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Post by TomO on Nov 6, 2021 17:47:10 GMT -6
I have no idea for the next President but for the GM someone young and upcoming from either the Stevie Y. tree or the Skaic tree in Colorado. They have to break up everything except the European scouts.
As to Eddie O., with what he makes with the Hawks and TNT announcing does anyone really think the Hawks would match+ those numbers? There are a few NBA and MLB names that are up and coming executives who might be able to turn this team around.
But, Hawks please don’t pick NHL retreads.
Interim coach, I would have thought Marc Crawford but not really disappointed that it will be King.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 6, 2021 18:06:26 GMT -6
I have no idea for the next President but for the GM someone young and upcoming from either the Stevie Y. tree or the Skaic tree in Colorado. They have to break up everything except the European scouts. As to Eddie O., with what he makes with the Hawks and TNT announcing does anyone really think the Hawks would match+ those numbers? There are a few NBA and MLB names that are up and coming executives who might be able to turn this team around. But, Hawks please don’t pick NHL retreads. Interim coach, I would have thought Marc Crawford but not really disappointed that it will be King. preferably Yzerman.
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Post by vonbeck on Nov 6, 2021 19:12:05 GMT -6
I have no idea for the next President but for the GM someone young and upcoming from either the Stevie Y. tree or the Skaic tree in Colorado. They have to break up everything except the European scouts. As to Eddie O., with what he makes with the Hawks and TNT announcing does anyone really think the Hawks would match+ those numbers? There are a few NBA and MLB names that are up and coming executives who might be able to turn this team around. But, Hawks please don’t pick NHL retreads. Interim coach, I would have thought Marc Crawford but not really disappointed that it will be King. preferably Yzerman. Yzerman is very intriguing...
But on that note what about Babcock as coach? I know, I know he's been "mean" to his players, but that dudes track record is amazing. I mean this is hockey put your big-boy pants on and suck it up players. Maybe that's what this team needs. In today's day and age I highly doubt it would happen. Just a thought...
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Post by vadarx on Nov 6, 2021 20:00:12 GMT -6
Yzerman is very intriguing...
But on that note what about Babcock as coach? I know, I know he's been "mean" to his players, but that dudes track record is amazing. I mean this is hockey put your big-boy pants on and suck it up players. Maybe that's what this team needs. In today's day and age I highly doubt it would happen. Just a thought...
pass. although he might do better with a team like this one.
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Post by vonbeck on Nov 6, 2021 20:11:03 GMT -6
Yzerman is very intriguing...
But on that note what about Babcock as coach? I know, I know he's been "mean" to his players, but that dudes track record is amazing. I mean this is hockey put your big-boy pants on and suck it up players. Maybe that's what this team needs. In today's day and age I highly doubt it would happen. Just a thought...
pass. although he might do better with a team like this one. Not saying I disagree with ya bud. But just out of curiosity, Why?
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 6, 2021 20:41:29 GMT -6
Yzerman is very intriguing...
But on that note what about Babcock as coach? I know, I know he's been "mean" to his players, but that dudes track record is amazing. I mean this is hockey put your big-boy pants on and suck it up players. Maybe that's what this team needs. In today's day and age I highly doubt it would happen. Just a thought...
pass. although he might do better with a team like this one. What do you mean pass?
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Post by vadarx on Nov 6, 2021 21:04:01 GMT -6
pass. although he might do better with a team like this one. Not saying I disagree with ya bud. But just out of curiosity, Why? I don't care for his shtick. he was a good coach a decade ago. he failed miserably in Toronto. seems like he isn't the coach he used to be... that being said, he isn't that old and perhaps the meat grinder in Toronta was more than he could handle. or maybe it was more he had a skilled team there that didn't want to play his demanding style. on second thought, he actually might be just the kind of coach we need around these parts for the next few seasons...
