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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 0:35:30 GMT -6
welp, now that the draft is over, it is free agency time.
what player(s) would folks here like the 'hawks to sign?
I'd start with Chandler Stephenson, personally. he has won two Cups and (hopefully) wouldn't sign that onerous of a contract. just turned 30 in April. he made 2.75 per the past 3 years in Vegas. he would immediately be our second line center, has centered a pp1 in Vegas and has killed penalties.
I only wonder how much he wants and if he would come to play in Chicago.
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Post by Tater on Jun 30, 2024 2:00:17 GMT -6
welp, now that the draft is over, it is free agency time. what player(s) would folks here like the 'hawks to sign? I'd start with Chandler Stephenson, personally. he has won two Cups and (hopefully) wouldn't sign that onerous of a contract. just turned 30 in April. he made 2.75 per the past 3 years in Vegas. he would immediately be our second line center, has centered a pp1 in Vegas and has killed penalties. I only wonder how much he wants and if he would come to play in Chicago. I like that idea. We need a solid 2nd line center to take some heat off Bedard.
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Post by Nikos on Jun 30, 2024 6:08:45 GMT -6
welp, now that the draft is over, it is free agency time. what player(s) would folks here like the 'hawks to sign? I'd start with Chandler Stephenson, personally. he has won two Cups and (hopefully) wouldn't sign that onerous of a contract. just turned 30 in April. he made 2.75 per the past 3 years in Vegas. he would immediately be our second line center, has centered a pp1 in Vegas and has killed penalties. I only wonder how much he wants and if he would come to play in Chicago. I like Stephenson and will add Matt Duchene, although Dallas is trying to resign him.
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Post by hsbob on Jun 30, 2024 7:02:41 GMT -6
welp, now that the draft is over, it is free agency time. what player(s) would folks here like the 'hawks to sign? I'd start with Chandler Stephenson, personally. he has won two Cups and (hopefully) wouldn't sign that onerous of a contract. just turned 30 in April. he made 2.75 per the past 3 years in Vegas. he would immediately be our second line center, has centered a pp1 in Vegas and has killed penalties. I only wonder how much he wants and if he would come to play in Chicago. More 30yro's with picks attached and more 30yro's on short-terms through FA reminded me of an old country song...... www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVyXecolaZoThe team had the draft capitol(still does really),an over-abundance of 21-23yro LS D-men and the cap-space to pry a good,YOUNG forward away from one pick-starved team or another before the draft. The Panthers only watched in the first two rounds this year and even a Cup champ in 'win now' mode knows it can't ignore the future for too long,no 1st next year either.....that's a BIG void in any system. I believe they'd have listened to pre-draft offers for 22yro Lundell and/or 26yro Bennett,losing any of Reinhart,Montour or Ekblad(as rumored) will all leave huge holes in their line-up. Do they let Verhaeghe get to free agency w/o a new deal next year too?
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 30, 2024 7:07:40 GMT -6
welp, now that the draft is over, it is free agency time. what player(s) would folks here like the 'hawks to sign? daniel sprong kind've popped for me but i'm horrible at this shit.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 30, 2024 7:41:20 GMT -6
welp, now that the draft is over, it is free agency time. what player(s) would folks here like the 'hawks to sign? daniel sprong kind've popped for me but i'm horrible at this shit. Here's the list of UFA's from CapFriendly. www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 30, 2024 8:28:25 GMT -6
Teuvo, Trenin, samsonov and A righty dman
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Post by hsbob on Jun 30, 2024 8:35:36 GMT -6
I'd add 27yro certified BADASS Brandon Duhaime to my bottom-six! Offer this physical/energetic player 2M for 3yrs and he'd have some career security which would breed loyalty and commitment IMO. Soon to be 37yro Nick Foligno can't be relied on to settle everybody else's hash single-handedly for two more years....can he?
