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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 29, 2024 10:35:17 GMT -6
John mustard to the hawks
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Post by BigT on Jun 29, 2024 10:35:55 GMT -6
Gotta think the Bolts are making room for Stamkos. They’ve made a lot of cap space by dealing Sergachev and Jeanot!!! has to be a that They have to. I think it’s sad the Hawks couldn’t keep their stars around till the end. I hope Stamkos stays there. I really do. He’s not gonna help any other team do anything special. Even if he’s just a novelty player for the next 5 years. The Bolts have a great situation with him. He’s only 34. So if he signs a front loaded deal, he can retire at the end with no penalty. It won’t be a 35+ deal. So they could technically circumvent the cap. Give him an 8 year 42 million deal. But pay him 10 million a year over the first 3 years. Then 2.4 the next 5 years!!! |
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Post by tincup on Jun 29, 2024 10:37:03 GMT -6
Take Jecho next for the helluva it.
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Post by BigT on Jun 29, 2024 10:37:24 GMT -6
Vadar and JayZ were right. Hawks too Mistard. I hope he becomes a superstar!!!
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 29, 2024 10:45:10 GMT -6
Spellacy to the hawks
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Post by BigT on Jun 29, 2024 10:46:10 GMT -6
Spellacy from my Spits. Doesn’t bring much offense at this point. Had 21 goals. But he’s the fastest skater in the OHL. Voted by the coaches.
He finished top 5 in almost every category at the draft combine.
I doubt he’ll be anything special. But he’s a high motor guy and could fill a role perfectly!!!
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 29, 2024 10:53:40 GMT -6
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 29, 2024 11:00:10 GMT -6
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 29, 2024 11:13:38 GMT -6
Spellacy from my Spits. Doesn’t bring much offense at this point. Had 21 goals. But he’s the fastest skater in the OHL. Voted by the coaches. He finished top 5 in almost every category at the draft combine. I doubt he’ll be anything special. But he’s a high motor guy and could fill a role perfectly!!! He was someone I wanted big and fast high ceiling maybe. Going for speed today. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 29, 2024 11:22:21 GMT -6
Jack Pridham to the hawks
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Post by 2old4this on Jun 29, 2024 11:22:26 GMT -6
Reasons to be cheerful, part 3 |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 29, 2024 11:23:20 GMT -6
Not gonna lie getting a kick out of the KD hate. I really like this years draft. I like KD moving up to get his guys are they the right guys find out in 5 years. Players aways sound so good. Many people will be keeping track of what Ivan and Hage do.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 29, 2024 11:25:40 GMT -6
Not gonna lie with all the speed and dog with a bone players would have loved to seen a couple of scrimmages at Prospect camp.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 29, 2024 11:27:51 GMT -6
Spellacy from my Spits. Doesn’t bring much offense at this point. Had 21 goals. But he’s the fastest skater in the OHL. Voted by the coaches. He finished top 5 in almost every category at the draft combine. I doubt he’ll be anything special. But he’s a high motor guy and could fill a role perfectly!!! He was someone I wanted big and fast high ceiling maybe. Going for speed today. Speed and size, all three forwards in the 3rd round are at least 6'1". Spellacy listed at 6'2" 195lbs HockeyDB, 6'3" 201lbs EliteProspects. Started slow but his finish and combine helped him move up, 6g-4a in his last 10gms. |
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Post by cudaman on Jun 29, 2024 12:02:14 GMT -6
I was so excited for this draft for months, but I feel KD and staff blew it. I hope I’m wrong but this draft feels like something the Chicago Bears used to do.
Trade up and waste draft capital for players rated much lower than were they were projected and most likely would have still been there. Most. importantly not taking the best available with the number two. I guess I hope for another year of sucking to get a pick in the top five next year.
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Post by ukhawk on Jun 29, 2024 12:30:49 GMT -6
If Boisvert was always the target with the second 1st round pick, wasn't there a rumour that Vegas were looking at him and we made the NYI trade to jump ahead of them?
I quite like this draft, think we got what we needed, RHD, 2LC, bit of size in offense.
