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Post by BigT on Jun 23, 2024 20:08:30 GMT -6
I’d even add in Nolan Allan. There’s just too many left D. It’s not fair to all the left D here to have to wait and be good soldiers, when they can make it elsewhere. Getting Murphy and Allan would really secure the Jets D. That would guarantee the Hawks are taking Levy!!! Allan is a stud on D and really well liked, I wouldn't trade him yet, especially to a team in the same division. I fully understand that. When will he play in Chicago? I heard an interview with Brian Campbell and it sounds like EDM will get the nod this year. With Vlasic, KK and EDM around. There’s just not much room for Allan. No one is saying he’s bad. Just saying they gotta trade from a strength to aid a weakness. I think a more realistic trade is Murphy, Allan and pick 67 for Ehlers and McGroarty. I think that’s pretty fair deal. Jets unfortunately have an internal budget too. So they’re gonna have to shed salary from time to time. Ehlers makes 6.75 but cap hit is only 6. They’d save actual cash and get defense they desperately need!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jun 23, 2024 20:35:49 GMT -6
a Wolverine, spartan, and a buckeye walk into the Blackhawks locker room... They all ask the Domer for advice(sorry could not resist) 😅 I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 23, 2024 20:39:28 GMT -6
I just saw an internet rumor of a trade between the Hawks and Winnipeg: To Chicago: Nicolas Ehlers and Rutger McGroarty To Winnipeg: Lukas Reichel, Connor Murphy and the #18 pick. First of all - I would do that trade without a 2nd thought ... but I find it hard to believe Winnipeg would - even if Murphy OK's the trade with his NMC. honestly, I'd rather not trade for Ehlers. that man cannot stay healthy. edit: I missed Ehlers having only one year left earlier. I'd consider it, but I wouldn't give them 18.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 23, 2024 20:40:46 GMT -6
Allan is a stud on D and really well liked, I wouldn't trade him yet, especially to a team in the same division. I fully understand that. When will he play in Chicago? I heard an interview with Brian Campbell and it sounds like EDM will get the nod this year. With Vlasic, KK and EDM around. There’s just not much room for Allan. No one is saying he’s bad. Just saying they gotta trade from a strength to aid a weakness. I think a more realistic trade is Murphy, Allan and pick 67 for Ehlers and McGroarty. I think that’s pretty fair deal. Jets unfortunately have an internal budget too. So they’re gonna have to shed salary from time to time. Ehlers makes 6.75 but cap hit is only 6. They’d save actual cash and get defense they desperately need!!! this trade i would do yesterday, so that probably means the Jets won't do it tomorrow.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 23, 2024 20:52:59 GMT -6
Allan is a stud on D and really well liked, I wouldn't trade him yet, especially to a team in the same division. I fully understand that. When will he play in Chicago? I heard an interview with Brian Campbell and it sounds like EDM will get the nod this year. With Vlasic, KK and EDM around. There’s just not much room for Allan. No one is saying he’s bad. Just saying they gotta trade from a strength to aid a weakness. I think a more realistic trade is Murphy, Allan and pick 67 for Ehlers and McGroarty. I think that’s pretty fair deal. Jets unfortunately have an internal budget too. So they’re gonna have to shed salary from time to time. Ehlers makes 6.75 but cap hit is only 6. They’d save actual cash and get defense they desperately need!!! Allan isn't far behind Del Mastro and both could be playing next season, Del Mastro will most likely make it out of camp, then Allan at some point, both guys can play either side so it gives the Hawks some flexibility. I'd offer them Kaiser or Phillips.
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Post by Tater on Jun 24, 2024 2:27:28 GMT -6
I hope they hang on to the 18th pick. With all them mid-tier first rounders this year I think there's a good chance for a keeper to slip to 18. But man, I really hope KFC gets an offer he can't refuse for the #2 pick. I'm not sold on Lev or Dem as a #2 overall.
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Post by BigT on Jun 24, 2024 10:04:46 GMT -6
I think tomorrow we will hear a lot more. Cup will be done, and it’s literally a sprint through the next week. So info will be coming fast and furious. I’d say no one would even attempt a trade on the day of game 7 Stanley Cup final.
So by tomorrow evening, I’m sure we’ll hear a lot of rumblings!!!
