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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 18, 2024 12:04:05 GMT -6
Boqvist is 6', not tiny but small for a dman. And Parekh is 180lbs, not a lot of dmen make it in the NHL who are that light. If Parekh has a concussion from that headshot, that's worrisome because Adam also had a concussion his draft year. I haven't watched him play a full game or live, but I've studied a lot of videos and watched scouting reports, he's definitely a highly skilled smart dman, but Luke seems to like bigger guys on the backend. Bonus if they're great skaters like Vlasic, Korchinski and Rinzel. But I can see the Hawks taking a bigger right handed dman like Levshunov or Yakemchuk. Or maybe the Hawks get lucky 2yrs in a row and get the #1 pick, very unlikely but there's a chance. If they do, then KD should trade up with the Tampa pick and grab Yakemchuk. What I do know is we have to hope Florida can take out the Bolts and get us in the low 20s for that pick!!! since march 1st, basically the last quarter of the season....TB is 4th with a .700 points % while the cats are 16th at .591%....so i'm a bit worried about that series. and in that time frame, the bolts are also tops in goals scored/game at 4.00 and tops in the PK at 93.3%. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 18, 2024 12:30:38 GMT -6
What I do know is we have to hope Florida can take out the Bolts and get us in the low 20s for that pick!!! since march 1st, basically the last quarter of the season....TB is 4th with a .700 points % while the cats are 16th at .591%....so i'm a bit worried about that series. and in that time frame, the bolts are also tops in goals scored/game at 4.00 and tops in the PK at 93.3%. It would be a bit of a downer to get pick 31 or 32!!! |
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Post by BigT on Apr 18, 2024 13:18:01 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Apr 18, 2024 14:34:51 GMT -6
Boqvist is 6', not tiny but small for a dman. And Parekh is 180lbs, not a lot of dmen make it in the NHL who are that light. If Parekh has a concussion from that headshot, that's worrisome because Adam also had a concussion his draft year. I haven't watched him play a full game or live, but I've studied a lot of videos and watched scouting reports, he's definitely a highly skilled smart dman, but Luke seems to like bigger guys on the backend. Bonus if they're great skaters like Vlasic, Korchinski and Rinzel. But I can see the Hawks taking a bigger right handed dman like Levshunov or Yakemchuk. Or maybe the Hawks get lucky 2yrs in a row and get the #1 pick, very unlikely but there's a chance. If they do, then KD should trade up with the Tampa pick and grab Yakemchuk. Yakemchuk had 30 goals and 120 penalty minutes. He’s 6’3” 200. Maybe another Seabrook? He’s always welcomed. The few Michigan State games I watched, Levshunov just didn’t excite me. I’m no way saying he’s a bust. I just don’t feel it with him. Like I said, I’ve been wrong before. And his skating doesn’t seem to great. It’s not bad by no means. Now there’s word that Lindstoms injuries may be worse than first thought. Maybe longer term. So who knows? What I do know is we have to hope Florida can take out the Bolts and get us in the low 20s for that pick!!! like I said, Lindstrom's injury concerns might push him back down the board. it'll be interesting to see how he does at the combine. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 18, 2024 14:36:07 GMT -6
What I do know is we have to hope Florida can take out the Bolts and get us in the low 20s for that pick!!! since march 1st, basically the last quarter of the season....TB is 4th with a .700 points % while the cats are 16th at .591%....so i'm a bit worried about that series. and in that time frame, the bolts are also tops in goals scored/game at 4.00 and tops in the PK at 93.3%. Florida has a tendency to play very well against Vasilevskiy. hopefully that continues in the playoffs. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 18, 2024 14:43:00 GMT -6
6 of the top 8 are d. no one is taking that Russian kid in the top 5, either. certainly not the 'hawks cuz there are skating questions. Eiserman in not even top 10 anymore after being top 2-3 to start the season... I would love to see Hage with our second pick, if only for morrrrreeeeee U-M players to also be Blackhawks prospects. |
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Post by reylohawks on Apr 18, 2024 16:45:16 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 21, 2024 3:58:45 GMT -6
In a few short weeks the draft will be on.
