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Post by ukhawk on Jun 27, 2024 1:50:54 GMT -6
Or maybe they got him cuz they’re taking a Russian in the draft? Don’t want them to be alone!!! doesn't mean anything likely but artyom levshunov and ilya mikheyev share the same agent (dan milstein) as per a CHGO podcast. Isn't he Demidov's agent too? Good move to bring in an older Russian sounding board who has been in North America for a few years to help any new Russian's settle like BigT said. Always liked Lafferty and thought he did well with us first time around, happy he is back for the short term.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 1:58:17 GMT -6
Or maybe they got him cuz they’re taking a Russian in the draft? Don’t want them to be alone!!! doesn't mean anything likely but artyom levshunov and ilya mikheyev share the same agent (dan milstein) as per a CHGO podcast. Demidov as well.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 27, 2024 2:31:42 GMT -6
doesn't mean anything likely but artyom levshunov and ilya mikheyev share the same agent (dan milstein) as per a CHGO podcast. Isn't he Demidov's agent too? Good move to bring in an older Russian sounding board who has been in North America for a few years to help any new Russian's settle like BigT said. Always liked Lafferty and thought he did well with us first time around, happy he is back for the short term. right you are. i must've missed that part. milstein is ukrainian born but doesn't seem to bear any ill will to his russian clients. ok...according to his wiki page he " was born to a Ukrainian-Jewish family in Kyiv, Ukraine, then part the Soviet Union. He was 10 years old when the Chernobyl nuclear plant blew up 78 miles north of his home in Kyiv, Ukraine, forcing a mandatory evacuation in 1986 and eventually political refugee status. He then moved to United States."so when he was born it was still the soviet union. pretty much his entire clientele is russian by the looks of it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Milstein
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Post by Tater on Jun 27, 2024 2:52:12 GMT -6
I don't mind getting Laffy-Taffy back. He busts his ass every shift and will stick up for teammates.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 27, 2024 3:41:07 GMT -6
good lord... wonder when the 2nd is then. 2027 would be great for that one as well, seeing as well 2, 2, and 3 in '24/'25/'26... 2025 second 2027 is fine also.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 4:01:29 GMT -6
there seems to be conflicting info on that pick still. I've seen this morning that it is indeed a 2027 pick. cap friendly has nada on it thus far.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 27, 2024 5:36:12 GMT -6
Sounds like Raddysh really wants to stay in Chicago but KD is moving on. I would've signed him to a 1yr show me deal.
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Post by BigT on Jun 27, 2024 5:56:31 GMT -6
Isn't he Demidov's agent too? Good move to bring in an older Russian sounding board who has been in North America for a few years to help any new Russian's settle like BigT said. Always liked Lafferty and thought he did well with us first time around, happy he is back for the short term. right you are. i must've missed that part. milstein is ukrainian born but doesn't seem to bear any ill will to his russian clients. ok...according to his wiki page he " was born to a Ukrainian-Jewish family in Kyiv, Ukraine, then part the Soviet Union. He was 10 years old when the Chernobyl nuclear plant blew up 78 miles north of his home in Kyiv, Ukraine, forcing a mandatory evacuation in 1986 and eventually political refugee status. He then moved to United States."so when he was born it was still the soviet union. pretty much his entire clientele is russian by the looks of it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_MilsteinA friend of mine “Pavel” is Ukrainian. But he’s more of the Russian Ukrainian. He and my father in law talk in their language all the time. He now runs his own version of Soviet era hockey training. My son does it. He even yells at me on the ice in Russian. A lot of Ukraine folk are actually in favour of Russia. A lot. Actually. His son is a year older than mine. His OHL draft year is next year. I believe he’ll be a first round pick in the OHL. His dad played in the OHL too. But he defected to play here. I’m sure Milsteins views are “who’s making me money”? I doubt he would give an opinion on what’s going on!!!
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Post by acesandeights on Jun 27, 2024 6:18:42 GMT -6
Sounds like Raddysh really wants to stay in Chicago but KD is moving on. I would've signed him to a 1yr show me deal. I would agree. They should have dangled a carrot in front of Raddysh.