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Post by BigT on Jun 30, 2024 8:44:39 GMT -6
I’d love to see them take on a contract. Maybe Laine or something like this. If they’re going half assed. Then go full ass. Just tank for the next two years. Get the high end talent you need and go from there. No use pretending to be something you’re not. I’m all for the tank. I’ve stated many times that the Hawks need at least one more tank year. There just not enough high end talent. They’ve had two top 3 picks. It’s very difficult to rebuild a team properly with just that. Every team has had many high picks.
Look at NJ, two 1st overalls, a 4th overall, a 5th. Tampa- 1/2 overalls, 6, 10. Oilers 4 first overalls, 3, 7, 4, 10, 8.
Hawks currently have a 1, 2, 7. That’s it for the top 10. Unless they’re gonna fill the roster with UFAs and trades. I think they’ll stay the course. I don’t expect much. Just replace what they’re losing to free agency!!!
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Post by BigT on Jun 30, 2024 8:46:58 GMT -6
I'd add 27yro certified BADASS Brandon Duhaime to my bottom-six! Offer this physical/energetic player 2M for 3yrs and he'd have some career security which would breed loyalty and commitment IMO. Soon to be 37yro Nick Foligno can't be relied on to settle everybody else's hash single-handedly for two more years....can he? Bob I fear there’s only 2 year deals being given out. I don’t like it either. I really won’t expect much to be honest. I don’t think there’s much out there this year, and I don’t believe the current team is ready for another step. I think the team will do nothing again if injuries happen. Gotta tank if you’re gonna tank!!!
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Post by hsbob on Jun 30, 2024 9:05:37 GMT -6
I'd add 27yro certified BADASS Brandon Duhaime to my bottom-six! Offer this physical/energetic player 2M for 3yrs and he'd have some career security which would breed loyalty and commitment IMO. Soon to be 37yro Nick Foligno can't be relied on to settle everybody else's hash single-handedly for two more years....can he? Bob I fear there’s only 2 year deals being given out. I don’t like it either. I really won’t expect much to be honest. I don’t think there’s much out there this year, and I don’t believe the current team is ready for another step. I think the team will do nothing again if injuries happen. Gotta tank if you’re gonna tank!!!Tying-up 14.25M worth of cap-space in Hall,AA and Mikheyev oughta facilitate the 'tank' for sure but shouldn't any FO that drafted EIGHT years-worth of 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks the last three drafts have their rebuild well under way? Vlasik looks like a top-pair D-man,KK looks like he belonged in the league @19 and Bedard looks to be that generational talent we all hoped for.......how do even more 'tank' season affect him?
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Post by BigT on Jun 30, 2024 9:34:30 GMT -6
Bob I fear there’s only 2 year deals being given out. I don’t like it either. I really won’t expect much to be honest. I don’t think there’s much out there this year, and I don’t believe the current team is ready for another step. I think the team will do nothing again if injuries happen. Gotta tank if you’re gonna tank!!!Tying-up 14.25M worth of cap-space in Hall,AA and Mikheyev oughta facilitate the 'tank' for sure but shouldn't any FO that drafted EIGHT years-worth of 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks the last three drafts have their rebuild well under way? Vlasik looks like a top-pair D-man,KK looks like he belonged in the league @19 and Bedard looks to be that generational talent we all hoped for.......how do even more 'tank' season affect him? Bedards got a single season under his blades. He’ll be fine. Unfortunately the last GMs picks are doing most of the heavy lifting right now. Vlasic, Kurashev, Phillips, Kaiser, EDM, Allan, Reichel, Slaggert etc. Yesterday’s draft seen at least 5-6 huge dmen get drafted in the early 2nd round. All had great numbers. Just a little lanky. I’d rather have kept all 3 second rounders and loaded up on 6’4” d prospects. I also believe everyone of them was a righty. He could have loaded up 3 more righties on D, and picked the actual best player available at 2. Then the best at 18. I do not mind the Boisvert pick. Just not at 18. I’d have to think Eisermann will come back and haunt a lot of teams. Anyways. Just cuz they can skate fast doesn’t mean they hockey well. I think this group is mired in the allusion of skating is the be all end all. Patty Maroon has won 3 Cups and may be the worst skater we’ve ever seen. He does his job well. That’s all you can ask. Skating helps, but we all know it doesn’t have to be just that. I’m not sold on a team of smaller speedier guys lasting 4 rounds. But that’s just me!!!