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Post by 2old4this on Apr 21, 2024 6:42:53 GMT -6
In a few short weeks the draft will be on. When is the lottery drawing? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 21, 2024 6:48:53 GMT -6
In a few short weeks the draft will be on. When is the lottery drawing? |
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Post by BigT on Apr 21, 2024 9:13:12 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/ |
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Post by BigT on Apr 21, 2024 9:28:30 GMT -6
I haven’t put a lot of effort in the back end of the first round. I see a lot of Dmen. The Hawks have more than enough of them. Maybe this is the year to trade the Tampa pick and whatever else for some help now. There’s a litany of prospects and ample dmen. Not all will make it. It may be time to do this!!!
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Post by vadarx on Apr 21, 2024 17:43:54 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/I've mentioned Hage, for obvious reasons. I've been waiting more for the final rankins to come out and for the tb pick to be decided. go cats! |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 21, 2024 18:22:26 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/I've mentioned Hage, for obvious reasons. I've been waiting more for the final rankins to come out and for the tb pick to be decided. go cats!They got the first one - three more to go to lock in our TB pick at #20 ( or is it #19 - not sure ). |
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Post by tincup on Apr 21, 2024 18:29:39 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/I’m starting to like Cole Beaudoin and hoping he’s there for our first second round pick. Know anything about him from seeing him live maybe? |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 21, 2024 19:10:06 GMT -6
I've mentioned Hage, for obvious reasons. I've been waiting more for the final rankins to come out and for the tb pick to be decided. go cats!They got the first one - three more to go to lock in our TB pick at #20 ( or is it #19 - not sure ). unless the isles or Vegas makes it to the conference finals, it'll be 20th. I think. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 21, 2024 19:21:31 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/explains the sudden mock drafts all having the 'hawks take Demidov. hurts my brain. skating questions and small. no effing way are the 'hawks taking him @ 2. or 3 or 4 either. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Apr 21, 2024 22:40:59 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/explains the sudden mock drafts all having the 'hawks take Demidov. hurts my brain. skating questions and small. no effing way are the 'hawks taking him @ 2. or 3 or 4 either. Parekh sounds like a potential Makar clone. Or a right handed Erik Gustafson. Can Parekh play any D? |
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Post by BigT on Apr 22, 2024 1:09:05 GMT -6
I think we’ve discussed the top pick enough for a while. I think it’s safe to say that we all hope Tampa doesn’t get her going this playoffs. That pick will be in the 19-32 range. Hoping they don’t make the Cup finals. Or even conference finals. We’ve barely touched on the 2nd pick. I guess it’s due not knowing the placement. So. Here’s a list of draft prospects so we may discuss!!! www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-40-prospects-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/sn-amp/I’m starting to like Cole Beaudoin and hoping he’s there for our first second round pick. Know anything about him from seeing him live maybe? I don’t recall much outta him this year. But the good news is this. He more than likely will be on the under 18 team soon so we’ll get to see these kids really soon!!! |
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Post by BigT on Apr 22, 2024 8:21:59 GMT -6
explains the sudden mock drafts all having the 'hawks take Demidov. hurts my brain. skating questions and small. no effing way are the 'hawks taking him @ 2. or 3 or 4 either. Parekh sounds like a potential Makar clone. Or a right handed Erik Gustafson. Can Parekh play any D? Pros: He broke the record for most goals and points by a 16 year old dman. I believe he set the record this year for widest margin for a dman to lead his team in points (21 points). Next year he will 100% smash both former Windsor Spitfires Joel Quenneville and Ryan Ellis for most points in a season by a dman in the OHL. Saginaw will be good again next year. So it’s not like he had one good year. He seems to constantly be progressing upwards. Cons: He’s ok defensively, his strength is turning defense into offense. But sometimes he’s just not capable with a more physical play. So he’d have to be paired with a bruiser to help create space. Pro: His skating is elite. His hockey iq is elite. He gets shots through, all the time. He reads plays two pages before they happened. Con: He needs to put on a solid 20 lbs. it says he’s 180, but I seriously doubt that. More like 170. Pro: we will see him in the under 18s here soon. He should be the star of the show. Con: if the Hawks pick later than 2, there’s a chance he’s already gone!!! |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 22, 2024 9:36:08 GMT -6