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Post by Nikos on Jun 27, 2024 6:59:05 GMT -6
Mikheyev is 29. I think his developing is done. Just a salary dump with a 2nd. I like this move….. yesteryear!!! fair, but I still have a hard time not liking this trade. seems like a win to me. This is the type of trade KD should have made with Beauvillier IMO. I know the circumstances are little different Mikheyev has two years, where Beauvillier was on an expiring deal and Mikheyev cap hit is higher. In both cases he is helping Vancouver free up cap space, and you should be getting assets back, not taking on full money on and sending a pick back to Vancouver. I know the pick was only a 4th or 5th, but KD has the leverage and cap space is sooo valuable.
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Post by hsbob on Jun 27, 2024 9:17:22 GMT -6
Lafferty is high pace motor guy. Willing to do anything for the team. I like the guy too, but I'm told 'retreads never work'.
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Post by hsbob on Jun 27, 2024 11:47:14 GMT -6
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/blackhawks-reunite-with-forward-in-canuck-s-salary-dump-trade/ar-BB1oZcmK?ocid=msedgntphdr&cvid=04da9024fee44916935b2f6fb42847bc&ei=16"The Canucks were trying to find a team to dump his salary and they found it in Chicago." Will the team make an effort to become more competitive this summer as stated or continue to get cap-dumped on in a dizzying quest for even more picks? The completion of this year's draft will see the team collecting EIGHT years' worth of picks in just three drafts with surpluses already in the bank in the next few drats too. If the target is now more picks in '2027' for players who won't be ready until '2030',is the entire rest of the decade being written-off? Will a player who scored ONE goal in his last 61 reg and PO games who'll be 30 when the season starts offer Bedard anything? If a 195lb forward who's barely scraped 30 PIM's in a season and has never dropped em in an NHL contest is big and physical...........I'm the Easter Bunny. Did a serious knee injury impact his performance last year? Why let a 30 year old's serious knee injury concern ya.....it didn't concern em when they got Hall either.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jun 27, 2024 12:11:04 GMT -6
They way I see it: most of Entwistle, Anderson, Blackwell will be gone. Fourth line becomes: Donato, Slaggert, Lafferty + 1 extra of the above. Mikheyev replaces Raddysh. Third line: Dickinson, Nazar, Mickey. And I think the Hawks go for a FA who can be top 6.
The accumulated picks are like loose change in the cushions. It's always a nice surprise when you find a few quarters and dimes. They will be able to use the excess picks in trades.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 14:23:56 GMT -6
They way I see it: most of Entwistle, Anderson, Blackwell will be gone. Fourth line becomes: Donato, Slaggert, Lafferty + 1 extra of the above. Mikheyev replaces Raddysh. Third line: Dickinson, Nazar, Mickey. And I think the Hawks go for a FA who can be top 6. The accumulated picks are like loose change in the cushions. It's always a nice surprise when you find a few quarters and dimes. They will be able to use the excess picks in trades. from the 'hawks Athletic reporters, it sounds like Anderson is still a possible re-sign. Laff is going to have talks in Vegas but isn't a sure thing, as the 'hawks likely don't want to give him much term (what other team will, though?). he and Mik will round out the bottom 6, as you said. now we will see who they try and add to the top 6.
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Jun 27, 2024 14:36:17 GMT -6
right you are. i must've missed that part. milstein is ukrainian born but doesn't seem to bear any ill will to his russian clients. ok...according to his wiki page he " was born to a Ukrainian-Jewish family in Kyiv, Ukraine, then part the Soviet Union. He was 10 years old when the Chernobyl nuclear plant blew up 78 miles north of his home in Kyiv, Ukraine, forcing a mandatory evacuation in 1986 and eventually political refugee status. He then moved to United States."so when he was born it was still the soviet union. pretty much his entire clientele is russian by the looks of it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_MilsteinA friend of mine “Pavel” is Ukrainian. But he’s more of the Russian Ukrainian. He and my father in law talk in their language all the time. He now runs his own version of Soviet era hockey training. My son does it. He even yells at me on the ice in Russian. A lot of Ukraine folk are actually in favour of Russia. A lot. Actually. His son is a year older than mine. His OHL draft year is next year. I believe he’ll be a first round pick in the OHL. His dad played in the OHL too. But he defected to play here. I’m sure Milsteins views are “who’s making me money”? I doubt he would give an opinion on what’s going on!!! Hey T, not sure if this has been mentioned or not, however, I have heard through multiple outlets Ken Holland is coming to Chicago in some sort of capacity. There is also chatter on other rumoured sites, that are always looking for some traffic by placing ridiculous rumours that never see the day of late, however, If this were to be the case, Is KD on the clock? Does upper management want significant change and quicker than what KD is offering. Is a possible Holland hire a way of putting pressure on KD?
