Anything to get Eddie out of the booth, with his "I am not a 'homer' announcer" stuff would be great. I don't want a guy to be a "homer," but he goes the other way to extremes.
His support for the coincidental penalties on Saad and the Red Wing who was mugging him while Saad was on his back in front of the team bench (playoffs years ago) was total bs. The call negated a Blackhawk goal in OT that took place as the mugging was happening. Eddie couldn't hide his excitement to say that the call was the correct one.
That is the play that has forever made me an "anti-Eddie in the booth" guy.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 6, 2021 12:52:17 GMT -6
Anything to get Eddie out of the booth, with his "I am not a 'homer' announcer" stuff would be great. I don't want a guy to be a "homer," but he goes the other way to extremes. His support for the coincidental penalties on Saad and the Red Wing who was mugging him while Saad was on his back in front of the team bench (playoffs years ago) was total bs. The call negated a Blackhawk goal in OT that took place as the mugging was happening. Eddie couldn't hide his excitement to say that the call was the correct one. That is the play that has forever made me an "anti-Eddie in the booth" guy. Yeah that was brutal and now he just rambles on during the play. I'd rather hear him in press conferences as the gm or president. He's local and actually played the game plus he's respected around the league, they should offer him a position now and hopefully he fires Colliton. |
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