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 9:56:50 GMT -6
T gotta ask who out of KDs picks has taken a step back? I believe either pick last night could play a top 6 role neither are line generators but could play top 6. Let’s say Bedard wasn’t here. Would you still be enthusiastic about this rebuild? I know I wouldn’t. I think they have some NHL players here, but I don’t see the overall talent up front. And I hate hearing people throwing out 3rd and 4th round picks with size. Are those the guys that are gonna lead this thing? Your top guys need size. So we’re looking at our top picks and prospects as Bedard, Nazar, Moore, Lardis, Boisvert, Vanacker. Is that the future top 6? Look at every teams top players. Barkov, Tkachuk etc. Big. Draisaitl -McDavid, Robertson- W Johnston, Mathews-Nylander, B Tkachuk-Stutzle, the list goes on and on. Gotta have size and skill almost all of those guys were drafted at the top of the board. I feel like Levshunov will be an Ekblad type. Probably a 3-4 dman. They could be had in free agency instead of a top draft pick. I hope I’m wrong. But it doesn’t look that great as of now. Way too many undersized guys. And to those who think it doesn’t matter, you e never played against a team of giants. There’s no room and they just physically push you around. This was the draft to signal the beginning of the end. I see more questions than answers. Too much uncertainty for having 8 gawd dam first round picks in 3 years!!! You say it so much better than I do, but we are thinking along the same lines. Until they show me otherwise, I have no real hopes for this franchise except perhaps being a playoff team in the next 5 years.
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 10:02:25 GMT -6
Thanks for that----it was good to see all the names. I am not going to put in the effort to even make an educated guess. I'll just wait and see, but it was good to see who is available.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 30, 2024 11:16:34 GMT -6
Phillips qualified
Hawks did not qualify Raddysh, Entwistle and Johnson
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Post by ukhawk on Jun 30, 2024 11:45:10 GMT -6
Phillips qualified Hawks did not qualify Raddysh, Entwistle and Johnson Not surprised on any of these to be honest. I dont mind Phillips, but he will have to really push on to take a starting spot.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 30, 2024 14:10:30 GMT -6
Thanks for that----it was good to see all the names. I am not going to put in the effort to even make an educated guess. I'll just wait and see, but it was good to see who is available. You can narrow the UFA's also by Height, Weight and age.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 14:33:27 GMT -6
Phillips qualified Hawks did not qualify Raddysh, Entwistle and Johnson no surprises there. I'm interested in Anderson and also whether Lafferty is signed in the next 30 minutes...
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 14:41:59 GMT -6
Thanks for that----it was good to see all the names. I am not going to put in the effort to even make an educated guess. I'll just wait and see, but it was good to see who is available. You can narrow the UFA's also by Height, Weight and age. I saw all the traits one can pick to narrow the search, but it was too much effort for me. As said, I'll just wait for the news stories. No sense in guessing, what will be will be and I'll see the stories soon enough after they happen.
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 30, 2024 14:43:05 GMT -6
My worry is this. He’s loaded the team with expiring contracts in 2 years time. To my knowledge, I see Seth and Vlasic as the only guys under contract last there. So the problem is this. 80-90% of those guys will have taken their money and leave. Sure a few will re-sign but there’s going to be massive turnover. And more than likely a team full of rookies and inexperienced guys. I see absolutely no high end talent coming to help out the offense. What I see is a bunch of guys drafted that will be middle 6 players. We almost have to hope that the Hawks tank again next year and get another top 3 pick. I don’t get what they’re doing. It’s really starting to remind me of the last guy, the smartest guy in the room bullshit. Can’t have one guy that is doing everything. We’ll see if this guy has any trades coming or what free agents. But my guess is he’s sticking to his 2 year deals and will land no one but a couple drifters looking for a deal!!! Drifters or grifters.
