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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 30, 2024 18:15:09 GMT -6
Bedards got a single season under his blades. He’ll be fine. Unfortunately the last GMs picks are doing most of the heavy lifting right now. Vlasic, Kurashev, Phillips, Kaiser, EDM, Allan, Reichel, Slaggert etc. Yesterday’s draft seen at least 5-6 huge dmen get drafted in the early 2nd round. All had great numbers. Just a little lanky. I’d rather have kept all 3 second rounders and loaded up on 6’4” d prospects. I also believe everyone of them was a righty. He could have loaded up 3 more righties on D, and picked the actual best player available at 2. Then the best at 18. I do not mind the Boisvert pick. Just not at 18. I’d have to think Eisermann will come back and haunt a lot of teams. Anyways. Just cuz they can skate fast doesn’t mean they hockey well. I think this group is mired in the allusion of skating is the be all end all. Patty Maroon has won 3 Cups and may be the worst skater we’ve ever seen. He does his job well. That’s all you can ask. Skating helps, but we all know it doesn’t have to be just that. I’m not sold on a team of smaller speedier guys lasting 4 rounds. But that’s just me!!! I also wanted forwards with the first rounders and then d in the second, but here we are. I continue to agree that the speed thing has gotten out of hand. pretty sure we said the same thing after last year's draft. their belief that they can add size might be a bit misguided, imo. at some point, we are likely going to have to pay out the ass to get someone. at what point does Brady want out of Ottawa? he is EXACTLY what we need on this team. It's not like they only look for speed, they also look at IQ and character and the Hawks have put together a good group of prospects. And the three they drafted this year that are considered the fastest are 6'1" to 6'3". So now KDs adding size. You said you wanted forwards in the first round and 2 of the 3 picks were forwards. And Boisvert isn't known for his speed, but he's tall and really strong. So I don't get why so many people are complaining that KD only looks at speed.
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Post by BigT on Jun 30, 2024 19:15:37 GMT -6
Here’s another thing. What if none of the UFA’s he wants will take a 2 year deal? Or even a 3 year deal? Good chance KD is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Hopefully there’s someone he wants that’ll take a 2 year contract and be overpaid for it!!!
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Post by LordKOTL on Jun 30, 2024 19:28:59 GMT -6
Bedards got a single season under his blades. He’ll be fine. Unfortunately the last GMs picks are doing most of the heavy lifting right now. Vlasic, Kurashev, Phillips, Kaiser, EDM, Allan, Reichel, Slaggert etc. Yesterday’s draft seen at least 5-6 huge dmen get drafted in the early 2nd round. All had great numbers. Just a little lanky. I’d rather have kept all 3 second rounders and loaded up on 6’4” d prospects. I also believe everyone of them was a righty. He could have loaded up 3 more righties on D, and picked the actual best player available at 2. Then the best at 18. I do not mind the Boisvert pick. Just not at 18. I’d have to think Eisermann will come back and haunt a lot of teams. Anyways. Just cuz they can skate fast doesn’t mean they hockey well. I think this group is mired in the allusion of skating is the be all end all. Patty Maroon has won 3 Cups and may be the worst skater we’ve ever seen. He does his job well. That’s all you can ask. Skating helps, but we all know it doesn’t have to be just that. I’m not sold on a team of smaller speedier guys lasting 4 rounds. But that’s just me!!! I also wanted forwards with the first rounders and then d in the second, but here we are. I continue to agree that the speed thing has gotten out of hand. pretty sure we said the same thing after last year's draft. their belief that they can add size might be a bit misguided, imo. at some point, we are likely going to have to pay out the ass to get someone. at what point does Brady want out of Ottawa? he is EXACTLY what we need on this team. We'll have to pay out the ass to get anyone worth a squirt of piss. Big top 4 2-way RHD? Yep. Big 2-way top 6 center? Yep. Scoring help for Bedard? Yep. Physical top-6 fwd with size? Yep. No matter how you slice it the 'hawks were not coming out of the draft with all their needs met. They will have to pay out the ass in the FA and trade market to get players who fill a need and aren't as useless as a cock-flavored lollipop. Has the draft gone different, we'd just be paying out the ass for a different type of player than the ones we need to now. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 20:20:59 GMT -6