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Post by vonbeck on Nov 6, 2021 21:31:15 GMT -6
Not saying I disagree with ya bud. But just out of curiosity, Why? I don't care for his shtick. he was a good coach a decade ago. he failed miserably in Toronto. seems like he isn't the coach he used to be... that being said, he isn't that old and perhaps the meat grinder in Toronta was more than he could handle. or maybe it was more he had a skilled team there that didn't want to play his demanding style. on second thought, he actually might be just the kind of coach we need around these parts for the next few seasons... Fair enough pal. And I do kinda agree with ya. But you can't deny his record even in Toronto. I would not say he failed there, yeah he lost in the playoffs but still he got 'em there. And if you look at his record even with the Leafs, 69 his first year, then 95, 105, 100 points. Not bad. Maybe these kids need tough love. I don't know. But like I said before, I don't think his style would work in today's day and age, because you know "wokeness". When I played hockey I sometimes needed a coach to get up in my grill and say "if you don't get your shit together I'll bench you"...
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Post by vadarx on Nov 6, 2021 23:20:11 GMT -6
I don't care for his shtick. he was a good coach a decade ago. he failed miserably in Toronto. seems like he isn't the coach he used to be... that being said, he isn't that old and perhaps the meat grinder in Toronta was more than he could handle. or maybe it was more he had a skilled team there that didn't want to play his demanding style. on second thought, he actually might be just the kind of coach we need around these parts for the next few seasons... Fair enough pal. And I do kinda agree with ya. But you can't deny his record even in Toronto. I would not say he failed there, yeah he lost in the playoffs but still he got 'em there. And if you look at his record even with the Leafs, 69 his first year, then 95, 105, 100 points. Not bad. Maybe these kids need tough love. I don't know. But like I said before, I don't think his style would work in today's day and age, because you know "wokeness". When I played hockey I sometimes needed a coach to get up in my grill and say "if you don't get your shit together I'll bench you"... he would sure be the opposite of what they've grown accustomed to! we will see what happens. the offseason is going to be awfully interesting, that much is for sure...
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Post by Tater on Nov 7, 2021 1:55:18 GMT -6
Anything to get Eddie out of the booth, with his "I am not a 'homer' announcer" stuff would be great. I don't want a guy to be a "homer," but he goes the other way to extremes. His support for the coincidental penalties on Saad and the Red Wing who was mugging him while Saad was on his back in front of the team bench (playoffs years ago) was total bs. The call negated a Blackhawk goal in OT that took place as the mugging was happening. Eddie couldn't hide his excitement to say that the call was the correct one. That is the play that has forever made me an "anti-Eddie in the booth" guy. I wish I could "like" this twice.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 7, 2021 8:38:12 GMT -6
I don't care for his shtick. he was a good coach a decade ago. he failed miserably in Toronto. seems like he isn't the coach he used to be... that being said, he isn't that old and perhaps the meat grinder in Toronta was more than he could handle. or maybe it was more he had a skilled team there that didn't want to play his demanding style. on second thought, he actually might be just the kind of coach we need around these parts for the next few seasons... Fair enough pal. And I do kinda agree with ya. But you can't deny his record even in Toronto. I would not say he failed there, yeah he lost in the playoffs but still he got 'em there. And if you look at his record even with the Leafs, 69 his first year, then 95, 105, 100 points. Not bad. Maybe these kids need tough love. I don't know. But like I said before, I don't think his style would work in today's day and age, because you know "wokeness". When I played hockey I sometimes needed a coach to get up in my grill and say "if you don't get your shit together I'll bench you"... You can say "if you don't get your shit together I'll bench you" without being a total douche too..... www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/article-mike-babcocks-reputation-hasnt-just-taken-a-hit-its-now-a-writeoff/I didn't hear Crawford's name in the list of AC's fired so maybe they keep him and just let kick guys again.......that tough enough? Players never wanted to suffer the "he was just okay" wrath from Q but I don't know if I ever heard any ex-player bash the guy with the exception of Weise after he left over playing time. Weise potted 18 goals over his next four years,not sure if he liked any of his next HC's either.
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Post by vanken on Nov 7, 2021 14:07:14 GMT -6
Yzerman is very intriguing...