Hopefully they all flourish.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 12:35:32 GMT -6
patience, my friend. I kinda get what you are saying, as I didn't love our draft either, but I also think it has a fair amount of potential. remember, though, that this wasn't supposed to a great draft. the next two should be better, I believe, and we will have 8 more 1st and 2nds in those... if you look back at the building of The Run, there were multiple drafts that we got one guy out of. I believe you yourself have said that is the norm. if Levshunov hits and is a top 4 guy on the next Run, it is a win. if Boisvert ends up being a 2LC, it is a win. you've also said KK might be the guy anyway, so we'll either have a 1a and 1b, a top guy and top 4 or a top guy and a bust but who cares cuz we already have our guy in KK and hopefully one of the other two contributes. we're in this thing, man. I feel like maybe we see someone get some term to play here come Monday, also. with the prospect pool soon to be running over, but a few years away, we should have room for a couple guys when can move latter on if need be. it ain't happening overnight, but we're making progress, imo. If Boisvert does end up being a 2C, would this push Nazar to wing? he is already a wing, imo, but we will see. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 12:37:27 GMT -6
I’ve just seen 4-5 big Right shot D get drafted in the early 2nd round. That’s the smart thing to do. Then develop them. There’s a lot more RHD in this draft than I ever thought!!! that was why I thought Demidov was the better pick, lots of RHD in this draft that could be had later on... |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 12:38:41 GMT -6
John mustard to the hawks dun dun dunnn lol. what do I win this time? |
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Post by BigT on Jun 29, 2024 12:50:49 GMT -6
If Boisvert was always the target with the second 1st round pick, wasn't there a rumour that Vegas were looking at him and we made the NYI trade to jump ahead of them? I quite like this draft, think we got what we needed, RHD, 2LC, bit of size in offense. Hopefully they all flourish. There’s charts out there that show the amount from every round that make it. I believe overall 20% of picks make the NHL. The 1st round is obviously the best at 50%. I believe the 2nd round is somewhere around 25%. So just looking at stats, I believe the Hawks will have some who won’t make it that people thought would. It’s just the nature of things. Only so many spots available. My worry is the top end forward talent just isn’t anywhere near the level it needs to be. Take out Bedard. You basically got a ton of middle 6 players. Which is exactly what Nashville is. They have their one star in Forsberg (which they never drafted). Then they fill out the roster with great skaters, hardest workers etc. but always lack size, and that top end skill to get them into the playoffs. Right now I don’t see a true #1 center on the Hawks. I believe Bedard will be a winger. Yet there’s an abundance of Dmen, yet they ignore that again. To get that true big #1 centerman is gonna cost a lot!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 13:02:18 GMT -6
If Boisvert was always the target with the second 1st round pick, wasn't there a rumour that Vegas were looking at him and we made the NYI trade to jump ahead of them? I quite like this draft, think we got what we needed, RHD, 2LC, bit of size in offense. Hopefully they all flourish. There’s charts out there that show the amount from every round that make it. I believe overall 20% of picks make the NHL. The 1st round is obviously the best at 50%. I believe the 2nd round is somewhere around 25%. So just looking at stats, I believe the Hawks will have some who won’t make it that people thought would. It’s just the nature of things. Only so many spots available. My worry is the top end forward talent just isn’t anywhere near the level it needs to be. Take out Bedard. You basically got a ton of middle 6 players. Which is exactly what Nashville is. They have their one star in Forsberg (which they never drafted). Then they fill out the roster with great skaters, hardest workers etc. but always lack size, and that top end skill to get them into the playoffs. Right now I don’t see a true #1 center on the Hawks. I believe Bedard will be a winger. Yet there’s an abundance of Dmen, yet they ignore that again. To get that true big #1 centerman is gonna cost a lot!!! I know you wanted Lindstrom, but I think he ends up a wing as well. there is a fair chance those picking felt the same, thus why he wasn't as much of a candidate. that plus his back injury turned me off on him. if he hadn't had that injury, I think he would have been more of a candidate. seeing the reports that KfC REALLY tried to move up to 4th as well last night makes me feel better about this draft, tbh. I liked the players taken last night, but I would have preferred Demidov @ 2 and to not have blown through all of our 2nds to move up a few spots for the other two picks. it is what is now. as others have said, we have an ass ton of picks, gotta use em somehow. especially when we have a bunch more over the next three years. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Jun 29, 2024 13:10:03 GMT -6