I also wanted forwards with the first rounders and then d in the second, but here we are. I continue to agree that the speed thing has gotten out of hand. pretty sure we said the same thing after last year's draft. their belief that they can add size might be a bit misguided, imo. at some point, we are likely going to have to pay out the ass to get someone. at what point does Brady want out of Ottawa? he is EXACTLY what we need on this team. It's not like they only look for speed, they also look at IQ and character and the Hawks have put together a good group of prospects. And the three they drafted this year that are considered the fastest are 6'1" to 6'3". So now KDs adding size. You said you wanted forwards in the first round and 2 of the 3 picks were forwards. And Boisvert isn't known for his speed, but he's tall and really strong. So I don't get why so many people are complaining that KD only looks at speed. I am not saying the 'hawks haven't put together a good group of prospects, I believe they have and will continue to. i am saying the 'hawks have a definite type, to the point that our lead scout is getting messages from other teams about it. speed is pretty clearly their thing. Doneghey has basically said as much, along with the other attributes you mentioned. he has also said the same thing KfC has mentioned as far as adding size later on, through free agency or trades.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 30, 2024 22:20:31 GMT -6
we'll find out soon i guess.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 30, 2024 22:23:02 GMT -6
It's not like they only look for speed, they also look at IQ and character and the Hawks have put together a good group of prospects. And the three they drafted this year that are considered the fastest are 6'1" to 6'3". So now KDs adding size. You said you wanted forwards in the first round and 2 of the 3 picks were forwards. And Boisvert isn't known for his speed, but he's tall and really strong. So I don't get why so many people are complaining that KD only looks at speed. I am not saying the 'hawks haven't put together a good group of prospects, I believe they have and will continue to. i am saying the 'hawks have a definite type, to the point that our lead scout is getting messages from other teams about it. speed is pretty clearly their thing. Doneghey has basically said as much, along with the other attributes you mentioned. he has also said the same thing KfC has mentioned as far as adding size later on, through free agency or trades. When KD brought in Luke he said he wants guys that'll fit into his up tempo style of play. Luke wants a defensive team that'll cover gaps fast and transition. So of course speed is a big factor. And yeah size can be added through trades and signings but every player they drafted this year is 6'1" and up, two in the first. So in 3yrs KD drafted two forwards in the first round 6'1" and up, two forwards in the second 6'1" and up. And many picks in the 3rd with a lot of size, the odds look good.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 22:37:44 GMT -6
we'll find out soon i guess. I don't know if I like that, but I reckon it depends more on term and no dammed nmcs.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 30, 2024 22:47:27 GMT -6
we'll find out soon i guess. I'd like to see Pesce and Debrusk added.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 22:53:12 GMT -6
we'll find out soon i guess. I'd like to see Pesce and Debrusk added. after looking some things over, I am revising my previous statement. rather than Stephenson, I will take Wennberg. either works,, though. the other two big additions I might like would be Matt Roy and Jonathan Marchessault. I figure after those 3, we'd have about 10 million left with 12 forwards and 5 d-men. that leaves 1-2 forwards spots and 2 d spots open for the young guys or cheap/short deals.
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Post by squishy24 on Jun 30, 2024 23:43:35 GMT -6
“While the Blackhawks asked for the negotiating rights to Sam Lafferty to be added in the Ilya Mikheyev trade earlier this week, Scott Powers and Mark Lazerus of The Athletic report that the veteran will test the market. Lafferty spent parts of two years with Chicago and had discussions on a new deal with them following his rights being acquired but instead will see what’s out there.”
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Post by ukhawk on Jul 1, 2024 1:41:49 GMT -6
Rumours of Tyler Bertuzzi on a 4 year deal
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Post by Tater on Jul 1, 2024 2:25:55 GMT -6
Rumours of Tyler Bertuzzi on a 4 year deal He always looks like he could be on meth. All greasy and such.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 1, 2024 2:43:40 GMT -6
Rumours of Tyler Bertuzzi on a 4 year deal I wouldn't hate it, but he will be an expensive middle 6 guy. can up and down the lineup.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 1, 2024 3:48:21 GMT -6
Well...whether this means anything or not it appears it's "out there" now.
First impression...not a fan.
Second impression...I wasn't a fan of domi at first either so will hold judgement.
