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2024 Draft
Apr 13, 2024 20:41:49 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Apr 13, 2024 20:41:49 GMT -6
So if we finish 2nd and do not win the lottery - the best case would be for 2 teams in the 13-16 slots to win so they can only move up 10 spots which would not affect our position at #2. I think. Here’s tankathon odds etc. if you’re last overall and stay where you are. You didn’t actually win anything. So that’s why I think it’s just the 1st overall 2 times in 5 years. I’ll read up more. We’ll see what it says!!! yeah, it is a bit confusing. it reads like it should be winning either drawing counts, but it kinda seems like winning the 2nd overall pick shouldn't count. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 13, 2024 21:27:41 GMT -6
So if we finish 2nd and do not win the lottery - the best case would be for 2 teams in the 13-16 slots to win so they can only move up 10 spots which would not affect our position at #2. I think. Here’s tankathon odds etc. if you’re last overall and stay where you are. You didn’t actually win anything. So that’s why I think it’s just the 1st overall 2 times in 5 years. I’ll read up more. We’ll see what it says!!! www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_oddsI think the key term is "moving up". If you got the 1st overall pick but got there by finishing last and NOT by moving up in the draft - then it's not considered a lottery win. The only "twice in 5 years" thing is "moving up twice in 5 years". |
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Post by 2old4this on Apr 13, 2024 22:03:58 GMT -6
Keep on truckin'.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 13, 2024 22:30:20 GMT -6
This draft thread got hyjacked big time. This thread is about the draft and there's draft talk, how was it hijacked? |
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Post by 2old4this on Apr 13, 2024 23:23:43 GMT -6
This draft thread got hyjacked big time. This thread is about the draft and there's draft talk, how was it hijacked? Sorry. I saw a bunch of posts re: the Memorial Cup and questioning about who would be the fourth particpant under certain conditions. I didn'[t see the connection to the draft. Still don't, but if you do it's good enough for me. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 14, 2024 4:38:39 GMT -6
This thread is about the draft and there's draft talk, how was it hijacked? Sorry. I saw a bunch of posts re: the Memorial Cup and questioning about who would be the fourth particpant under certain conditions. I didn'[t see the connection to the draft. Still don't, but if you do it's good enough for me. The last comment about the Memorial Cup was April 10th, there's been a lot of draft talk since, that's why your comment threw me off lol |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 14, 2024 4:43:47 GMT -6
If Chicago loses or gets 1pt tonight, they'll officially finish the season second last.
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Post by BigT on Apr 14, 2024 6:39:41 GMT -6
If Chicago loses or gets 1pt tonight, they'll officially finish the season second last. So they’re probably not making the playoffs? I thought they would!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 15, 2024 7:50:42 GMT -6
final numbers are in.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 15, 2024 8:47:49 GMT -6
I think Celebrini is for sure the best player with the best odds to translate his game to the NHL - so it's not like I don't care if the Hawks get him or not - I do care and I want the Hawks to win the lottery and draft Celebrini to set up the Hawks with a great one-two punch for the next decade. But, for some reason I just don't feel the manic urgency I had last year to get Bedard like the fate of the Hawks depended on it.
So, I'll be happy with whomever we get with our first pick - although if it isn't Celebrini I hope it's my new man crush Zayne Parekh.