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Post by BigT on Jun 27, 2024 16:13:13 GMT -6
A friend of mine “Pavel” is Ukrainian. But he’s more of the Russian Ukrainian. He and my father in law talk in their language all the time. He now runs his own version of Soviet era hockey training. My son does it. He even yells at me on the ice in Russian. A lot of Ukraine folk are actually in favour of Russia. A lot. Actually. His son is a year older than mine. His OHL draft year is next year. I believe he’ll be a first round pick in the OHL. His dad played in the OHL too. But he defected to play here. I’m sure Milsteins views are “who’s making me money”? I doubt he would give an opinion on what’s going on!!! Hey T, not sure if this has been mentioned or not, however, I have heard through multiple outlets Ken Holland is coming to Chicago in some sort of capacity. There is also chatter on other rumoured sites, that are always looking for some traffic by placing ridiculous rumours that never see the day of late, however, If this were to be the case, Is KD on the clock? Does upper management want significant change and quicker than what KD is offering. Is a possible Holland hire a way of putting pressure on KD? I’ve read other GMs linked to the Hawks too. However, maybe, just maybe the Hawks are looking for a real President of hockey opps? As they should be. Personally, I’m doubting that KD can do much more than this. I almost think some of the players complained higher than KD. I don’t have proof. But it seems like some of the players weren’t happy with a lot of what KD did this past year. The help he brought in was Megna, Sanford etc. I think the Hawks may want some grey hair in there to look after the kids running this thing. As of now, who is the checks and balances guy? So I do believe the Hawks are kicking tires on a president!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 16:16:40 GMT -6
Hey T, not sure if this has been mentioned or not, however, I have heard through multiple outlets Ken Holland is coming to Chicago in some sort of capacity. There is also chatter on other rumoured sites, that are always looking for some traffic by placing ridiculous rumours that never see the day of late, however, If this were to be the case, Is KD on the clock? Does upper management want significant change and quicker than what KD is offering. Is a possible Holland hire a way of putting pressure on KD? I’ve read other GMs linked to the Hawks too. However, maybe, just maybe the Hawks are looking for a real President of hockey opps? As they should be. Personally, I’m doubting that KD can do much more than this. I almost think some of the players complained higher than KD. I don’t have proof. But it seems like some of the players weren’t happy with a lot of what KD did this past year. The help he brought in was Megna, Sanford etc. I think the Hawks may want some grey hair in there to look after the kids running this thing. As of now, who is the checks and balances guy? So I do believe the Hawks are kicking tires on a president!!! I'm fine with that as long as Holland has no say in player moves. we don't need him shitting our cap space away right now. patience is the order of the day.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 27, 2024 16:19:06 GMT -6
Hey T, not sure if this has been mentioned or not, however, I have heard through multiple outlets Ken Holland is coming to Chicago in some sort of capacity. There is also chatter on other rumoured sites, that are always looking for some traffic by placing ridiculous rumours that never see the day of late, however, If this were to be the case, Is KD on the clock? Does upper management want significant change and quicker than what KD is offering. Is a possible Holland hire a way of putting pressure on KD? I’ve read other GMs linked to the Hawks too. However, maybe, just maybe the Hawks are looking for a real President of hockey opps? As they should be. Personally, I’m doubting that KD can do much more than this. I almost think some of the players complained higher than KD. I don’t have proof. But it seems like some of the players weren’t happy with a lot of what KD did this past year. The help he brought in was Megna, Sanford etc. I think the Hawks may want some grey hair in there to look after the kids running this thing. As of now, who is the checks and balances guy? So I do believe the Hawks are kicking tires on a president!!! Ken Holland is terrible at his job. No offense to the players but they can ask out (Seth jones, Nick Foligno who took the payday)