If Boisvert was always the target with the second 1st round pick, wasn't there a rumour that Vegas were looking at him and we made the NYI trade to jump ahead of them? I quite like this draft, think we got what we needed, RHD, 2LC, bit of size in offense. Hopefully they all flourish. There’s charts out there that show the amount from every round that make it. I believe overall 20% of picks make the NHL. The 1st round is obviously the best at 50%. I believe the 2nd round is somewhere around 25%. So just looking at stats, I believe the Hawks will have some who won’t make it that people thought would. It’s just the nature of things. Only so many spots available. My worry is the top end forward talent just isn’t anywhere near the level it needs to be. Take out Bedard. You basically got a ton of middle 6 players. Which is exactly what Nashville is. They have their one star in Forsberg (which they never drafted). Then they fill out the roster with great skaters, hardest workers etc. but always lack size, and that top end skill to get them into the playoffs. Right now I don’t see a true #1 center on the Hawks. I believe Bedard will be a winger. Yet there’s an abundance of Dmen, yet they ignore that again. To get that true big #1 centerman is gonna cost a lot!!! Ok T, going with what you just said, The Hawks should’ve drafted Lidstrome as the number #2, I read from Pierre Lebrun the Hawks offered Columbus there first round pick next season unprotected plus another draft pick for there number 4. I clearly felt the Hawks did t need to draft Arty with the number of prospects they have in the system, yes it always great to have plenty to choose from, and defenders take more time to develop. There were a lot of defenders in the second round, and with the picks given away the Hawks could of had there RHD, Arty is not a definite and neither is anyone else. However, you spoke of players playing Center, Demidov is t a Centermen and you wanted the Hawks to draft him, did you not? |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Jun 29, 2024 13:18:56 GMT -6
There’s charts out there that show the amount from every round that make it. I believe overall 20% of picks make the NHL. The 1st round is obviously the best at 50%. I believe the 2nd round is somewhere around 25%. So just looking at stats, I believe the Hawks will have some who won’t make it that people thought would. It’s just the nature of things. Only so many spots available. My worry is the top end forward talent just isn’t anywhere near the level it needs to be. Take out Bedard. You basically got a ton of middle 6 players. Which is exactly what Nashville is. They have their one star in Forsberg (which they never drafted). Then they fill out the roster with great skaters, hardest workers etc. but always lack size, and that top end skill to get them into the playoffs. Right now I don’t see a true #1 center on the Hawks. I believe Bedard will be a winger. Yet there’s an abundance of Dmen, yet they ignore that again. To get that true big #1 centerman is gonna cost a lot!!! I know you wanted Lindstrom, but I think he ends up a wing as well. there is a fair chance those picking felt the same, thus why he wasn't as much of a candidate. that plus his back injury turned me off on him. if he hadn't had that injury, I think he would have been more of a candidate. seeing the reports that KfC REALLY tried to move up to 4th as well last night makes me feel better about this draft, tbh. I liked the players taken last night, but I would have preferred Demidov @ 2 and to not have blown through all of our 2nds to move up a few spots for the other two picks. it is what is now. as others have said, we have an ass ton of picks, gotta use em somehow. especially when we have a bunch more over the next three years. Hey Vadar,I think we get caught up as fans and dwell on the past success here in Chicago, me included. The 3x time cup champs will never be duplicated, and with Stan’s ridiculous trades and poor signings we are chomping at the bit to see this team back in the playoffs. In 2006-2008 when the Hawks were digging there way out of the basement, they had Keith and Seabs already, so it was easy to choose Kane and Toews, they blew it on the cam Barker pick but the feeling is we have Vlassic, Kk and Jones right now and no one for Bedard, I know you want Demidov, and so did I for that reason. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 29, 2024 13:23:34 GMT -6
I’ve just seen 4-5 big Right shot D get drafted in the early 2nd round. That’s the smart thing to do. Then develop them. There’s a lot more RHD in this draft than I ever thought!!! that was why I thought Demidov was the better pick, lots of RHD in this draft that could be had later on... But not all those righties have elite skating to go with offense and size, and a guys character has to be taken into consideration as well. He'll be a stud on D for many years. Demidov was very intriguing but to much uncertainty. Lindstrom has 1C potential but a herniated disc is a big red flag. So I like this pick. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 13:27:06 GMT -6