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Post by BigT on Apr 15, 2024 9:43:17 GMT -6
I think Celebrini is for sure the best player with the best odds to translate his game to the NHL - so it's not like I don't care if the Hawks get him or not - I do care and I want the Hawks to win the lottery and draft Celebrini to set up the Hawks with a great one-two punch for the next decade. But, for some reason I just don't feel the manic urgency I had last year to get Bedard like the fate of the Hawks depended on it. So, I'll be happy with whomever we get with our first pick - although if it isn't Celebrini I hope it's my new man crush Zayne Parekh. When you look at everything the Hawks have said in what they look for in a player. Parekh is that player. Skating-check. High motor-check. High skill-check. It’s everything they ever wanted in one package. If it is Parekh, I don’t think he’ll disappoint!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 17, 2024 11:16:34 GMT -6
FYI.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 17, 2024 13:19:29 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 17, 2024 13:31:31 GMT -6
memory's not too shit hot anymore but if i recall correctly last year's episode was pretty good. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 17, 2024 14:16:11 GMT -6
memory's not too shit hot anymore but if i recall correctly last year's episode was pretty good. Maybe this year they will rehearse first before giving away the plot. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 17, 2024 14:26:06 GMT -6
memory's not too shit hot anymore but if i recall correctly last year's episode was pretty good. Maybe this year they will rehearse first before giving away the plot. I will be happy when the turn the 4th spot and it says Columbus meaning the top three spots are still intact. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Apr 17, 2024 15:40:09 GMT -6
memory's not too shit hot anymore but if i recall correctly last year's episode was pretty good. Maybe this year they will rehearse first before giving away the plot. Yeah, we all know that it's rigged and Chicago will get the first pick -- but maybe they can keep the suspense going a little longer. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Apr 17, 2024 15:54:18 GMT -6
Celebrini is ours
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2024 Draft
Apr 17, 2024 21:03:46 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Apr 17, 2024 21:03:46 GMT -6
memory's not too shit hot anymore but if i recall correctly last year's episode was pretty good. I enjoyed it! well, the report of it anyway. I was out visiting ruins in the desert when the news came through... |
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Post by BigT on Apr 17, 2024 21:16:32 GMT -6
I’m gonna say no. Not that I don’t want him. I’d love him. But I think the Hawks will pick 2 or 3. Now the question is besides Celebrini, who do you take? My picks are at #2 Parekh. At #3 Lindstrom. I know that’s not popular because many have the 2 Russo players going 2-3. Levshunov is not a bad pick at 2 or 3. I may eat crow here. But I don’t think he fits into what the Hawks plans are. I don’t see elite skating and I don’t see a high motor. I see a kid that can take advantage of the situations with his size. I’m not sure that works so well in the NHL. He kinda reminds me of a defensive version of Kakko. When he was playing n Jrs his size got him by. He would dominate. But there was no real skill there. Whereas Parekh oozes skill, speed and elite skating. A motor that never stops. Lindstrom is a little more rough around the edges. But still a great prospect. I’ve been wrong before. I never seen Jack Hughes being the player he is. And his first two years he looked the part of a bust. So I admit I was wrong. But not that wrong. I said I’d take Zegras over all of them. So can’t say I was that far off. And I definitely wanted nothing of Turcotte. Byram was my guy at 3. Anyways. I was wrong about Hughes. Zegras isn’t as good as him…… yet. So this year. I can only tell you what I e seen. I’ve seen Parekh 5/6 times over the last 2 years. Kid is the real deal. You’re basically getting that sick version of Erik Karlsson. I haven’t seen Lindstrom live like I have Parekh. But gawd dam that kid is huge and awesome. Hawks have the opportunity to swing for the fences here. Either of those two can be great in Chicago. Not every kid pans out due to no time to develop. But the Hawks have this luxury. I’m leaning towards size. But it’s really really hard to deny what Parekh can do. He’s very very special. Maybe even more so than Celebrini. Trust me!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 17, 2024 21:53:17 GMT -6
I’m gonna say no. Not that I don’t want him. I’d love him. But I think the Hawks will pick 2 or 3. Now the question is besides Celebrini, who do you take? My picks are at #2 Parekh. At #3 Lindstrom. I know that’s not popular because many have the 2 Russo players going 2-3. Levshunov is not a bad pick at 2 or 3. I may eat crow here. But I don’t think he fits into what the Hawks plans are. I don’t see elite skating and I don’t see a high motor. I see a kid that can take advantage of the situations with his size. I’m not sure that works so well in the NHL. He kinda reminds me of a defensive version of Kakko. When he was playing n Jrs his size got him by. He would dominate. But there was no real skill there. Whereas Parekh oozes skill, speed and elite skating. A motor that never stops. Lindstrom is a little more rough around the edges. But still a great