They got the first one - three more to go to lock in our TB pick at #20 ( or is it #19 - not sure ). unless the isles or Vegas makes it to the conference finals, it'll be 20th. I think. The non-playoff teams are set at 1-16. If Washington loses before conference finals it will pick 17th, same with Islanders who would pick 18th, same with Vegas who will pick 19th. Need 2 out of these 3 teams to make conference finals for Bolts pick to be 18th. If 1 of 3 makes it pick would be 19th. This is assuming Bolts lose in first 2 rounds. If Caps, Islanders, Vegas and Bolts all lose before conference finals pick would be 20th. IMO only Vegas has a chance to make conference finals and that is iffy based on their GT situation, but goalies can get hot (i.e. Hill last year and won cup) |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 22, 2024 17:09:47 GMT -6
unless the isles or Vegas makes it to the conference finals, it'll be 20th. I think. The non-playoff teams are set at 1-16. If Washington loses before conference finals it will pick 17th, same with Islanders who would pick 18th, same with Vegas who will pick 19th. Need 2 out of these 3 teams to make conference finals for Bolts pick to be 18th. If 1 of 3 makes it pick would be 19th. This is assuming Bolts lose in first 2 rounds. If Caps, Islanders, Vegas and Bolts all lose before conference finals pick would be 20th. IMO only Vegas has a chance to make conference finals and that is iffy based on their GT situation, but goalies can get hot (i.e. Hill last year and won cup) so pretty much the best we are doing is 19th... |
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Post by tincup on Apr 23, 2024 20:50:07 GMT -6
I wonder how many scouts were at this one…I’m thinking…zero.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 23, 2024 21:01:15 GMT -6
I wonder how many scouts were at this one…I’m thinking…zero. There has to be a mercy rule, that's pathetic. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 26, 2024 6:24:01 GMT -6
Looking like the Hawks get a top 20 pick again from Tampa. However, I would never ever count them out. They could erase a 3-0 deficit with the blink of an eye and the crack of a beer!!!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 26, 2024 6:39:02 GMT -6
Looking like the Hawks get a top 20 pick again from Tampa. However, I would never ever count them out. They could erase a 3-0 deficit with the blink of an eye and the crack of a beer!!! They could but I doubt it, only 2% have come back from 0-3. But it's not over till it's over. We've mentioned this before but this pick should be packaged to move up, KD needs to use his many assets. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 26, 2024 6:56:11 GMT -6
Boqvist is 6', not tiny but small for a dman. And Parekh is 180lbs, not a lot of dmen make it in the NHL who are that light. If Parekh has a concussion from that headshot, that's worrisome because Adam also had a concussion his draft year. I haven't watched him play a full game or live, but I've studied a lot of videos and watched scouting reports, he's definitely a highly skilled smart dman, but Luke seems to like bigger guys on the backend. Bonus if they're great skaters like Vlasic, Korchinski and Rinzel. But I can see the Hawks taking a bigger right handed dman like Levshunov or Yakemchuk. Or maybe the Hawks get lucky 2yrs in a row and get the #1 pick, very unlikely but there's a chance. If they do, then KD should trade up with the Tampa pick and grab Yakemchuk. Yakemchuk had 30 goals and 120 penalty minutes. He’s 6’3” 200. Maybe another Seabrook? He’s always welcomed. The few Michigan State games I watched, Levshunov just didn’t excite me. I’m no way saying he’s a bust. I just don’t feel it with him. Like I said, I’ve been wrong before. And his skating doesn’t seem to great. It’s not bad by no means. Now there’s word that Lindstoms injuries may be worse than first thought. Maybe longer term. So who knows? What I do know is we have to hope Florida can take out the Bolts and get us in the low 20s for that pick!!! Yakemchuk could be a hybrid of Seabs and Keith, the guy has great edge work and he scored some highlight reel goals because of it. Plus he has some very soft hands and a cannon of a shot, including the drag and release like Bedard. On top of that he's big and uses his size. He's the only dman in the WHL to score 30 goals this season, 23 last season as a rookie, he's the real deal. He'd look great with Korchinski or Vlasic on the top4. It's to bad Lindstrom got injured, but I'd still take a chance on him, but not with the first pick. There's not many big guys with his skill and speed. |
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Post by mvr on Apr 26, 2024 9:40:18 GMT -6
For years, the consensus was to draft the "best player available" and then to trade from surplus.