But on that note what about Babcock as coach? I know, I know he's been "mean" to his players, but that dudes track record is amazing. I mean this is hockey put your big-boy pants on and suck it up players. Maybe that's what this team needs. In today's day and age I highly doubt it would happen. Just a thought...
If the Hawks can hire a president, then hire a GM who wants to bring in Babcock, they will have to wait for a few months more, as he is committed to coaching in Saskatoon until March. www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/longform/inside-mike-babcocks-unexpected-return-to-coaching/
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 1, 2021 18:14:12 GMT -6
Has anyone heard of any "progress" on the search for Prez and GM yet?
I hear a lot from the Habs search and it's only been a couple days.
Seems like nobody is beating down the Wirtz's door applying for the jobs.
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2021 18:48:01 GMT -6
Has anyone heard of any "progress" on the search for Prez and GM yet? I hear a lot from the Habs search and it's only been a couple days. Seems like nobody is beating down the Wirtz's door applying for the jobs. I heard a weeeee bit the other day. It had to do with the Habs also. On TSN Dreger said that the Hawks will probably ride out the year and wait till the off-season to see who is available then. The Habs will likely hire someone (Obviously a Frenchman) shortly. So you’re basically down to one guy. Patrick Roy!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 1, 2021 19:22:16 GMT -6
Has anyone heard of any "progress" on the search for Prez and GM yet? I hear a lot from the Habs search and it's only been a couple days. Seems like nobody is beating down the Wirtz's door applying for the jobs. I heard a weeeee bit the other day. It had to do with the Habs also. On TSN Dreger said that the Hawks will probably ride out the year and wait till the off-season to see who is available then. The Habs will likely hire someone (Obviously a Frenchman) shortly. So you’re basically down to one guy. Patrick Roy!!! I thought I heard the other day a couple guys withdrew or denied interest in the job.
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2021 19:46:09 GMT -6
I heard a weeeee bit the other day. It had to do with the Habs also. On TSN Dreger said that the Hawks will probably ride out the year and wait till the off-season to see who is available then. The Habs will likely hire someone (Obviously a Frenchman) shortly. So you’re basically down to one guy. Patrick Roy!!! I thought I heard the other day a couple guys withdrew or denied interest in the job. I personally never heard that. But it wouldn’t surprise me. I think what’s happening is the Wirtz’s are gonna say they have exhausted all options. And Danny will become the Prez, and Davidson will be the GM. I almost guarantee it. I know someone who was interested in it and they won’t even interview him. And he’s had a shit ton of success at the Jr level. So I’d have to think it’s Davidsons job at this point!!!
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Post by Tater on Dec 2, 2021 1:35:15 GMT -6
Has anyone heard of any "progress" on the search for Prez and GM yet? I hear a lot from the Habs search and it's only been a couple days. Seems like nobody is beating down the Wirtz's door applying for the jobs. And what about the Strome trade rumors.
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Post by BigT on Dec 2, 2021 7:20:40 GMT -6
Has anyone heard of any "progress" on the search for Prez and GM yet? I hear a lot from the Habs search and it's only been a couple days. Seems like nobody is beating down the Wirtz's door applying for the jobs. And what about the Strome trade rumors. I could be wrong here. But I see no use in trading him now. His value is at an all time, and with him making 3 million. He’s almost unmoveable. I don’t see how a team is willing to take on that much salary for a guy who has a tough time cracking a bottom teams lineup. I think he may be here for a while!!!
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Post by steamer on Dec 2, 2021 9:39:56 GMT -6
I thought I heard the other day a couple guys withdrew or denied interest in the job. I personally never heard that. But it wouldn’t surprise me. I think what’s happening is the Wirtz’s are gonna say they have exhausted all options. And Danny will become the Prez, and Davidson will be the GM. I almost guarantee it. I know someone who was interested in it and they won’t even interview him. And he’s had a shit ton of success at the Jr level. So I’d have to think it’s Davidsons job at this point!!! Can this work? Even if they personally are not the most hockey savvy, can they have reliable folks around them to rebuild this team?