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Post by mvr on Jun 30, 2024 14:59:16 GMT -6
I’d love to see them take on a contract. Maybe Laine or something like this. If they’re going half assed. Then go full ass. Just tank for the next two years. Get the high end talent you need and go from there. No use pretending to be something you’re not. I’m all for the tank. I’ve stated many times that the Hawks need at least one more tank year. There just not enough high end talent. They’ve had two top 3 picks. It’s very difficult to rebuild a team properly with just that. Every team has had many high picks. Look at NJ, two 1st overalls, a 4th overall, a 5th. Tampa- 1/2 overalls, 6, 10. Oilers 4 first overalls, 3, 7, 4, 10, 8. Hawks currently have a 1, 2, 7. That’s it for the top 10. Unless they’re gonna fill the roster with UFAs and trades. I think they’ll stay the course. I don’t expect much. Just replace what they’re losing to free agency!!! Curtis Douglas is a 6'8" 245 pound centre, a former 4th round pick by Dallas in 2018. I remember not that long ago you were quite high on the Spitfire centre. Douglas is now 24 years old and has a few years AHL experience under his belt. He is a RFA this summer and perhaps might be available soon. His AHL scoring numbers aren't great, (21 points in 57 games) but it looks like he has developed some nastiness (148 PMs). He was a point a game guy in junior and came with a reputation of being defensively responsible. I have not seen Douglas play at all in recent years. Still, my feeling is that this is the type of guy Davidson should look to add this summer for the fourth line. If nothing else, he'd provide that physical, defensively responsible presence on the fourth line. Certainly he is worth a gamble as one of the team's 50 pro contracts.
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Post by mvr on Jun 30, 2024 15:04:13 GMT -6
Another option might be Adam Klapka, 24, from Calgary's system. Big boy. Some nasty. About the same age. Also a centre/winger.
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Post by BigT on Jun 30, 2024 15:45:18 GMT -6
I’d love to see them take on a contract. Maybe Laine or something like this. If they’re going half assed. Then go full ass. Just tank for the next two years. Get the high end talent you need and go from there. No use pretending to be something you’re not. I’m all for the tank. I’ve stated many times that the Hawks need at least one more tank year. There just not enough high end talent. They’ve had two top 3 picks. It’s very difficult to rebuild a team properly with just that. Every team has had many high picks. Look at NJ, two 1st overalls, a 4th overall, a 5th. Tampa- 1/2 overalls, 6, 10. Oilers 4 first overalls, 3, 7, 4, 10, 8. Hawks currently have a 1, 2, 7. That’s it for the top 10. Unless they’re gonna fill the roster with UFAs and trades. I think they’ll stay the course. I don’t expect much. Just replace what they’re losing to free agency!!! Curtis Douglas is a 6'8" 245 pound centre, a former 4th round pick by Dallas in 2018. I remember not that long ago you were quite high on the Spitfire centre. Douglas is now 24 years old and has a few years AHL experience under his belt. He is a RFA this summer and perhaps might be available soon. His AHL scoring numbers aren't great, (21 points in 57 games) but it looks like he has developed some nastiness (148 PMs). He was a point a game guy in junior and came with a reputation of being defensively responsible. I have not seen Douglas play at all in recent years. Still, my feeling is that this is the type of guy Davidson should look to add this summer for the fourth line. If nothing else, he'd provide that physical, defensively responsible presence on the fourth line. Certainly he is worth a gamble as one of the team's 50 pro contracts. Although years ago. That’s who’s in my avatar with my son. Dougie had some concussions. He almost quit. But he’s giving her another shot. Really great kid. He billeted the next street over from me. He’d always come out and play with the kids. Always take time to talk to you. If he could get her together. He could be a 3/4 liner. But not sure where he’s at with his problems!!!