prospect. I’ve been wrong before. I never seen Jack Hughes being the player he is. And his first two years he looked the part of a bust. So I admit I was wrong. But not that wrong. I said I’d take Zegras over all of them. So can’t say I was that far off. And I definitely wanted nothing of Turcotte. Byram was my guy at 3. Anyways. I was wrong about Hughes. Zegras isn’t as good as him…… yet. So this year. I can only tell you what I e seen. I’ve seen Parekh 5/6 times over the last 2 years. Kid is the real deal. You’re basically getting that sick version of Erik Karlsson. I haven’t seen Lindstrom live like I have Parekh. But gawd dam that kid is huge and awesome. Hawks have the opportunity to swing for the fences here. Either of those two can be great in Chicago. Not every kid pans out due to no time to develop. But the Hawks have this luxury. I’m leaning towards size. But it’s really really hard to deny what Parekh can do. He’s very very special. Maybe even more so than Celebrini. Trust me!!! I'm thinking RHD with the first pick and then hopefully a trade up for Jerome's boy. I know wings fans are already salivating at maybe getting Tij @ 15, but I don't think he lasts that long... |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 17, 2024 23:20:30 GMT -6
I’m gonna say no. Not that I don’t want him. I’d love him. But I think the Hawks will pick 2 or 3. Now the question is besides Celebrini, who do you take? My picks are at #2 Parekh. At #3 Lindstrom. I know that’s not popular because many have the 2 Russo players going 2-3. Levshunov is not a bad pick at 2 or 3. I may eat crow here. But I don’t think he fits into what the Hawks plans are. I don’t see elite skating and I don’t see a high motor. I see a kid that can take advantage of the situations with his size. I’m not sure that works so well in the NHL. He kinda reminds me of a defensive version of Kakko. When he was playing n Jrs his size got him by. He would dominate. But there was no real skill there. Whereas Parekh oozes skill, speed and elite skating. A motor that never stops. Lindstrom is a little more rough around the edges. But still a great prospect. I’ve been wrong before. I never seen Jack Hughes being the player he is. And his first two years he looked the part of a bust. So I admit I was wrong. But not that wrong. I said I’d take Zegras over all of them. So can’t say I was that far off. And I definitely wanted nothing of Turcotte. Byram was my guy at 3. Anyways. I was wrong about Hughes. Zegras isn’t as good as him…… yet. So this year. I can only tell you what I e seen. I’ve seen Parekh 5/6 times over the last 2 years. Kid is the real deal. You’re basically getting that sick version of Erik Karlsson. I haven’t seen Lindstrom live like I have Parekh. But gawd dam that kid is huge and awesome. Hawks have the opportunity to swing for the fences here. Either of those two can be great in Chicago. Not every kid pans out due to no time to develop. But the Hawks have this luxury. I’m leaning towards size. But it’s really really hard to deny what Parekh can do. He’s very very special. Maybe even more so than Celebrini. Trust me!!! I tuned in to watch the Soo/Saginaw game tonight to watch our boy G.Hayes and our potential new boy Parekh - and Parekh wasn't playing. I watched the previous game and he took a hit up high getting scrunched into the boards and he lay on the ice for a little bit like he was hurt bad or maybe knocked out. He eventually got up and went to the locker room but he came back out after a few minutes and took some more shift so I though there was no problem. The announcers didn't have any definitive news on it other than the coach said day to day. It looked to me he got an elbow in the head and ref called a boarding penalty with the play under review for possible major. After the review they called no penalty. I thought the review was pretty clear the elbow struck the head but it may have struck the shoulder first and rode up to the head - too close to call I guess. In any event Soo won the game 4-0 to tie up the series 2-2. Hayes picked up a couple assists. He's leading Soo in playoff scoring with 12 points in 8 games - which is tied for 6th in league playoff scoring. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 18, 2024 0:17:27 GMT -6
Parekh could be another Boqvist, especially if he's now out with a concussion. That's why I'd take a big forward like Lindstrom and move up to around #10 to get Yakemchuk.
If the Hawks get the #2 pick and the #3 team wants Parekh, trade down.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 18, 2024 0:58:17 GMT -6
Parekh could be another Boqvist, especially if he's now out with a concussion. That's why I'd take a big forward like Lindstrom and move up to around #10 to get Yakemchuk. If the Hawks get the #2 pick and the #3 team wants Parekh, trade down. Yakemchuk might be gone by 10, tbh. feels like there is going to be a major run on d-men once Celebrini is taken. Parekh, Levshunov, Yakemchuk, Silayev, Dickinson, and Buium might all go top ten... ...which could mean some very good forwards slide down the board for the taking after the top 10 picks. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 18, 2024 2:23:19 GMT -6
Parekh could be another Boqvist, especially if he's now out with a concussion. That's why I'd take a big forward like Lindstrom and move up to around #10 to get Yakemchuk. If the Hawks get the #2 pick and the #3 team wants Parekh, trade down. For sure Parekh qualifies as a high risk high reward player but he is closer to Q.Hughes than Boqvist with his dynamic play and offensive abilities. It wasn't announced (that I heard on the broadcast last night) that he sustained a concussion - so don't count my speculation as fact. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 18, 2024 5:58:51 GMT -6