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2021 9:43:28 GMT -6
Trade Strome to the Rangers so he can play with his brother, and send back Panarin to us and they retain 1/2 salary for life.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 2, 2021 17:57:31 GMT -6
I thought I heard the other day a couple guys withdrew or denied interest in the job. I personally never heard that. But it wouldn’t surprise me. I think what’s happening is the Wirtz’s are gonna say they have exhausted all options. And Danny will become the Prez, and Davidson will be the GM. I almost guarantee it. I know someone who was interested in it and they won’t even interview him. And he’s had a shit ton of success at the Jr level. So I’d have to think it’s Davidsons job at this point!!! T I think you right on this just crazy, so you will get President who agrees with Davidsons vision just crazy and backwards.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 2, 2021 18:08:50 GMT -6
If they keep the none hockey guys as President and GM I'm seriously thinking of giving up on this franchise after almost 40yrs of loyalty.
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Post by BigT on Dec 14, 2021 7:15:25 GMT -6
I have to think the Hawks are just letting things be. I think they’re seriously looking at the status quo of Danny and Davidson to run the ship. I’m not sure that gets it done. I feel the Wirtz’s have a hard time listening to real people. I think that they like yes men and they hold the final say. Davidson is probably going through a test period to recognize his loyalty and commitment to the Wirtz’s. Not necessarily his hockey acumen.
We seen seen at least 2 new presidents coming in to the league. Those teams didn’t wait too long. They’ve got the top piece to the org replaced immediately. While the Hawks just look at themselves and wonder how great they are!!!
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Post by hsbob on Dec 14, 2021 9:03:30 GMT -6
I have to think the Hawks are just letting things be. I think they’re seriously looking at the status quo of Danny and Davidson to run the ship. I’m not sure that gets it done. I feel the Wirtz’s have a hard time listening to real people. I think that they like yes men and they hold the final say. Davidson is probably going through a test period to recognize his loyalty and commitment to the Wirtz’s. Not necessarily his hockey acumen. We seen seen at least 2 new presidents coming in to the league. Those teams didn’t wait too long. They’ve got the top piece to the org replaced immediately. While the Hawks just look at themselves and wonder how great they are!!! As a guy who's gettin' a little older himself,I gotta think Rocky needs to worry about the Hawks less every year. The other business interests along with getting away clean with their "we knew nothing of the scandal" defense and a still unsettled promised settlement might see Rocky distance himself from Daniel's team and it is Danial's team and I said that the day he was named interim Prince in waiting. I might be wrong but I feel SB and Q both get reinstated next year and I won't be surprised to see Q back behind the Cats bench and wait for it..........SB back in the Hawk's FO? Prince Daniel seems to have a big affinity with DUMBASS,he's called him a "fellow visionary",he went miles out of his way to soften the blows from the report and pointed it more towards McD and Q for a reason. He said "the Stan Bowman we know today would have made a different decision",'paraphrasing'.......so beware the guy who tells you how he feels. If Rocky is still involved at all,remember Scotty might still have his ear too.......he always did and SB woulda been the GM for years more w/o the scandal.
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Post by steamer on Dec 14, 2021 9:24:45 GMT -6
I have to think the Hawks are just letting things be. I think they’re seriously looking at the status quo of Danny and Davidson to run the ship. I’m not sure that gets it done. I feel the Wirtz’s have a hard time listening to real people. I think that they like yes men and they hold the final say. Davidson is probably going through a test period to recognize his loyalty and commitment to the Wirtz’s. Not necessarily his hockey acumen. We seen seen at least 2 new presidents coming in to the league. Those teams didn’t wait too long. They’ve got the top piece to the org replaced immediately. While the Hawks just look at themselves and wonder how great they are!!! As a guy who's gettin' a little older himself,I gotta think Rocky needs to worry about the Hawks less every year. The other business interests along with getting away clean with their "we knew nothing of the scandal" defense and a still unsettled promised settlement might see Rocky distance himself from Daniel's team and it is Danial's team and I said that the day he was named interim Prince in waiting. I might be wrong but I feel SB and Q both get reinstated next year and I won't be surprised to see Q back behind the Cats bench and wait for it..........SB back in the Hawk's FO? Prince Daniel seems to have a big affinity with DUMBASS,he's called him a "fellow visionary",he went miles out of his way to soften the blows from the report and pointed it more towards McD and Q for a reason. He said "the Stan Bowman we know today would have made a different decision",'paraphrasing'.......so beware the guy who tells you how he feels. If Rocky is still involved at all,remember Scotty might still have his ear too.......he always did and SB woulda been the GM for years more w/o the scandal. What a step backwards that would be! On this one I really hope you’re wrong.