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jun 27, 2024 16:34:13 GMT -6
They way I see it: most of Entwistle, Anderson, Blackwell will be gone. Fourth line becomes: Donato, Slaggert, Lafferty + 1 extra of the above. Mikheyev replaces Raddysh. Third line: Dickinson, Nazar, Mickey. And I think the Hawks go for a FA who can be top 6. The accumulated picks are like loose change in the cushions. It's always a nice surprise when you find a few quarters and dimes. They will be able to use the excess picks in trades. from the 'hawks Athletic reporters, it sounds like Anderson is still a possible re-sign. Laff is going to have talks in Vegas but isn't a sure thing, as the 'hawks likely don't want to give him much term (what other team will, though?). he and Mik will round out the bottom 6, as you said. now we will see who they try and add to the top 6. I would've preferred Blackwell, but Anderson is younger and sturdier, I suppose. As far as the top six acquisition, I am going to hazard a guess: Teräväinen.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 16:40:51 GMT -6
from the 'hawks Athletic reporters, it sounds like Anderson is still a possible re-sign. Laff is going to have talks in Vegas but isn't a sure thing, as the 'hawks likely don't want to give him much term (what other team will, though?). he and Mik will round out the bottom 6, as you said. now we will see who they try and add to the top 6. I would've preferred Blackwell, but Anderson is younger and sturdier, I suppose. As far as the top six acquisition, I am going to hazard a guess: Teräväinen. I hope not, but we will see.
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Post by BigT on Jun 27, 2024 17:00:03 GMT -6
KD has his thing with Bedards contract year. He doesn’t want any contract to go further. I’m not sure I fully understand that. It’s like basically saying the rebuild will last till Bedard is re-signed. I’m sure there’s a lot of people second guessing him. Hence the reason for all the speculation of Holland and a president coming in!!!
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Post by 2old4this on Jun 27, 2024 17:49:52 GMT -6
I don't mind getting Laffy-Taffy back. He busts his ass every shift and will stick up for teammates. The energizer bunny.
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 27, 2024 18:07:47 GMT -6
KD has his thing with Bedards contract year. He doesn’t want any contract to go further. I’m not sure I fully understand that. It’s like basically saying the rebuild will last till Bedard is re-signed. I’m sure there’s a lot of people second guessing him. Hence the reason for all the speculation of Holland and a president coming in!!! Last I checked, KH has 3 cups on his GM resume. Fared much better in Detroit than Edmonton, sure, but at worst this seems like a steadying-hand approach to what appears to be brightening future. If Holland is considering it, I would guess he sees the potential built so far. He comes from the correct Bowman's career tree - and not the bean-counter's. If there is a fit that he sees and he still has some fire, I think that it would be an intelligent hire. Maybe says something about Norm Maciver's overall effectiveness? Or it means nothing at all beyond hiring an intelligent hockey guy and HOF'er to add his input to an up-and-coming (hopefully) team.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 18:13:04 GMT -6
KD has his thing with Bedards contract year. He doesn’t want any contract to go further. I’m not sure I fully understand that. It’s like basically saying the rebuild will last till Bedard is re-signed. I’m sure there’s a lot of people second guessing him. Hence the reason for all the speculation of Holland and a president coming in!!! Last I checked, KH has 3 cups on his GM resume. Fared much better in Detroit than Edmonton, sure, but at worst this seems like a steadying-hand approach to what appears to be brightening future. If Holland is considering it, I would guess he sees the potential built so far. He comes from the correct Bowman's career tree - and not the bean-counter's. If there is a fit that he sees and he still has some fire, I think that it would be an intelligent hire. Maybe says something about Norm Maciver's overall effectiveness? Or it means nothing at all beyond hiring an intelligent hockey guy and HOF'er to add his input to an up-and-coming (hopefully) team. Ken Holland is worthless at team building, he had a ready made team handed to him in detroit. he ran them into the ground once he had to rebuild, something they are still recovering from. sound familiar? hard pass.