Parekh could be another Boqvist, especially if he's now out with a concussion. That's why I'd take a big forward like Lindstrom and move up to around #10 to get Yakemchuk. If the Hawks get the #2 pick and the #3 team wants Parekh, trade down. For sure Parekh qualifies as a high risk high reward player but he is closer to Q.Hughes than Boqvist with his dynamic play and offensive abilities. It wasn't announced (that I heard on the broadcast last night) that he sustained a concussion - so don't count my speculation as fact. Remember. Parekh is 6 foot. So he’s not tiny. Just not huge. He’s also 17/18. So the younger draft eligible kids usually get run by the vets in the playoffs. Check out a younger Hall getting destroyed by Hamonic in the Memorial Cup. youtu.be/5BMQuNfOzrE?si=oZWzX9BJb_oi3VnzIs it concerning to see Parekh go down? Sure. But he’s a good player and will bounce back!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 18, 2024 10:31:17 GMT -6
For sure Parekh qualifies as a high risk high reward player but he is closer to Q.Hughes than Boqvist with his dynamic play and offensive abilities. It wasn't announced (that I heard on the broadcast last night) that he sustained a concussion - so don't count my speculation as fact. Remember. Parekh is 6 foot. So he’s not tiny. Just not huge. He’s also 17/18. So the younger draft eligible kids usually get run by the vets in the playoffs. Check out a younger Hall getting destroyed by Hamonic in the Memorial Cup. youtu.be/5BMQuNfOzrE?si=oZWzX9BJb_oi3VnzIs it concerning to see Parekh go down? Sure. But he’s a good player and will bounce back!!! Boqvist is 6', not tiny but small for a dman. And Parekh is 180lbs, not a lot of dmen make it in the NHL who are that light. If Parekh has a concussion from that headshot, that's worrisome because Adam also had a concussion his draft year. I haven't watched him play a full game or live, but I've studied a lot of videos and watched scouting reports, he's definitely a highly skilled smart dman, but Luke seems to like bigger guys on the backend. Bonus if they're great skaters like Vlasic, Korchinski and Rinzel. But I can see the Hawks taking a bigger right handed dman like Levshunov or Yakemchuk. Or maybe the Hawks get lucky 2yrs in a row and get the #1 pick, very unlikely but there's a chance. If they do, then KD should trade up with the Tampa pick and grab Yakemchuk. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 18, 2024 10:38:10 GMT -6
Personally I'd love to see Davidson get Lindstrom and Yakemchuk with his first two picks. Or Levshunov and Iginla if he picks a dman first.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Apr 18, 2024 11:03:52 GMT -6
For sure Parekh qualifies as a high risk high reward player but he is closer to Q.Hughes than Boqvist with his dynamic play and offensive abilities. It wasn't announced (that I heard on the broadcast last night) that he sustained a concussion - so don't count my speculation as fact. Remember. Parekh is 6 foot. So he’s not tiny. Just not huge. He’s also 17/18. So the younger draft eligible kids usually get run by the vets in the playoffs. Check out a younger Hall getting destroyed by Hamonic in the Memorial Cup. youtu.be/5BMQuNfOzrE?si=oZWzX9BJb_oi3VnzIs it concerning to see Parekh go down? Sure. But he’s a good player and will bounce back!!! Soo plays again tomorrow so we'll see if Parekh is back in the lineup - if he is then I think the concussion concern can be ignored - if he is out again then the concussion concern becomes a little more real. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 18, 2024 11:53:29 GMT -6
Remember. Parekh is 6 foot. So he’s not tiny. Just not huge. He’s also 17/18. So the younger draft eligible kids usually get run by the vets in the playoffs. Check out a younger Hall getting destroyed by Hamonic in the Memorial Cup. youtu.be/5BMQuNfOzrE?si=oZWzX9BJb_oi3VnzIs it concerning to see Parekh go down? Sure. But he’s a good player and will bounce back!!! Boqvist is 6', not tiny but small for a dman. And Parekh is 180lbs, not a lot of dmen make it in the NHL who are that light. If Parekh has a concussion from that headshot, that's worrisome because Adam also had a concussion his draft year. I haven't watched him play a full game or live, but I've studied a lot of videos and watched scouting reports, he's definitely a highly skilled smart dman, but Luke seems to like bigger guys on the backend. Bonus if they're great skaters like Vlasic, Korchinski and Rinzel. But I can see the Hawks taking a bigger right handed dman like Levshunov or Yakemchuk. Or maybe the Hawks get lucky 2yrs in a row and get the #1 pick, very unlikely but there's a chance. If they do, then KD should trade up with the Tampa pick and grab Yakemchuk. Yakemchuk had 30 goals and 120 penalty minutes. He’s 6’3” 200. Maybe another Seabrook? He’s always welcomed. The few Michigan State games I watched, Levshunov just didn’t excite me. I’m no way saying he’s a bust. I just don’t feel it with him. Like I said, I’ve been wrong before. And his skating doesn’t seem to great. It’s not bad by no means. Now there’s word that Lindstoms injuries may be worse than first thought. Maybe longer term. So who knows? What I do know is we have to hope Florida can take out the Bolts and get us in the low 20s for that pick!!! |
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