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jun 24, 2024 10:52:11 GMT -6
I think tomorrow we will hear a lot more. Cup will be done, and it’s literally a sprint through the next week. So info will be coming fast and furious. I’d say no one would even attempt a trade on the day of game 7 Stanley Cup final. So by tomorrow evening, I’m sure we’ll hear a lot of rumblings!!! Yeah - the final week. HALELLUJAH
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 24, 2024 14:50:31 GMT -6
I think tomorrow we will hear a lot more. Cup will be done, and it’s literally a sprint through the next week. So info will be coming fast and furious. I’d say no one would even attempt a trade on the day of game 7 Stanley Cup final. So by tomorrow evening, I’m sure we’ll hear a lot of rumblings!!! Yeah - the final week. HALELLUJAH Tomorrow we'll be having with drawls till Hawks camp opens.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jun 24, 2024 15:37:37 GMT -6
I say that it's going to be the first major test for KFC. He has succeeded in dismantling the team; let's see if he can start building it back up. I am going to hazard a guess: no significant trades will take place; some free agents will be picked up who could, if we are lucky, shore up the top six a little.
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 26, 2024 9:27:32 GMT -6
I read on another site that a Buffalo fan posted a proposed trade with the Hawks - Skinner and their 1st (#11) to the Hawks along with a swap of 2nd round picks (#34 <-> #43). First, this is a fan so take it with a grain of salt. Second, Buffalo has a lot of players to sign with only #23M in cap space - including a goalie to partner with Devon Levi who will probably be their #1 goalie next season - but they have all of their top players under contract so that $23M won't go as quickly as it seems - so they don't seem to be in such dire straits to require a desperate move. Skinner is 32 and did have a down year last season but he still had 24 goals and 46 points - not worthy of his $9M AAV (for 3 more years) - but not terrible. In other words I doubt Buffalo would give up the #11 pick to unload Skinner - BUT - maybe if they get the #20 pick back they would - Skinner and #11 for #20? I would do it. Looks like no pick will be needed to get Skinner - just some FA $$: www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/buffalo-sabres-intend-to-buyout-jeff-skinner.html.
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Post by squishy24 on Jun 26, 2024 11:24:53 GMT -6
I read on another site that a Buffalo fan posted a proposed trade with the Hawks - Skinner and their 1st (#11) to the Hawks along with a swap of 2nd round picks (#34 <-> #43). First, this is a fan so take it with a grain of salt. Second, Buffalo has a lot of players to sign with only #23M in cap space - including a goalie to partner with Devon Levi who will probably be their #1 goalie next season - but they have all of their top players under contract so that $23M won't go as quickly as it seems - so they don't seem to be in such dire straits to require a desperate move. Skinner is 32 and did have a down year last season but he still had 24 goals and 46 points - not worthy of his $9M AAV (for 3 more years) - but not terrible. In other words I doubt Buffalo would give up the #11 pick to unload Skinner - BUT - maybe if they get the #20 pick back they would - Skinner and #11 for #20? I would do it. Looks like no pick will be needed to get Skinner - just some FA $$: www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/buffalo-sabres-intend-to-buyout-jeff-skinner.html. Probably could have him for future considerations, given that you take his whole contract
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 16:44:36 GMT -6
Lebrun in his most recent article this afternoon says that the 'canes would match a 9 million dollar offer sheet because a first, second, and third for Necas is less than they are asking for him...
soooooo, so long on that idea.
he also made it seem like Tanev is gonna be highly desirable on Monday if Dallas doesn't get him re-signed, so we probably have to severely overpay to get him here (doubt that happens).
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jun 26, 2024 17:14:59 GMT -6
Lebrun in his most recent article this afternoon says that the 'canes would match a 9 million dollar offer sheet because a first, second, and third for Necas is less than they are asking for him... soooooo, so long on that idea. he also made it seem like Tanev is gonna be highly desirable on Monday if Dallas doesn't get him re-signed, so we probably have to severely overpay to get him here (doubt that happens). The Hawks can probably overpay Tanev, if they want him. Tyler Myers would be okay as well. Then get Skinner for some additional scoring and maybe another mid-tier second or third line type forward and see what happens. It'll be interesting to see whether the Hawks decide to qualify Raddysh. They will probably sign Blackwell and Aderson -- or maybe just one of them.
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Post by BigT on Jun 26, 2024 17:46:25 GMT -6
I e been thinking that the guys the Hawks are gonna end up with is probably Teravainen, Saad or Dakota, and on D it’ll either be Tanev, Myers or an unforeseen trade. I’m not really expecting much.
The only other move that makes sense is Laine. I know many don’t want him. He’s a good 2 year stop gap. I just don’t believe there’ll be much out there that fits the Hawks timelines. They have a lot of kids to try out too. So I doubt they’ll go long term with many if any.