Plays a similar style to domi. Prone to dumb penalties and like was said, both can play up/down the lineup.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 1, 2024 5:41:11 GMT -6
Well...whether this means anything or not it appears it's "out there" now. First impression...not a fan. Second impression...I wasn't a fan of domi at first either so will hold judgement. Plays a similar style to domi. Prone to dumb penalties and like was said, both can play up/down the lineup. I'm OK with this. Wouldn't be my first choice but if we can get a full 82 games out of a combination of Bertuzzi and Hall - there's Bedard's LW. He's 29 so 4-years is fine.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 5:59:58 GMT -6
4 years $5.5 for Bertuzzi
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 1, 2024 6:11:53 GMT -6
4 years $5.5 for Bertuzzi 5th contract he's signed since his first contract and the first time he hasn't got a raise in pay (last contract was 5.5 also) so I guess there's that but still too much but it was always going to be too much. Anyhow...good luck in Chicago.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 1, 2024 6:12:41 GMT -6
4 years $5.5 for Bertuzzi That seems a little high but if he can stay healthy not overly so. Now go find a way to wrestle McGroarty from Winnipeg and sign a decent veteran RD and call it an off season.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 6:35:23 GMT -6
4 years $5.5 for Bertuzzi That seems a little high but if he can stay healthy not overly so. Now go find a way to wrestle McGroarty from Winnipeg and sign a decent veteran RD and call it an off season. Will say any free agency prices will be inflated. My guess the aav stayed up for one less year on his term
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Post by BigT on Jul 1, 2024 6:41:06 GMT -6
He’s one player I don’t mind. And it wasn’t a shitty 2 year deal. If I glad they’re stepping away from the ledge on those 2 year deals.
I know many won’t believe this. But Bertuzzi is a guy that could really surprise and score 30+ goals. He’s more than likely playing with Bedard.
There won’t be many more big name signings like him I’d have to think. Gotta find time for kids too.
Just some food for thought. Would it be worth it to swap Reichel for Kakko? Or some kind of deal like that? Rangers seem destined to trade him. Even if he becomes a good 3rd liner, I’m ok with that!!!
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 6:46:16 GMT -6
Hawks in on goalie Anthony Stolarz At least 3 teams in the mix
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 1, 2024 6:56:06 GMT -6
Well I will be traveling today hope the hawks get some pieces today cant sit through another year like last year.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 1, 2024 7:16:59 GMT -6
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 7:50:29 GMT -6
Still need that 2C - hopefully we get one
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Post by Nikos on Jul 1, 2024 7:50:31 GMT -6
He’s one player I don’t mind. And it wasn’t a shitty 2 year deal. If I glad they’re stepping away from the ledge on those 2 year deals. I know many won’t believe this. But Bertuzzi is a guy that could really surprise and score 30+ goals. He’s more than likely playing with Bedard. There won’t be many more big name signings like him I’d have to think. Gotta find time for kids too. Just some food for thought. Would it be worth it to swap Reichel for Kakko? Or some kind of deal like that? Rangers seem destined to trade him. Even if he becomes a good 3rd liner, I’m ok with that!!! Scored 30 one-year in Detroit, so possibly playing full time with Bedard he could get close again. I like the signing, 4 years a bit too long, but cost of doing business now to get deal done.
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Post by BigT on Jul 1, 2024 8:00:00 GMT -6
If any of this is true. Hawks will have a decent roster.
Kurashev-Bedard-Bertuzzi. Hall-AA-TT Nazar-Dicky-Matinook Slaggert-Foligno-Mikheyev
Might not be Cup worthy, but I believe they’ll battle it out for a playoff spot.
Just need a solid RHD!!!
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 1, 2024 8:01:58 GMT -6
Alex Martinez to Chicago one year deal
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 8:05:19 GMT -6
If any of this is true. Hawks will have a decent roster. Kurashev-Bedard-Bertuzzi. Hall-AA-TT Nazar-Dicky-Matinook Slaggert-Foligno-Mikheyev Might not be Cup worthy, but I believe they’ll battle it out for a playoff spot. Just need a solid RHD!!! Five of them has histories of missing a lot of games. A couple of rookies and an aging Foligno And im trying to be an optimist *fingers crossed*
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 1, 2024 8:05:23 GMT -6
Alex Martinez to Chicago one year deal Not the dman I wanted but he's an upgrade over Tinordi and Megna, and it's only 1yr.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 1, 2024 8:10:08 GMT -6
Alex Martinez to Chicago one year deal Not the dman I wanted but he's an upgrade over Tinordi and Megna, and it's only 1yr. I would agree, but Tinordi and Megna are huge guys with snarl. Hopefully neither one of them get re-signed for that purpose
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