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 27, 2024 18:56:23 GMT -6
Last I checked, KH has 3 cups on his GM resume. Fared much better in Detroit than Edmonton, sure, but at worst this seems like a steadying-hand approach to what appears to be brightening future. If Holland is considering it, I would guess he sees the potential built so far. He comes from the correct Bowman's career tree - and not the bean-counter's. If there is a fit that he sees and he still has some fire, I think that it would be an intelligent hire. Maybe says something about Norm Maciver's overall effectiveness? Or it means nothing at all beyond hiring an intelligent hockey guy and HOF'er to add his input to an up-and-coming (hopefully) team. Ken Holland is worthless at team building, he had a ready made team handed to him in detroit. he ran them into the ground once he had to rebuild, something they are still recovering from. sound familiar? hard pass. Compare the team he inherited in 1997 (https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000341998.html) to the team he won the cup with in 2008 (https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000342008.html) - that roster was completely overhauled, esp. with where he nabbed Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filpula, and Kronwall in the draft, plus finding a proper niche for failed Blackhawk Dan Cleary. Adding Hasek in 2001. Holdovers from 1997 incl. Lidstrom and Holmstrom. That seems to be it - Lidstrom is all-time great, but even an all-time great cannot will a team to multiple cups over a decade-plus without significant help. To say that Holland was worthless at team building is to find fault with Jerry Krause's general manager tenure and his decidedly-great run given his futility with Tim Floyd in the final years.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 28, 2024 0:49:18 GMT -6
Ken Holland is worthless at team building, he had a ready made team handed to him in detroit. he ran them into the ground once he had to rebuild, something they are still recovering from. sound familiar? hard pass. Compare the team he inherited in 1997 (https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000341998.html) to the team he won the cup with in 2008 (https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000342008.html) - that roster was completely overhauled, esp. with where he nabbed Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filpula, and Kronwall in the draft, plus finding a proper niche for failed Blackhawk Dan Cleary. Adding Hasek in 2001. Holdovers from 1997 incl. Lidstrom and Holmstrom. That seems to be it - Lidstrom is all-time great, but even an all-time great cannot will a team to multiple cups over a decade-plus without significant help. To say that Holland was worthless at team building is to find fault with Jerry Krause's general manager tenure and his decidedly-great run given his futility with Tim Floyd in the final years. yeah, I had a feeling this would probably be the response here, seeing as I was so negative toward the idea, which was probably unfair, but... so, lemme start by saying, nothing that happened before the lockout counts as building a team or rebuilding one, if you'd like to call it that. we all know here that before the cap, the wangs had one of the largest payrolls in the league and had one of the best teams money could buy year in/year out. the team he inherited in 97 through the lockout year are not evidence of him being a good GM, imo. he just went out and bought hall of famers every off season and got them one more Cup out of the ridiculously good core group he walked into. this time frame includes 3 of their 4 Cup wins. during this time Lidstrom had A LOT of help. let's look at the hall of famers they went through during this stretch: Yzerman, Lidstrom, Shanahan, Hull, Robitaille... ok I'm already tired of listing them. their team in 01-02 had TEN of them. soooo, yeah... good job by him to assemble an all star team with an unlimited budget, I suppose. now, with those years eliminated, we can look at his tenure post lockout, as once the cap was instituted, his job was much more difficult. I will give him credit for retooling that 2008 team. similar to Bowman after 2010, he had a base build upon and he did a pretty good job of it. they got a Cup in 08 and went to the Final in 09. but, just like Bowman, the wheels fell off after that. he flailed and tried to buy more good teams with terrible free agent signings and traded away draft picks in a vain attempt at more glory, but to no avail. he ran that team into the ground once he didn't have future hall of famers as a base, which he didn't have because he either: traded away all the draft picks, spent too much on horrible contracts, and/or didn't do a good enough job of drafting players to replace the ones that aged out. I don't think he is an awful GM, I think he is very similar to Bowman, in that he can assemble a team around guys that are already there. I don't think we have that sort of team yet and bringing him in would, imo, signal a change that we aren't ready for as yet. I also do not care for the idea of having a GM looking over his shoulder, worrying that his replacement is already in the building. hiring a guy like Holland would do that, regardless of what title they gave him. go ask wangs fans about him. they sound the same way we do about Bowman and give more credit to his predecessor for building the base he rode for a decade (and, honestly, his 2008 team was largely a part of the ridiculously good scouting department the wangs had in the 90's/early 00's). the shorter response here is: I do not think he is the appropriate hire at this stage of the rebuild. a guy like him would be helpful if KfC struggles in 2-3 years with a stacked prospect pool but can't seem to get the right free agents/vets in the building with the young core he has built. until we get to that point, let's let things marinate here.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 28, 2024 5:51:40 GMT -6
Question for our group to ponder over. When the front office was disbanded and they started a "search" for a GM and had Hossa, Sharp and Eddie O to "advise".