Draft will be the moment for the Hawks!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 17:47:50 GMT -6
Lebrun in his most recent article this afternoon says that the 'canes would match a 9 million dollar offer sheet because a first, second, and third for Necas is less than they are asking for him... soooooo, so long on that idea. he also made it seem like Tanev is gonna be highly desirable on Monday if Dallas doesn't get him re-signed, so we probably have to severely overpay to get him here (doubt that happens). The Hawks can probably overpay Tanev, if they want him. Tyler Myers would be okay as well. Then get Skinner for some additional scoring and maybe another mid-tier second or third line type forward and see what happens. It'll be interesting to see whether the Hawks decide to qualify Raddysh. They will probably sign Blackwell and Aderson -- or maybe just one of them. they can overpay him all they want, he might want to go somewhere he has a shot at winning sooner than later more than he cares about term/coin. we shall see...
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 26, 2024 18:18:01 GMT -6
Friedman reporting Ilya Mikheyev to Chicago along with the free agent rights to Sam Lafferty. Second round pick also.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 26, 2024 18:34:06 GMT -6
Mikheyev still has to approve the deal. If it goes through
Mikheyev, Lafferty and a second for a fourth round pick
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 26, 2024 18:34:55 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 18:38:23 GMT -6
Friedman reporting Ilya Mikheyev to Chicago along with the free agent rights to Sam Lafferty. Second round pick also. are we stealing from Vancouver again?!? edit: that 2nd rounder will be at least a 2025, cuz Vancouver has no 2nd rounder this draft (cuz they already traded it to us, lol).
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Post by BigT on Jun 26, 2024 18:44:55 GMT -6
So right there is your top 6 and middle six. I guess it’s ok. Not sure Bedard is gonna enjoy playing with guys that are 32 point career high. I hope he’s got another trick up his sleeve. Sure he got a 2nd rounder. But man, that’s not what I was expecting…….. at all!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 26, 2024 18:46:32 GMT -6
Lafferty is high pace motor guy. Willing to do anything for the team.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 18:47:49 GMT -6
So right there is your top 6 and middle six. I guess it’s ok. Not sure Bedard is gonna enjoy playing with guys that are 32 point career high. I hope he’s got another trick up his sleeve. Sure he got a 2nd rounder. But man, that’s not what I was expecting…….. at all!!! que? I can't believe that is all we do. seems like a good move to me. add a 2nd and a couple players, one we know and one who we can give a shot at finally developing. for a fourth rounder, no less.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 26, 2024 18:49:30 GMT -6
So right there is your top 6 and middle six. I guess it’s ok. Not sure Bedard is gonna enjoy playing with guys that are 32 point career high. I hope he’s got another trick up his sleeve. Sure he got a 2nd rounder. But man, that’s not what I was expecting…….. at all!!! que? I can't believe that is all we do. seems like a good move to me. add a 2nd and a couple players, one we know and one who we can give a shot at finally developing. for a fourth rounder, no less. we have “room” for one top 6 winger for sure. Obviously all depends on what else is in store roster wise.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 18:52:14 GMT -6
que? I can't believe that is all we do. seems like a good move to me. add a 2nd and a couple players, one we know and one who we can give a shot at finally developing. for a fourth rounder, no less. we have “room” for one top 6 winger for sure. Obviously all depends on what else is in store roster wise. he only has two years left on his deal, too. so, not a huge risk. edit: adding another 2nd rounder could help us move up from 18 this Friday.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 26, 2024 18:55:52 GMT -6
Friedman reporting Ilya Mikheyev to Chicago along with the free agent rights to Sam Lafferty. Second round pick also. are we stealing from Vancouver again?!? edit: that 2nd rounder will be at least a 2025, cuz Vancouver has no 2nd rounder this draft (cuz they already traded it to us, lol). the pick going the other way reportedly is a 2027 4th.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 18:57:55 GMT -6
are we stealing from Vancouver again?!? edit: that 2nd rounder will be at least a 2025, cuz Vancouver has no 2nd rounder this draft (cuz they already traded it to us, lol). the pick going the other way reportedly is a 2027 4th. good lord... wonder when the 2nd is then. 2027 would be great for that one as well, seeing as we have 2, 2, and 3 in '24/'25/'26...
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 26, 2024 18:58:16 GMT -6
done deal it looks like.
edit: ben pope deleted his post. so not a done deal yet.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 26, 2024 18:58:37 GMT -6
the pick going the other way reportedly is a 2027 4th. good lord... wonder when the 2nd is then. 2027 would be great for that one as well, seeing as well 2, 2, and 3 in '24/'25/'26... 2025 second
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 19:00:50 GMT -6
good lord... wonder when the 2nd is then. 2027 would be great for that one as well, seeing as well 2, 2, and 3 in '24/'25/'26... 2025 second that also works.
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