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Post by phill9 on Dec 14, 2021 10:04:26 GMT -6
I have to think the Hawks are just letting things be. I think they’re seriously looking at the status quo of Danny and Davidson to run the ship. I’m not sure that gets it done. I feel the Wirtz’s have a hard time listening to real people. I think that they like yes men and they hold the final say. Davidson is probably going through a test period to recognize his loyalty and commitment to the Wirtz’s. Not necessarily his hockey acumen. We seen seen at least 2 new presidents coming in to the league. Those teams didn’t wait too long. They’ve got the top piece to the org replaced immediately. While the Hawks just look at themselves and wonder how great they are!!! As a guy who's gettin' a little older himself,I gotta think Rocky needs to worry about the Hawks less every year. The other business interests along with getting away clean with their "we knew nothing of the scandal" defense and a still unsettled promised settlement might see Rocky distance himself from Daniel's team and it is Danial's team and I said that the day he was named interim Prince in waiting. I might be wrong but I feel SB and Q both get reinstated next year and I won't be surprised to see Q back behind the Cats bench and wait for it.......... SB back in the Hawk's FO? Prince Daniel seems to have a big affinity with DUMBASS,he's called him a "fellow visionary",he went miles out of his way to soften the blows from the report and pointed it more towards McD and Q for a reason. He said "the Stan Bowman we know today would have made a different decision",'paraphrasing'.......so beware the guy who tells you how he feels. If Rocky is still involved at all,remember Scotty might still have his ear too.......he always did and SB woulda been the GM for years more w/o the scandal. Well if Stan comes back.....I'm sure he could convince Colliton to return as well to continue the revolutionary direction they were moving in.
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Post by hsbob on Dec 14, 2021 10:55:39 GMT -6
As a guy who's gettin' a little older himself,I gotta think Rocky needs to worry about the Hawks less every year. The other business interests along with getting away clean with their "we knew nothing of the scandal" defense and a still unsettled promised settlement might see Rocky distance himself from Daniel's team and it is Danial's team and I said that the day he was named interim Prince in waiting. I might be wrong but I feel SB and Q both get reinstated next year and I won't be surprised to see Q back behind the Cats bench and wait for it..........SB back in the Hawk's FO? Prince Daniel seems to have a big affinity with DUMBASS,he's called him a "fellow visionary",he went miles out of his way to soften the blows from the report and pointed it more towards McD and Q for a reason. He said "the Stan Bowman we know today would have made a different decision",'paraphrasing'.......so beware the guy who tells you how he feels. If Rocky is still involved at all,remember Scotty might still have his ear too.......he always did and SB woulda been the GM for years more w/o the scandal. What a step backwards that would be! On this one I really hope you’re wrong. ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by hsbob on Dec 14, 2021 11:07:52 GMT -6
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Post by Tater on Dec 14, 2021 12:03:36 GMT -6
A game or two ago, during an intermission Charlie Romeliotus (sp?) mentioned that the search for new front office people was in high gear and people were being interviewed. He didn't mention which position, but it did sound like they were shopping.
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Post by vadarx on Dec 14, 2021 14:00:50 GMT -6
I feel like they are waiting for the settlement to be reached before they make/announce any other moves.
coming out with press about new people being hired before the settlement is announced will just result in more talk about the settlement (or lack thereof). if they wait until after, they can sell the hope of new eyes improving the team...
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