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 30, 2024 15:46:32 GMT -6
Phillips and crevier extended offers. No one else. Lafferty to hit free agency
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 16:00:05 GMT -6
Tying-up 14.25M worth of cap-space in Hall,AA and Mikheyev oughta facilitate the 'tank' for sure but shouldn't any FO that drafted EIGHT years-worth of 1st,2nd and 3rd round picks the last three drafts have their rebuild well under way? Vlasik looks like a top-pair D-man,KK looks like he belonged in the league @19 and Bedard looks to be that generational talent we all hoped for.......how do even more 'tank' season affect him? Bedards got a single season under his blades. He’ll be fine. Unfortunately the last GMs picks are doing most of the heavy lifting right now. Vlasic, Kurashev, Phillips, Kaiser, EDM, Allan, Reichel, Slaggert etc. Yesterday’s draft seen at least 5-6 huge dmen get drafted in the early 2nd round. All had great numbers. Just a little lanky. I’d rather have kept all 3 second rounders and loaded up on 6’4” d prospects. I also believe everyone of them was a righty. He could have loaded up 3 more righties on D, and picked the actual best player available at 2. Then the best at 18. I do not mind the Boisvert pick. Just not at 18. I’d have to think Eisermann will come back and haunt a lot of teams. Anyways. Just cuz they can skate fast doesn’t mean they hockey well. I think this group is mired in the allusion of skating is the be all end all. Patty Maroon has won 3 Cups and may be the worst skater we’ve ever seen. He does his job well. That’s all you can ask. Skating helps, but we all know it doesn’t have to be just that. I’m not sold on a team of smaller speedier guys lasting 4 rounds. But that’s just me!!! I also wanted forwards with the first rounders and then d in the second, but here we are. I continue to agree that the speed thing has gotten out of hand. pretty sure we said the same thing after last year's draft. their belief that they can add size might be a bit misguided, imo. at some point, we are likely going to have to pay out the ass to get someone. at what point does Brady want out of Ottawa? he is EXACTLY what we need on this team.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2024 16:02:14 GMT -6
Phillips and crevier extended offers. No one else. Lafferty to hit free agency honestly not surprised Laff decided to look around, I'm sure he knows he will likely just be traded if he signs here again.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 30, 2024 16:08:13 GMT -6
Phillips and crevier extended offers. No one else. Lafferty to hit free agency honestly not surprised Laff decided to look around, I'm sure he knows he will likely just be traded if he signs here again. agreed
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Post by mvr on Jun 30, 2024 16:29:22 GMT -6
My guess. Lafferty signs about one hour after free agency starts.
Davidson has undoubtedly presented the player with a very good offer. Lafferty and his agent now are doing their due diligence. They will wait to see if a contender matches or something better materializes.
Both sides recognize that no team will come close. Before the musical chair game becomes a problem, the agent will circle back and get the contract signed.
Likely there is an agreement in place with a firm deadline tomorrow shortly after the UFA window opens.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 30, 2024 18:08:38 GMT -6
Phillips qualified Hawks did not qualify Raddysh, Entwistle and Johnson no surprises there. I'm interested in Anderson and also whether Lafferty is signed in the next 30 minutes... i thought anderson and stauber might be kept. i hope wistle and RJ land on their feet somewhere.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 30, 2024 18:10:00 GMT -6
My guess. Lafferty signs about one hour after free agency starts. Davidson has undoubtedly presented the player with a very good offer. Lafferty and his agent now are doing their due diligence. They will wait to see if a contender matches or something better materializes. Both sides recognize that no team will come close. Before the musical chair game becomes a problem, the agent will circle back and get the contract signed. Likely there is an agreement in place with a firm deadline tomorrow shortly after the UFA window opens. He's probably looking for more term, I'm sure KD made a nice offer but probably 2yrs max.
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