The problem now is that teams rarely engage in "hockey trades." What we see instead are cap-related moves mostly involving draft picks and failed prospects.
Filling holes in a roster is much more challenging. For this reason, I believe drafting based on positional need is essential.
If I am Davidson, I target one of the right-shot defencemen with the first pick. There are two exceptionally good ones in the top ten. When it comes to the Hawks' selection, I consider trading down if one of the two is likely available a few spots later.
I use the second pick and just about all the other picks to draft large framed forwards (especially centres), especially those who engage physically and play a two-way game. I avoid left-shot defenders and undersized wingers for the next several years. The team is loaded at these positions.
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Post by Nikos on Apr 26, 2024 11:37:06 GMT -6
For years, the consensus was to draft the "best player available" and then to trade from surplus. The problem now is that teams rarely engage in "hockey trades." What we see instead are cap-related moves mostly involving draft picks and failed prospects. Filling holes in a roster is much more challenging. For this reason, I believe drafting based on positional need is essential. If I am Davidson, I target one of the right-shot defencemen with the first pick. There are two exceptionally good ones in the top ten. When it comes to the Hawks' selection, I consider trading down if one of the two is likely available a few spots later. I use the second pick and just about all the other picks to draft large framed forwards (especially centres), especially those who engage physically and play a two-way game. I avoid left-shot defenders and undersized wingers for the next several years. The team is loaded at these positions. KD is on record saying best available, regardless if they have surplus or need. Guess will find if he drafts the Russian winger Ivan Demidov. That would not be my choice if they get the second pick, but he is climbing up the draft boards and some are comparing him to Kucherov. |
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Post by mvr on Apr 26, 2024 12:20:19 GMT -6
For years, the consensus was to draft the "best player available" and then to trade from surplus. The problem now is that teams rarely engage in "hockey trades." What we see instead are cap-related moves mostly involving draft picks and failed prospects. Filling holes in a roster is much more challenging. For this reason, I believe drafting based on positional need is essential. If I am Davidson, I target one of the right-shot defencemen with the first pick. There are two exceptionally good ones in the top ten. When it comes to the Hawks' selection, I consider trading down if one of the two is likely available a few spots later. I use the second pick and just about all the other picks to draft large framed forwards (especially centres), especially those who engage physically and play a two-way game. I avoid left-shot defenders and undersized wingers for the next several years. The team is loaded at these positions. KD is on record saying best available, regardless if they have surplus or need. Guess will find if he drafts the Russian winger Ivan Demidov. That would not be my choice if they get the second pick, but he is climbing up the draft boards and some are comparing him to Kucherov. He would certainly not be my pick, but I fear Davidson thinks otherwise. I have always felt this idea that amateur scouts somehow can determine "the best" out of what is available to be laughable. Most of these kids still need plenty of development. Some will get better, and others will lose interest or stagnate. Was Anton Babchuk better than Duncan Keith? The Hawks' scouts thought so. They picked three players before settling on Brandon Saad. The Hawks got lucky with Jonathan Toews. St. Louis and Pittsburg both thought they were picking the "best available." There certainly are levels within each draft. The top five picks tend to very good. The next ten likely will make it. But then it starts to get iffy. More picks in a lottery lead to more possible successes. One thing we know for sure - Deminov is a small scoring winger, and the Hawks have plenty of these types. He will never develop into a power forward. He is not a physical player. On the other hand, Levchunov plays right-defence. He is thought to be just about ready to play a top four role right now. The Hawks need a player for that position. |
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