I know you wanted Lindstrom, but I think he ends up a wing as well. there is a fair chance those picking felt the same, thus why he wasn't as much of a candidate. that plus his back injury turned me off on him. if he hadn't had that injury, I think he would have been more of a candidate. seeing the reports that KfC REALLY tried to move up to 4th as well last night makes me feel better about this draft, tbh. I liked the players taken last night, but I would have preferred Demidov @ 2 and to not have blown through all of our 2nds to move up a few spots for the other two picks. it is what is now. as others have said, we have an ass ton of picks, gotta use em somehow. especially when we have a bunch more over the next three years. Hey Vadar,I think we get caught up as fans and dwell on the past success here in Chicago, me included. The 3x time cup champs will never be duplicated, and with Stan’s ridiculous trades and poor signings we are chomping at the bit to see this team back in the playoffs. In 2006-2008 when the Hawks were digging there way out of the basement, they had Keith and Seabs already, so it was easy to choose Kane and Toews, they blew it on the cam Barker pick but the feeling is we have Vlassic, Kk and Jones right now and no one for Bedard, I know you want Demidov, and so did I for that reason. I was fine with taking a chance on Demidov rather than Levshunov as I think Demidov is more likely to be a star (but I'm not sure how high the percentage is that either is a star, tbh). I also was fine with taking Demidov there because I thought we could add RHD later in the draft. I would have preferred to move down, but it takes two to tango and the 'hawks have been enamored with Levshunov for a good while now, so I knew that wouldn't happen. hearing that they wanted to move up and get both is good to hear. too bad it didn't work out. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Jun 29, 2024 13:30:19 GMT -6
that was why I thought Demidov was the better pick, lots of RHD in this draft that could be had later on... But not all those righties have elite skating to go with offense and size, and a guys character has to be taken into consideration as well. He'll be a stud on D for many years. Demidov was very intriguing but to much uncertainty. Lindstrom has 1C potential but a herniated disc is a big red flag. So I like this pick. I don’t think it’s a question of if Arty will be good or not, I think it’s more of a question of how the Hawks should be prioritizing the need for better offense. Bedard can’t carry this team on his own. The feeling was Reichel was going to be a lot better than what he was last season, Nazar, it’s to early to tell, Moore, it will be a few years before we see anything, so what does or star forward have to work with, Foligno and Taylor Hall? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 29, 2024 13:30:44 GMT -6
5th round pick, #138, RW/C Joel Svensson. 6'1" 185lbs and had 24 goals in 25gms in the Swedish junior league. Known for his speed and awareness.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 13:31:25 GMT -6
that was why I thought Demidov was the better pick, lots of RHD in this draft that could be had later on... But not all those righties have elite skating to go with offense and size, and a guys character has to be taken into consideration as well. He'll be a stud on D for many years. Demidov was very intriguing but to much uncertainty. Lindstrom has 1C potential but a herniated disc is a big red flag. So I like this pick. nothing wrong with that, man! I was never going to hate any pick we made, mostly because I wasn't expecting a lot out of this draft. I like that we've gone after the speed/hard worker but with some size combo this go around. hopefully Levshunov turns into a beast, the 'hawks scouts certainly are convinced he will (with proper development). I like our draft, I just might have gone about things a little differently. I'd imagine most here could/would say the same. nothing we can do about it now except hope some of these kids turn into studs! |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 29, 2024 13:32:30 GMT -6
I dunno which reporter said it, but it sounds like the 'hawks drafted three of the fastest payers in the draft.
I think KfC might have a type... lol
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jun 29, 2024 13:34:24 GMT -6
I hope to feel more enthusiastic about this draft over the next days and weeks as the disappointment of passing on a potential superstar recedes. Maybe it is a Bedard effect from last draft when we got the belle of the ball and every other pick was frosting on top which makes this draft seem drab and underwhelming. When your first step is a misstep every step thereafter is off the mark and that's the way it seems to me. Where last year I was filled with enthusiasm for Moore/Gajan/Kantserov/Misiak/Lardis - this year I have none of it for any of the picks. Hopefully time clears the fog.
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