To me that was a huge error. Priority should have been Hockey OPS President first, to me Eddie would have been a good choice. I think Eddie didn't want that position because he loves to travel and broadcast games nationally as well as home team.
Then with a real front office type mind like Eddie the choice for GM would have been easier I feel. If they get a new President now, will he/she still want KD in the GM seat? Even though his assistants are capable.
Norm Maciver Associate General Manager
Mark Eaton Asst. General Manager, Player Development
Meghan Hunter Asst. General Manager, Hockey Operations
Brian Campbell Advisor, Hockey Operations
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Post by vadarx on Jun 28, 2024 6:53:27 GMT -6
Question for our group to ponder over. When the front office was disbanded and they started a "search" for a GM and had Hossa, Sharp and Eddie O to "advise". To me that was a huge error. Priority should have been Hockey OPS President first, to me Eddie would have been a good choice. I think Eddie didn't want that position because he loves to travel and broadcast games nationally as well as home team. Then with a real front office type mind like Eddie the choice for GM would have been easier I feel. If they get a new President now, will he/she still want KD in the GM seat? Even though his assistants are capable. Norm Maciver Associate General Manager Mark Eaton Asst. General Manager, Player Development Meghan Hunter Asst. General Manager, Hockey Operations Brian Campbell Advisor, Hockey Operations I am pretty sure Edzo didn't get the job, and subsequently left for Seattle, for the same reason 19 and 88 weren't given lifetime deals. the punishment for the Beach thing was quietly far reaching...
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Post by hsbob on Jun 28, 2024 7:38:45 GMT -6
Question for our group to ponder over. When the front office was disbanded and they started a "search" for a GM and had Hossa, Sharp and Eddie O to "advise". To me that was a huge error. Priority should have been Hockey OPS President first, to me Eddie would have been a good choice. I think Eddie didn't want that position because he loves to travel and broadcast games nationally as well as home team. Then with a real front office type mind like Eddie the choice for GM would have been easier I feel. If they get a new President now, will he/she still want KD in the GM seat? Even though his assistants are capable. Norm Maciver Associate General Manager Mark Eaton Asst. General Manager, Player Development Meghan Hunter Asst. General Manager, Hockey Operations Brian Campbell Advisor, Hockey Operations I am pretty sure Edzo didn't get the job, and subsequently left for Seattle, for the same reason 19 and 88 weren't given lifetime deals. the punishment for the Beach thing was quietly far reaching... SELECTIVELY "far reaching" IMO. Brian Campbell was a HIGH paid veteran voice in that room at the time and Frasier was there too,both still employed by the Org. Also,is there any doubt Big Hoss gets a FO or coaching position if he desires one? THE most well respected veteran voice in any room. What in the hell did Edzo do?
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Post by BigT on Jun 28, 2024 8:05:25 GMT -6
I am pretty sure Edzo didn't get the job, and subsequently left for Seattle, for the same reason 19 and 88 weren't given lifetime deals. the punishment for the Beach thing was quietly far reaching... SELECTIVELY "far reaching" IMO. Brian Campbell was a HIGH paid veteran voice in that room at the time and Frasier was there too,both still employed by the Org. Also,is there any doubt Big Hoss gets a FO or coaching position if he desires one? THE most well respected veteran voice in any room. What in the hell did Edzo do? Bob, I don’t know what anyone did on their own. But the org believes or knows that some of the people were more deeply involved than others. Toews, Kane, Edzo, even Foley. They made sure Foley was outta there shortly after that report. I remember hearing from a buddy that works in the NHL, he said that a lot of good people will go down because of this, and it’s unfair. Maybe Danny Wirtz has to be in the ground before the team does something nice for the major players in the Hawks Cup? I fear that Danny is keeping a dead man’s (his dad) grievance alive. Just let it go. What would Danny have done differently at age 20/21 if he was in this situation? To blame everyone but themselves is Homer Simpson material. “ Sure it’s easy to blame ourselves, but it’s even easier to blame someone else”. ~Homer Simpson!!!
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